Only if urouge would be the leader of blackbeard's grand fleet. Because in the main crew he is way too similar to burgess.
Official Wano Thread
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@uniaka:
Only if urouge would be the leader of blackbeard's grand fleet. Because in the main crew he is way too similar to burgess.
I'm thinking Burgess will be ditched out somehow after failing his mission and getting beat by Sabo.
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@No:
Oh man, I know this is never going to happen, but imagine if Kidd had come up with some sort of sneaky, surefire way to defeat Shanks before Kaido dropped in on his alliance, and at the end of Wano, Blackbeard comes in and captures or offers a position of power to Kidd…
This could totally happen. I don't see Kidd randomly sitting around with his alliance: he must have come up with something. And since he's imprisoned, chances are his crew is dismantled, with only Killer and the fire-breathing guy to remain loyal. Him joining Blackbeard is a possibility.
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I'm thinking Burgess will be ditched out somehow after failing his mission and getting beat by Sabo.
I don't think he is that kind of leader.
He would just make fun of Burgess to upset him. -
Yeah, I doubt that Blackbeard would be as callous with his crew as with his hanger ons, unless needed.
Most villains in the story at least share some morality with Luffy, Arlong valued his crew, Doffy believed that he loved them as family (well, as his family anyways), Croc and Moriah had dreams that were reawoken, Lucci admired his leadership, and so forth.
With Blackbeard being his darkest reflection yet, and it already being personal, so there is no need to him to piss Luffy (or the audience) off by betraying or discarding his core crew.
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I'm thinking Burgess will be ditched out somehow after failing his mission and getting beat by Sabo.
He led them to the hideout of the revolutionaries. He's fine.
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Update on areas : Amigasa village, Flower capital and wastelands
Maybe there are too many colors …. don't hesitate to tell me if that makes it harder to comprehend.
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I think the Flower Capital may be based on the residence of the Ashikaga Shoguns, the Flower Palace in Kyoto:
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wait, Killer is a prisioner?
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wait, Killer is a prisioner?
Honestly I don't know. I will let him as unconfirmed for now.
It is true that he might have joined Kaido like the rest and become a headliner.What do you think ?
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I think that Kidd managed to let his crew escape
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Honestly I don't know. I will let him as unconfirmed for now.
It is true that he might have joined Kaido like the rest and become a headliner.What do you think ?
My guess is he's forced to work for Kaido to keep Kidd alive.
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I think most of Kidd's crew was executed or left after the crushing defeat, but Killer, Heat and Wire stayed and are working on a plan to save their captain.
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I think killer is hiding somewhere. He was shown to be loyal, powerful and smart. I don't see him like apoo and basil.
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I think killer is hiding somewhere. He was shown to be loyal, powerful and smart. I don't see him like apoo and basil.
I think this would be a good thing. Killer might even plan some kind of rescue thing.
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One thing I really hope to see in this arc is strawhats combination attack.
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@Big:
I think this would be a good thing. Killer might even plan some kind of rescue thing.
that's the subtext of what basil said basically, you follow or you hide.
we already know who followed and who lost. we still miss who's hiding, and killer is yet to be shown.
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One thing I really hope to see in this arc is strawhats combination attack.
For real ! I've been waiting for a combo move since the timeskip. We only had a somewhat combo attack against the Krakken, but it was barely satisfying. It's starting to get very repetitive with the 1v1 prepicked opponents for each SH member.
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Do you think Luffy will find the crew in the order in which they joined?
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How did this theory gain any traction when Nami is with Chopper and the rest? Not to mention he was just with them two chapters ago. This theory makes it seem as if we just got done with the Marineford arc lol
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A new adventure begins in the land of the Samurai
All Wano related discussion in here
Hello! Could we get a multi-poll "who is gonna join the alliance ? "
Kidd
Hawkins
Apoo
Drake
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Hello! Could we get a multi-poll "who is gonna join the alliance ? "
Kidd
Hawkins
Apoo
Drake
Maybe MoriaOf course you can
aaaaaaand done
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Ticked all of them.
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Not only I expect moria to show up and ally, but he will create nightmare luffy 2.0, this time with many samurais shadows, including ryuuuma( the guy that beat dragon before). And nightmare luffy with his sword will cut dragon skin kaidou. And I would place Ma D. Monk in the poll.
And apoo should at least stay on enemy side until he gets his music battle with brook.
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@uniaka:
Not only I expect moria to show up and ally, but he will create nightmare luffy 2.0, this time with many samurais shadows, including ryuuuma( the guy that beat dragon before). And nightmare luffy with his sword will cut dragon skin kaidou.
Moria can't get Ryuuma's shadow since he's dead.
I'm not sure Moria will have gathered power up shadows, but his zombie army might be able to counter Kaido fodder.
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Thanks Rob :wub:
I feel like Drake was not portrayed as a bad guy but damn do I want him to fight the strawhats.
Apoo is probably too afraid of Kaido to betray him.
Hawkins would be the worst fortune teller ever if he doesn't join. Unless he does foresee Luffy's victory but with something lie 1% chance XD -
Thanks Rob :wub:
I feel like Drake was not portrayed as a bad guy but damn do I want him to fight the strawhats.
Apoo is probably too afraid of Kaido to betray him.
Hawkins would be the worst fortune teller ever if he doesn't join. Unless he does foresee Luffy's victory but with something lie 1% chance XDnaw, and now that I come to think, Hawkins could drop a hint here about Luffy surviving the mess but unable to tell an actual victory for Luffy and just predicting 'a turbulent future in the NW after the events of Wano'
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X Drake is gonna be more complex than Kid's alliance I feel. He purposely sought Kaido out, and I'd hope it wouldn't be exactly like Bege's plot to take down a Yonko from within.
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They are obviously all gonna join the alliance. Moriah still needs to show up though
Law has probably established contact with XDrake sooner in the story. We know he attacked Kaido's turf 2 years ago, and joined its crew a year ago only. It leaves one entire year to plot against him
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Law's plan was to die with the strawhats at the hand of Doflamingo. He really had no reason to plan anything with Drake for the future.
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ye, but they been there for a while now, there's a possibility that Law already met either with Drake, Apoo or Killer and any of them are well aware or the rebellion that's going to blow any second.
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Law's plan was to die with the strawhats at the hand of Doflamingo. He really had no reason to plan anything with Drake for the future.
His plan was for Doffly to die from Kaido after taking out his smile factory. Dying was just a possibility.
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@Kaido:
X Drake is gonna be more complex than Kid's alliance I feel. He purposely sought Kaido out, and I'd hope it wouldn't be exactly like Bege's plot to take down a Yonko from within.
We still don't know his intentions.
His father was a pirate and died in front of him -> this would make someone not wanting to be a pirate
We joined the Marines after they rescued him from that island and made it to Rear Admiral -> one should have some strong motives to reach that position.
He later abandoned the marines to join a pirate crew and sail to the NW -> this contradicts his morals about pirates from the first statement, but Kizaru said that he could merely "wants to see how things are from the other side"
He joined Kaidou's crew on his own will, probably had a good chance because of his DF that completes Kaidou's all Zoan dream -> he made it to headliner and knows more or less what Kaidou is up to in Wano and his future plans
He captured Caribou -> there are chances that he knows about Poseidon.The likely scenario is that he still works for the WG but not like a true spy, somewhat like Doflamingo's relation with the WG. This are all assumptions. And does anybody know if he had the DF when he was Rear Admiral or after?
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I wonder if Drake sought out Kaido because of his military might? As in, he wants something from Kaido for his own purposes like to combat the WG directly. I dunno, he's a real wild card.
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Mabye Drake's end goal is to scout out Wano's forces for the marines.
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So if drake is like corazon, then Is Sengoku also behind it or another admiral?
If marines placed spy in Dodflamingo pirates and kaidou pirates, did they also place spy in the Big mom pirates or shanks pirates? In the blackbeard pirates case, aokiji counts as the spy. Maybe akainu vs aokiji was not competiting for FA position only, but the loser gets to infiltrate blackbeard.
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@uniaka:
did they also placed spy in the Big mom pirates or shanks pirates?
I think Stussy counts as the spy sent after Big Mom intel.
As for Shanks, it might be more difficult to infiltrate his crew, given its smaller dimensions. It'd be pretty much impossible–like infiltrating the SHs. But given that Shanks can all willy-nilly walk up to Marijoa and talk to the Gorosei, perhaps a spy in his circles is pointless.
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Official Wano Thread
I did not vote on the poll because I don't think there will be any other supernova or shichibukai who'll join the alliance.
I just wanted to share an idea that Nidai Kitetsu and Sandai Kitetsu were both forged from the Shodai Kitetsu.My reasons:
Fact 1. Tenguyama Hitetsu is keeping the Nidai Kitetsu in his posession (Theory: Could be because it was endorsed to him by his ancestors, for what reason, we don't know specifically yet and I really believe there's a specific reason aside from just an inheritance)
Fact 2. Tenguyama Hitetsu is waiting for someone in Wano (Theory: Most popular theory is that the person he's waiting for is the wielder of Sandai Kitetsu)
Fact 3. Tenguyama Hitetsu does not wish anybody to touch the Nidai Kitetsu (Theory: Most appropriate reason is because it is a widely known fact that the wielder dies from using the Kitetsu swords, but there might be specific instructions from his ancestors how to use the blade, who knows?)Now what would happen if the Sandai Kitetsu meets the Nidai Kitetsu along with Tenguyama Hitetsu(Swordsmith) and Roronoa Zoro (wielder of Nidai Kitetsu)? I can only think that with this event, the Shodai Kitetsu will be reforged using the Nidai and Sandai blades. Thus, Zoro getting a Supreme Grade Sword for the first time ever.
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i am not buying your theory, how come two sword reforge again to make it better, i think the possibility its get worse than before
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Official Wano Thread
I did not vote on the poll because I don't think there will be any other supernova or shichibukai who'll join the alliance.
I just wanted to share an idea that Nidai Kitetsu and Sandai Kitetsu were both forged from the Shodai Kitetsu.My reasons:
Fact 1. Tenguyama Hitetsu is keeping the Nidai Kitetsu in his posession (Theory: Could be because it was endorsed to him by his ancestors, for what reason, we don't know specifically yet and I really believe there's a specific reason aside from just an inheritance)
Fact 2. Tenguyama Hitetsu is waiting for someone in Wano (Theory: Most popular theory is that the person he's waiting for is the wielder of Sandai Kitetsu)
Fact 3. Tenguyama Hitetsu does not wish anybody to touch the Nidai Kitetsu (Theory: Most appropriate reason is because it is a widely known fact that the wielder dies from using the Kitetsu swords, but there might be specific instructions from his ancestors how to use the blade, who knows?)Now what would happen if the Sandai Kitetsu meets the Nidai Kitetsu along with Tenguyama Hitetsu(Swordsmith) and Roronoa Zoro (wielder of Nidai Kitetsu)? I can only think that with this event, the Shodai Kitetsu will be reforged using the Nidai and Sandai blades. Thus, Zoro getting a Supreme Grade Sword for the first time ever.
The Gandhi looking Gorosei wield Shodai Kitetsu most likely. The hilt looks same as Nidai and Sandai Kitetsu.
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I want this to be Sanji's outfit for the final fights of Wano:
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New location : okobore town
New characters : O-Kiku, O-Tsuru and Urashima.
Confirmed characters : Bepo, Shachi and Pingouin.
I will put Urashima in the shogunate retainers category for now cause he is obviously portrayed as a bad guy. But he might very well become a good guy for O-Kiku <3
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uhm, is staring to look messy, how could u not include Lizardosaurus?
I think we'll reach a point in this arc where Sanji's group will no longer be a thing.also I personally dont want Jack to come back, he will but I dont want him to.
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Sooner or later i think BM pirates will also make an appearance since the discussion on the dedenmushi between BM and Kaido settled with BM winning the spot to defeat MD Luffy. So i think there is a possibility for them to show face in this arc.
Also idk if X Drake is also on Wano (was there any panel specifying this?). He know he took part in the destruction of Amigasa Village but he was also on the Winter Island and captured Caribou after that i think. So he could be somewhere else for what we know.
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X Drake was seen reading the papers in Wano after Doflamingo's defeat. So, as far as we know, he's in Wano too
Wano probably has a winter area. I mean, these trees are definitely Wano trees
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X Drake was seen reading the papers in Wano after Doflamingo's defeat. So, as far as we know, he's in Wano too
Wano probably has a winter area. I mean, these trees are definitely Wano trees
https://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/793/11Yeah, about that link, what do you think is that big shadow behind the clouds? In the upper small panel we see a "similar" form that is somewhat taking shape. From the dialogue between the pirates it is unclear if they reffer to that think as Kaidou or it is an independet text bubble from the upper panels.
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Yeah, about that link, what do you think is that big shadow behind the clouds? In the upper small panel we see a "similar" form that is somewhat taking shape. From the dialogue between the pirates it is unclear if they reffer to that think as Kaidou or it is an independet text bubble from the upper panels.
Isn't a Japanese Castle?
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https://i.imgur.com/iOqynPa.jpg
I don't think it's a construction or something imobile. Don't have any theories on what it is besides just random speculations.
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For a while I have had the impression that Blackbeard would storm the Wano aftermath, once Kaido had been defeated. But with the Whitebeard pirates seemingly not participating, I find that development less likely.
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@K.:
For a while I have had the impression that Blackbeard would storm the Wano aftermath, once Kaido had been defeated. But with the Whitebeard pirates seemingly not participating, I find that development less likely.
I'd imagine he'd be more likely to attack Totto Land to get the Poneglyph, doubly so if Big Mom does show up at Wano.
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Isn't a Japanese Castle?
Yeah, a Oni (demon) castle often associated with Momotaro story.
http://okami.wikia.com/wiki/File:Oni_concept.jpg
@S.C.:
I'd imagine he'd be more likely to attack Totto Land to get the Poneglyph, doubly so if Big Mom does show up at Wano.
He may be after Kaido's fruit. BB already has strongest logia and paramecia type DF, so the strongest zoan may be his final power-up.