American Politics: A Brand New Day

Envy

@pariston_hill said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

Iowa Republicans propose same-sex marriage ban: ‘A union between one male and one female’

I'm just left asking the question: Why can't they just leave us alone?

I can't believe (well, I can because the right is completely insane, but you know what I mean) that they're trying to resurrect this anti-same sex marriage nonsense. There was NEVER any argument here. Same-sex marriage harms no one. Literally no one at all. Their religious arguments (which are very flawed in of themselves - the Bible had very messed up definitions of marriage) don't count for anything because separation of church and state.

Of course, we live in an era now where our Supreme Court spits at the separation of church and state because they're a bunch of Christian Nationalists that ignore the Establishment clause and what it meant. Same-sex marriage is probably next on the chopping block. I hate these Christian Nationalists. Just let us be. JFC.

JulieYBM

Same-gender marriage was only legalized in 2015. Even then, growing up in the 1990-2015 moves toward progress have always been very slow, both culturally, politically and socially. It's very surreal to see such cartoonishly evil shit happening again but it's important to keep in mind that the queer community's marriage victories have only been recent. Hell, queer disabled people still don't have marriage equality because they'll lose their disability benefits if they get married.

Time Control Magician

https://www.rawstory.com/bolsonaro-cpac/

Aren’t you supposed to be back in Brazil facing charges?

pariston_hill

@Time-Control-Magician No charges pressed yet so he doesn't run to a non extradition country.

JulieYBM

So, I finally watched the Michael Knowles clip and golly, it sure is fun to see folks arguing for the eradication of people like me! If they want someone to be eradicated for my estrogen it sure isn't going to be me. :D

Envy

@JulieYBM said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

So, I finally watched the Michael Knowles clip and golly, it sure is fun to see folks arguing for the eradication of people like me! If they want someone to be eradicated for my estrogen it sure isn't going to be me. :D

God, that is some piss poor logic from him, too.

He claims that trans people are "men turning into women" or vice versa, which is a poor way of putting it, but okay.

He claims if it can't be done then it should not be tolerated at all. Why? No explanation given. And a party that claims to be "limited government" better have a darn good reason to use the government to tread on people. But of course, he doesn't. And then he claims that trans people can not transition, which is just like... Citation needed, dude.

He then claims that peoples' rights are being taken away for trans people to exist. WHAT RIGHTS? Once again, citation needed. None given.

And the crowd roared in approval of his piss poor logic and unsubstantiated claims.

What a clown. And yet this is mainstream GOP now. This is troubling.

JulieYBM

@Envy said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

@JulieYBM said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

So, I finally watched the Michael Knowles clip and golly, it sure is fun to see folks arguing for the eradication of people like me! If they want someone to be eradicated for my estrogen it sure isn't going to be me. :D

God, that is some piss poor logic from him, too.

He claims that trans people are "men turning into women" or vice versa, which is a poor way of putting it, but okay.

He claims if it can't be done then it should not be tolerated at all. Why? No explanation given. And a party that claims to be "limited government" better have a darn good reason to use the government to tread on people. But of course, he doesn't. And then he claims that trans people can not transition, which is just like... Citation needed, dude.

He then claims that peoples' rights are being taken away for trans people to exist. WHAT RIGHTS? Once again, citation needed. None given.

And the crowd roared in approval of his piss poor logic and unsubstantiated claims.

What a clown. And yet this is mainstream GOP now. This is troubling.

It's very bad, for sure. There's no arguement, just fearmongering. He completely ignores common sense (just leave people alone) and the medical proof that transitioning saves lifes.

The cruelty is the point. It's awful, not just for me but to think about all of the trans kids I see out in the world and at events. One of the few things keeping me alive is seeing their joy, I cannot stand to see it taken from them. It's unacceptable.

Bugs

Well well, I had my doubts but... this first step is promising.

JulieYBM

Hopefully more states follow suit.

pariston_hill

The Tennessee House Just Passed a Bill Completely Gutting Marriage Equality
The bill could allow county clerks to deny marriage licenses to same-sex, interfaith, or interracial couples in Tennessee.
https://newrepublic.com/feeds/168326/ticker

JulieYBM

@pariston_hill said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

The Tennessee House Just Passed a Bill Completely Gutting Marriage Equality
The bill could allow county clerks to deny marriage licenses to same-sex, interfaith, or interracial couples in Tennessee.
https://newrepublic.com/feeds/168326/ticker

This is why it's important to never forget about intersectionality.

Satsuki

Not just same-sex, but interfaith and interracial, huh?

Fuck you, Tennessee.

pariston_hill

Oh turtle McConnell is in the hospital?
My thoughts and prayers to the Grim Reaper for him to do his job.

pariston_hill

@Satsuki sadly this is not a case for a fuck this state with a particular bizarre state law.
This is the ground work for when the Christo-fascists get the White House again. They are opening precedent, Tennessee's law s gonna be challenged all the way to the SCOTUS and you know those fuckers are always up to take some rights.

Time Control Magician

@pariston_hill said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

or interracial couples in Tennessee.

Definitely want to be a fly on the wall to see the bumblefuck that tries to insist this law isn’t racist (or homophobic & religiously intolerant). And this coming after Republicans in congress refused to (unsurprisingly) condemn white supremacy

pariston_hill

@Time-Control-Magician said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

that tries to insist this law isn’t racist (or homophobic & religiously intolerant).

"On the contrary my good sir, this bill protects the right of freedom of religion by allowing people to object sinful acts perpetrated by this progressive deviant types." - Some douche with a with marble statue avatar of social media/forums.

Time Control Magician

West Virginia wants to do outdo Tennessee in fucked up bullshit

https://www.rawstory.com/west-virginia-republicans-vote-to-keep-child-marriage-legal/

pariston_hill

Not out do, basically all the west midwestern is doing it.

Envy

@pariston_hill said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

The Tennessee House Just Passed a Bill Completely Gutting Marriage Equality
The bill could allow county clerks to deny marriage licenses to same-sex, interfaith, or interracial couples in Tennessee.
https://newrepublic.com/feeds/168326/ticker

Ugh. Listen, marriage is a legal contract, and if you are too offended to do your job, then leave your job.

I'm so sick of Christian Nationalist's massive feelings of entitlement. It's even worse because the religious right manufactures "religious beliefs" that are politically convenient for them (but have nothing to do with the Bible) so they can whip their base into a frenzy over something new. This is what they've done with abortion for decades, and what they're doing with vaccines.

I believe Andrew Seidel said in one of his books that a country that gives exemptions in the law for religious beliefs, ultimately leads to a lawless society, and that is so true.

@Time-Control-Magician said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

West Virginia wants to do outdo Tennessee in fucked up bullshit

https://www.rawstory.com/west-virginia-republicans-vote-to-keep-child-marriage-legal/

Between this and Arkansas rolling back on child labor regulations, it really shows you who the TRUE "groomers" are in our culture.

Satsuki

I look at the stuff Christian Nationalists do and think, " . . . are you sure Jesus would be okay with that?"

Time Control Magician

@Satsuki said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

I look at the stuff Christian Nationalists do and think, " . . . are you sure Jesus would be okay with that?"

To them?

He might rabbit he might.

pariston_hill

@Satsuki said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

I look at the stuff Christian Nationalists do and think, " . . . are you sure Jesus would be okay with that?"

They don't want Yeshua, they want "Then they will know that I am the Lord, when I lay my vengeance upon them" Yahweh.

Johnny B. Decent

@Time-Control-Magician

Figures. Don't you dare be gay, but sure, you can marry your first cousin or forcibly marry some girl who just started puberty.

JulieYBM

There's a reason why anytime I leave my state I have to go back into the closet.

Satsuki

So Tennessee does that and people decide to punch the Governor back:
https://secondnexus.com/governor-lee-drag-photo-billboards?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2Sz3t8s5MeZ6Y37t02MhRaXvo8J4vVDEwu8RoA1zQ-qusM_Ywefsax7X4#Echobox=1678548887

It's glorious schadenfreude.

Satsuki

It's Randy day:

Sano

Trump thinks he's getting arrested on Tuesday.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/03/18/donald-trump-claims-he-arrested-tuesday-manhattan-probe/11498285002/

Johnny B. Decent

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Johnny B. Decent

That would be great.

sgamer82

press@twitter.com now auto responds with

pariston_hill

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Man an election with no GOP nor Dem candidate. Finally a good person can have a chance to be president. /jk

pariston_hill

Unrelated to above;

sgamer82

https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2023/03/20/day-790/

Day 790: "A final warning."

1/ Trump claimed he will be arrested Tuesday and urged his supporters to "protest, take our nation back!" The claim comes while District Attorney Alvin Bragg considers criminal charges over Trump's handling of a hush money payment to Stormy Daniels during his 2016 presidential campaign. Trump, however, provided no clear basis for his expected arrest, and a Trump spokesperson said there had been no actual "notification" about an imminent arrest from Bragg's office. If charged, Trump would be the first former president to be indicted in U.S. history. (New York Times / NPR / Associated Press / CNN / Politico)

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/18/1164524389/trump-claims-arrest-stormy-daniels

2/ Three House Republican committee chairmen are demanding that Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg testify before Congress "about what plainly appears to be a politically motivated prosecutorial decision" in any potential indictment of Trump in connection with hush money payments made ahead of the 2016 election. The letter to Bragg comes before any decision on charging Trump with a crime has been made. House Republicans, meanwhile, have threatened to defund Bragg's office, vowing to "investigate if federal funds are being used to subvert our democracy by interfering in elections with politically motivated prosecutions." (Politico / The Hill / NBC News)

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/20/house-gop-targets-manhattan-da-as-possible-trump-indictment-looms-00087833

3/ Trump asked a Georgia court to scrap the criminal investigation into efforts to overturn the state's presidential election by him and his allies. The motion seeks to prohibit Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis from filing charges and to suppress the grand jury's final report, which recommended indictments for more than a dozen people. Trump's lawyers also requested that Willis be "disqualified from further investigation and/or prosecution of this matter." (Politico / NBC News / USA Today / New York Times / Wall Street Journal)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-moves-quash-georgia-special-grand-jury-report-rcna75746

4/ A federal judge ordered Trump's attorney to testify as part of the special counsel investigation into his handling of classified documents. The judge said in an order under seal that Justice Department prosecutors had met the threshold for the crime-fraud exception – a provision that allows prosecutors to get around attorney-client privilege when they have reason to believe that legal advice or legal services have been used in furthering a crime. Prosecutors overseeing the investigation can now compel Evan Corcoran to answer more questions before a grand jury. (CNN / New York Times)

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/17/politics/evan-corcoran-testimony-trump-lawyer/index.html

Dozens of Mar-a-Lago staff have been subpoenaed in the classified documents probe. "Many of the Mar-a-Lago staffers are being represented by counsel paid for by Trump entities, according to sources and federal elections records." (CNN)

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/16/politics/mar-a-lago-trump-subpoenas/index.html

5/ Wyoming became the first state to ban the use of pills for abortion. Republican Gov. Mark Gordon signed a bill making it a felony to prescribe, sell, or use "any drug for the purpose of procuring or performing an abortion." Violators could face up to six months in prison and a $9,000 fine. The legislation takes effect July 1. In addition to prohibiting abortion pills in the state, Gordon allowed a second anti-abortion bill to become law without his signature. The law bans abortion under most circumstances. (New York Times / Politico / CNN / ABC News)

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/18/wyoming-governor-abortion-pills-00087737

6/ Biden vetoed legislation that would bar investment managers from weighing environmental, social, and corporate governance factors when selecting investments. It was Biden's first veto of his presidency. Despite ESG factors – short-hand for environment, social, and governance – being a widely accepted investing principle since 2004, Republicans recently started attacking it as "woke capitalism" that, they argue, attempts to force climate change politics into Americans' financial planning. Investment managers, however, are not required to consider ESG factors – they're simply encouraged to consider them. "This bill would risk your retirement savings by making it illegal to consider risk factors MAGA House Republicans don't like," Biden tweeted. "Your plan manager should be able to protect your hard-earned savings — whether Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene likes it or not." The rule will now stand, as Congress is unlikely to get a two-thirds majority in each chamber to override Biden's veto. (New York Times / Associated Press / Politico / NPR / Bloomberg / NBC News)

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-veto-esg-labor-congress-woke-5971f2ee28c04b7dd8727606185cc53f

7/ Earth will likely to cross a critical threshold for global warming within the next decade and the world's current plans to avoid catastrophic warming are inadequate. The U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reports that unless there are "deep, rapid and sustained" cuts to greenhouse gas emissions, global average temperatures will rise 1.5 degrees Celsius above preindustrial levels sometime around "the first half of the 2030s." Beyond that threshold, scientists warn that the climate disaster will become so extreme that humans will not be able to adapt to the impact of catastrophic heat waves, flooding, drought, crop failures, famines, and infectious diseases. Earth has already warmed an average of 1.1 degrees Celsius since the industrial age. United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres called for an end to new fossil fuel exploration and for rich countries to quit coal, oil, and gas by 2040. A climate expert at Greenpeace International warned: "This report is definitely a final warning on 1.5C. If governments just stay on their current policies, the remaining carbon budget will be used up before the next IPCC report [due in 2030]." (New York Times / Washington Post / Bloomberg / Associated Press / The Guardian)

https://apnews.com/article/un-climate-change-report-ipcc-guterres-science-30d8451c0f3fb7b8a857e3ed4fd01172

pariston_hill

@sgamer82 said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

1/ Trump claimed he will be arrested Tuesday and urged his supporters to "protest, take our nation back!"

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Johnny B. Decent

So, what's the possibility of Trump committing suicide to avoid being arrested?

Time Control Magician

This man is in debt to numerous people and organizations if he hasn’t committed suicide over that he’s not doing it over this.

Johnny B. Decent

@Time-Control-Magician Aww, too bad.

sgamer82

@Johnny-B-Decent said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

So, what's the possibility of Trump committing suicide to avoid being arrested?

I'm no expert but I believe that, as a general rule of thumb, narcissists don't suicide, they melt down.

Day 791: "A necessary step."

1/ The Senate advanced a bill to repeal the congressional authorization used to attack Iraq in 1991 and 2003 – nearly 20 years to the day that the U.S. began its "shock and awe" campaign to topple Saddam Hussein's regime. The bipartisan legislation would repeal the 2002 authorization for the use of military force that Bush used for the 2003 invasion, as well as the 1991 authorization for the first Gulf War under H.W. Bush. Although Obama formally ended the war in 2011 and ordered the withdrawal of U.S. troops, Trump used the 2002 authorization to justify the airstrike that killed Iranian military leader Qassem Soleimani in Baghdad in 2020. It's unclear, however, if Kevin McCarthy will bring the legislation up for a vote in the House. "Repealing this [Authorization for Use of Military Force] is a necessary step towards putting the final remnants of the Iraq War squarely behind us," Chuck Schumer said. (CBS News / NPR)

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/21/1164744031/the-senate-eyes-a-formal-end-to-the-iraq-war-and-a-reassertion-of-congress-power

2/ The Pentagon will accelerate the training and delivery of Abrams tanks and Patriot missile defense systems for Ukraine. The U.S. will send 31 older M1-A1 models instead of the more modern version of the tank in order to get them to Ukraine this fall. A group of 65 Ukrainian soldiers, meanwhile, are scheduled to complete their training on the Patriot missile system in the coming days. Two Patriot systems are expected to be deployed to Ukraine in the coming of weeks. (CNN / Politico / Associated Press)

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-abrams-tanks-94294a9c1e1acc50098afa440bcb4d40

3/ The Minnesota House of Representatives advanced legislation that would shield patients who travel to the state for an abortion and the providers that treat them. If passed by the Senate and signed into law, the Reproductive Freedom Defense Act would prevent state courts or officials from complying with extraditions, arrests or subpoenas related to reproductive health care that a person receives in Minnesota. The bill now goes to the state Senate, where Democrats hold a thin majority. (Minnesota Public Radio / Associated Press / Washington Post)

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2023/03/20/minnesota-house-passes-bill-that-shields-abortion-providers-outofstate-patients

4/ Missouri's Republican attorney general filed an emergency regulation to limit access to gender-affirming treatments for minors. Andrew Bailey's new rules will require an 18-month waiting period, 15 hourlong therapy sessions, and treatment of any mental illnesses before Missouri doctors can provide that kind of care to transgender children, Bailey's office said. The Missouri Senate, meanwhile, advanced a pair of bills to prohibit gender-affirming health care for minors and restrict them from competing in sports. Both bills, which sunset in 2027, need a final vote from the Senate before heading to the House. (Associated Press / St. Louis Post-Dispatch / Fox 2 Now / KOMU)

https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/health/missouri-ag-announces-rule-to-restrict-gender-affirming-care-for-minors/article_8b24ff24-dba3-5b1a-b5a1-594c1359f970.html

5/ Biden designated new national monuments in Nevada and Texas. The designation of the Avi Kwa Ame monument in Nevada, and Castner Range monument in West Texas protects nearly 514,000 acres of land from new development. Biden also started the process to designate a new marine sanctuary in U.S. waters around the Pacific islands southwest of Hawaii, which will protect 777,000 square miles of islands, reefs, and marine life. After taking office, Biden committed to conserving 30% of America's lands and waters by 2030. (NPR / Washington Post / Associated Press / New York Times)

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/21/1164885621/biden-national-monuments-nevada-texas

6/ A Fox News producer filed a lawsuit claiming the network's lawyers coerced her into providing misleading testimony in Dominion Voting Systems' $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against the network. The lawsuit from Abby Grossberg came shortly after Fox News sought a temporary restraining order to prevent her from disclosing privileged information, like in-house legal discussions. In a federal civil suit, Grossberg alleges that Fox News lawyers "coerced, intimidated, and misinformed" her as they prepared her to testify in Dominion's $1.6 billion defamation suit. Grossberg also contends that Fox News lawyers advised her against hiring a personal attorney and implied that she was being "too candid" in her deposition prep sessions. Grossberg claims the attorneys took extra time "to make sure she got her story straight and in line with [Fox's] position" and that was urged to give generic answers, like "I do not recall." (Associated Press / NBC News / Washington Post)

https://apnews.com/article/fox-news-dominion-defamation-lawsuit-voting-sexism-9f0b4ec94a19fa68c1205864fef277c5

7/ U.S. cases of a rare and often deadly fungus tripled from 2019 to 2021. More than half of U.S. states have now reported the fungus, Candida auris, which is resistant to several antifungal medications. Candida auris has a mortality rate of up to 60%. The CDC and World Health Organization have labeled it a growing threat to public health. (Associated Press / NPR / Wall Street Journal)

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/21/1164912425/candida-auris-yeast-fungus-cdc-spread

Notable/ As of 2:08 pm Pacific time, Trump has not been indicted. (NBC News)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/live-blog/trump-news-grand-jury-indictment-live-updates-rcna75906

Time Control Magician

@Johnny-B-Decent said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

@Time-Control-Magician Aww, too bad.

Well he wind up in home sweet grave eventually. Hopefully once he does his perp walk.

Time Control Magician

No way to prevent this

https://www.rawstory.com/nashville-school-shooting/

Ubiq

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1850269373

Time Control Magician

@Ubiq said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1850269373

Almost wanted to be a bit more snarky and mention this wouldn’t have happened if there had been prayer involved.

But seriously this is fucked.

onemoment

I admit when I clicked on this topic I checked to see it sent me on the previous page. No, it's the latest post and this happened today. Dammit.

Time Control Magician

Also for some of our trans members on this board you guys might just want to stick to less shitty news outlets for this story.

We got some dickheads knowingly taking the wrong thing from this story just like the Colorado Springs shooting.

pariston_hill

Tik-Tok Ban law, more like ONLY WE can invade all your devices

Time Control Magician

https://www.rawstory.com/out-negotiated-by-mickey-mouse-trump-team-taunts-desantis-as-disney-gambit-blows-up-in-his-face/

DeSantis got fucked by Disney

onemoment

@Time-Control-Magician said in American Politics: A Brand New Day:

https://www.rawstory.com/out-negotiated-by-mickey-mouse-trump-team-taunts-desantis-as-disney-gambit-blows-up-in-his-face/

DeSantis got fucked by Disney

While both sides are technically evil, I'd settle for DeSantis suffering for now.

Satsuki

Yeah, normally wouldn't support the Disney business guys, but at least Disney has brought a lot of joy into people's lives. Unlike DeSantis.

Johnny B. Decent

You don't fuck with Mickey Mouse.

Cyborg009

@Time-Control-Magician well serve him right for trying to punish Disney for speaking out against his plans.