Okay, so that's a lot to unpack. But, I think we got some good ideas brewing over the day, so let me add my two cents. But, before that, I should answer some direct questions that were asked of me.
@Kitsune:
Kmohyudin: If you're mafia, you're playing a careful game at odds with a need to cause a mislynch. If you're mafia, I believe your scumbuddy was already on the wagon beside you. Are you at all suspicious of Huschel or Fizzie? Also, can you explain in your own words your thought process when it came time to switch from no lynching to lynching kevo?
Certainly. The reason for my "switch", and I will explain why that's in quotes in a sec, was threefold. Punishing inactivity, making progress, and most importantly; negation of my reasons to NOT vote. Let me explain:
First of all, Kevo wasn't the only person not active yesterday. I would say that half the "town" wasn't participating as they should, and that included you, Shuhan, and no swords. I understand that there were real world reasons for that, but purely from the information we had back then, it was obvious that inactivity has become the bane of town's progress. The game started at day 0, so technically this was the second day of inactivity and to be frank, I got frustrated. Even at the start of the day, in my second post (#71), I said as such. Therefore, I felt that it was necessary to take action and use my vote to punish inactivity so that any potential lurking mafia would know that the town isn't afraid to make hard decisions.
Second, unless we took action, it seemed to me that the town would be stuck in sort of a "Limbo" (haha, get it?) and that we wouldn't have anything new to discuss the next day. I would suggest that your interesting analysis of bandwagon wouldn't have followed unless there was a vote yesterday. This is also something I suggested when I posted my vote (#91).
Lastly, there were two main reasons for me to be suggesting a no lynch. One I was afraid that we might lose a power role, but I said before I voted, that at some point we had to realize that an inactive power role, doesn't really help us (#89). The second reason was my assumption that not lynching day 1 would give our investigative roles an extra night (#77). Which I later realized is the same thing as being in a MYLO situation and not voting. Therefore, both of my reasons kinda faded and the merits of lynching become more apparent than demerits.
The second question you asked regarding Fizzie and Huschel, I would say Fizzie is a little higher on my list than Huschel.
@Huschel:
Fair enough. I'd appreciate input on today's big themes:
- lynch or no lynch?
- mafia teams (not individual members)
I also want to know what you think about starla claiming vanilla townie.
1. No lynch obviously. We are in MYLO.
2. Right now, I am leaning towards a Fizzie-Kitsune. You and Starla seem townish to me. Shuhan is giving me bad vibes individually, but can't see him as part of a team, you know?
3. They shouldn't have claimed. But, I think KI explained that well.
@Kitsune:
Shuhan: If you're mafia, I feel like you deliberately waited for the hammer to cast your vote, and if I'm right about Starla, you are the only person in the back half of the wagon who raises suspicion. Can you explain why you voted for Kevo ten minutes after the hammer had already dropped? Also, how much stock do you put into the shape of wagons?
@Shuhan, I don't think you answered this question.
@Kitsune:
kmo is waiting for a "compelling" reason to drop his no lynch stance…
...Here, kmo is lowering his guard about a no lynch.
@Fizzie:
I'm mostly suspicious of kmohyudin for the reasons you listed, jumping on the bandwagon after pushing for no lynch.
These seem a bit unfair. I'd say calling what I did "pushing for a no lynch" is a stretch at best, and deliberately misleading at worst. Can you please show me where exactly was I pushing for a no lynch?
@kevo_koma:
sorry for not participating guys,
My small sister was hit with covid and I had to take care of her for awhile. she;s doing ok, luckily its not the new strain that's devastating my country
I hope I can participate next time
Oh dear. I hope she is better, and you are awesome to take care of her!
@Huschel:
I've been trying to think about the way the mafia picks their kill target. Let's say that after Day 1 I was a high-profile target, but they were scared of me being protected by a doctor or observed by a watcher. Now during Day 2, people have grown more suspicious of me, so those two roles may be less inclined to target me and mafia might off me after all. This is just an example. What I'm getting at is that we can potentially try to figure out the power the mafia has by analyzing what they are(n't) afraid of. Just something for the future.
Ooh OOH!! So, what I think you are trying to say is that since the mafia went for a unobvious target; that implies that if they had a role that would enable them to either kill without repercussion (ninja) or kill unobstructed (strongman) they would had more confidence to go after a more obvious target (which from your POV is you)? But, since they didn't… that would... what? Mean it's more likely that there role is a godfather?