Everytime I hear Stairway to Heaven I'm reminded of this one guy who argued 10 years ago on this here forum that it would be the perfect song for a One Piece opening.
Kingdom Hearts 3
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How many confirmed Xehanorts do we have? Was Aqua trully norted, or she just fell to darkness?
With the assumption that Master counts as one of the thirteen:
I Master Xehanort
II Young Xehanort
III Xigbar
IV Xemnas
V "Ansem"
VI Vanitas
VII Marluxia
VIII Larxene
IX Saix
X Luxord
XI Demyx
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Well, the Org XIII project was a success then, most of their numbers were norted in the end, but it is annoying that if they were to be just rehashes then why keep them cloaked in the great council of "let's nort Sora".
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Everytime I hear Stairway to Heaven I'm reminded of this one guy who argued 10 years ago on this here forum that it would be the perfect song for a One Piece opening.
Dude, I have to meet this guy.
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I hope Sora gets 'Norted at some point, just so the last two major character/clone-overview sheets can be linked. Xehanort has already absorbed Riku and Kairis sheets into his own through Riku-replica/"Ansem" and Xion, may as well go the whole hog.
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@Daz:
I hope Sora gets 'Norted at some point, just so the last two major character/clone-overview sheets can be linked. Xehanort has already absorbed Riku and Kairis sheets into his own through Riku-replica/"Ansem" and Xion, may as well go the whole hog.
Is that necessary when Vanitas exists?
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Of course, for it to have the proper PARALELS we need every permutation possible of Xehanort and Sora in every team.
I bet young Xehanort will become good, and cause TIMETRAVEL SHENANIGANS.
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@Count:
Is that necessary when Vanitas exists?
Oh yeah, you're right! I forgot about that. Though in my defense, Vanitas being "Evil Sora" is a complete nonfactor beyond shock value.
Then i guess I want Aqua and Kairi to be related for good measure, for Xehanort to be Soras ancestor and/or alternate self, and for some sort of Sora/Xehanort/Kairi/Aqua/Riku entity to manifest. I want to see just how much lore-autocannibalism we can reach here.
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@Count:
Is that necessary when Vanitas exists?
Sora VA still wants to play a villain.
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@Cyan:
"Scala ad caelum" is Latin for "ladder to heaven", but knowing Nomura it's probably meant to be interpreted as "stairway to heaven".
The final vessel of Xehanort will be Jimmy Page.
Unlike english, latim (and other romance languages) has only one word for both Ladder and Stairway.
Most of the time the distinction is made by using the plural. Scala = Ladder, Scalas = Stairway. It's bizarre to use the terms interchangeably sometimes but not unheard of.
I'd classify this one as Close Enough.Anyway, fuck those leaks, man. I even kinda regret watching this latest trailer.
I want to jump into this game knowing as little as possible and discover cool shit, that's the way I played all the KH games.
I'll be ignoring every future (and past/present) footage and info on the game until I get it in my damned hands. -
So no Marvel/Star Wars :'(
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So no Marvel/Star Wars :'(
not in KH3 at least. not sure about Marvel, Star Wars however is a tad complicated.
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The closest Marvel is getting is Big Hero 6.
Star Wars almost got a world (based off of Clone Wars) for a mobile game that ultimately got cancelled early in development.
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not in KH3 at least. not sure about Marvel, Star Wars however is a tad complicated.
Still it would be awesome to get a KeyBlade vs Lightsaber battle lol
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Looks like this game may have less worlds then Kingdom Hearts 2
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That's fine. I prefer quality over quantity and only need the same amount of worlds as Kingdom Hearts I.
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^ Already posted way back when it was released.
http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=41421&page=49&p=3930057&viewfull=1#post3930057 -
^ Already posted way back when it was released.
http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=41421&page=49&p=3930057&viewfull=1#post3930057My B man
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Was watching let’s plays and forgot one of the things Jack wanted was to wield ackeyblade. Wonder ifhe’ll Get his wish.
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Leaks upon leaks are out from Final boss, to ending, secret reports, whats next, etc.
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I wonder if a KH "the story so far" is planed for the switch. Even if that means letting him in smash, I ate the whole leaks and kinda feel like going trhoug DDD or back to Birth by sleep.
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I mean, I'd like that but I won't hold my breath. Story So Far still seems like an excellent investment either way.
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GX is livestreaming first two hours
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Ending spoilers:
! So Xehanort gives up pretty easily compared to Mansex in 2, just a chit chat with Eraqus and he hands over to Sora the X- Blade. But he killed Kairi before so that he could get the final sword, but then Sora says he wants to go on a journey to find her, and she is kinda back again.
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I was thinking about how non-excited I am for this finale, and I think its partly due to how repetitve everything feels. I have fought and beaten literally every single one of these villains before - some even several times… but what really struck me was the realization that the series hasn't created a character that wasn't intimately tied to pre-existing characters since Aqua. And even in KH2, the only non-doppelganger characters were flunkies to the villain. The series has been mostly iterating on the first games cast for more than a decade.
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Replacing the iconic disney villains with j-pop stars and their 120 year old manager sucked the fun out for me. Even if I grew to.. (like? nah, not-despise? nah) tolerate most of them.
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Ending spoilers:
! So Xehanort gives up pretty easily compared to Mansex in 2, just a chit chat with Eraqus and he hands over to Sora the X- Blade. But he killed Kairi before so that he could get the final sword, but then Sora says he wants to go on a journey to find her, and she is kinda back again.
! And then Thanos kill Sora.
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Replacing the iconic disney villains with j-pop stars and their 120 year old manager sucked the fun out for me. Even if I grew to.. (like? nah, not-despise? nah) tolerate most of them.
it's what I miss about the very first game.
The Disney Villains were classic but also focused and a very real danger to the heroes, Malificent's circle of evil that gradually descended in size as you traveled, culminating in this climatic battle against her dragon form - only to get "Ansem" as the final threat.
After that they've kinda just been hanging on the side. I like the Organization but they don't have a candle to these classic baddies, and having a new one where 70% of them are just reskinned Xehanort isn't very exciting.
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So in this game we are getting: Disney villains and worlds spolers:
! Hades or a titan (for the 4-6th time)
Davey Jones
Count weasel? Hans? He's not a fighter, so a random heartless of ice
Mother Gothel? She's not a fighter, so a random heartless of forest
The nanomachines (son)? The masked guy?
Randal? Spider boss?
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Replacing the iconic disney villains with j-pop stars and their 120 year old manager sucked the fun out for me. Even if I grew to.. (like? nah, not-despise? nah) tolerate most of them.
The premise of KH1 seems ridiculously straightforward in hinsight. Get Princess–>Kingdom hearts-->Infinite Darkness! (I think that was it?), With princess abductions and the turning of Riku serving to escalate the tension. And beyond that, theres a cabal of Disney baddies front and centre; Even if there was no grand plan, you'd instinctively wanna go punch Jafar in the face, because he's Jafar.
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Ending Spoilers:
! - Sora saves Aqua (who sorta jobbs throughout the game)
- Aqua fights Vanitas and beaten in a cut scene
- Sora revives Ven and him and Aqua knocks out Vanitas
- Sora, Riku, Micky, Donal Goofy, Kairi, Axel, Aqua and Ven head for the Keyblade graveyard
- Terra appears Ven belives its the real one but Aqua walks up and knows its Terranort
- Terranort stomps Ven and Axel and blocks Sora, proceded to deafeta them all and Darkness wipes out the light (aqua just stands there and the rest of the cast just gives up)
- Sora ends up in the Final World with the cat thing from Chi that is close to Ven, through here spamming the power of Waking and stuff he reverses time and saves his friends with the help of Ephemer to stop the darkness spawn thing.
! - Goes back in time to restart the fight with Terranort though this time Lingering Will is here and knocks Terranort back and procedds to fight him away from the cast.
- 1000 Heartless & Nobody battle begins, the cast nearly gives up again but is saved by Yen Sid saying he will handle this as the rest head off to stop Master Xehanort, Goofy and Donald stay behind to back up the wizard.
! - Vexen and Demyx betrayed the 13 darknesses and are responsible for why Roxas and Xion are there.
- Sora and Mickey fight off Luxford, the knives chick, scythe guy and someone else.
- Sora and Riku fight Replica Riku defeat it and plan to use the replica body to restore Namine
- Sora and Riku fight Xigbar, defeated he says he has the power to weild No Name with Sora and Riku questioning unlike the other villains Xigbar doesn't dissolve to darkness he just dissapears falling over like a cliff
! - Sora, Ven and Aqua are fighting Vanitas, defeated and he disolves to darkness afterwards terranort drops in.
- Terranort using darkness chains tie up our heroes who are unable to free themselves and he beats and swings around Aqau and Ven before he slams them into the ground finishing them…
- Guardian who is Terra's heartless comes out and saves his friends breaking the chains and swiches hearts back, restoring Terra to his original body.
- Terra and Aqua reunite there a ship moment where Aqua questions if it is Terra and he says yes thanking Aqua for always lighting his way back, Ven wakes up with Terra and him saying they kept there promise and the three hug it out.
! - Kairi and Axel are fighting Saix, Sora comes in but gets knocked back by Saix after fighting him with Axel and Kairi, Axel is getting beat up by Xemnas but is saved by Xion who is still a bit evil but wants Axel alive.
- Sora breaks Xion control away and Axel remembers Xion, before Xemnas strikes down Xion Roxas comes in to save the day.
- Before he goes Xemnas grabs and kidnaps Kairi, Saix now in berserk sate is deafetd by Sora, Roxas and Xion.
- Axel breaks through to Saix there will be a happy reunion later between the two and he dissolves and a happy reunion between the 356/2 days cast and hug as Sora heads off to confront the master.
! - Sora, Riku and Micky fight Ansem, Xemnas and Young Xehanort and defeat them.
- Master Xehanort needs one more Darkness or something and brings out the kidnapped Kairi, basically fringing her.
- Master Xehanort gets the X-Blade and summons Kingdom Hearts corrupting it with Darkness with Kingdom Hearts under his control
! -Sora becomes Ichigo and is brought back up by Donald and Goofy who have brought the others, Micky and Riku have a plan using the other keyblade wielders to push Xehanort off this world, Sora says he will confront Xehanort hile the others deal with dark kingdom hearts
- Sora not alone again is joined by Goofy and Donald.
! - Sora, Donald and Goofy defeat the armored other Xehanorts and face off aganist the Master who merges with the armored forms darkness to form a living version of like the beast that represents No Name which is a goat thing
- The Goatnort fight takes place in many areas of Scala and is Doctor Strange like, leaving Scala pretty destroyed but Xehanort still stands and heads to the highest point.
- The three confront the master, who now busts out the X-Blade.
- Half way to the fight Xehanort creates a floating magical platform that takes the fight to the sky, under the dark sky Kingdom Hearts is revealed serving as a back drop.
! - Sora tries to use a keyblade beam to finish Xehanort but uses a shield to block it, now using the darkness he corrupts this Kingdom Hearts and does his own Keyblade Beam to Sora.
- Sora struggles to push it back, but is helped by Goofy and Donald to stop the Beam before they preform a Trinity Keyblade Beam finishing off Xehanort.
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! - Sora and co confront the defeated master, goes on a speial about he wanted to recreate the worlds using Kingdom Hearts where only light existed so no darkness could corrupt it or some shit.
- With the fight over the other Keyblade Wielders arrive, Terra confronts Master Xehanort not before another shipping moment between Aqau and Terra.
- Aqua tries to stop Terra grabbing his arm, the two stare at each other and eventually Aqua lets him go with Terra summoning the last of Eraquis within him to meet his friend.
- Eraquis says checkmate and we get a flashback to the past where Eraquis beated him in Chess and other redeming things for Xehanort, back to the present Xehanort gives Sora the X-Blade.
- Before they depart Eraquis apologizes to his students for his actions and what he put them through and they all hug, Eraquis tells Terra to watch over them (Not Aqua the master you guys)before he and Xehanort depart to the afterlife?
! - With the X-Blade and the others, Sora returns Kingdom Herats to light and returns all to the Keyblade graveyard
- Everyone is saved but Kairi, Riku proposes they will save her before Sora says he must do this alone, his journey started off with him losing her and now she is out there alone and Sora says he must fix it with the power of Waking.
! - Micky warns that the power of waking isn't meant for this and while he may save Kairi there no 100% that he will come back, Sora says he and Kairi will be backa nd Riku gives him his blessing.
! - Micky, Donald, Goofy and Yen Sid return to Disney Castle for a reunion with Minnie and Fireworks.- Terra, Aqua and Ven make a grave for Eraquis and Ven is reunited with the Cat thing from Union X
- Roxas, Axel and Xion are togheter, Hayner and those fucks come in with sea salt ice cream together as the watch the sunset on top of the tower, Isa comes in and sits next to Axel
- Ansem the Wise and the two sceintist Orginization Members put Namine into the Replica body and Riku comes by to pick her up for….
- A part on Destiny Island with everyone clebrating there victory (Everyone at the Graveyard plus the Twilight Town cast)
- But Sora and Kairi are together up on the tree holding hands and watching the sunset implying they are in a relationship (before the KY Graveyard they ate the fruit)
- Kairi Turns to Sora only to see him disapper just as Micky warned this is the consequence of waking, Sora isn't dead but trapped/lost in time.
! Secret Reports:
- Eraquis is a decensedent of the Original Keybalde weilders
- Ansem the Wise experimented on a girl that Axel and Isa remember seeing and seeing but can't remember her name (COuld be Ava)
- Luxu is alive and is using a body to watch over everything
! Epilouge:
- At the Keyblade Graveyard the four Foretellers minus Ava reunite with a black cloaked figure who has the Black Box and also wields No Name who called them here.
- Its Luxu who has been using Xigbar body and Xehanort as a sorta Scapegoat
- Luxu has completed his mission the others ask what mission and what happened to him but he says its a long story all the while Pete and Mal watch from afar.
- Ava isn't here becuase apparently she apparently completed her mission, again the others question what is this mission
- Luxu just laughs and looks at the Black Box
! - Flashback to young Eraquis and Xehanort, they start a new chess game.
- On Xehanorts side are chess pieces representing the Foretellers, Luxu and two other black pieces for 7 darknesses
- While all we see atm Eraquis lay down is the Light chess piece representing Sora
! - In the secret report written by Luxu, he says its time for the Master of Masters to return.
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That reads like a Bleach arc summary
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I mean that's basically the level of Kingdom Hearts' storytelling so…
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I think Kingdom Hearts story is much worse than Bleach, but I love it a lot more.
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Are there even any Final Fantasy characters in KH3?! It just ocurred to me I haven't seen any.
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Are there even any Final Fantasy characters in KH3?! It just ocurred to me I haven't seen any.
None .
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I'm actually excited for this KH3, I haven't played the in between versions are those worth playing before stsrting.this one when its released I remember I had almost best KH2 then my system got stolen smh
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Playing right now. Feels good.
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More than 12 years waiting… Kingdom Hearts III Deluxe Edition
And here my Kingdom Hearts collection!!
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Are there even any Final Fantasy characters in KH3?! It just ocurred to me I haven't seen any.
None .
no Cloud, Leon, Yuffie, Cid, Moogles, Aerith, and Tifa?
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Moogles are still shopkeepers.
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Cloud and Auron "show up".
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We talked about fighting iconic Disney villains being the main draw earlier, and looking at the final World List for KH3, the game seems like a total letdown in that regard. I mean I like Gothel and Hans as villains, but it hardly compares to KH1s all-star roster of Clayton, Jafar, Hades, ursula, Oogie Boogie, Hook and Maleficent…but theres still Shere Khan, Mad Madam Mim, the Sheriff of Nottingham, Cruella De Vil, PROFESSOR GODDAMN RATIGAN, McLeash, Yzma, and if it has to be more recent, long John Silver, Facilier, King Candy...give me a shot at beating them up with a giant key and I might buy a KH game, squenix.
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Boss spoilers:
! Yeah, you only fight out of disney characters:
The titans, this time in a free for all
Elsa's big snowman
Evil Baymax and the nanocloud
The Kraken for sure, maybe Davey Jones
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Loving the game, but these constant cutscenes are getting old.
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Loving the game, but these constant cutscenes are getting old.
Yeah, especially when they don't need to be as long or as many.
Mount Olympus was just ok and Corona was better but it went on longer than it should.