Hands up, all who think Blackbeard could be the "main" villain of One Piece.
Originally I was leaning towards Smoker, Sengoku, or the Gorousei. But given Blackbeard's recent actions… you think that maybe Oda is considering him for the part?
And the main villain is… (probable spoilers)
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I have these three canditates:
Blackbeard,
Coby or
Dragon.I personally believe that it will be Blackbeard.
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Coby is another likely adversary, but to me he isn't evil enough to be a villain.
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I never thought that Smoker could be a main villain… I mean, he is a good guy in a rough way. But your theory about Black sounds right, I hope this guy will be the last villain that Luffy will fight in the end of the series.
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Davy Jones is the final villian before Raftel.
The MAIN villian is very obviously Blackbeard, yes. He's a corrupt D, his power is darkness/gravity, and he wants to be Pirate King for all the wrong reasons.
At the end of their fight, I hope Davy Jones appears and drags Blackbeard off to his locker.
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I originally thought, "Hey, World Government. They're the highest 'evil' power in the OP World." But now… Blackbeard plans to kill the main character, screw with the balance of the Three Powers, find One Piece, take over the world, and in general fuck everybody up. Plus, he has the "true power of the Devil," a special ability among special abilities.
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He is super powerfull, super evil and has Darkness powers…..........He's perfect
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for luffy it is whitebeard,that fight will decide the next pirate king
not everything has to be good vs evil
BB possibly will face luffy the moment the news about ace spread and BB's nakama don't deserve a fight with the strong SH in their final level
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I never envisioned smoker as the main villian, neither coby.
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for luffy it is whitebeard,that fight will decide the next pirate king
Whitebeard isn't Pirate King. Why would defeating him automatically make him Pirate King? That's illogical.
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Unless Oda springs a suprise villian on us, all signs seem to point to Blackstubble.
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I… I might be right... for once.
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@Fire Fist:
Whitebeard isn't Pirate King. Why would defeating him automatically make him Pirate King? That's illogical.
where did i say WB is the PK??? i say that this would be luffy's final battle,
at least the final and most desicive battle,now if luffy fights coby as the PK so be itbut again not everything has to be good vs evil in the end
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Why would Luffy fight WB? WB will fight BB because
1. He killed a crewmate.
2. BB beat up Ace.
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where did i say WB is the PK??? i say that this would be luffy's final battle
The FINAL battle is Laboon. Period. If Oda doesn't do this, I will be royally pissed.
at least the final and most desicive battle,now if luffy fights coby as the PK so be it
Now this, I may or may not agree with. I don't think Whitebeard is gonna last much longer. He's old and sick.
but again not everything has to be good vs evil in the end
No, but it does in manga. ALL fighting Manga are good vs. Evil, since the very first, Hokuto no Ken.
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Guys… think about how Oda has set things up from the beginning. The final enemy before they get One Piece has to be Shanks!! Luffy will beat their crew and give the hat back, right? Hmm... who knows though.
If you mean "evil villain" then I think there is a lot of room for bigger villains. Once we see the other Admirals, Shichibukai, and Emperors, you will see why the balance of power has remained intact, I think.
Blackbeard seems to get hurt by all the attacks, so even though he's got incredible destructive power, he is still vulnerable. Ace landed at least two attacks himself, which really hurt him.
But... at the same time... when Oda was asked who is favourite pirate was, he said it was Blackbeard. So he must have given Blackbeard that name for a very good reason.
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for luffy it is whitebeard,that fight will decide the next pirate king
not everything has to be good vs evil
BB possibly will face luffy the moment the news about ace spread and BB's nakama don't deserve a fight with the strong SH in their final level
i originally thought that it would be whitebeard, but now i am starting to suspect that whitebeard and blackbeard will fight, and blackbeard will kill whitebeard, thus making him the strongest man in the world, and setting up for a fight between him and luffy.
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Honestly, you're all wrong. Bluebeard is the final villian. He can move all the water in the world and can use his beard as a grappling device.
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@Fire Fist:
The FINAL battle is Laboon. Period. If Oda doesn't do this, I will be royally pissed.
laboon! i have forgotten of that whale,well that theory is awesome
Now this, I may or may not agree with. I don't think Whitebeard is gonna last much longer. He's old and sick.
i think oda didn't create him to die of sickness or from another character
WB is perfect,he was equal with the PK and if his strenght is the same it would be like luffy surpassed roger in strenght
also i can't see BB surpassng roger too,sorry but i can't
No, but it does in manga. ALL fighting Manga are good vs. Evil, since the very first, Hokuto no Ken.
one piece isn't like all manga and i am sure you are aware of that and it would be boring too
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BB will surpass WB. Shanks already told WB that if BB isn't stronger already, soon he will be. Also, you HAVE to admit, WB is on the last of his days. He's hooked up to all those machines, he has and oxygen thing in his nose, and a team of nurses monitoring him all the time.
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laboon! i have forgotten of that whale,well that theory is awesome
i think oda didn't create him to die of sickness or from another character
WB is perfect,he was equal with the PK and if his strenght is the same it would be like luffy surpassed roger in strenght
also i can't see BB surpassng roger too,sorry but i can't
one piece isn't like all manga and i am sure you are aware of that and it would be boring too
Actually, if BB did indeed defeat WB, then he'd have surpassed both WB and Roger, and likewise, when Luffy defeats BB, it will show that he has achieved a new level of strength.
As for BB not being able to surpass Roger. If he were not a D, i'd say, maybe there's some credit to this, but the D's are growing and it seems they will have a major impact on the story.
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laboon! i have forgotten of that whale,well that theory is awesome
Why, thank you.
i think oda didn't create him to die of sickness or from another character
WB is perfect,he was equal with the PK and if his strenght is the same it would be like luffy surpassed roger in strenght
also i can't see BB surpassng roger too,sorry but i can't
Whitebeard is from a previous generation. In MANY Shonen Manga (Including One Piece), people talk about that a newer, younger generation is taking dominance. Whitebeard may just be an example of that.
one piece isn't like all manga and i am sure you are aware of that and it would be boring too
It's different in the plot, concepts, and technology/physics. But every Shonen fighting manga follows a basic guideline, and one of those guidelines is Good vs. Evil.
DBZ did, Hokuto no Ken did, Yuyu Hakusho did, hell, even Yu-Gi-Oh! does…
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well you are damn right about shonen manga,i have read so much shonen and now i can't accept a char that is not special!!! the shonen have brain washed me!!
also i've been meaning to post this a long ago
oda got inspiration from BB by this badass guy(not batman):REST IN PEACE
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If you mean by "main villain" you mean the last person Luffy and crew will have to fight for One Piece, I believe that it will be Shanks. Yes Shanks. I thought that when I first read OP, "Luffy's going to hafta fight the man who inspired him to get what he wants" You know, stuff like that. surprised nobody else mentioned it yet…
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I don't think Luffy will ever fight Whitebeard or Shanks. Since entering the GL Luffy has taken on villains with DF (2 were logia) that did not use blades, as they were left for Zoro. Shanks and Whitebeards use blades. That why I started to think that the final fight would be against AoKiji or Smoker, but now Blackbeard seems to be the most likely seeing as he is a D, has ridiculously powerful logia DF (as well as being a monster without it), the evil and opposite side of the coin to luffy, aims to be PK like Luffy and just KOed/killed another D that happens to be Luffy's brother.
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I believe it is the Gorosei, BB, or Dragon.
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impel down who is that irritating bastard in your sig?? i would hit him too!
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Frankly, I don't think the series will ever have a "main" villain. It'll have major villains, sure. Crocodile, Enel, the Elder Stars, etc. The series will have a string of multi-arc villains whose presence dictates a saga, but I don't see any series-long villains in One Piece's future. Truthfully, I doubt we've even seen who Luffy and Co. will fight before, or in, Raftel.
That being said, I do believe Blackbeard will be the next saga villain. Partly before, as said, Oda named him after his favorite pirate, and partly because of his actions recently.
However, like Wolfpox said, BB is quite vulnerable, and nowhere near being an ultimate villain.
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What if it's a combination of Sengoku and Blackbeard?
In a way, they could be symbiotic.
Blackbeard wants to become a Shickabuchai as a stepping stone to being Pirate King.
Sengoku (as a symbol of the WG) could use Blackbeard's might to help slap the Yonkou around. If they strongly believe that One Piece is a Poneglyph/Ancient History oriented item, it might be valuable to even permit a man like Blackbeard to get it (compared to say, the Mugiwara); he'd probably be largely disinterested in the historic value, and could probably be "bought off" on it– would you rather have a big ugly Poneglyph, or the equal volume in gold?
As for Whitebeard: I theorize he's like Bane in the Batman comics... the tubes and pumps allow him to juice up for combat power.
I don't see a Luffy/Shanks fight. It's been made out all since Chapter 1 and Higuma that Shanks is not stupid or needlessly violent. And I doubt Luffy would ever willingly hit Shanks. I could actually see Shanks, late in the series, recognizing he has been surpassed and turning his crew into a division of the Mugiwara.
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well i can see shanks and zoro spar so that zoro can be prepared somehow for his later fight with mihawk or not…..
well either way (and though it is off-topic) i would equally touched with usopp meating yassop and luffy meating shanks
EDIT: bounty1berry,cool avatar!
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Blackbeard is going to get more and more power with the time like Luffy and the rest of the world is going to fall apart around them.
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impel down who is that irritating bastard in your sig?? i would hit him too!
Okay, my sig is not about hitting him, it's about the phrase, "I'd hit it" that has been abused by white nerdy guys. That's what my sig is about. And why on Earth did you randomly bring this up? There is an avatar/signature rating section, you know.
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I am agreeing with fire fist ace about one thing….. the final fight will be with Laboon...... ;)
because it's the best way to end the series...... period.
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Blackbeard might be the final villain and I doubt Whitebeard vs. Luffy would be good. I just can't imagine it. So I think Whitebeard is meant to be killed or something. I can imagine that.
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If you mean by "main villain" you mean the last person Luffy and crew will have to fight for One Piece, I believe that it will be Shanks. Yes Shanks. I thought that when I first read OP, "Luffy's going to hafta fight the man who inspired him to get what he wants" You know, stuff like that. surprised nobody else mentioned it yet…
Well if you had read my post you would find that I did mention it.
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@Fire Fist:
The FINAL battle is Laboon. Period. If Oda doesn't do this, I will be royally pissed.
Agreed. Maybe not the LAST battle but it needs to be in there somewhere…
But onto the question at hand. I highly doubt BB is the final enemy. Hes just too....weak. I know I know, he just kicked Ace's ass but so what? He just beat WB's subordinate. I said it once in another thread, we have no details on WB other than the fact he is considered the strongest man in the world and rivaled the pirate king. If BB is having problems with his subordinate, how is he going to stand against WB who seems to be among a group of elites who is just as strong in the four powers of the world? Besides if you told me the most powerful enemy's ability was to suck things...Id say ur crazy.
I personally think its gonna come to dragon or someone on top of the WG we havent met yet. Maybe a dictator or something who destroyed that ancient kingdom. You know that has to come into play sometime.
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WB will die in the war that will start. He alone will be tryng to take down three Shichibukais(BB one of them), and he will be winning, but then his heart will fail him, and he'll die. This will motivate his crew and they'll win the battle against the WG.
But BB will survive and escape the whole thing, he could care less about the WG anyway, and set out for Raftel. Luffy will follow after him, since he still wants to take revenge for Ace. The whole world will be pretty much in chaos since many important figures died, and no one will know what'll happen next.
Things wil happen on the way to Raftel, but Luffy will finally catch BB on an island a few miles away from Raftel. The last battle will start.
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impel down who is that irritating bastard in your sig?? i would hit him too!
That's Matthew Lesko… he sells books on infomercials that list programs & grants given out by the U.S. Government... say you want to start a business... his book will tell you of a program or grant given by the govt that will give you like $15,000 to start up yer own business... there's also govt grants for college tuition, etc.
Personaly, I think he looks like The Riddler on meth...
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Final Battle will most likely be Blackbeard vs Luffy.
The Final Arc will probably feature a race for One Piece on Raftel between the StrawHats, the Blackbeard Pirates, the Buggy Pirates, the Red-Hair Pirates, and the World Government w/Mihawk, Smoker, Tashigi, Hina, Aokiji, and Garp all present. Dragon will show up somewhere as well with his revoluationaries and will probably engage the military ships off of Raftel, thereby distracting them a bit from dealing with the Pirates.
Shanks will probably come face to face with Blackbeard again and lose. Usopp and Yassop will team-up to take down Van Auger. Sanji will take on Lafitte. And Zoro will battle Mihawk.
Whitebeard will most likely be dead by this time, probably from a battle with Blackbeard who will be a Shichibukai by then.
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For all I know is the main villian is a marine, revolutionary or another yet intorduced, or maybe another we-didnt-think-of-him pirate.
Blackbeard is the person introduced to end Whitebeards era, and Ace eternal foe/enemy. So he was introduced to keep Luffys powerfull allies (in this case, Ace) busy.
I think a similiar situation will occur for Shanks and his crew as well, as well as Garp (speculation on a foe: Shichibukai? Marine? Yonkou?).
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I am sure that Blackbeard wants the position of Pirate King from the WG.
Do you know any navigator in his crew?
He doesn´t have one, his objective is to kill Whitebeard and receive the title of Pirate King from WG after this. A false pirate king that is recognized only because WG wants to finish the pirates problem.
Obviously a lot of pirates like Luffy aren´t going to accept this situation and they will go to Raftel where Blackbeard will be an huge stone in the way.
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At Raftel, Luffy will most definately fight BB for the Pirate King title. By then I think WB will be dead. Shanks will be there, probably in the battle with the Yonkou, Luffy and Blackbeard. But I can see BB and Luffy being the last two standing. Mihawk and Zoro will fight there, and Dragon will meet Luffy before the final fight, but I can't think of what will go down between the two.
So basically, BB will be the main villian. I can see Luffy being held back by Smoker, Dragon or Coby… and once defeating either of them, will rush forward and try to catch BB (who is closer to OP than ever). Then it'll be the main hero vs the main villian.
Of course, Oda will complicate things.
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I think that Oda actually did create Whitebeard to die from either sickness or from another character. Think about it.
We got Gold Roger, the Pirate King, the Man Who Conquered The Grandline and Created One Piece. He's the undisputed Pirate King, and he fullfill his mission, reaches Raftel and all.
Then, he is executed, the Great Era of Piracy begins. Whitebeard, the only man who every tided in a fight with Gold Roger grows in power. The people of the One Piece-world begin to believe that Whitebeard will be the next Pirate King, and assume him to take up the Throne of Gold Roger. For 22 years he roams the Sea, but never reaches he Raftel and claims One Piece. During this time, the Shichi Bukai, the Yonkou and the Marine establish their strongholds and the Three Great Powers are founded. This is all Whitebeard's Era, though never once does he claims the Throne of the Pirate King.
By simply killing off Whitebeard now by some other character Oda does something that do not only create chaos within the Three Powers, he makes it possible now for everyone to become the next Pirate King, since there's no clear pretender.
Now the race can begin seriously, since the old system is beginning to fall apart, and a new era can begin. Now Blackbeard, Luffy, Shanks, Buggy, Don Krieg, do Flamingo do not longer have Whitebeard blocking the road.
My theory is therefore the following:
1. Whitebeard will lose against Shanks, who proclaims that Whitebeard no longer was fit to become Pirate King.
2. The battle between Shanks and Whitebeard will end because of storm or something likewise, and they'll have to retreat for a while.
2 a) Whitebeard dies in agony from the wounds from "The old Bastard".
2 b) Blackbeard finds Whitebeard and kills Whitebeard
2 c) Luffy encounters Whitebeard. When Whitebeard realises that there's something in Luffy that reminds him of Roger, and that Luffy too values the Nakama Ideal that Whitebeard holds so dear, Whitebeard asks Luffy to kill him, in order to make it possible for Luffy to become Pirate King.
Something like:
"My era's over, kid, if I would have become Pirate King I would have had to claim the throne long ago. I'm old, sick and weak. The one who holds the key for the next era, is you. Bring back honour to the Pirate Ideal, you, true successor of Gol D. Roger. Please. Kill me."And then Whitebeard dies, and the Whitebeard crew holds a viking funeral for him or something, and Whitenbeard's last word will be sort of like "Hehe… It will be nice to meet the old bastard again...!"
And then the Whitebeard pirates discover that whatever enemy of Luffy's by the time is on their way and the entire Whitebeard Armada, knowing that without Whitebeard they're going to die proclaims:
"Our Captain died to grant that kid passage! Who cares if we die? At least we dies... ...for a nakama!"
And then the strawhat escapes and the Whitebeard crew fights to their bitter end in order to make sure that the Strawhats escape.Well... ehm... fanboy dream...
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I am sure that Blackbeard wants the position of Pirate King from the WG.
Do you know any navigator in his crew?
He doesn´t have one, his objective is to kill Whitebeard and receive the title of Pirate King from WG after this. A false pirate king that is recognized only because WG wants to finish the pirates problem.
Obviously a lot of pirates like Luffy aren´t going to accept this situation and they will go to Raftel where Blackbeard will be an huge stone in the way.
The WG can't make anyone the Pirate King, their the ones who want to get rid of pirates, remember? Pirate King is the one who finds One Piece, no power in this world can give out the title.
And BB isn't a character that would want a false title. He might be evil and all, but remember his talk about dreams. He himself is pursuing the dream of the Pirate king, and he wants to earn it.
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Although his ways of earning are sick and twisted.
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What 'bout Shanks and Luffy?
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What about them?
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@AD-HD:
I have these three canditates:
Blackbeard,
Coby or
Dragon.I personally believe that it will be Blackbeard.
That's what I think too.
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I personally don't see Blackbeard as a total villain hes more of the absolute personification of an anti-hero (kinda like Kurei).
Sure he wants to get Luffy's bounty, but so do lots of people because Luffy is also a pirate, and I don't think BB ever actually said what he wanted to do past capturing Luffy. and if he does want to change the world and we all can see that the world is corrupt at the upper levels then why not?