@Green_vs_Red:
Is he even canon?
No. But neither is any of Super past the movies. Heck, even old stuff long accepted like History of Bardock and History of Trunks aren't canon anymore either. It's all made up by the animation staff, with Toriyama occasionally throwing in a little input on designs, just as he did for the old movies. . They made a roster of 80 brand new characters to throw into the thing, and made an abusive ongoing joke about Yamcha being worthless and threw away Tien after he got one fight (when the other members all got BS power ups)
And while anything that happened in ol DBZ is questionable at this point since Kai cut most of the filler, it IS a character in the roster, and they go back to stuff like Super 4 all the time in the spinoff media even though GT is certainly non-canon by now. (Especially in Heroes)
They can do whatever they want. They weren't limited to bringing back THAT character. They had three decades of old characters they could have gone to, (Hey, Aralae is joked powered super powerful. Deviman could have blown up a opponent before getting disqualified.) or invented someone new. Heck, Android 17 was new for all intents and purposes given he hadn't been seen except for one scene since Cell.
Sure if we overlook Recoome damn near paralyzing Vegeta, Gohan, & Krillin.
We overlook Vegeta paralyzing Goku and his minion killing half the crew. We overlook Piccollo shattering every lib in Goku's body and then later actually killing him.
Burter and Jeice didn't seem that bad. ANd Ginyu's body switch mechanic probably would have worked nicely at the tourney up to a point. maybe not on Jiren and Hit, but certainly some of the lower tiers.
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@gyuukarubi:
I’m simply stating that it’s an objective fact that Goku and Freeza saved the universe.
17 won the tournament. And they outnumbered Jiren 3 to 1 by the end. Goku and 17 could have just run around the edges for a couple seconds to wait for a time out, they didn't HAVE to win by beating Jiren. (Outside of shonen law.)
Frieza helped due to the scenario he helped create. The final competiors might have been very different if he hadn't been there. Maybe Frost would have helped fight Jiren instead. Maybe Gohan still would have been in it if his final opponent strategy hadn't depended on Frieza. Maybe Goku could have tried a fusion. That was too big and varied a fight to judge, it wasn't about JUST overpowering one single guy for once and needing exactly that power level to top them..
Maybe Tien taking out that one sniper is ultimately what really won it because that allowed character X to beat character Y later. Or whoever noticed the tiny guy (Piccollo?)
And we have no idea how well someone like Buu would have done with his part splitting, turning enemies to candy, and near infinite stamina and healing powers.
@gyuukarubi:
Pikuhan isn’t canon and Android 16 wasn’t strong enough.
If Krillin, Tien, and Roshi were all strong enough to be in the tournament, even if not to the end, 16 certainly was.
And all of Super is filler past the movies, just like GT was. "Canon" is only what they want it to be and limited only by their imaginations. Even without grabbing from the 3 decades of old characters, they could have easily made new ones. They clearly didn't give a single shit about Tien, and 17 was basically a new character for all intents and purposes that they just grabbed from the archive, so they might as well have tried making someone new or usng a different underserved character. Cripes, finally teach Kaioken to the humans or something.