Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 8 - Onigashima)
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Sorry, but I disagree completely. Yamato has been Mr. Exposition Guy, he hasn't been treated as a main character at all.
He's important to tie together some plot threads of this arc. He has been added for that, so he feels important. But he's not being treated as important beyond that.He's the only character getting screentime that's comparative to the other Straw Hats.
He also gets connections with Ace and even an indirect connection with Luffy, that Oda didn't have to write in, but he did anyway.
Not even Mr. Popular Law is getting that. Nor Carrot, who, despite being the 9th most popular OP character, is still out of combat doing nothing.
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If Oda had plans for Yamato, there would be a few signs of it by now. There haven't. There's no bigger hidden story being developed here, Yamato is what he appears to be.
So, does this not count as a sign then?
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Yamato having a fire based DF does feel derivativ, but the problem isn't Ace/Sabo as much as Marco. You can count the number of Mythical Zoans in the series on one hand and Oda is again doing a "magical flames" thing?
It's too early to say too much as we havent seen what he intends to do with it but I'm feeling nervous about itI mean Marco's flames had to be there cuz Phoenix but they were already derivative of Ace's ability. Then we learned his flames don't even do what flames are suppose to do lol.
So its really wait and see with Yamato's flames.
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He's the only character getting screentime that's comparative to the other Straw Hats.
He also gets connections with Ace and even an indirect connection with Luffy, that Oda didn't have to write in, but he did anyway.
Not even Mr. Popular Law is getting that. Nor Carrot, who, despite being the 9th most popular OP character, is still out of combat doing nothing.
This is plain false. Otama and Komurasaki have both recieved more screen time than Yamato.
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Pretty images, but no point.
Sorry that Oda is not entertaining your theories, but it's an outright lie to say Oda is not giving hints.
- Lots of promo, in spots that very fews characters get.
- Connections with established popular characters like Ace.
- Direct relationship with arc's main antagonist.
- Mythical Zoan Powers that are still unexplained, meaning that more screentime will be dedicated to it.
There's still a loooot that haven't been explored yet about Yamato's character. And the tendency is for him to keep getting screentime, especially if Oda is going with a dog, monkey, pheasant theme with Yamato, Luffy and Marco.
This is plain false. Otama and Komurasaki have both recieved more screen time than Yamato.
Right now in the raid, they aren't. Yamato is the only character besides the Straw Hats who's constantly focused on, including on reaction shots involving the Straw Hats.
And with Tama already finishing her role as she said, she's unlikely to receive much more screentime from now on.
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Again, look at Jinbe during Marineford. He's literally just there to showcase cool Fishman moves, but has little depth shown. His character there is completely defined by Whitebeard and Ace.
Holy shit, some of you are impatient despite having knowledge of how Oda works. Oda already went all the way in giving him a lot of promo and setting multiple mysteries surrounding the character. And he's going to answer everything in due time.
He's not going to reveal everything soon. He has never done this. Robin, Franky, Brook took several dozens chapters to get actual depth. Literally 90% of Kinemon and Momo's characters during their first 100 chapters is a massive lie. And let's not even talk about Kanjuro.
Honestly, you should reread some arcs and notice how long Oda takes to actually give characters depth after introducing them.
Its really fascinating reading some of these takes. You would think some just started reading OP and binged a 1000 chapters in a short time.
Oda slow plays all his mysteries.
To hammer down the point, there are still unrevealed mysteries with Franky and Brook.
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Let's be real here, alot of the nakama hype surrounding Yamato comes from the fact that she's a female (I mean, biologically) and people just expect another female crewmate to even out the ratio. Virtually every significant female character that is introduced gets some level of Nakama-Buzz.
Not true for me at least, since I don’t really care for women like Hiyori, Kiku, or Cho to join the crew.
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Frankly, it seems Deicide is just angry Oda is not entertaining his theories.
Which means Yamato is totally a main character, since Deicide is always wrong.
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Hiyori hasn't been seen since 50+ chapters ago. So idk how she's getting comparative screen time in the current?
Tama has fulfilled her role with her taming the smile users, so it's expected for her presence to decrease going forward.
Yet, Yamato is still going strong. And that's alongside Strawhat fight chapter to boot.
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Mansherry felt like a more likely setup for a Nakama than Yamato at this point. That remains one of my favorite theories to turn out completely false.
This is hilarious after you just said Yamato is mainly being considered as next crewmate cuz he is a female.
When the Mansherry for nakama movement had to be a party of one lol.
@King:Frankly, it seems Deicide is just angry Oda is not entertaining his theories.
Which means Yamato is totally a main character, since Deicide is always wrong.
Been noticing this as well. Almost a bit JoyBoyish.
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Hiyori hasn't been seen since 50+ chapters ago. So idk how she's getting comparative screen time in the current?
Tama has fulfilled her role with her taming the smile users, so it's expected for her presence to decrease going forward.
Yet, Yamato is still going strong. And that's alongside Strawhat fight chapter to boot.
Okay but that just means during this particular segment of the story, Yamato is playing a somewhat central role. It's a fallacy to ascribe more importance to a character just cause they happen to get attention right now right here.
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If Oda had plans for Yamato, there would be a few signs of it by now. There haven't. There's no bigger hidden story being developed here, Yamato is what he appears to be.
And there are.
The SH's and Law too, all had somewhat harsh life experiences that could easily bend their morals and turn them bad, it was because there was always a someone in their past, that they remained well-behaved.
Yamato's case is quite specific, since he literally grew up in violence island, it makes no sense at all that he has widely and opposite morals than everyone else in Onigashima just out of the blue, and based on the bits we've seen from his past, he was already like that before Ace and Oden.
There's someone else in his past, we haven't reached that point yet.
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Okay but that just means during this particular segment of the story, Yamato is playing a somewhat central role. It's a fallacy to ascribe more importance to a character just cause they happen to get attention right now right here.
It's not just the attention btw. It's the content that comes with that attention that matters
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Lol what?
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Oh she just appears with the main crew at the commemorative vol 100, nothing important guys!!
Seriously, ignoring the real, big clue and continues to search miniscule meta clues is real funny at this point.
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Sorry, but I disagree completely. Yamato has been Mr. Exposition Guy, he hasn't been treated as a main character at all.
He's important to tie together some plot threads of this arc. He has been added for that, so he feels important. But he's not being treated as important beyond that.Yeah just like Don Sai right?
The way Yamato vs. Kaido is being handled right now should be a huge red flag for anyone expecting him to get depth.
At the very least it reminds me of Law vs. Doflamingo and last I checked Law has the most depth of any non-strawhat. He's basically been a co-protagonist since PH. Its arguably more than Vivi's long time in the story and character work.
To think Yamato is like Don Sai and won't be moving on with the story after Wano is strange.
You may argue that the focus right now is on wrapping the Tobi Roppo fights so Oda hasn't really gave it any real attention, but that off-panel DF reveal set up a pretty bad precedent.
This is why I think your analysis of the story and characters are just flat out wrong. The things you choose to focus on and put worth in tend to be trivial.
Oda passing up a DF transformation reveal isn't a big deal. Especially when he hasn't chosen to fully focus on Yamato's fight with Kaido.
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Lol what?
https://i.imgur.com/mPOnlmO.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E61WohYVcAAKbQb?format=jpg&name=large
Somebody PS Don Sai's face over Yamato's on these covers lol.
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Pretty images, but no point.
You should probably never bring up meta clues again.
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If Oda had plans for Yamato, there would be a few signs of it by now. There haven't. There's no bigger hidden story being developed here, Yamato is what he appears to be.
Wait, are you legit being dismissive of all of Yamato’s plot threads, or are you trolling? You said you weren't feeling well lately so I'm curious.
Yamato, who:
- Was introduced as a “family problem” Kaido didn’t want to deal with
- Was referred to as “a difficult task” by Black Maria when tasked to capture him
- Was wearing a hannya mask for some reason
- Was chained up with explosive cuffs and isn’t allowed to leave the island
- Has been waiting for Luffy IN PARTICULAR for years
- Kaido wants him and him alone to be shogun of Wano
- Was allowed to leave the island at age 8 to witness the burning of Oden
- Credits Oden’s boiling as THE MOMENT his inspiration/inherited will started
- Travelled to Kuri (by himself?) to try and stop Kaido from killing Momo
- Found Oden’s logbook in a river of all places
- Met Ace two years ago, which kickstarted his desire to finally sail
- Was somehow aware that Luffy would appear on this particular day and went missing, hence Kaido looking for him
- Ate a freaking Mythical Zoan devil fruit solely because he was hungry, which we have no idea what it is or what it can do
- Other things I’m obviously missing
Now, I hear the rebuttal: We already have the answers to that. Yamato is just a derivative of Oden/Ace/Kaido/whoever else I can make a flimsy connection to!
True, we have learned the following:
- Still don’t know why Kaido didn’t want to deal with Yamato. Remember, Yamato confronted Kaido, not vice versa.
- We have a good concept why Yamato is a difficult task for the Tobi Roppo. He strong. Sasaki shook.
- Still don’t know the purpose of the hannya mask. Yes, it concealed his face for the initial reveal, but Oda doesn’t just do things in a vacuum.
- Still no answer why Kaido CHAINED HIM UP WITH EXPLOSIVE CUFFS. Why can’t he leave the island?!
- He wants to sail with Luffy because Luffy said the same words as the Pirate King.
- Kaido STILL wants him to be shogun, despite his uprising again.
- Don’t know why he was on Wano at age 8, no handcuffs.
- Oden’s boiling is self explanatory, part of his introduction.
- Don’t know how he managed to get to Kuri alone at age 8 or what happened there.
- Don’t know how/when he found the logbook or who placed it there.
- Ace’s influence was obvious, inherited will and all that.
- How did he know Luffy was going to be there THIS night?
- Why did Kaido want the fruit Yamato ate? Why was it hard for Kaido, A FREAKING YONKO, to get this fruit? What did Kaido have planned for it?
That is a shit ton of mystery Oda has set up in this 30 chapters where you argue “nothing happened.” Some of them, like the hannya mask, could just be a visual thing that already served its purpose, but to think ALL these mysteries are solved? Nowhere close. For example, I personally don’t care what Oda does about why Kuma is a cyborg now or what Carrot will do with the dawn plot, but I’m not so obtuse as to say that Oda isn’t setting up those mysteries. I mean hell, Carrot, the only other legitimate contender for the next crewmate, didn’t get that personality until the end of WCI. And that's the only personality/mystery she has.
And hell, I thought Law was boring AF until the end of Dressrosa when we got his flashback. I could easily make the same argument that Dressora dragged on because of Law, he’s preventing other characters like Robin from shining, the narrative would be so much tighter without Law in the story. Then Corazon came and fuck, Law made Dressrosa great and it wouldn’t be the same without him. Trust in Oda to do the same for Yamato, because he’s clearly setting it up that way.
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Frankly, it seems Deicide is just angry Oda is not entertaining his theories.
Which means Yamato is totally a main character, since Deicide is always wrong.
It will be so fun when the Big Mom Pirates arrive…
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Yamato is undoubtedly going to become a permanent important ally of the Strawhats. But is he another Law or a full fledged member of the crew? There are arguments in favor of both views as of now.
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Also if Greg is right about Avalo Pizzaro being Kaido's former King, it would make for a perfect Straw Hat vs Black Beard match up
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@Zik:
You should probably never bring up meta clues again.
I never use meta clues in place of arguments. It's dumb. They are nice as support and curiosities, but worthless without hindsight.
Coming up with a cover as an argument for why Yamato is totally going to join is dumb.
You can point it to say you believe Oda put Yamato there because he's going to join, but that's not argument, it's baseless conjecture.
Yamato being in Volume 100 cover has its importance. But it has zero weight on any argument about joining until he actually joins.
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Yamato is undoubtedly going to become a permanent important ally of the Strawhats. But is he another Law or a full fledged member of the crew? There are arguments in favor of both views as of now.
I mean, this is considering not even Law got in the celebratory volume 99-100-101 spread.
Ace did because he's Luffy's direct brother and the most important character in his backstory (perhaps even more than Shanks since they were raised together). Logic dictates that Yamato would be of equivalent importance to justify his presence in that cover, at which point the "how?" becomes the key question.
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Yamato is undoubtedly going to become a permanent important ally of the Strawhats. But is he another Law or a full fledged member of the crew? There are arguments in favor of both views as of now.
Yamato constantly repeating he's leaving with Luffy and his personality point to him just not going to go off on his own. Not to mention the lack of experience but he seems to lack the ambition to want to venture off on his own to be a captain or w/e.
He doesn't have the attitude of a Law or Kidd in not wanting to serve under anyone else. That's what separates Law and Yamato to me in what Oda is doing. Yamato comes off more like Jimbe or Zoro or Ace; having the skills, power, and talent to be thought of as a captain/leader (even having been one) but is totally willing to serve under the right kind of captain.
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Yes, the Big Mom Pirates that never hurt Wano or harmed its people, that aren't responsible for the famine, the persecution, the Coup against the Kozuki clan, the incarceration of innocent people, the thousands of deaths along the 20 yeara of dictatorship.
They, the Charlottes, are the real big bad villains of the arc, ya'll just wait!
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Also if Greg is right about Avalo Pizzaro being Kaido's former King, it would make for a perfect Straw Hat vs Black Beard match up
Now THAT would be a very interesting thing to see.
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Also if Greg is right about Avalo Pizzaro being Kaido's former King, it would make for a perfect Straw Hat vs Black Beard match up
He never said that, he only said he liked that theory.
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I mean, this is considering not even Law got in the celebratory volume 99-100-101 spread.
Ace did because he's Luffy's direct brother and the most important character in his backstory (perhaps even more than Shanks since they were raised together). Logic dictates that Yamato would be of equivalent importance to justify his presence in that cover, at which point the "how?" becomes the key question.
Don't volume spreads just feature characters that happen to be important at the moment? Like, volume 100 happens to coincide with Yamato having his moment?
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I never use meta clues in place of arguments. It's dumb. They are nice as support and curiosities, but worthless without hindsight.
I didn't say it was used in place of an argument.
I said you shouldnt bring them up again cuz you think those covers mean nothing after saying there were no signs of Oda doing anything more with the character.
Coming up with a cover as an argument for why Yamato is totally going to join is dumb.
Nobody did that. That is not what is being done.
I don't know if this due to a poor memory but we're not even talking about Yamato joining the crew right now.
You just said if Oda had bigger plans for Yamato there would be signs by now. You then made the statement that there are no bigger hidden plans for the character.
King Cannon posts the Jump cover and the vol. 99 and 100 covers that obviously imply Yamato is an important character to the One Piece story. He's on there with Luffy, Big Mom, and the other strawhats.
You can point it to say you believe Oda put Yamato there because he's going to join, but that's not argument, it's baseless conjecture.
Yamato being in Volume 100 cover has its importance. But it has zero weight on any argument about joining until he actually joins.
Again, you have to be able to follow the topic being discussed.
We are not talking about Yamato joining.
Your posts are about Yamato being an arc only temporary character like Don Sai. You said Oda has no and for.him and has provided no signs. That's what's being argued against.
There pretty obvious false statements made by you and other posters have provided reasons and support as to why.
Don't know why you keep trying to make this about Yamato joining when you started this topic of Yamato being what he appears to be and what that appears to be to you is a character equivalent to Don Sai.
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Yamato is undoubtedly going to become a permanent important ally of the Strawhats. But is he another Law or a full fledged member of the crew? There are arguments in favor of both views as of now.
Well Law wants to be his own boss as captain, in contrast to Yamato who didn’t mind being ordered by Luffy to look over after Momo.
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Now THAT would be a very interesting thing to see.
Yeah it would make for a super interesting match up and give more stakes to the fight, make it much more personal
He never said that, he only said he liked that theory.
Well I still think it's a cool idea, and would make me hope for a Yamato vs Avalo Pizzaro match up
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Wait, are you legit being dismissive of all of Yamato’s plot threads, or are you trolling? You said you weren't feeling well lately so I'm curious.
Yamato, who:
- Was introduced as a “family problem” Kaido didn’t want to deal with
- Was referred to as “a difficult task” by Black Maria when tasked to capture him
- Was wearing a hannya mask for some reason
- Was chained up with explosive cuffs and isn’t allowed to leave the island
- Has been waiting for Luffy IN PARTICULAR for years
- Kaido wants him and him alone to be shogun of Wano
- Was allowed to leave the island at age 8 to witness the burning of Oden
- Credits Oden’s boiling as THE MOMENT his inspiration/inherited will started
- Travelled to Kuri (by himself?) to try and stop Kaido from killing Momo
- Found Oden’s logbook in a river of all places
- Met Ace two years ago, which kickstarted his desire to finally sail
- Was somehow aware that Luffy would appear on this particular day and went missing, hence Kaido looking for him
- Ate a freaking Mythical Zoan devil fruit solely because he was hungry, which we have no idea what it is or what it can do
- Other things I’m obviously missing
Now, I hear the rebuttal: We already have the answers to that. Yamato is just a derivative of Oden/Ace/Kaido/whoever else I can make a flimsy connection to!
True, we have learned the following:
- Still don’t know why Kaido didn’t want to deal with Yamato. Remember, Yamato confronted Kaido, not vice versa.
- We have a good concept why Yamato is a difficult task for the Tobi Roppo. He strong. Sasaki shook.
- Still don’t know the purpose of the hannya mask. Yes, it concealed his face for the initial reveal, but Oda doesn’t just do things in a vacuum.
- Still no answer why Kaido CHAINED HIM UP WITH EXPLOSIVE CUFFS. Why can’t he leave the island?!
- He wants to sail with Luffy because Luffy said the same words as the Pirate King.
- Kaido STILL wants him to be shogun, despite his uprising again.
- Don’t know why he was on Wano at age 8, no handcuffs.
- Oden’s boiling is self explanatory, part of his introduction.
- Don’t know how he managed to get to Kuri alone at age 8 or what happened there.
- Don’t know how/when he found the logbook or who placed it there.
- Ace’s influence was obvious, inherited will and all that.
- How did he know Luffy was going to be there THIS night?
- Why did Kaido want the fruit Yamato ate? Why was it hard for Kaido, A FREAKING YONKO, to get this fruit? What did Kaido have planned for it?
That is a shit ton of mystery Oda has set up in this 30 chapters where you argue “nothing happened.” Some of them, like the hannya mask, could just be a visual thing that already served its purpose, but to think ALL these mysteries are solved? Nowhere close. For example, I personally don’t care what Oda does about why Kuma is a cyborg now or what Carrot will do with the dawn plot, but I’m not so obtuse as to say that Oda isn’t setting up those mysteries. I mean hell, Carrot, the only other legitimate contender for the next crewmate, didn’t get that personality until the end of WCI. And that's the only personality/mystery she has.
And hell, I thought Law was boring AF until the end of Dressrosa when we got his flashback. I could easily make the same argument that Dressora dragged on because of Law, he’s preventing other characters like Robin from shining, the narrative would be so much tighter without Law in the story. Then Corazon came and fuck, Law made Dressrosa great and it wouldn’t be the same without him. Trust in Oda to do the same for Yamato, because he’s clearly setting it up that way.
It is rather weird to think that Yamato has actually known about Luffy longer than Zoro has, because of how Ace told Yamato about him four years earlier.
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Heck, Yamato is the only one in the area that knows Luffy's true dream, as far as we know.
Sabo, Shanks, and by extension Rayleigh probably know it as well… and those are kind of all major figures in Luffy's life?
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Avalo Pizzaro as shogun of Wano? That makes no sense. Why would it have been left out of the entire wano flashback? We know Sukiyaki was the shogun before Orochi, is Kaido supposed to have dethroned Orochi after Odens death and then reinstated him sometime later?
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Heck, Yamato is the only one in the area that knows Luffy's true dream, as far as we know.
Sabo, Shanks, and by extension Rayleigh probably know it as well… and those are kind of all major figures in Luffy's life?
The end part of Luffy’s dream, yeah, which may or may not involve having the rest of the world be free enough to dance or something like that.
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Avalo Pizzaro as shogun of Wano? That makes no sense. Why would it have been left out of the entire wano flashback? We know Sukiyaki was the shogun before Orochi, is Kaido supposed to have dethroned Orochi after Odens death and then reinstated him sometime later?
That’s not what I meant by King
I meant like the All Stars King
He even has the horns and is called the corrupt King
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Don't volume spreads just feature characters that happen to be important at the moment? Like, volume 100 happens to coincide with Yamato having his moment?
Not really. Yamato's moment with Ace happens in volume 99.
Plus, he already had a forefront shot in Volume 98, alongside Luffy, which coincided with his intro. There was no need for him to have a second volume appearance so early, but he did.
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Avalo Pizzaro as shogun of Wano? That makes no sense. Why would it have been left out of the entire wano flashback? We know Sukiyaki was the shogun before Orochi, is Kaido supposed to have dethroned Orochi after Odens death and then reinstated him sometime later?
You're like the only person who assumed Kaido was from Wano.
The general assumption is that he isn't.
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That’s not what I meant by King
I meant like the All Stars King
He even has the horns and is called the corrupt King
Wait whaaat!! Lmao, I didnt even think of it before, especially since Kaido does have the King card.
I feel like Greg meant his actual king, the person who ruled the country from whatever he's from, but I'm confused now.
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You're like the only perason who assumes Kaido was from Wano.
The general assumption is that he isn't.
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Wait whaaat!! Lmao, I didnt even think of it before, especially since Kaido does have the King card.
I feel like Greg meant his actual king, the person who ruled the country from whatever he's from, but I'm confused now.
Lol right, that’s what I thought, it’s a dope concept
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That’s not what I meant by King
I meant like the All Stars King
He even has the horns and is called the corrupt King
Well its established that Pizzaro used to be an actual king and his corruption got him dethroned and placed in ID. That's why he has the title corrupt king
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Wait, are you legit being dismissive of all of Yamato’s plot threads, or are you trolling? You said you weren't feeling well lately so I'm curious.
Yamato, who:
- Was introduced as a “family problem” Kaido didn’t want to deal with
- Was referred to as “a difficult task” by Black Maria when tasked to capture him
- Was wearing a hannya mask for some reason
- Was chained up with explosive cuffs and isn’t allowed to leave the island
- Has been waiting for Luffy IN PARTICULAR for years
- Kaido wants him and him alone to be shogun of Wano
- Was allowed to leave the island at age 8 to witness the burning of Oden
- Credits Oden’s boiling as THE MOMENT his inspiration/inherited will started
- Travelled to Kuri (by himself?) to try and stop Kaido from killing Momo
- Found Oden’s logbook in a river of all places
- Met Ace two years ago, which kickstarted his desire to finally sail
- Was somehow aware that Luffy would appear on this particular day and went missing, hence Kaido looking for him
- Ate a freaking Mythical Zoan devil fruit solely because he was hungry, which we have no idea what it is or what it can do
- Other things I’m obviously missing
Now, I hear the rebuttal: We already have the answers to that. Yamato is just a derivative of Oden/Ace/Kaido/whoever else I can make a flimsy connection to!
True, we have learned the following:
- Still don’t know why Kaido didn’t want to deal with Yamato. Remember, Yamato confronted Kaido, not vice versa.
- We have a good concept why Yamato is a difficult task for the Tobi Roppo. He strong. Sasaki shook.
- Still don’t know the purpose of the hannya mask. Yes, it concealed his face for the initial reveal, but Oda doesn’t just do things in a vacuum.
- Still no answer why Kaido CHAINED HIM UP WITH EXPLOSIVE CUFFS. Why can’t he leave the island?!
- He wants to sail with Luffy because Luffy said the same words as the Pirate King.
- Kaido STILL wants him to be shogun, despite his uprising again.
- Don’t know why he was on Wano at age 8, no handcuffs.
- Oden’s boiling is self explanatory, part of his introduction.
- Don’t know how he managed to get to Kuri alone at age 8 or what happened there.
- Don’t know how/when he found the logbook or who placed it there.
- Ace’s influence was obvious, inherited will and all that.
- How did he know Luffy was going to be there THIS night?
- Why did Kaido want the fruit Yamato ate? Why was it hard for Kaido, A FREAKING YONKO, to get this fruit? What did Kaido have planned for it?
That is a shit ton of mystery Oda has set up in this 30 chapters where you argue “nothing happened.” Some of them, like the hannya mask, could just be a visual thing that already served its purpose, but to think ALL these mysteries are solved? Nowhere close. For example, I personally don’t care what Oda does about why Kuma is a cyborg now or what Carrot will do with the dawn plot, but I’m not so obtuse as to say that Oda isn’t setting up those mysteries. I mean hell, Carrot, the only other legitimate contender for the next crewmate, didn’t get that personality until the end of WCI. And that's the only personality/mystery she has.
And hell, I thought Law was boring AF until the end of Dressrosa when we got his flashback. I could easily make the same argument that Dressora dragged on because of Law, he’s preventing other characters like Robin from shining, the narrative would be so much tighter without Law in the story. Then Corazon came and fuck, Law made Dressrosa great and it wouldn’t be the same without him. Trust in Oda to do the same for Yamato, because he’s clearly setting it up that way.
Alright that's it , reading everything compiled together like this has convinced me.
Toki is the missing piece here, maybe it wasn't just the Journal Yamato found in the river. It was Kozuki Toki herself, whose also the person who healed the Scabbards, not Hiyori who as far as we know is not on Onigashima. Toki is likely the inspiration or true mentor to Yamato and "Preacher" of Oden's bible if you will. Maybe her survival is somehow tied to her ability , but her and Yamato were eventually found out by Kaido and she was held captive all these years because Kaido is infatuated with her and Yamato being shackled with explosives was not only to keep Yamato prisoner but to keep Toki in line who grew an admiration for Yamato.
I'll stop just short of her being the Mother of Yamato and the half siblings of Momo and Hiyori, then again she has time travel powers.
Random thought: Toki lied to Oden when she said she came from the past. She actually came from the future and She was Kaido's first before falling for Oden from finding his Journal and going back in time and shes stuck in a time loop, hence the prophecies. Which is how Orochi got Kaido to play ball to begin with, it was to get his wife and baby mama back from Oden.
Yamato is definitely the next Strawhat.
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Yamato got a lot of focus in recent chapter is justice for his character because the current plot is about beating kaido.
When the next plot is about opening wano, you may expect some other char like kozuki and their retainer to get some focus. That is when we may get some interesting candidate outside yamato
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Random thought: Toki lied to Oden when she said she came from the past. She actually came from the future and She was Kaido's first before falling for Oden from finding his Journal and going back in time and shes stuck in a time loop, hence the prophecies. Which is how Orochi got Kaido to play ball to begin with, it was to get his wife and baby mama back from Oden.
Oda put the series in a bad enough spot when ehe introduced forward time travel.
He can never, EVER introduce backwards time travel because that breaks things FAST. :Why didn't they just go back and stop X? Why not save Y?" That's a can of worms absolutely best avoided.
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Oda put the series in a bad enough spot when ehe introduced forward time travel.
He can never, EVER introduce backwards time travel because that breaks things FAST. :Why didn't they just go back and stop X? Why not save Y?" That's a can of worms absolutely best avoided.
But Robby let's be honest here the moment any type of time travel was introduced all bets were off.
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Which means Yamato is totally a main character, since Deicide is always wrong.
@Zik:
Been noticing this as well. Almost a bit JoyBoyish.
You disagree with him, fine. But comments like these aren't allowed. No one is always wrong. He's got an opinion, same as you, and he's respected yours as far as I've seen.
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Don't volume spreads just feature characters that happen to be important at the moment? Like, volume 100 happens to coincide with Yamato having his moment?
If that was the case it should've been Law and Killer on volume 100's cover, not Ace and Yamato
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Bart did feel like he was instrumental in the fleet being constructed. Yamato would fit as the leader of something like that pertaining Wano characters. Kano Country has the Happo Navy too. Competent entities have great generals.
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Oda put the series in a bad enough spot when ehe introduced forward time travel.
He can never, EVER introduce backwards time travel because that breaks things FAST. :Why didn't they just go back and stop X? Why not save Y?" That's a can of worms absolutely best avoided.
Imagining that a backwards time traveler isn't Toki theres plenty outs for that; its an antagonist, the user is crazy, the user has a specific goal and ignores a bunch of other stuff, the user can't fully control their time traveling, even though they can change things they're not strong or smart enough to do certain things, etc.
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As someone wise once said, not even Naruto (and Bleach) involved time travel. That's a whole can of wriggly worms.
That also reminds me of the theory that Momo will gain super aging that makes him adult, basically Oden v2.55 and suddenly he goes toe-to-toe with Kaido and Luffy. I hate that theory so much…
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Interestingly enough, when I first saw how Kaido's subordinates dressed. I instantly thought of Avalo Pizarro bc of the way his fake horns looked.
Boy, would it be very interesting if he had a lion fruit lol. Cat vs Dog. I dig it