Chapter 870: Parting
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Wow, even up til the very end, Oda keeps you guessing if there's gonna be a full throwdown or not.
That treasure bomb, though… something's gonna happen to the castle at some point.
Also, jaiminisbox so random! (Timing-wise)Edit: Wait a tic... they can't possibly have the full throwdown now no matter what. We've been told the reverie mini-arc and start of Wano's would be this year as well. If we had a full fight now it'd last well into next year before that started.
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Looks like the plan still in motion.
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Slow-paced chapter to start off Volume 87. Really enjoyed Sanji's moment with Judge. Part of his reasoning for going back to save his family felt pretty random and undeserved, but this scene tied things off nicely. And interested in how Sanji & Luffy vs. Big Mom will go, of course.
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Good that Sanji doesn't want to see Judge face again.
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Off to read <3 Thanks !
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Smoothie: "It looks like we've been seriously underestimated". Overestimated, more like.
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I knew that Luffy and Sanji will be getting some fights at the conclusion, im leaning towards Sanji and Luffy vs Katakuri
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Never been this quick! Off to read lads - closed me eyes as I scrolled down the page - don't know if I'm spelling anything correctly right now
POST: Speaking of quick, that chapter seemta breeze by… Not as fleshy as I'd wish after a 2 week break, but at least Sanji is definitely gonna redeem himself in battle soon.
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Strawhats been Strawhats as always. Arguing at a very crucial situation.
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Well, that was fun.
So glad those 2 jumped out. Sanji could really use an opportunity to shine brightly.
And it would be cool if Nami got an opportunity to mess up Zeus again.
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Also, looks like the threat on Zeff is taken care of…at least on the Vinsmokes' end. I was initially thinking Big Mom might not care much for him or Sanji with Bege's betrayal on the line, but now that Sanji's back out in the open things might not go so smoothly after all.
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Those last panels just made me laugh
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Also… whose ship are they even trying to go to, anyway :ninja: They have like 3 different choices, but the Germa ships and Thousand Sunny are in way different places
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Well, that was fun.
So glad those 2 jumped out. Sanji could really use an opportunity to shine brightly.
And it would be cool if Nami got an opportunity to mess up Zeus again.
Yeah I also hope that now that since the 2 are already out, they will join the mess. But how will they be able to handle that many ennemies ? Oda still does not give a single clue
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Looks like Big Mom is the one exception to Sanji's code against women.
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Yeah I also hope that now that since the 2 are already out, they will join the mess. But how will they be able to handle that many ennemies ? Oda still does not give a single clue
Tamatebako will probably help in some way. Hard to say how at this moment, lol.
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Looks like Big Mom is the one exception to Sanji's code against women.
It's called character development. He can now strike ugly women! Rejoice :ninja:
Yeah, fast chapter that still hasn't solved anything… Bring the next one!
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It's a shame the art wasn't as good as in the last few chapters, and some very small panels made it a bit difficult to follow, like when Reiju was apparently blown away by BM, couldn't trully make that out. And the last clash is ok, but while Sanji's pose and everything feels dynamic, Luffy's punch…doesn't.
It also does trully feel like there will be no payback from Sanji to his family. A shame. I really wanted him to kick them all around for a bit to show them a lesson.
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Looks like Big Mom is the one exception to Sanji's code against women.
After rereading I think he is hitting Prometheus
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Smoothie: "It looks like we've been seriously underestimated". Overestimated, more like.
Lol my thoughts exactly.
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I know Oda has planned little things out from way further back already, but it's always nice to see how he thinks :)
How many chapters ahead does the guy plan out every little detail like this? He must constantly feel constipated with ideas.
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A great chapter to fill my excitement after 1-week of break
I kinda feel bad to Germa being the sacrificial lamb here. Oda-san is so mean
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The last page was pretty dope.
Sanji, please. Luffy is not Zoro.
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It also does trully feel like there will be no payback from Sanji to his family. A shame. I really wanted him to kick them all around for a bit to show them a lesson.
I'm liking his approach. It gives him a moral standard to uphold rather than just an eye for an eye that would bring him down to his family's level. If their comment in this chapter is any indication, the Vinsmokes are just as humiliated about how much they were punked.
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Not sure Renji no selling a enraged Big Mom is impressive or not.
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Looks like Big Mom is the one exception to Sanji's code against women.
He blocked her attack which he already did against Kalifa, he did not attack her
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@Kaido:
Also, looks like the threat on Zeff is taken care of…
Maybe the Vinsmoks do not care anymore but it was Bigmom's threat to begin with. Remember Pekoms's speech during Zou? He said "whoever fucks with Mama might one day have one of his relatives' head chopped off".
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Maybe the Vinsmoks do not care anymore but it was Bigmom's threat to begin with. Remember Pekoms's speech during Zou? He said "whoever fucks with Mama might one day have one of his relatives' head chopped off".
Yes, and that is what I addressed in the second part of my post.
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Am I the only one who finds Chiffon stupid for asking Big Mom to overlook her and her husband trying to kill her? And Big Mom replies that she won't allow her to eat snacks, seriously? Is this a metaphor?
Also, since when was Amande attending the wedding? It's either Oda totally forgot and remembered her just now, or I was missing her every time she shows up. What's next? Baron Tamago will be up there too?
Sanji's speech was nice, he really is right when saying Zeff won't accept this. Judge is still calling Sanji a failure though, what a horrible person.
Also, can't both Sanji and Gear 4th Luffy practically fly, I think they're both safe.
btw, the girl with panda mask is currently my favorite unnamed Big Mom pirate, while everyone was holding a gun or two, it seems she was holding a rapid fire machine gun. -
Looks like Big Mom is the one exception to Sanji's code against women.
well to be honest he knows he can't really hurt her anyway
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Not sure Renji no selling a enraged Big Mom is impressive or not.
their suit makes them immune to fire, we know that much from the previous chapters
the moment big mom was really going to connect,luffy and sanji popped up.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Maybe the Vinsmoks do not care anymore but it was Bigmom's threat to begin with. Remember Pekoms's speech during Zou? He said "whoever fucks with Mama might one day have one of his relatives' head chopped off".
that's what pudding is there for.
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Huh, so I guess Big Mom is the first female that Sanji's ever struck back at? Also, Bege once again being #1 Mafia Family Man.
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Huh, so I guess Big Mom is the first female that Sanji's ever struck back at? Also, Bege once again being #1 Mafia Family Man.
- he knows he can't hurt big mom
- as another user pointed out,he has never been against parrying attacks..he blocked some of kalifa's kicks
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@Kaido:
I'm liking his approach. It gives him a moral standard to uphold rather than just an eye for an eye that would bring him down to his family's level. If their comment in this chapter is any indication, the Vinsmokes are just as humiliated about how much they were punked.
I agree. Sanji grabbing Judge by the collar means that he has won the struggle. I still kinda want to see him smack his brothers around, which could still happen, if only briefly. Having a full on battle with both Judge and the brothers would be jarring, to say the least.
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On another note, it was funny to see Barto and club act like actual pirates and just beat people and burn stuff
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Caesar really is the worst kind of scum, lol. Sanji didn't stoop to Judge's level, neat.
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Seriously Oda ? Reiju taking a Yonko attack ?
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Brook took various Yonko attacks earlier in the arc. Reiju has fireproof gear and she was attacked with fire. And she still felt the effects.
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Interesting how Luffy and Sanji are the ones fighting with Germa. Their obvious personal connections to these fights aside, they both have the ability to fly out of there like Germa. I'd imagine the next chapter will start with Luffy telling Caeser to fly out of there, saying that both of them can fly with Sanji being surprised, having never seen Gear Fourth. Though I'd imagine we're gonna see it pretty soon.
Hopefully this does give us the chance to see Reiju fight Smoothie, at least for a little while. I can see Luffy obviously going straight for holding off Big Mom in Gear Fourth, while Sanji stops Katakuri from shooting down Caeser. We know how the crew will likely escape, so the big things still left over are what will happen with Pudding, what will come of Pekoms, and the Tamate box.
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@Joy:
Seriously Oda ? Reiju taking a Yonko attack ?
again,it was a fire based attack,much like the one they took a couple of chapters ago and came out unscathed because of their raid suits
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Brook took various Yonko attacks earlier in the arc. Reiju has fireproof gear and she was attacked with fire. And she still felt the effects.
BM didn't want to hurt Brook.Can you imagine Reiju taking attacks from WB and Kaido like nothing ?Or Akainu ?
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Interesting how Luffy and Sanji are the ones fighting with Germa. Their obvious personal connections to these fights aside, they both have the ability to fly out of there like Germa. I'd imagine the next chapter will start with Luffy telling Caeser to fly out of there, saying that both of them can fly with Sanji being surprised, having never seen Gear Fourth. Though I'd imagine we're gonna see it pretty soon.
Hopefully this does give us the chance to see Reiju fight Smoothie, at least for a little while. I can see Luffy obviously going straight for holding off Big Mom in Gear Fourth, while Sanji stops Katakuri from shooting down Caeser. We know how the crew will likely escape, so the big things still left over are what will happen with Pudding, what will come of Pekoms, and the Tamate box.
wonder if any of the big mom pirates can fly too and this will mutate in an aerial battle
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@Joy:
BM didn't want to hurt Brook.Can you imagine Reiju taking attacks from WB and Kaido like nothing ?Or Akainu ?
- she didn't want to kill him,she had plenty intention to hurt him though
- again,she has a fireproof rais suit, and that was a fire based attack
the moment big mom actually tried to punch her,that's when sanji and luffy came to the rescue.
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Edit: Wait a tic… they can't possibly have the full throwdown now no matter what. We've been told the reverie mini-arc and start of Wano's would be this year as well. If we had a full fight now it'd last well into next year before that started.
Haven't been around lately. Could you tell me where this was announced? :wassat:
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wonder if any of the big mom pirates can fly too and this will mutate in an aerial battle
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- she didn't want to kill him,she had plenty intention to hurt him though
- again,she has a fireproof rais suit, and that was a fire based attack
the moment big mom actually tried to punch her,that's when sanji and luffy came to the rescue.
You didn't answer my question.Would Reiju survive against an attack from those 3 guys ? Also Oda could have just handled it better.Show some Yonko worthy attack,not some east blue level attack.We are told time and time again that BM is strong but visually Oda has simply failed to showcase that.
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wonder if any of the big mom pirates can fly too and this will mutate in an aerial battle
Well we saw Montd'or riding on flying books back when their army was fighting Luffy and Nami. But he's a character I could easily see being taken down by a Vinsmoke while they try to buy escape time.
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@Joy:
You didn't answer my question.Would Reiju survive against an attack from those 3 guys ? Also Oda could have just handled it better.Show some Yonko worthy attack,not some east blue level attack.We are told time and time again that BM is strong but visually Oda has simply failed to showcase that.
if any of those guys had a fire based attack and used it against reiju?
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@Joy:
You didn't answer my question.Would Reiju survive against an attack from those 3 guys ? Also Oda could have just handled it better.Show some Yonko worthy attack,not some east blue level attack.We are told time and time again that BM is strong but visually Oda has simply failed to showcase that.
Big Mom has been punching holes into Bege's impregnable fortress like it means nothing. Nobody has even scratched her yet, much less come close to hurting her. She just threw a fireball at a person who has high fire resistance and it had some effect! She was going to punch Reiju, and Luffy and Sanji had to come out and double counter it in order to save her (cue in the criticism of Oda's sexism). What more do you want?
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Haven't been around lately. Could you tell me where this was announced? :wassat:
In december at JumpFesta by Oda