Now she's riding on Prometheus. So what is stopping from jimbe or Nami using water to knock her into the ocean at this point. We've already seen jimbe use it effectively against Prometheus twice.
Chapter 890: Big Mom on Top of the Ship
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Now she's riding on Prometheus. So what is stopping from jimbe or Nami using water to knock her into the ocean at this point. We've already seen jimbe use it effectively against Prometheus twice.
What is stopping BM from doing another tidal wave and sinking the ship ?
The SH got lucky that hours gone and she think the cake on the ship now.
Her thinking the cake on the ship is the only thing that fully save sunny . -
What is stopping BM from doing another tidal wave and sinking the ship ?
The SH lucky that got hours gone and she think the cake on the ship now.
Her thinking the cake on the ship is the only thing that fully save sunny .Another tidal wave = another green room for jimbe. Everything she's sent there way has failed since the chase began. And she tried destroying the ship but they stopped her.
Anyways promotheus being fire is a clear disadvantage for big mom to continue chasing. It would require PIS from the strawhats to not be able to deal with it.
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Nami isn't going to keep Zeus she's only going to have him temporarily, he will probably go back to Big Mom when the whole thing is over. I still hate how Oda is treating Zeus, really thought that Oda could redeem him but eh I guess not.
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It seems Big Mom still has her durability, but it's possible that because of her skinny nature her she lost a bit of her durability but not to the point where she can get injured.
It would explain how she's more balanced with the other Yonko. Her hunger is a liability and if you're strong enough to fight her for hours you have a chance of beating her.
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TBH awesome chapter and Sanji is still stronger than Jimbei.
Jimbei pushes a STARVING Big Mom and she trips. Legit gets up next panel and doesnt give the hit a second thought.
Jimbei uses his strongest haki and gets sliced/thrown into the seaSanji and Luffy went up against a FULL POWER Big Mom haki clad punch that left Capone incapacitated and SANJI is the one leaving without any scars. He is even CARRYING Luffy to safety because Luffy is ko
Sanji > Jimbei
IMO
Luffy > Sanji = Zoro
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Another tidal wave = another green room for jimbe. Everything she's sent there way has failed since the chase began. And she tried destroying the ship but they stopped her.
Anyways promotheus being fire is a clear disadvantage for big mom to continue chasing. It would require PIS from the strawhats to not be able to deal with it.
There is a difference between trying to sink the ship and destroying in a way to look for something .
BM is not looking to sink sunny which is much easier than what she doing now .
Also another green room can't save them since she thought there were dead after it which allow them to get away .
She would make sure they dead this time or at least i hope so . -
Damn impressive showing from the straw hats. Oda's been carefully building up to a moment like this. Brook's abilities with souls and handling of the homies before Big Mom showed up and Nami's initial abuse of Zeus was enough for me to believe in their parts of this. As for the Jinbe strike, he is supposed to be strong, but I can only buy it if it's established in a later chapter that skinny Mama is much weaker.
Remember two years ago, Jinbei held back one of akainu's punch for some time.
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Well, now Jinbe can fit in the door.
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Another tidal wave = another green room for jimbe.
Can Jinbe even go to the Green Room with the Sunny in that state?
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Now that Big Mom is clearly not herself anymore, I wonder if RogersBase theory would come true about Vinsmokes vs. Homies.
Ichiji Sparking Red vs. Prometheus
Niji Electric Blue vs. Zeus
Yonji Winch Green vs. NapoleonAnyhow, I just want to see Jinbe vs. Smoothie
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So I love Brooke n all,
But this whole Brooke MVP thing is overplayed. He did do a great thing this chapter, but I really think Nami shines through more (in this arc and chapter)
In this chapter Nami yells at a Yonko which is just titanium woman of her to do considering her pre time skip freak outs.
She also was the only one to actually harm Big Mom (where as Brooke never could hurt her at all)
In fact, Nami is the only SH to harm a Yonko period.Arc-wise, she has had Luffy's back against a commander, controlled the homies of the forest, and stolen a yonko's pet. The list goes on.
And even with all this said and done. I still think by the end Sanji will prove to be the MVP of the arc although he hasnt gotten a tenth of the screen time the others have
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like i said in the spoiler thread, mama is fighting enemies who have advantages against her. brook is immune to lightning and his attacks are aoul based, nami can drain zeus of his power, jinbe can shower promotheus with water, etc. if it was robin instead of nami, usopp/franky instead of brook, or zoro instead of jinbe, they won't be able to do too much things against her.
it's like luffy vs eneru/enel or mihawk who can't damage buggy during the war. eneru and mihawk certainly are not weak, they're just fighting enemies who have advantages against them, ie their natural enemy. mama's situation is the same.
anyway, i love how oda managed to put some funny stuffs during that hectic moment. now for the long wait until the next chapter.
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Nami isn't going to keep Zeus she's only going to have him temporarily, he will probably go back to Big Mom when the whole thing is over. I still hate how Oda is treating Zeus, really thought that Oda could redeem him but eh I guess not.
Zeus doesn't need redemption. Already did good enough by me by ignoring Nami's temptation this time around. He got manipulated again, but what can ya do, that's literally Nami's thing.
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Loved the chapter. Big Mom doesn't want to kill them or sink them she even says I will leave you guys alone once the cake presents itself. She's not a cold blooded killer she's just eternally hungry. If she had the killer instinct about her there would be no story to tell.
Year of Sanji, let's go!
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Well, now Jinbe can fit in the door.
Oda was lurking occidental forums and saw the theory "Jinbe will die after Baedro"
Door? no more
Jinbe will be killed by Big Mom? Jinbe pushes her away
Monster Trio with Lanji? Sanji after a kick of Doflamingo, Doffy destroys her leg, leaves him in pain. Jinbe after a flamed sword plus Yonko power, unscathed and returning after 0.5 seconds.
Ship without sails? Jinbe sails!Fuck trolls is Oda's message.
Nothing exists; even if something exists, nothing can be known about it. Even if something can be known about it,knowledge about it can't be communicated to others. Even if it can be communicated, it cannot be understood.
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Loved the chapter. Big Mom doesn't want to kill them or sink them she even says I will leave you guys alone once the cake presents itself. She's not a cold blooded killer she's just eternally hungry. If she had the killer instinct about her there would be no story to tell.
I don't think you should draw conclusions on this line only
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The translation is probably not totally accurate. What I mean is that there is no way Bigmom will not want to kill them after eating the cake
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@Shobu:
Oda was lurking occidental forums and saw the theory "Jinbe will die after Baedro"
Door? no more
Jinbe will be killed by Big Mom? Jinbe pushes her away
Monster Trio with Lanji? Sanji after a kick of Doflamingo, Doffy destroys her leg, leaves him in pain. Jinbe after a flamed sword plus Yonko power, unscathed and returning after 0.5 seconds.
Ship without sails? Jinbe sails!Fuck trolls is Oda's message.
Were you reading some other chapter just now? In this reality, Jimbeis arms literally get slashed and he gets flown off the ship.
In this reality Doffy didn't do anything to Sanji because he was teleported. Fatjei would probs suffer the same fate if he got wrapped up in those strings.Also, not to burst ya bubble, but a starving Big Mom losing her balance for a second isnt thaaat impressive. Dont get me wrong, its cool, but she is clearly unphased by Fatty's love taps. She's only got food on her mind next panel, she's not really paying attention to swatting flies
Sanji > Jimbei
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Were you reading some other chapter just now? In this reality, Jimbeis arms literally get slashed and he gets flown off the ship.
In this reality Doffy didn't do anything to Sanji because he was teleported. Fatjei would probs suffer the same fate if he got wrapped up in those strings.Sanji > Jimbei
Lmao, you know Jinbe literally sent her flying off the ship, while Sanji got punked by Doflamingo.
It's hilarious how people still debate the most obvious things.
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I quite like this chapter, action was pretty good! Glad to see that the straw hats aren't so helpless/hopeless as we all thought them to be the moment BM got on the ship. Good to see the Jimbei is also strong, I think it is safe to assume he is the strongest fishman and therefore he shouldn't be so weak. He can't defeat BM alone but at least he can put up a good fight and cause some damage. The strawhats, as someone already mentioned are using everything to their advantage, like water against fire, soul against soul and using BM attack's against herself. Its clear that individually they aren't able to match her but at least as a team they can hold her off. I don't get it when people think that BM is weak, this is the future pirate king's crew and they might not be at their strongest now but at least they should be able to hold her off.
Not sure if BM being hungry and skinnier than normal has an effect on her power level but that flaming witch look really looks dam cool.
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Were you reading some other chapter just now? In this reality, Jimbeis arms literally get slashed and he gets flown off the ship.
In this reality Doffy didn't do anything to Sanji because he was teleported. Fatjei would probs suffer the same fate if he got wrapped up in those strings.Also, not to burst ya bubble, but a starving Big Mom losing her balance for a second isnt thaaat impressive. Dont get me wrong, its cool, but she is clearly unphased by Fatty's love taps. She's only got food on her mind next panel, she's not really paying attention to swatting flies
Sanji > Jimbei
I can see that you're a warrior when Sanji is on talk.
I'll be kind, let me share my thoughts.
Sanji -post Luffy obtaining One Piece + 10 years- > Jinbe -fighting with Ace-
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@Kai:
Lmao, you know Jinbe literally sent her flying off the ship, while Sanji got punked by Doflamingo.
It's hilarious how people still debate the most obvious things.
Anybody who doesnt know Doffy's power gets punked the first time. Sanji didnt even use a big name move against Doffy
Jimbei: Gets slashes and thrown by Big Mom attack
Sanji: parries Big Mom's punch (which was ko'ing Capones greatest defense) with ease and leaves unscathed carrying LuffyI respect the big man helmsman but he has his place after the true monsters
@Shobu:
I can see that you're a warrior when Sanji is on talk.
I'll be kind, let me share my thoughts.
Sanji -post Luffy obtaining One Piece + 10 years- > Jinbe -fighting with Ace-
Happy now?
i just respect the order of the crew m8, warrior for the true. You can say what ya will I just meant to correct your false statement on Jimbei leaving unscathed and being > Sanji
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Also, I said this with Luffy and Katakuri before but punching someone in the stomach with no Haki (Power Mochi/Jinbe's Punch) is not the same thing as attacking someone who is Haki'd up (Kong Gun vs. Katakuri/Cognac). Attacking someone who is Haki'd up takes much more skill.
We had a weakened, Hakiless, Big Mom attacking Jinbe who was Haki'd up, and she still came out on top. When Jinbe attacked her she was using no Haki, and wasn't even defending. Take nothing away from Jinbe though. The dude is SC level in the ocean.
Anybody who doesnt know Doffy's power gets punked the first time. Sanji didnt even use a big name move against Doffy
Lmao this dude is operating out of reality. Sanji used Diable Jambe. Twice. Those are his strongest moves. Heck, those moves didn't even do anything against Judge.
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@Kai:
Also, I said this with Luffy and Katakuri before but punching someone in the stomach with no Haki (Power Mochi/Jinbe's Punch) is not the same thing as attacking someone who is Haki'd up (Kong Gun vs. Katakuri/Cognac). Attacking someone who is Haki'd up takes much more skill.
We had a weakened, Hakiless, Big Mom attacking Jinbe who was Haki'd up, and she still came out on top. When Jinbe attacked her she was using no Haki, and wasn't even defending. Take nothing away from Jinbe though. The dude is SC level in the ocean.
Lmao this dude is operating out of reality. Sanji used Diable Jambe. Twice. Those are his strongest moves. Heck, those moves didn't even do anything against Judge.
The raid suits could endure Big Mom's Heavenly Fire, though. (Minus Reiju. I blame the exposed skin). And are outright said to be flameproof.
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The raid suits could endure Big Mom's Heavenly Fire, though. (Minus Reiju. I blame the exposed skin). And are outright said to be flameproof.
True, but that move still has strength no? It's not like Doflamingo was bothered by the fire either. It stalled him for 5 seconds, because of the impact.
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@Kai:
Lmao this dude is operating out of reality. Sanji used Diable Jambe. Twice. Those are his strongest moves. Heck, those moves didn't even do anything against Judge.
Diable used to be one of his strongest moves, doubt it is now though any more than gatling gun is one of Luffy's strongest moves. Still, Sanji used Spectre which is like a newer diable but that still doesnt seem close to his strongest. He needs screen time to show the new things he can do.
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Oh man, this is easily one of the funniest panels in the entire manga
EDIT: Okay, pretty much every page in this chapter was bloody amazing. Best part was Brook using that attack on her. Yeah, it's kinda weird seeing Big Mom actually getting her ass kicked around some, but I'm okay with it because it's the weaker crew members who are doing this to her, without Luffy, who managed to do jack nil to her.
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@Shobu:
The chap was a paramount shit storywise-ly, buuuut….!!!!
Last line, first panel <3333
First time Oda makes me like Momma's design, she looks frightening there! Loving it.
Brook MVP as always, Jinbe's first time using Buso and Daifuku's Odawned were great points.
If Newgate went and almost destroyed Marineford... and Weak trio + one Shichibukai turn over Lin Lin... it means that Nami, Chopy, Bony and Fatty can go and destroy half Marineford??
Hope next chapter we got Katakuri!! I need it!!!
Of course they can, how many Elite soldiers can withstand a lightning strike or attack of the soul? It's not always about strength in OP. Did everyone forget that a fodder like Perona could have destroyed the entire crew if it wasn't for Ussop?
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Big Mom brings disgrace to the name of yonko. I can't imagine Whitebeard screwing like this.
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Yeah as I said.
Oda just made Big Mom look even worse. This is just shameful.
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All the pets in WCI, like the two pudding has, any idea whose soul is inside them? I was wondering if it's possible for Nami to keep zeus. Mama can make another one.
IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
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@Joy:
Yeah as I said.
Oda just made Big Mom look even worse. This is just shameful.
Boy, I sure can't wait for your ceaseless bitching and gripping when the Straw Hats actually put up a fight against Kaido and his crew in Wano.
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@S.C.:
Boy, I sure can't wait for your ceaseless bitching and gripping when the Straw Hats actually put up a fight against Kaido and his crew in Wano.
Kaido is gonna fight against Luffy and some other top Supernova, he won't get stop by freaking Chopper, Nami and Brook. That is a big difference.
Big Mom, time and time again has absolutely failed to do anything of worth after the wedding. Oda keeps shitting on her.
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@Joy:
Kaido is gonna fight against Luffy and some other top Supernova, he won't get stop by freaking Chopper, Nami and Brook. That is a big difference.
Big Mom, time and time again has absolutely failed to do anything of worth after the wedding. Oda keeps shitting on her.
How do you know that? We haven't got a glimpse of Wano, yet. Anything is still up in the air.
And okay, so let's have them all be unable to do a single thing and let her sink the Sunny. That would be entertaining. Seriously dude, the Yonkou are not gods.
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@S.C.:
Boy, I sure can't wait for your ceaseless bitching and gripping when the Straw Hats actually put up a fight against Kaido and his crew in Wano.
To be fair, Big Mom & co aren't performing on Yonko level.
Like, if this were a championship Basketball game, and the team that was supposed to be A-team is getting crushed in every way by a new team… everyone would be like what the fuxz are they smoking.
The teamwork of BM pirates is horrible, their execution is piss poor, the only reliable thing about them is their strength (applies to BM and Katakuri only so far)
Now on the other hand Strawhats:
Phenomenal team work, taking advantage of each other's strengths and weaknesses, great execution and follow through. Awesome ability to improvise for the situation at hand.
The Strawhats just play like all star players.
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@Joy:Big Mom, time and time again has absolutely failed to do anything of worth after the wedding. Oda keeps shitting on her.
You bring up great points but Big Mom has not done ONE Yonko worthy thing ALL arc, not just since the wedding
If ppl want to bring up her shriek that shatterd a mirror…Luffy did the same thing without the dramatics at Fishman koing 500k people with a stare.
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@S.C.:
How do you know that? We haven't got a glimpse of Wano, yet. Anything is still up in the air.
And okay, so let's have them all be unable to do a single thing and let her sink the Sunny. That would be entertaining. Seriously dude, the Yonkou are not gods.
They were unable to do a single thing against Doflamingo, how hard it is to understand that ?
That is the logical thing to do. But Oda and logic have taken different ways years ago. Seriously dude, the Yonko Oda represented at first are gods compared to guys like Chopper, Nami and Brook. Do I seriously need to post how Oda has represented the other Yonko and Admirals compared to Big Mom ? It's not that hard.
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To be fair, Big Mom & co aren't performing on Yonko level.
Like, if this were a championship Basketball game, and the team that was supposed to be A-team is getting crushed in every way by a new team… everyone would be like what the fuxz are they smoking.
The teamwork of BM pirates is horrible, their execution is piss poor, the only reliable thing about them is their strength (applies to BM and Katakuri only so far)
Now on the other hand Strawhats:
Phenomenal team work, taking advantage of each other's strengths and weaknesses, great execution and follow through. Awesome ability to improvise for the situation at hand.
The Strawhats just play like all star players.
The Big Mom Pirates have had them in their clutches at least twice now. First with the Enraged Army, and then before the Tamatebako went off. Even now, they are still pinned down by the fleet gathered here.
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I love the chapter though.
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@S.C.:
Seriously dude, the Yonkou are not gods.
They're not? Shit, I made this altar for nothing…
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@Joy:
They were unable to do a single thing against Doflamingo, how hard it is to understand that ?
That is the logical thing to do. But Oda and logic have taken different ways years ago. Seriously dude, the Yonko Oda represented at first are gods compared to guys like Chopper, Nami and Brook. Do I seriously need to post how Oda has represented the other Yonko and Admirals compared to Big Mom ? It's not that hard.
Strange…it's almost like when they first met the Admirals and got a glimpse of our first Yonkou, the Straw Hats were weaker and unprepared for the New World. Could it be....gasp that they've actually gotten stronger? And something like them VS Aokiji could have gone differently?! Surely not!
They're not? Shit, I made this altar for nothing…
Heh. If we had a like system, I would give you one.
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Big Mom brings disgrace to the name of yonko. I can't imagine Whitebeard screwing like this.
You mean the same WB that got stab from behind or shot and stab by loads of marine fodder .
And other thing that happen in that arc . -
Man what a great chapter! I LOOOOOOVE when guys not named Luffy, Zoro, or law do something absolutely awesome! Chopper's still lacking a bit in my book but there is still plenty of time.
I know it might seem like Brook being immune to electricity just came out of no where I just want to remind people of the combo attack done to Oars. Usopp launches Brook out of a giant sling shot, Robin pulls him mid air to make him spiral like a foot ball, Nami charges a cloud and shocks the ship out of Brook and he becomes a spiraling thunder arrow of death.
I don't remember if Brook complained about the electricity or if he looked phased by it but in any case he was comfortable enough in the first place to let Nami do it way back then!
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Big Meme….Got punked. Almost seen the water twice. The embarrassment continues...
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Based on the translation on the color spread, plot threads should be getting tied up and this arc is about over.
