https://io9.gizmodo.com/doctor-who-has-found-the-13th-doctors-new-best-friends-1819755274
Looks like we will have three new companions for the new season. Also looks like it will be a ten episode season that will begin around September 2018
https://io9.gizmodo.com/doctor-who-has-found-the-13th-doctors-new-best-friends-1819755274
Looks like we will have three new companions for the new season. Also looks like it will be a ten episode season that will begin around September 2018
https://io9.gizmodo.com/doctor-who-has-found-the-13th-doctors-new-best-friends-1819755274
Looks like we will have three new companions for the new season. Also looks like it will be a ten episode season that will begin around September 2018
Sep 2018 is still so far away :(
Looks like we will have three new companions for the new season. Also looks like it will be a ten episode season that will begin around September 2018
That has never worked out for the show. Unless its some are travelling and some are back home, 3 companions have always overcrowded things. ANd that was back when the show was serials and an average story could go for 80-120 minutes.
Three companions is an exceptionally bad idea. Especially in a season where the knives will be out for it in certain quarters anyway.
It depends on how much they're shaking up the format. I thought three companions were fine in the Hartnell and Davison days most of the time, the only real problem is one or more of those companions were absolutely rubbish. There are plenty of shows that have a much larger cast that work it out just fine.
It depends on how much they're shaking up the format. I thought three companions were fine in the Hartnell and Davison days most of the time, the only real problem is one or more of those companions were absolutely rubbish. There are plenty of shows that have a much larger cast that work it out just fine.
In Hartnell it worked because he was an old man so they needed some young guy to do all the action stuff, and the girls were there to be educated and to scream, and he was much more playing the role of school teacher. Once the doctor became younger and more active that dynamic instantly stopped working.
And it really didn't work for Davison either. There were entire storylines where one character would sit in the Tardis, and they'd all argue with one another, and generally overcrowded things. (And Khameleon due to technical difficulties was left in a closet.)
Yes, other shows make it work with much larger casts but those shows don't generally have a 2000 year old know it all pulling most of the weight. The doctor is by default a major presence. If companions are fighting for screen time then they're all diminished and none of them can hold up against the lead. Also, other shows with large casts tend to have more episodes to play with per season. We're just getting 10 fifty minute episodes.
Smith's era nearly had three companions with Amy and Rory since River rotated in so often… but Rory was dead half the time and River even in her most heavy season was never in more than a few episodes at a time, and was only in about 10 episodes of Smith's 40.
In Hartnell it worked because he was an old man so they needed some young guy to do all the action stuff, and the girls were there to be educated and to scream, and he was much more playing the role of school teacher.
Barbara was not there to scream and be educated, she was a teacher and often was the one putting the Doctor in his place, and he seemed to respect her opinions a lot more than Ian!
But I digress, I am just in the mind set of wait and see, we really don't know if all three of those characters are going to be traveling, the older guy could be more like Wilf.
Barbara was not there to scream and be educated, she was a teacher and often was the one putting the Doctor in his place, and he seemed to respect her opinions a lot more than Ian!
I was paraphrasing the role that basically every female companion since has had, I wasn't really meaning to single out Barbara specifically.
Barbara was again the format of the early show. And when it had a much more education geared goal. Nowadays the doctor has the role of royal smart person at this point, and the action hero, so doesn't need sidekicks filling those roles. One companion to ask questions and get into trouble fills the need pretty well. Whenever they add more someone starts getting left in the Tardis. Or in Rory's case, dying every episode to upset Amy.
I was paraphrasing the role that basically every female companion since has had, I wasn't really meaning to single out Barbara specifically.
Barbara was again the format of the early show. And when it had a much more education geared goal. Nowadays the doctor has the role of royal smart person at this point, and the action hero, so doesn't need sidekicks filling those roles.
Right. And they can once again create a new format of the show that makes older ones obsolete.
It's kind of a weird outfit. But you know what? It's Doctor-ey.
Feels a bit like a mix between 2 and 5's outfit.
It's kind of a weird outfit. But you know what? It's Doctor-ey.
It is, though? It's weird in a way the doctor's have been, but it's by far the greatest outlier in terms of the doctor's outfits. The 9th's was a lot different, but my headcanon was that it was something a doctor might wear in the midst of a war. This seems strange for the sake of it and doesn't really look like she's the doctor, which is weird since it borrows from some of their costumes. Maybe it's the lack of a collar and it'll look better zipped up? I don't know, it's just a bit unformal. More like what a character in an anime set in England might wear than the Doctor.
It's comfortable and its a mishmash and its got a coat jacket. It's doctor-ey. 4 had a giant scarf, 5 had a piece of celery, 6 had a rainbow and 9 was just a t-shirt in a leather jacket. The pants are comfey like what 1 and 2 had. Practical shoes.
It's a casual shot. The actual shirt and pants will probably change between episodes. And its the first time he's been a woman, I'd hope they wouldn't just stuff her in a suit and tie.
9 is the best comparison, for sure, but he doesn't look like a child (maybe child is a horrible word to use. She reminds me more of a Jojo's character than from Doctor Who, though, which maybe isn't a bad thing, lol). I hope it looks much better with a little time to get used to it, but not feeling it at the moment.
I really hope she thrives in the role. I'm excited to see what a new showrunner can do with the series. I remember how distinctly different Moffats first season felt like. I hope chibnall will be the same and we can get something distinct from him. RTD never wrote a single episode for Moffats era, why? I hope this doesn't mean that Moffat won't write one or two episodes for the new doctor. He's good at one off episodes and it would be interesting to see how he'd handle the new doctor.
I love Capaldi but unforutnately his tenure coincided with my waning interest and love for the series. I hope Whittaker can ignite that interest for me. I want to love Doctor Who again god damnit.
Comparisons to old pieces. In particular noting 11 also has suspenders and boots, 4's scarf is incorporated into the shirt, and the jacket is like a 10 length version of 7, all while wearing 2's pants.
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2017-11-09/doctor-who-jodie-whittaker-costume-outfit/
And there's already fanart!
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/11/09/fans-pros-draw-13th-doctor/
Mork was the first thing I thought of. :)
After thinking about it for the day and looking at the fan art, I think they have chosen something very iconic and appropriate. Only thing I'm not quite sure about is the pants.
That was always my issue with the Fifth doctor too XD
She'd look about 10 times better if the coat had proper collar support. The fact it doesn't rise to build her neck is jarring, so much so the fan-arts have tweaked it to look more like Sherlock's coat.
It's ugly as sin and lazy to boot. At least the Old Who Doctors' weird get ups had personality like the people who chose the costumes had fun mixing and matching weird colorful designs. This just looks like a cynical attempt to mimic their looks with none of the fun or joy.
I personally would have liked some kind of 80's leather jacket like 9 for her.
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She'd look about 10 times better if the coat had proper collar support. The fact it doesn't rise to build her neck is jarring, so much so the fan-arts have tweaked it to look more like Sherlock's coat.
Well, if her reveal is anything to go by, it might be a built in hoodie rather than a collar.
As someone who loved the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's attires for being larger than life and full of personality and hating the new who doctor's clothes for being bland and generic, I approve of these duds.
Shada is being released on DVD/BD on December the 4th. The non-filmed scenes will be animated by the team responsible for Power of the Daleks last year. Impressions seem fairly good. Baker & Ward voiced their parts, which is cool.
We can always write off the animated bits as a side effect of the events of the Five Doctors.
Despite the cheap animation, the Power of the Daleks reconstruction actually did a good job of capturing the chilling creepiness of the story, so…yeah, I'm game for this.
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Jodie Whittaker’s Doctor Costume revealed. & the first thing I think of is Steve Urkel.
That outfit is gonna take some getting used to.
In case people haven't seen this preview/clip from the Christmas special
There was a time not to long ago, when I would have been excited for this. Now its just…..Meh.
The Doctor Who Christmas special was nice, but I cannot for the life of me understand what the point of that whole plot was.
Oh well. Bring on Jodie Whitaker!
Well, that was a nice sendoff to a run.
! A nice sort of happy ending, and a Christmas tie in. An "everyone lives" sort of thing but not. Sort of goes back to Moffatt's first story, The Doctor Dances.
! Was not expecting the Clara cameo at all. But I suppose the previous runs have also gotten such cameos, so maybe I should have expected it.
! I kind of figured out that the soldier would be related to the Brigadier. Based on nothing in the episode, but just sort of the meta of the show and the way the guy looked. I also figured this out months ago when we got the first previews.
! And Doctor, you really need to stop regenerating in the Tardis. It doesn't seem to go well. I know that they want an excuse to redo the new set for a new showrunner but this is exactly what 10 did to 11!
! I wish wish really really wish there could have been some way to not have the regenning into a woman spoiled. Man, if they'd managed to keep a cap on that. They never try and they never will, but still.
So long Capaldi. You were a very good Doctor. You weren't my doctor (I think that's going to be Smith for some time) but you were very good.
Capaldi was a potentially fantastic Doctor who was never given a single good piece of material to work with. Here's hoping the fresh direction and doctor will put a shot in the arm back into this series.
@TLC:
Capaldi was a potentially fantastic Doctor who was never given a single good piece of material to work with. Here's hoping the fresh direction and doctor will put a shot in the arm back into this series.
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He had plenty of really solid episodes. And a lot of good moments in the middling episodes. He also had a couple really terrible episodes like Kill the Moon and the Forest episode.
But that's basically the ratio for every doctor and almost every season. 2 or 3 great eps, a 2 or 3 terrible ones, and 7 or 8 okay but ordinary eps. There hasn't been any season in the history of the show that was all good episodes except maybe a 6 story middle Tom Baker season.
The same season that gave us Blink and Family of Blood also had Daleks in Manhattan two parter.
The first season back that had the Empty Child/Doctor Dances also had three episodes focused on farting aliens. (ANd Rose in general but my hating her is personal.)
Go back to the old show and we get one of the best episodes of the franchise, the Caves of Androzani where the fifth doctor dies, immediately followed by Twin Dillema, still considered the worst episode in the entire franchise 33 years later.
It's ALWAYS a mixed bag with this franchise. I don't know why that's the case when other franchises manage consistent seasons, but it is.
None of those hold a candle to the really fantastic episodes from previous seasons. I wish Capaldi got one. Eccleston was in for one season and he got the Doctor Dances and Dalek off the top of my head. Episodes I still remember vividly, I only saw the episodes you mentioned a season or two ago and I barely remember them. It's not even that they were bad, just mediocre and forgettable.
Even more so than the quality of the writing Capaldi was in, I feel he was trying to tug the Doctor's character into a new direction, a darker, more cynical Doctor but Moffat was too stubborn to let him taint his image of the perfect, flawless super genius doctor.
I really feel bad for Capaldi. He could have made something really special and memorable. Instead all he could give was adequate. And then there was that one episode where he had to run away from eye gunk…
Well yeah, a show 10 years in is going to be less memorable and fresh to you than it is at the start. But like I said, for all the Ecclestron got those good episodes, he also had THREE EPISODES OF FARTING ALIENS and a whole episode based on parodying The Weakest Link with the "Anne Droid". (That aged well.)
Tennant's first season had Love and Monsters, and Fear Her, (two of the worst episodes of the series) back to back and also had The Idiot's Lantern and that werewolf episode. Mostly weak episodes but that episode also had School Reunion and Girl in the Fireplace which were good.
It's ALWAYS a mixed bag. And its why its such a hard show to get new viewers into, because you always have to say "start here with these good episodes but be warned there's some terrible ones mixed in." You almost always have to just do a laundry list and pick out like 8 good episodes from six different seasons.
Yes, Mofatt was clearly ready to leave the show a couple years ago and had been repeating himself some, but its not like he was the only writer.
You've been having serious issues with the show since early on in the Smith run, so its not anything on Capaldi's string of episodes. I think its more you than the show.
Well, that wasn't a bad sendoff, but man did they drag out his final moments…
Just watched the regeneration scene and one minor touch that struck me was the ring falling off the Doctor's finger. While it's probably in part to signify River, what struck me was that when the First Doctor regenerated, Ben tried to make him wear a ring the Doctor favored only for it to not for the Second Doctor's finger.
Also, could we please get one regeneration in New Who without*the TARDIS getting damaged and/or crashing immediately after?
Just watched the regeneration scene and one minor touch that struck me was the ring falling off the Doctor's finger. While it's probably in part to signify River, what struck me was that when the First Doctor regenerated, Ben tried to make him wear a ring the Doctor favored only for it to not for the Second Doctor's finger.
Also similar to 4 losing the scarf, and 11 removing the bow tie, I think. It wasn't a super iconic thing Capaldi had, but it was a thing.
Also, could we please get one regeneration in New Who without*the TARDIS getting damaged and/or crashing immediately after?
But that's what gives you a convenient excuse to redesign the set!
Well, I guess the set stayed between Smith and Capaldi, but mostly because they'd just redesigned it like 6 episodes earlier.
Well, that wasn't a bad sendoff, but man did they drag out his final moments…
Do you remember the 10th Doctor's farewell? The Parade of Death was like 20 minutes of his final episode.
I was surprised that this episode was relatively reigned-in (Christmas pun intended? Sure, why not…), as compared to the cramped and bombastic flair that was the Time of the Doctor. Although I did like TotD, so… Guilty pleasure.
Plot was kinda meh, and instead it was traded off for a character focus on Capaldi's tenure and a little bit of the 1st Doc., and I like that.
! The Doctor expressing his tiredness of being through so many battles, which is even more interesting as he consciously expressed his dislike for soldiers in Season 8, yet he ended up on the frontline quite a bit (World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls). And having 1 tag along with him helped to show just how far he's come from the early days when he set off.
! I thought Bradley was great as the 1st Doctor, although maybe a bit unnecessary? I'm going to rewatch and think on it some more, but I certainly am not complaining about the opportunity to include him in a NewWho episode. Although, uh, the sexist comments were humorous whenever 12 had to correct him, and they made it clear that his comments were outdated and showing what that perception was at the time, but I felt they kinda went overboard with a joke or two too much. Although it's even more humorous considering 12 regenerates into Whittaker. Haha, almost, almost like 12 regenerated into a woman to spite 1.
! As for Whittaker, I simply loved her expression as it went from shock to joy. And wow, what a cliffhanger corner to write yourself into, Chibnall.
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I'm assuming you meant Heaven Sent (the 50 minute Capaldi monologue ep) instead of Hell Bent? Personally I thought Heaven Sent was much better than Bent.
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Even more so than the quality of the writing Capaldi was in, I feel he was trying to tug the Doctor's character into a new direction, a darker, more cynical Doctor but Moffat was too stubborn to let him taint his image of the perfect, flawless super genius doctor.
I think this is an interesting point that we can't really say is for certain? Capaldi's definitely had some influence on his Doctor. He had a theory on the Doctor's "name", and it was nearly repeated line-by-line in the last episode.
Plus, if there was interference, who's to say the BBC isn't guilty? Supposedly they're the reason the War Doctor in the audios is essentially just another incarnation of the Doctor, who at his worst, had to make tough "Trolley Problem" decisions. And isn't as merciless as DotD and Moffat made him out to be.
I really feel bad for Capaldi. He could have made something really special and memorable. Instead all he could give was adequate. And then there was that one episode where he had to run away from eye gunk…
You know it's a bad episode when everyone in the fandom, a fandom where no one agrees on anything, agrees that it's a bad episode.
@TLC:
None of those hold a candle to the really fantastic episodes from previous seasons. I wish Capaldi got one. Eccleston was in for one season and he got the Doctor Dances and Dalek off the top of my head. Episodes I still remember vividly, I only saw the episodes you mentioned a season or two ago and I barely remember them. It's not even that they were bad, just mediocre and forgettable.
Really? I found those to be really great, even though I know you have your issues with DW, I'd have a hard time saying Capaldi didn't have any "fantastic" episodes.
I think it's like Robby's said a couple times by now, but uh… I just don't think Doctor Who is going to ever be whatever standard you keep holding it to.
Unless my memory's off, I haven't seen you enjoy anything on the show for the last few seasons, and I'm puzzled that you're still following it if you're truly unhappy with it. Don't get me wrong, the show definitely has some lows and I can definitely agree on many of them (Forest of the Night, most of Gatiss's episodes, etc.).
Maybe you just keep watching the episodes with a critical eye, rather than watching them and then analyzing them? I dunno. I like to think there's something there you can enjoy and feel bad that you've been disappointed for so long. :/
Do you remember the 10th Doctor's farewell? The Parade of Death was like 20 minutes of his final episode.
Yes, I do remember that. My main hope going into this special was that they wouldn't pull another End of Time on us. I will admit, this wasn't as extreme as that… but it was still a bit much. That said, at least Capaldi didn't go out whining about how he "didn't want to go", which was the main thing I really wanted them to avoid.
It was an OK episode. I wasn't a fan of them browbeating the "first doctor is a sexist old coot" joke. Yeah, the "smack on the bottom" all by itself would have been funny because it's an actual thing that he said, but I don't think they did the show or Hartnell's character any favors. It was a different time but I certainly didn't get that vibe off him from watching the old episodes.
Yeah, that was a bit cringe. Should have left it with the smacking ref.
Overall it was ok. No Carol or even Invasion, but better then most of the christmas specials.
So Doctor who…
I think my biggest problem with Doctor who is how great they made him be in the most recent seasons (a Moffat thing from what I understand?).
It works for certain stories and shows how important the Doctor came to be with all his travel but I think it has to truly be abused recently. I prefer when the doctor feels threaten and angry at the master or the Daleks or Cyberman or even some other important threat than him simply dismissing them as jokes and needing no effort to defeat.
Similarly I don't like how the Timelords also became cheerleaders of the Doctor and are simply in awe in face of him. I prefer him as an actual part of the race where they can punish and threathen and talk to him.
It also bothered me when River was supposed to kill him and so many stars where going cold or dark. It would work well if we saw earth mourning him or we had a coalition of planets he helped/savedbeing the one coming to his help but they seemed to portray it as if the whole universe would stop without him.
I believe the doctor works better as an important traveller from a noble race of the universe having touch the lives of many people and civilization but not as the godly untouchable entity who everyone is beneath of and without who the universe would stop to work.
About the Doctor not wanting to regenerate I think it worked well in 2 instances but the fact that they were 2 and so close made it redundant. It made sense as the 10th who was his most human one and fearing his death and having to change. And it also make sense for the 13th who is past his natural lifespan and has live a long long life. But with the 2 so close it feels to close.
I think the 10th works well in the Doctor lore. He is not the most Doctor-y but it makes sense that such a fan of the human nature would have had one incarnation that was that human.
I really have a problem with the doctor not having "killed" both Daleks and Timelords. It would have been easy for the timelords to have done the froze in the moment thing as a way to escape their doom by themselves. That part of darkeness is a interesting part of the doctor and having to make such a massive sacrifice to protect the rest of the universe was one of the most interesting things about the war and how far it gone. It also gave an interesting prism to see the different incarnation of the doctor after that. They should have had the 3 pressing the button as way to have 11th move passed the choice he had to make back then.
This christmas special was nice. It showed the evolution of the Doctor over the years and I think there was only 2 jokes that went to far(especially the one with the woman's ass) the rest was mostly a man of his time and wasn't done with malice.
The doctor being an overpowered god started with Davies. Had him hauling around planets and blowing up entire Dalek armadas in the millions and got to the point where he would punish any enemies he had and by the end was trying to break time to suit his own whims.
Moffatt continued that trend and had River be his biggest fangirl… but its not a problem Moffatt started.
He did try and course correct eventually with 11 by having him go into hiding and be smaller again, but that only lasted a few episodes and it didn't really settle in.
New Doctor Who logo revealed
http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2018/02/bbc-america-reveals-new-doctor-who-logo
I like it. It's extremely basic, but it looks classy.
Yeah, it seems like they're taking everything they can in a very different direction from what it was, which is interesting.
Teaser for series 11. Or maybe it's a food commercial.
So The Muppets did a live show in the UK recently in which they spoofed Doctor Who.
Its not really a spoof when they actually get the actual Doctor. They also got the fifth for the next night… though he was using the same script that was clearly written with Tennant in mind.
Also, Rainbow Connection with Tennant.