i wonder if Helmeppo is part of SWORD. they were a pair preskip. But I don't think we've seen them together since then.
Chapter 956: BIG NEWS
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It's not about the fact that there is someone to punch. There was always going to be someone to punch.
Its that the reveal and the existence of this specific character in this specific context and role that radically changes 20 years of tone and nuance into something far less foreshadowed and far more mundane.
We had admirals and pacifistas and Blackbeard and three ancient weapons to Punch already, there were a lot of things already established that, upon beating would restore the order at the end of the day. Aikanu could have got powermad to the absolute extremes in the name of his justice and needed to be taken down for that reason, for instance. Im… the great master planner schemer who has secretly been behind all the bad things for 700 years is less satisfying than that chaos, that human nature at play..
Blackbeard is a fantastic villain because he's not your typical evil genius mastermind plotter responsible for everything in the world. Meanwhile... Im is EXACTLY that super boring cliche.
Maybe he'll be better and pay off when its all said and done, but right now, he weakens the story. In the same way that Oda not killing anyone for 20 years weakened the story to the point there's four or five potentially credible deaths on the table right now and we're still just waiting for Oda to reverse them whenever he feels like its time for them to be alive. Or the way haki in general just mucked up all combat in the second half of the series because Oda didn't decide the final rules on it until very late so it didn't make sense with what we knew and it hasn't really added anything interesting..
It takes a strength of the story and removes it for a weaker thing, and that sucks.
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i wonder if Helmeppo is part of SWORD. they were a pair preskip. But I don't think we've seen them together since then.
They escorted the Dressrosa party together.
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At this point this paints absolutely nothing though. It was a ridiculous chapter that raised more questions than anything, and I don't quite understand why it could ruin people's expectations. Unless you all know more than I do (which might very well be the case).
Because all I took from the chapter was that the Gorosei decided that a sacrifice needed to be made, and that Imu is going to decide who's going to be sacrificed. Like some sort of oracle.
Maybe Imu is indeed the ruler of the world, simply because she sat on the throne no one is supposed to sit on. But maybe that story was bullshit to begin with to keep the kings of the world in check, and Imu just underlines that by not giving a damn.
Maybe there is a religious component to the World Government. Similiar to various oppressive regimes in the real world, where you have a ruling class and a religious caste influencing politics.But whatever the case, it's weird to me to be disappointed at this point in time. Yes, Imu being the Rabbit Lady Boss of One Piece would be lame for the reasons noted, but we aren't even at that point.
Exactly that's how I see Imu as well. As an oracle and spiritual leader instead of someone really having political power. I assume she has the same power of future-telling as Madame Shirley.
Therefore, all I see in Imu is a tool - both narrative-wise as well as intraworldly. She's basically nothing more than a mindless super-computer which just aids the Gorosei from what we've seen. Sure she gets a lot of respect, but if I'd buy the world's most modern super computer, I'd put in on a pedestral, too. The purpose of scene involving the Gorosei and Imu less was to show how powerful and an evil overlord this Imu person is, instead the real purpose of that scene is to show that the WG/Gorosei - aka the embodiment of status quo - will actually take agency and action towards the upcoming great final war instead of just sitting it out and only react to what's to come.
I don't even see a need for Imu to get punched at all. As until now she's a complete tool and we've yet to see any real own agency from Imu, that is, anything that makes her more than just a tool helping the Gorosei to make their decision.
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I always saw Im as someone Oda made up more recently because Gorosei, Yonkou and Admirals have been there for so long already and he just wanted to draw or bring another player or another aspect to the OP World. Maybe that's why there was no foreshadowing at all - which maybe considered a flaw from how Oda sometimes foreshadows even the very little details.
Yet we know absolutely nothing regarding Ims future role or how powerful they are. Sure a core representation of the WG as their hidden leader but with so many other foes out there I'm not sure that Oda will find a unique way to make use of Im.
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Mihawk is so weird to me, I do wonder why he became a pirate, and what's he done to get a reward on his head.
Dude acts more educated than several kings and government agents tbh.
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I only just noticed that Morgans employees are excitedly documenting his big character moment.
Meaning that he could very well publish an article titled "Daring newspaper president knocks government agent the hell out after attempted bribery" in tomorrows paper
Morgans: Best character of the last 100 chapters, or best character post-skip? Discuss.
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No one else here thinks Im is the final Ancient Weapon and a literal "celestial dragon"/space dragon? That is where the nobles name come from as an homage to Im.
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Yes, Morgans is awesome. And I see him being the one printing about the Void Century after Robin discovers it. I am sure they will meet up before Raftel as well. Morgans' character path is shaping up as I am imagining. Crooked journalist, inspired by Luffy, seeks to expose and give access to information to the people. Freedom of speech fighter. He was already Big Mom's target. I am happy he is finally done being the government's puppet.
He is my, I wish he would join the Straw Hats. Someone has to write the adventures of God Usopp instead of Sora, marine propaganda BS. Maybe a crossover.
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@Daz:
I only just noticed that Morgans employees are excitedly documenting his big character moment.
Meaning that he could very well publish an article titled "Daring newspaper president knocks government agent the hell out after attempted bribery" in tomorrows paper
Morgans: Best character of the last 100 chapters, or best character post-skip? Discuss.
Morgans is like Bege, in a sense that he's a character with an intriguing design I didn't expect much from. That's what allowed both to catch me off-guard with their awesomeness, compared to big names that simply have to deliver (Kaido…). That we are guaranteed to see more of them makes me happy.
Best character post time skip though? That's Big Mom no question. Whenever she shows up my attention level reaches 200%, even if she's just eating pancakes or homies or homiepancakes.
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Exactly that's how I see Imu as well. As an oracle and spiritual leader instead of someone really having political power. I assume she has the same power of future-telling as Madame Shirley.
Therefore, all I see in Imu is a tool - both narrative-wise as well as intraworldly. She's basically nothing more than a mindless super-computer which just aids the Gorosei from what we've seen. Sure she gets a lot of respect, but if I'd buy the world's most modern super computer, I'd put in on a pedestral, too. The purpose of scene involving the Gorosei and Imu less was to show how powerful and an evil overlord this Imu person is, instead the real purpose of that scene is to show that the WG/Gorosei - aka the embodiment of status quo - will actually take agency and action towards the upcoming great final war instead of just sitting it out and only react to what's to come.
I don't even see a need for Imu to get punched at all. As until now she's a complete tool and we've yet to see any real own agency from Imu, that is, anything that makes her more than just a tool helping the Gorosei to make their decision.
Im sits upon the throne. Gorosei the so called highest ranking celestial dragons bow before this person. Im rules the world and isn't just some figure head
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Im sits upon the throne. Gorosei the so called highest ranking celestial dragons bow before this person. Im rules the world and isn't just some figure head
How many people bowed before the Queen? Prime Ministers included?
How many governments consult a bunch of mullahs before making crucial decisions?
Nothing is clear here. Maybe Imu literally rules the world, maybe she doesn't. But acting like this chapter confirmed anything is simply wrong.
I get that even the possibility may disappoint people, but that's all I'm seeing here: a possibility. Presented in a chapter that was filled with eyebrow-raising reveals. Similiar to the current chapter, really.
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It really does feels like Im is just some sort of oracle figure that can predict the future or some shit. They just do it better than the vague Shyarly and Hawkins or the limited Luffy and Katakuri.
They don't really look the fighting type.
Im sits upon the throne. Gorosei the so called highest ranking celestial dragons bow before this person. Im rules the world and isn't just some figure head
Considering the Celestial Dragons themselves are figure heads, it wouldn't be surprising. The Gorosei's higher ranks don't prevent them from ignoring the lower CDs.
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The whole implication of the empty throne being empty is that no power stands above the countries as they all stand in equal terms, and then Im sitting on it means that Im is the true - albeit secret - governor.
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It really does feels like Im is just some sort of oracle figure that can predict the future or some shit. They just do it better than the vague Shyarly and Hawkins or the limited Luffy and Katakuri.
They don't really look the fighting type.
Considering the Celestial Dragons themselves are figure heads, it wouldn't be surprising. The Gorosei's higher ranks don't prevent them from ignoring the lower CDs.
As far as I'm concerned, Im is an immortal who has ruled over the world since the founding of the W.G 800 years ago when the 20 Kings pledged before the throne they were sitting on, and was the mastermind behind whatever events occured during the void ventury.
Maybe they can see the future, who knows…
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Im is either weaker than Spandam or has some ridiculous BS god-tier powers and an army is needed to deal with him (or at the very least the entire crew). I see no room for middle grounds with this guy.
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The whole implication of the empty throne being empty is that no power stands above the countries as they all stand in equal terms, and then Im sitting on it means that Im is the true - albeit secret - governor.
It may be that Oda pulls a "but not really" later, but there is absolutely no ambiguity in what he was aiming to show there.Exactly. He is the true leader of Mary Geoise.
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Mihawk is so weird to me, I do wonder why he became a pirate, and what's he done to get a reward on his head.
Dude acts more educated than several kings and government agents tbh.
Well i mean once he mastered the sword and bought the stuff for his Spaniard in a coffin theme set his evenings were probably wide open. Drinking wine and reading, picking up some vagrants, reading some more, getting more wine to drink and read with etc etc.
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Nothing is clear here. Maybe Imu literally rules the world, maybe she doesn't. But acting like this chapter confirmed anything is simply wrong.
I get that even the possibility may disappoint people, but that's all I'm seeing here: a possibility. Presented in a chapter that was filled with eyebrow-raising reveals. Similiar to the current chapter, really.
I feel like the point of dedicading a chapter to the super duper throne never mentioned before and the whole insistence that sitting on it symbolize Stelly rules the world was that the person on it rules the world. Not that actually it's just just a nice chair where the oracle sits in because it's confortable.
It's a throne every kings including the ones with iunlimited powers made a pledge to. It also an homage to the throne of game thrones that symbolize when you are king of the kingdoms. I really don't think there's as much ambiguity as you seem to imply.
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The whole implication of the empty throne being empty is that no power stands above the countries as they all stand in equal terms, and then Im sitting on it means that Im is the true - albeit secret - governor.
It may be that Oda pulls a "but not really" later, but there is absolutely no ambiguity in what he was aiming to show there.I feel like the point of dedicading a chapter to the super duper throne never mentioned before and the whole insistence that sitting on it symbolize Stelly rules the world was that the person on it rules the world. Not that actually it's just just a nice chair where the oracle sits in because it's confortable.
It's a throne every kings including the ones with iunlimited powers made a pledge to. It also an homage to the throne of game thrones that symbolize when you are king of the kingdoms. I really don't think there's as much ambiguity as you seem to imply.
If there is no ambiguity, if Oda doesn't want us to speculate, then why didn't he properly introduce Imu as the ruler of the world? Why no intro box, like he usually does when important people are introduced? I mean according to some, Imu sitting on the throne seals the deal. So why hesitate? Give me that intro box. No need to give me a breakdown of Imu's abilities, just her role in the government.
Oda didn't waste time to establish Aokiji as a Marine Admiral, the greatest fighting force the Marines have to offer. Or the Gorosei as the highest authority of the World Government. Or Sengoku as the Fleet Admiral. Or the seemingly random Commander-In-Chief Kong, where I don't even know what exactly this dude is all about. But I know he exists and we have a vague idea about his job.With Imu? It's insinuated that she might be the leader of the world. Or that she is the secret treasure Doflamingo was talking about. Or that she is simply the other side of the Government coin, similiar to the examples I listed earlier. Or maybe she is a bit of everything!
The only thing that's clear to me is that nothing is supposed to be clear at this point.
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Well Im didn't get a intro-box so of course there wasn't a title. We didn't even get a proper look at the guy. And even if she's ruling the world, that could be with any number of titles: 'Supreme leader', 'Holy Pope', 'First Citizen' , 'Grand Master', 'Emperor of Awesome', etc. And I'm sure we'll see it in their actual introduction.
That chapter wasn't so much the introduction to the character as to the idea that there's someone in the WG above everyone else.
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On the Imu discussion, I say wait and see. We know next to nothing about the character yet, so I feel it's premature too many assumptions about his/her role in the story to come.
People act as though s/he is some immortal super-schemer who orchestrated the rise of the World Government and has presided over centuries of oppression in its name, but s/he could just as easily be a scared, isolated figurehead - the latest in a long line of "Imu"s - who is constantly told of how the chaos of the world is threatening to tear it apart and is desperately trying to hold together the only thing s/he knows.
Even if the actions s/he takes are cruel, autocratic, and genocidal on the surface, the motivations that drive those actions could paint a wildly different picture as the "veil" is gradually pulled back on who/what Imu really is.
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@Daz:
I only just noticed that Morgans employees are excitedly documenting his big character moment.
Meaning that he could very well publish an article titled "Daring newspaper president knocks government agent the hell out after attempted bribery" in tomorrows paper
Morgans: Best character of the last 100 chapters, or best character post-skip? Discuss.
Last 100 chapters probably, post-skip I'd say he's in my top 5. I mean, he is like a combination of Uncle Scrooge and J. Jonah Jameson!
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And even if she's ruling the world, that could be with any number of titles: 'Supreme leader', 'Holy Pope', 'First Citizen' , 'Grand Master', 'Emperor of Awesome',
Galactic President Superstar McAwesomeville
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I agree that it is not clear, and that the path of less resistance of "Let's punch the ancient dictator in the face! for freedom!" is boring.
And that Oda did deliver Hodi, Vanderdecken and Caribou in the same arc without tying them together under a satisfying final conflict.
And that I overtought the Mingo/Trebol conection, imagining switches in order to give Law his proper closure and Luffy the end boss, while in the end it was Trebol's medling that enabled Doffy's spoiled brat tendencies into full megalomania.
What I'm saying is: let's wait and see what the frozen straw hat collector actually is. But in One Piece you can't be a world class combatant if you aren't clashing and growing.
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I bet Im has a clown face. He is the next clown to make it big after buggy and cc.
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Everyone's reaction to Koby this chapter ('Rear' instead of 'Red'):
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How many battleships they sent out for each Shichibukai?
Buggy-7 (1 is already enough for the original buggy crew, lol)
Mihawk-8 (doubt any of these ships will be able to dock, that is considering Mihawk allows them to chase him probably of boredom, lol)
Weevil-cant count the ships (but arent they underestimating him?)
Hancock-6 (Boa is on an advantage here, she can just command all sea kings in the area using conqueror haki to take out the ships, but I'm curious how Coby will react when he finds out Hancock and Luffy are friends. It does seem like its not in the Calm Belt because the waves are not calm at all.)It's almost like they are sending a buster call for each shichibukai but can't confirm if it has close to 5 Vice Admirals, probably not.
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Wow, best chapter in months. So X Drake was a double agent after all (I can't remember who predicted that but good job).
Even if the other Shichibukai are no longer protected, shouldn't they then have to actively commit a crime to then get chased? Not everyone is doing what Doflamingo was up to. Also, how are they going to find Moria? He's the only one they didn't show being cornered, and he's supposed to be near where Blackbeard is (unless BB killed him too…which, not going to lie, BB should have since that shadow DF is freakin' awesome.) BB is trying to intercept someone, likely Sabo, having been captured so he can remedy the situation where Burgess failed to get the Mera Mera no Mi during the gladiator matches, although the news made it sound like Sabo was dead (also, is he Makino's baby-daddy?!!!!), but then is that just bluster to boost up Morgans' paper sales? Also now I like Morgans a lot. Knocking the crap out of that CP guy was a bold move and I have mad respect for that kind of thing. Props. Oh, and why is Stelly calling Sabo his brother? Weird.
Having Moria conspicuously absent from the Shichibukai manhunt does make me think he's going to show up in Wano and help.
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Hancock-6 (Boa is on an advantage here, she can just command all sea kings in the area using conqueror haki to take out the ships
When did Hancock become aquaman
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I wikied Rear Admiral and it's the lowest Admiral rank right above Captain. For someone who was trained by Garp it's no surprise I think. Luffy is a Grand Admiral if you will.
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If a history in piracy is indeed needed to join SWORD, then Jango is in.
Would mean Vivi and Rebecca were both escorted by SWORD members:ninja:
In addition, given Garp and Coby's relationship, may Garp is in, or at least aware of it as well, all of three Luffollower princesses were all escorted by SWORD itself.
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I wikied Rear Admiral and it's the lowest Admiral rank right above Captain. For someone who was trained by Garp it's no surprise I think. Luffy is a Grand Admiral if you will.
Actually it's second lowest Admiral rank above Commodore which is directly above Captain. Next step is Vice-admiral.
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I wonder who are the spies in the Marines\WG. There is/was Kuma. I hope there will be more
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When did Hancock become aquaman
She can't command, but she can corral them with the two snakes that pull her ship.
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I completely forgot about Hancock's snake monsters. Interesting solution for her more complicated situation, at least short term.
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Also, how are they going to find Moria?
Having Moria conspicuously absent from the Shichibukai manhunt does make me think he's going to show up in Wano and help.
Moria hasn't been a Shichibukai for over two years. He was revoked of the title after he got his ass whooped by Luffy on Thriller Bark and failed to do anything useful in the Paramount War. Along with just generally being useless.
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I'm late to the conversation on Imu, but I'd still like to add my agreement regarding what others have said, while also agreeing that, if she was indeed some final villain of incredible power that needs to be punched in order to set the world back to its Proper Order, it would be an extraordinarily bad move on Oda's part. But she seems like more of a symbol, both in-text and in a narrative sense. Imu represents the underlying fraud behind the World Government, the lie that all nations have an equal seat at the table, that Garp took a shot at in this chapter. She's that but literal, the proverbial "man behind the curtain" that's pulling the strings and guiding the world to keep the power structures from ever changing. I don't think Luffy necessarily needs to beat her in a fight, or even meet her personally, just her existence being exposed to the world would probably be enough to knock her (and the Gorosei who support her) toppling down from the pedestal. Throwing my own theory in, I think it'd be neat if the one to do that would be a Marine, either Coby or Smoker would be fitting for the job.
Then again, that's only from what we know about Imu right now, and Oda does love to throw surprises at us, so her real nature might be totally unexpected and off the rails. That, I think, might just be the best option.
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I'm late to the conversation on Imu, but I'd still like to add my agreement regarding what others have said, while also agreeing that, if she was indeed some final villain of incredible power that needs to be punched in order to set the world back to its Proper Order, it would be an extraordinarily bad move on Oda's part. But she seems like more of a symbol, both in-text and in a narrative sense. Imu represents the underlying fraud behind the World Government, the lie that all nations have an equal seat at the table, that Garp took a shot at in this chapter. She's that but literal, the proverbial "man behind the curtain" that's pulling the strings and guiding the world to keep the power structures from ever changing. I don't think Luffy necessarily needs to beat her in a fight, or even meet her personally, just her existence being exposed to the world would probably be enough to knock her (and the Gorosei who support her) toppling down from the pedestal. Throwing my own theory in, I think it'd be neat if the one to do that would be a Marine, either Coby or Smoker would be fitting for the job.
Then again, that's only from what we know about Imu right now, and Oda does love to throw surprises at us, so her real nature might be totally unexpected and off the rails. That, I think, might just be the best option.
Perfectly said, although I wouldn't care if Im is powerful in combat too.
I would just like to add that Im-sama in fact represents the fraud of the WG, but being so without destabilizing the current world order on a practical level, because the power of Mary Geoise over the affiliated kingdoms is unquestionable. The Reverie may symbolize a more democratic aspect of the geopolitical scenario of the WG, but the Tenryuubito can still try to kidnap a princess in front of everybody else and no king can raise a finger without becoming a rebel. The Gorousei are the most powerful men in the world, the Tenryuubito can do whatever they want, and most countries just have to be submissive to the system in order to get the protection of the Marines and don't get stomped by the WG. Im-sama is just the personification of this system, the ultimate proof that somebody sits on the Empty Throne, joining the figurative sense with the literal.
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On the Imu discussion, I say wait and see. We know next to nothing about the character yet, so I feel it's premature too many assumptions about his/her role in the story to come.
People act as though s/he is some immortal super-schemer who orchestrated the rise of the World Government and has presided over centuries of oppression in its name, but s/he could just as easily be a scared, isolated figurehead - the latest in a long line of "Imu"s - who is constantly told of how the chaos of the world is threatening to tear it apart and is desperately trying to hold together the only thing s/he knows.
Even if the actions s/he takes are cruel, autocratic, and genocidal on the surface, the motivations that drive those actions could paint a wildly different picture as the "veil" is gradually pulled back on who/what Imu really is.
This. We know so little about Imu and this forum acts as if we're privy to his/her's entire place in the story. To me, the point of how Imu was presented, from design, to the actions Imu took, to Imu's place on the throne was to shround him/her and the workings of the World Government in mystery. I am intrigued by the mystery and find no reason to think the grey undertones of the Five Elder Stars no longer exist. I mean, we get the Shanks reveal the chapter before and that has to be an intentional reminder that these guys are complex and this government is as well. Imu reinforces that notion for me, rather than breaking it.
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Wow, best chapter in months. So X Drake was a double agent after all (I can't remember who predicted that but good job).
Even if the other Shichibukai are no longer protected, shouldn't they then have to actively commit a crime to then get chased? Not everyone is doing what Doflamingo was up to. Also, how are they going to find Moria? He's the only one they didn't show being cornered, and he's supposed to be near where Blackbeard is (unless BB killed him too…which, not going to lie, BB should have since that shadow DF is freakin' awesome.) BB is trying to intercept someone, likely Sabo, having been captured so he can remedy the situation where Burgess failed to get the Mera Mera no Mi during the gladiator matches, although the news made it sound like Sabo was dead (also, is he Makino's baby-daddy?!!!!), but then is that just bluster to boost up Morgans' paper sales? Also now I like Morgans a lot. Knocking the crap out of that CP guy was a bold move and I have mad respect for that kind of thing. Props. Oh, and why is Stelly calling Sabo his brother? Weird.
Having Moria conspicuously absent from the Shichibukai manhunt does make me think he's going to show up in Wano and help.
At first I thought it was weird that Hancock was being arrested since it felt like she just hung out around her island these days. But everyone still had their bounties, I assume unfrozen. I guess the Marines/Navy didn't consider completely wiping their bounties assuming/if the pirates ever even behaved. So the Marines/Navy decided to hunt them down while they had the chance.
Didn't Moria get removed during the White Beard war? Dofla gave him the news that he was no longer part of the group or something. Then Moria was on the run after the war. After the timeskip the Shichibukai were: 1. Mihawk, 2. Law, 3. Buggy, 4. Hancock, 5. Kuma, 6. WB Jr., and 7. Dofla (Then Dofla and Law resigned/got revoked.)
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There is a difference between a 70-80 chapter arc like Skypeia and WCI to 300 chapters arc
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Nah, some people are playing with scenarios.
Dressrosa was what…100 chapters? Regardless, my point stands.
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Wow, best chapter in months. So X Drake was a double agent after all (I can't remember who predicted that but good job).
Even if the other Shichibukai are no longer protected, shouldn't they then have to actively commit a crime to then get chased? Not everyone is doing what Doflamingo was up to. Also, how are they going to find Moria? He's the only one they didn't show being cornered, and he's supposed to be near where Blackbeard is (unless BB killed him too…which, not going to lie, BB should have since that shadow DF is freakin' awesome.) BB is trying to intercept someone, likely Sabo, having been captured so he can remedy the situation where Burgess failed to get the Mera Mera no Mi during the gladiator matches, although the news made it sound like Sabo was dead (also, is he Makino's baby-daddy?!!!!), but then is that just bluster to boost up Morgans' paper sales? Also now I like Morgans a lot. Knocking the crap out of that CP guy was a bold move and I have mad respect for that kind of thing. Props. Oh, and why is Stelly calling Sabo his brother? Weird.
Having Moria conspicuously absent from the Shichibukai manhunt does make me think he's going to show up in Wano and help.
Moria isn't a Schichibukai anymore
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Wow, best chapter in months. So X Drake was a double agent after all (I can't remember who predicted that but good job).
Even if the other Shichibukai are no longer protected, shouldn't they then have to actively commit a crime to then get chased? Not everyone is doing what Doflamingo was up to. Also, how are they going to find Moria? He's the only one they didn't show being cornered, and he's supposed to be near where Blackbeard is (unless BB killed him too…which, not going to lie, BB should have since that shadow DF is freakin' awesome.) BB is trying to intercept someone, likely Sabo, having been captured so he can remedy the situation where Burgess failed to get the Mera Mera no Mi during the gladiator matches, although the news made it sound like Sabo was dead (also, is he Makino's baby-daddy?!!!!), but then is that just bluster to boost up Morgans' paper sales? Also now I like Morgans a lot. Knocking the crap out of that CP guy was a bold move and I have mad respect for that kind of thing. Props. Oh, and why is Stelly calling Sabo his brother? Weird.
Having Moria conspicuously absent from the Shichibukai manhunt does make me think he's going to show up in Wano and help.
Do you forget who the Shichibukai were? Btw + Weevil
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On the Imu discussion, I say wait and see. We know next to nothing about the character yet, so I feel it's premature too many assumptions about his/her role in the story to come.
People act as though s/he is some immortal super-schemer who orchestrated the rise of the World Government and has presided over centuries of oppression in its name, but s/he could just as easily be a scared, isolated figurehead - the latest in a long line of "Imu"s - who is constantly told of how the chaos of the world is threatening to tear it apart and is desperately trying to hold together the only thing s/he knows.
Even if the actions s/he takes are cruel, autocratic, and genocidal on the surface, the motivations that drive those actions could paint a wildly different picture as the "veil" is gradually pulled back on who/what Imu really is.
Really doubt there's a long line of Imus. It almost looked like there was an emotional attachment to the frozen straw hat. As if Imu wants to reaffirm the decisions s/he has to make or something like that. Like it's both personal and overarching.
Then there's that Tequila Wolf bridge project, being built for 700 years straight. It's a sign of constant stability which is another sign there wasn't many changes in power structure.
And also, it would be a shame if there wasn't at least one character who was alive during that turning point in history, offering a personal perspective as to why the ancient kingdom had to go down.
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My personal crackpot theory is that Im needs to posses younger bodies to stay alive and that's why she wants Vivi.
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I wonder who are the spies in the Marines\WG. There is/was Kuma. I hope there will be more
Doesn't seem that much use for pirates to spy on the marines. Vergo was a plant all his life and he was just barely useful, if we are being generous
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My personal crackpot theory is that Im needs to posses younger bodies to stay alive and that's why she wants Vivi.
So she's a cougar?
I go with she's immortal and the one Doffly was going to take the body of thanks to Law. And she already had the immortal operation.
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Doesn't seem that much use for pirates to spy on the marines. Vergo was a plant all his life and he was just barely useful, if we are being generous
The revolutionaries probably can use some. But since the one they had was a pirate who are assholes the government don't trust they probably don't have much access either.
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What about the theory that Im had the immortality operation that doffy mentioned? Doe you guys think it's a possibility?
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Doesn't seem that much use for pirates to spy on the marines. Vergo was a plant all his life and he was just barely useful, if we are being generous
Most of his usefulness was off screen. Hard to tell how many times his info allowed Dofla to avoid capture. Not to mention his influence is what allowed PH operation to run smoothly in the first place.
And his usefulness was cut short with the SH incursion. Imagine what he could have done in the future.
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What about the theory that Im had the immortality operation that doffy mentioned? Doe you guys think it's a possibility?
More like probability.
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Oda keeps pushing coby but what I want is more smoker. Based on alabasta/punk hazard, he should be after one of the warlords and capture him, not cobaby.