Am I the only one wondering why Kaien does a normal shikai, instead of a hollow release?
Even if Kaien is the baddie and not the hollow, he still died, was reborn in hueco mondo, and became an evil member of the arrancar. You'd think they'd at least have a recruitment poilcy of being vaguely hollowish..
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Zaera Polo has a regular release too. Espada are probably completly different then regular Arrancar.
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Maybe the sealed forms just vary more for Espada, rather than them just being normal katana? I dunno.
And I'm still not completely sold on this arrancar being Kaien, but either way it'll be fun.
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Zaer-Pollo is pretty cool, I can't wait to see what his sword does.
The whole Kaien arrancar deal is getting pretty interesting as well, I'm a tad baffled on whether Arroniro is Kaien or something else, him using Nejibana seems to confirm that he is Kaien, but a lot of other things point to him NOT being Kaien.
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Zaera Polo has a regular release too. Espada are probably completly different then regular Arrancar.
I don't remember him having a shikai. Isn't that weird bulbous-guard sword the normal form of his zanpakuto? My guess is that all Arrancar, including Espada, only have the resurreccion ability for their zanpakuto; even the three Privaron Espada didn't exhibit shikai or bankai.
Arroniro is probably the exception to this rule, as he was a combined Hollow/Shinigami before becoming an Arrancar. Also, because he was only a lieutenant, it's unlikely that he ever achieved bankai as a Shinigami - as an Arrancar he probably just has his shikai and his resurreccion.
And by the way, I think that Arroniro and Kaien are one and the same - he was a very weird Shinigami/Hollow hybrid with both conciousnesses active - remember the double speech bubble at the end of chapter 263? He's definitely speaking as Kaien at the moment, but later on we'll probably see less Kaien and more Arroniro. That's my guess.
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I don't remember him having a shikai. Isn't that weird bulbous-guard sword the normal form of his zanpakuto?
My thoughts exactly. Going by Luppi, the Espada have normal Arrancar releases.
But what I don't get is that Kaien/Arroniro is an Arrancar, when he doesn't fill the definition of one in any way. He seems as normal as Gin and Tousen, but we don't see them in the Espada.Lazzie, I too think your Merged minds theory is plausible, yet I still wonder what his agenda is. I expect some seriously good writing on Kubos part to untie this tangle.
BTW, does anyone else think it's funny, that when Kishi lets the long time coming Tobi/Obito revelation finally come out, Kubo will have trumphed it ages ago?
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Spoilers for next chapter
! Title page is zaeruaporo
Rukia vs Kaien
Rukia is being beaten.
Rukia “I didn’t want to do this but this is an espada “(?)
A look of fear comes over Rukia as a person arrives to interrupt the fight.
Renji vs zaeruaporo
Renji is being beaten, he is strapped down with a device and his zanpakutou is useless.
A familiar person arrives .
The strawberry heads towards Chad (not sure of all of it??)
The scenery fades into a large room.
4sama “I thought it was time we had a talk Kurosaki Ichigo”.
End.
Hmmm something like : Sorry It was done quickly and pictures will be later.Aizen->Ichigo
Gin->Rukia
Tousen->Renji.Interesting…interesting indeed.
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Isn't Ichigo japanese for srawberry so Ichigo is going to chad
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Uh….huh. No clue what's going on there.
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Basically Renji vs ZA and Rukia vs Kaien continues, Ichigo arrives at Chad's room, Aizen finds Ichi, Tousen finds Renji, Gin->Rukia.
Something like that.
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Meh, I'll be a little disappointed if this turns out to be true. It's too soon for the three ex-captains to make their appearances.
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Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. Then again, there isn't much else to do except to see Renji and Rukia get their asses kicked for a few more chapters.
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getting teleported out there is alot better then them getting rescued imo. It's basically the ex-captains saying "Sorry, you guys suck, get the hell out." Or at least that's what I hope happens. Problem is Ishida is still there.
a 2nd spoiler has Rukia and Renji getting their asses kicked, with Apollo having a release "Skull King" which creates a deadly, poison cloud. I'm leaning toward the second spoiler being real.
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Here's a translation of the second spoiler from MangaHelpers:
! Kaien: "It's over… Kuchiki."
Kaien spins Nejibana in one hand (with a buzz)
Kaien: "May you perish in the engulfing whirl! Mizubana Suiboku!" [Disclaimer: this sentence makes my head hurt, but I'm assuming it's just a technique call of some sort, so meh [IMG]http://mangahelpers.com/forum/Smileys/default/p.gif]
Rukia is engulfed by a huge quantity of water.
Rukia: (Impossible… but that is unmistakably Kaien-dono's Nejibana...! What the...)
The water settles. As Rukia is choking[?] Kaien thrusts the tip of Nejibana at her.
Kaien: "I win."
Kaien's mouth twists into a charming smile [Translator note: WWWJDIC states that this kanji for "ayashii" can't be used to mean "charming", but it seems to make more sense in context than "suspicious". Of course, "suspicious" could also make sense]
! Scene change to Renji.
Renji: "Uooooooh!"
Renji relentlessly attacks, but Apollo blocks and parries everything with his sword.
Apollo: "Heh, you truly are a single-minded fool."
Renji: "Dammit… when you said your fighting ability wasn't too high, you must have been judging by some screwed-up standards..."
Apollo grins broadly.
Renji: "What's so funny?"
Apollo: "Like I said, you're a single-minded fool. It seems that all that the fighting ability you possess is good for is showing off flashy attacks."
Apollo throws his sword, embedding it in the wall.
Apollo: "This is going to be painful... are you prepared?"
Renji readies himself for an attack.
Apollo: Scatter! Zeramoruuze! [The kanji mean "skull king". Perhaps someone can figure out the Spanish.]
The sword explodes, and a cloud of dust arises.
Renji: I can't see anything…
Renji: "Guaaaaaah!!" With Renji's scream from the middle of the dust cloud, the chapter ends.
I definitely like this one better than the first one, but we can only wait and see. Only another two days, right? -
It seems a little too indepth for an early spoiler, but yeah, I like that one a little better and I think it makes more sense.
I just hope Rukia and Renji would lose already..
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Anyway, it looks like the story's picking up.. but unfortunately Chad's been completely forgotten.. I wanted to see more Noitora.
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I really wish that Kaien would take control again… I think that right before he kills Rukia, he'll retake control and possibly pull another Kaien (Haha!), and commit suicide before Arroniro exerts dominance again.
Maybe it'll happen that way?
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Anyone cares for 118 RAW?
It's Ikkaku vs that arrancar people! With excellent animation!
An episode definitely worth watching.
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Saiyaman dropped the raw a few hours ago, and Dattebayo will probably have it subbed before midnight Eastern or so. Youtube's good for user-submitted video, but why resort to it when the quality's so much better elsewhere?
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Himatsu's spoilers says Arronoiro is NOT the real Kaien, and he reveals his real form in this chapter.
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So what's the real spoiler?
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Thanks Rauol for not only reminding me of that episode but for providing the link! Did any one else notice the strange talking animation on the arrancar person after he transformed?
Himatsu's spoilers says Arronoiro is NOT the real Kaien, and he reveals his real form in this chapter.
If this is real, I can't tell if I'm relieved or if this just adds on to the angst. I hate slow fights like this.
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@Cap'n:
So what's the real spoiler?
Second spoiler is real. Himatsu posted the second spoiler, and clarified that Kaien is not the real Kaien. I just wonder how he managed to copy Kaien's zanpakuto.
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Well, if he is indeed the hollow that ate Kaien, then maybe he absorbed his weapon somehow. If not, with Kubo it could be any number of things.
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But didn't the hollow get killed in Rukia's flashback. =_=
If it did get killed and come back, I want skreecher(sp) and grand fisher back, more so skreeecher.
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But didn't the hollow get killed in Rukia's flashback. =_=
If it did get killed and come back, I want skreecher(sp) and grand fisher back, more so skreeecher.
He mentions that when he was killed, his soul returned to Hueco Mundo due to some special properties of the hollow that possessed Kaien. Check the chapter.
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Why would anyone want Grand Fisher great, I was so glad when Isshin cut down that lameass.
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Just watched the new subbed episode and damn, Ikkaku's bankai is ridiculously badass. Also I enjoyed the pacing and the energy of the fight, Bleach's music has taken an upturn ever since the beginning of this arc and i'm really enjoying it.
Nevermind the double post, i hit post reply twice on this slow computer
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sigh oh well. I guess Rukia's fight did start first. And as for the anime, I don't think Ikkaku's bankai is that interesting. It looks really cool at first, but it doesn't do anything cool. It's just a really big sword, or swords I guess.
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Yeah so? That's part of why it's awesome.
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Probably best episode in the recent anime.
I'd call it my favourite, but I haven't seen all of the anime, sooo…
Kind of disappointed if it turns out Kaien isn't uh, Kaien. Without any explanation it'd be kind of pointless. It'd be cool if it simply turns out to be the Hollow that took his body way back, though.
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I agree that the episode itself was done well. Now that we have actual fights, the animators can start to do their stuff…finally.
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You know its probably obvious to the rest of you, but I just realized something thanks to the preview pics for the next Bleach:
Kenpatch & Yachiru = Lone Wolf & Cub (well not literally, but in a sense)
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@Impel:
! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/70/Zaera_zanpakuto.jpg/654px-Zaera_zanpakuto.jpg
Okay, not really a spoiler, but did anyone notice how Zaera-Polo-chan is totally flipping off Renji?
I think he has his middle finger and index finger out, so he technically isn't flipping off Renji.
But these new chapter pics are weird… my dual personalities theory seems to have been mostly correct, but those bizarre "skulls in a tube" thing was totally unexpected. Is he going to go back to speaking in a unison speech bubble?
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To me, it seems like his index is bent on the handle. And I'm totally confused as to how Arrnilo does/will act. I'll just wait for Kubo to explain it.
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I have to say Arroniro's real design totally dissapoints me. Skulls in a tube? Aren't arrancar supposed to look somewhat human?
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Is this whole skull tube thing from ch. 266? Because this doesn't sound like anything I've read.
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Okay, not really a spoiler, but did anyone notice how Zaera-Polo-chan is totally flipping off Renji?
Dude..
That's his ring finger…
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No, count. It's his middle.
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@Impel:
No, count. It's his middle.
If he is holding the sword with his left hand, then he should have one finger and his thumb above the middle finger and two fingers below the middle finger, so it's his ring finger.
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Argh, Ikkaku's bankai is very cool. That episode was really well done. Here's hoping for Rukia and Renji getting beaten quickly so we can move along to whatever's next.
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Renji wins his battle though…
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Renji wins his battle though…
MAS is probably referring to his current fight in the manga, which is yet unresolved.
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It probably is still Kaien but as I was suspecting it's both Kaien and the Hollow who infested him. Thus the reason for 2 faces in the tube and only one of them talking. Meaning the Hollow is in control. This would also mean that Arroniro isn't the traditional type of Arrancar. That's the only way it would make sense that he can use Kaien's Zanpakutou.
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Also, Kaien said that he's replaced the actual Espada to kill Aizen, so that must mean that either since becoming part Hollow he's become much stronger, or that Espada of number around 9 can be killed by lutienents. Good news for Renji.
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Well at this point I'd expect that Renji is at least captain level…
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Average captain, that is. Like, Soi Fong or someone.