Spoiler Chapter 113
Levi…
! https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/shingeki-no-kyojin-chapter-113-spoiler-pics-and-summaries-thread.3012372/
! So, he fodderized him again.
Spoiler Chapter 113
Levi…
! https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/shingeki-no-kyojin-chapter-113-spoiler-pics-and-summaries-thread.3012372/
! So, he fodderized him again.
@-Pk-:
Spoiler Chapter 113
Levi…
! https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/shingeki-no-kyojin-chapter-113-spoiler-pics-and-summaries-thread.3012372/
! So, he fodderized him again.
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I love you Levi . . . . .
https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/attack-on-titan/en/0/113/page/1
Levi…you’re the MC from now on.
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I see nothing wrong with this. Levi for MC.
Levi is da MC now.
! It's weird, for a long time I really did not like Levi at all and thought his huge popularity was baffling. (I still feel this way about Trafalgar Law…) But ever since Erwin died I've pretty much done a complete 180 and want him to somehow live a happy and content life after all this mess and if he comes to any harm I will be super upset!
I don't think that there is a happy future awaiting to any of these characters. Maybe Jean.
I guess Zeke will be the bargain chip to release Mikasa and co.
For every bad there is some good. And vice versa.
But damn, new chapter not until March?
Could it be that we've been misinterpreting AoT this whole time? It is possible that the titans are the protagonists and that the story is about them overcoming the looming threat of Levi? Because, to be honest, the amount of despair Levi invokes in the titans none of them can hope to ever match.
It's entirely ridiculous how strong that little guy is.
I dont know I think eren could take him and might if they end up fighting
But having zeke tied up is a valuable hostage
Oh, Zeke had ANOTHER plan, emotionally backed by the upcoming flashback I presume. I'm getting tired of this. Of Eren and his fanboys too. At least the Levi action was nice.
@Long:
I dont know I think eren could take him and might if they end up fighting
But having zeke tied up is a valuable hostage
I dunno. Eren may be using all kinds of titan powers in his current state but I feel like Levi would find a way and come out on top.
We'll probably see that fight happen soon anyway as I don't think there's any other way to beat some sense into Eren (assuming he really is the "bad guy" right now and not just acting).
Oh, Zeke had ANOTHER plan, emotionally backed by the upcoming flashback I presume. I'm getting tired of this. Of Eren and his fanboys too. At least the Levi action was nice.
You think so? I hope we are about to see Zeke's despair. He already panicked a lot in this chapter.
Zeke underestimated Levi's badassery. Which you think he wouldn't since he already was almost taken out by him.
For the first time with this series, I wish it would get on with it. Even with all the slow parts in Trost, the Uprising and Marley arc.
The idea that the Marleyan Eldians don't have any other perspectives but their own to go off of has been done several times now.
Zeke failed to take down Levi because he goes off of this only perspective he has, which is that the Eldians are dumb, prideful assholes. He doesn't understand that they do everything to make all the sacrifices that happen mean something and take action when needed.
This has been done in different ways for a bunch of characters now. Eren, Reiner, Gabi come to mind. All stuck in their own perspectives at first.
https://m.imgur.com/a/u3xs7Hz
Another one bites the dust
! Cripple Levi will still be the bane of Marley.
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https://m.imgur.com/a/u3xs7Hz
Another one bites the dust! Cripple Levi will still be the bane of Marley.
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Link shows up blank for me.
Shit, looks like the chapter got deleted.
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Well Levi gonna be out of the final battle
That hurt my soul.
Nope, still don't care much about Zeke.
Me either. Your dad was a dick, but you are an even bigger one, Zeke.
But Levi's not down yet!
I feel like everyone in their world is an irredeemable bastard.
So quick question. Has anyone else heard about this author hating Jewish people and being a holocaust denier?
I ask cause another group I'm in has cancelled him over this.
Sounds like something some die hard nerd would came up because of the racism present in the manga.
The whole eldian-marley situation seem to point in the opposite way.
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That's kinda why I'm asking here. People tend to know what's happening more or have better articles.
I'd say he'd be more of a "Rape of Nanjing" denier. If anything. We have yet to see the shoe drop, if Eren's revenge against everything attitude, or Sasha's family attitude is going to win in the end.
The way that Japan is with their WWII crimes is disconcerting, to say the least. Remove your rapist heroes and war crimianls from named graves or proper temples, ask for forgiveness while there is still people who can forgive you, offer compensation to them, and stop denying that story. Or else it will become a myth and come back to bite you whenever you least expect it.
I'm more inclined to believe Zeke's family than the Marley goverment, considering that there might be some truth in the ancient titan's war, but I seriously doubt that any of that has anything to do with the modern plot, is irrelevant who in ancient history, with mind control involved, attacked first, the important part is to end the oppresion of the Eldian people, and for them to forsake the titan weapons. If they have the power to control if they can breed or no, then they can also turn off the titan potential.
That's kinda why I'm asking here. People tend to know what's happening more or have better articles.
The only "fact" we have is that Pixis was based on a imperialist admiral from the Korean War era.
The Isayama "hating the Jewish" (and in association the story being imperialist and nationalist) claim comes from Isayama's insensitive and racist tweet about Korea that surfaced 5 or so years ago, along with a blog post from 2010 or so about Pixis being based off of a famous war criminal and Isayama talking about him in a positive light.
What a lot of discussion around this ignores is the nuance behind Isayama's racism.
Japan has a lot of heavy racism going on against Koreans. They still deny and don't acknowledge what they've done to Korea properly to this day.
This racism, however, stands alone. It has nothing to do with anti-semitism, although stuff done to the Jewish people and the Koreans equally comes from racism and they equally suffered because of the actions of countries with an imperialist/nationalist mindset.
The thing is, the story supports the Eldians. You're clearly supposed to root for the Jewish allegory race inside the story.
So, how is this possible? How can Isayama understand the struggle and horrible things the Jewish people went through and still say stuff like that Japan actually helped Korea with their occupation?
The answer is, he doesn't really make that association - he can't turn the same lens involving the Jewish people inwards to Japan and them doing the same thing as Nazis.
I think he might've grown past that viewpoint, considering one post was almost a decade ago and the other was a tweet from 5 or so years ago and nothing else has surfaced since then. AoT is nothing but sympathetic to the oppressed race and sees Marley's and Hizuru's ambitions to take advantage of the Eldians as something negative. The story sees Floch's wish to rebuild the Eldian empire wrong, too.
So, while Isayama said something shitty, nothing what he said actually has any real direct association to what's going on in the story, as dissonant and as strange as it seems. I'd also like to give him the benefit of the doubt because his comment and post are so old now and nothing else seems to have surfaced.
It's a complicated issue made simple by people who don't look closer at any of it.
The second part of the complaint is that the story uses military imagery at all, but the thing is, what this ignores is that the story portrays war as brutal and horrible and something to be stopped. The openings of the story are a lie. War isn't glorious in AoT, it's horrible and brutal. So, while Isayama said some shitty things, I don't think the story supports any of it.
this is so fucking stupid lmao
Thanks Kizuchan. For the more detailed explanation.
Another aspect of this: I do think there are elements to criticize how the oppressed race and racism is handled in the story.
For all the story does right, the oppressed race should never be "given reason" to be oppressed because race is superficial and the only real difference between races is appearance. The story is sympathetic to the Eldians, but they can turn into giant flesh-eating monsters, actually giving the oppressors a reason to oppress them, however wrong it is portrayed in the story. A lot of stories about racism fall into this trap by making the allegory of the oppressed race into some sort of special power. But no, black people, Asians, the Jewish people, any racial minority (or even other minorities, like sexual minorities) don't have a secret superpower or some special trait because of their race/sexuality. They're just regular people like the majority. That's part of why racism is the issue it is - it's all based on images created of the race and using that image as a reason to hurt the minority race for convinient reasons to the majority (making them slaves to work for the majority, getting their money and land etc).
There is no actual "valid" reason behind it.
Add to that, the Jewish allegory isn't entirely tactful because the Jewish people have always been victims. They never had a grand empire conquering other nations.
I think this all could be resolved by making Marley a liar through and through. A twist that all people can actually turn into Titans and the Eldians never had a empire to begin with - I think that would make the story much better because it would make the hate just based on convinience of using the Eldians by building a image around them and withholding the truth for the sake of Marley's gain. Having a vilifying picture painted of them is actually something the Jewish people face. They were and still are used as a scapegoat to blame all the world's problems on them. If the history Marley created and the reason why they treat Eldians horribly is just because of convinience for them, it would make the allegory work much better. There is plenty of basis of Marley's story being a complete lie, the biggest being that the only real reason they want to attack Paradis is resources. As it is now, it's pretty shaky, but I feel like that kind of twist is almost obvious because it fits really perfectly with the parallel it's going for.
Also, I've seen people say that it came out Isayama is a Nanking denier (which is why this discussion likely cropped up again), but unlike the other claims, I haven't found any source for that claim looking around. Do you guys have a source on that?
There is a reading of the story that the eldians aren't a Jewish proxy, but a Japanese one. A great nation with a strong potential, wrongfully contained to an island after fabricated misdeeds of the past. And now the villains main goals is to make their youth incapable of breeding. If I that don't care about nationalism can see that reading, then someone who is actually looking for this kind of message will to.
I dunno, maybe the eldians have more Jewish codifiers that those I can see.
Ah, so it's just a reading, not Isayama saying anything awful again?
That's the only thing I've seen on this topic, too, but I feel like the Star of David-like symbol on the armbands kind of is as blatant as you can get. It's not very subtle about that. Hizuru is the Japan of the AoT world - portrayed as greedy, but having to be so for the sake of survival. Which is another convo to have.
All of this is my interpretation, of course. Discussing social issues is tough to me because I feel like there is a factual element to them (like how race and gender works according to existing knowledge, research and science), while most other discussion is subjective and depends almost entirely on interpretation.
Maybe (maybe?!) there is also a reading where the Eldians are Japanese, and the ones who don't live on the island are modeled after how Japanese-Americans had to live during/after the war. Not Jewish-level racism, but you can't deny it when you put all of them in camps.
The imagery is a little too specific for me for it to be anything else but a Jewish parallel and the second comparison down the list for me would be the Middle East because Paradis is being attacked for it's resources.
Hell, you could even see it as an actual German parallel. Germany had an empire in the past and the story has a Germany-inspired setting.
Still, it's very specific to how the Jewish people were treated - they're even basically human test subjects.
Why are people saying that Levi is out? Did I miss something in the chapter?
The imagery is a little too specific for me for it to be anything else but a Jewish parallel and the second comparison down the list for me would be the Middle East because Paradis is being attacked for it's resources.
Hell, you could even see it as an actual German parallel. Germany had an empire in the past and the story has a Germany-inspired setting.
Still, it's very specific to how the Jewish people were treated - they're even basically human test subjects.
It may be a reference or allegory but depicting the suffering of others doesnt mean advocating for it in story at least. Oda isnt racist because fishmen are mistreated and some people see them as a allegory to the african americans
Why are people saying that Levi is out? Did I miss something in the chapter?
That's what I'm wondering. He got blown away, but I didn't see anything that said "death".
That's what I'm wondering. He got blown away, but I didn't see anything that said "death".
Well, he doesn't have to die to be "out"
That's what I'm wondering. He got blown away, but I didn't see anything that said "death".
To me it looks like he activated the 3D gear and escaped the explosion
Levi's definitely alive but it looked like he's lost a part of his body– arm, leg, you name it.
@Long:
It may be a reference or allegory but depicting the suffering of others doesnt mean advocating for it in story at least. Oda isnt racist because fishmen are mistreated and some people see them as a allegory to the african americans
Yes, this is what I'm saying, too, but I was talking about the Jewish similarity here and how I think the story is mainly going for that and not other nations/races.
OP actually has the same problem as AoT and many other stories that have fantasy racism in them: it makes the races different beyond just appearance - the fishmen are physically stronger and the Eldians can turn into giant monsters. Arlong even uses it as a justification for wanting the fishmen's superiority. So the whole allegory has this questionable part to it.
In a general sense, they're clearly not supporting the racism, which I think a lot of people read falsely about AoT. Isayama said those terrible things, but his story still portrays it (the racism) negatively.
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