Today in Hitler Week
N.C. Representative Larry Pittman Calls Abraham Lincoln the “Same Sort [of] Tyrant” as Hitler
This rep is of course a member of the party that prizes itself as the Party of Lincoln.
Today in Hitler Week
N.C. Representative Larry Pittman Calls Abraham Lincoln the “Same Sort [of] Tyrant” as Hitler
This rep is of course a member of the party that prizes itself as the Party of Lincoln.
Today in Hitler Week
N.C. Representative Larry Pittman Calls Abraham Lincoln the “Same Sort [of] Tyrant” as Hitler
This rep is of course a member of the party that prizes itself as the Party of Lincoln.
It is still not uncommon in the South for the civil war to be referred to as "The War of Northern Aggression". The amount of bullshit revisionism on it down there is thick.
Honestly I'm not sure why North Carolina has elected to be such a loud and proud avatar for regressive Dixie bullshit recently, since otherwise the state isn't really….like that? Like compared to the Deep South? Dunno what's going on really.
He's probably from one of those insanely gerrymandered districts.
Trump also apparently ate a piece of cake so good he forgot which country he bombed during an interview.
Now I heard this quote while in another room, so I don't know if it's during his latest interview but I believe Trump said "NATO used to not fight terrorism. I asked them to change, and now they do." Did I hear that right? Cause I'm pretty sure we greatly benefited from NATO after a certain tragedy in 2001, so any talk about NATO being "obsolete" seems really ungrateful and stupid for that reason alone.
I like how even though this might be one huge publicity stunt it still makes Trump look bad because the relationship between the U.S. and Russia looks to have deteriorated even further under his administration.
It was Trump who complained about how bad the relationship between the U.S. and Russia had gotten under the Obama administration and now everyone believes its gotten even worse now thanks to Trump. Whether it's actually worse or not is debatable, but the point is those who voted for him while thinking he would "fix" the two countries' relationship might be pissed.
Also, Russia has decided to block a U.N. resolution condemning the chemical gas attack perpetrated by the Syrian government.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-vetoes-u-n-resolution-syria-attack-china-194110814.html
The last 3 pages of this thread are so depressing. Can't we go back to lighter times, like when Trump mocked Arnold's ratings and then proceeded to fuck up his presidency so bad he's at a 34% approval rating?
It was pretty much inevitable; the days when the President could be a blithering, do-nothing idiot without the entire world suffering for it ended long ago.
The last 3 pages of this thread are so depressing. Can't we go back to lighter times, like when Trump mocked Arnold's ratings and then proceeded to fuck up his presidency so bad he's at a 34% approval rating?
Trump being a petty whiny moron who likes to mock people isn't exactly "light" stuff.
The last 3 pages of this thread are so depressing. Can't we go back to lighter times, like when Trump mocked Arnold's ratings and then proceeded to fuck up his presidency so bad he's at a 34% approval rating?
You're only noticing a difference because the clown show has gone on a world tour. It's been heavy here at home.
The part about requesting Sesame Street characters for it or the Administration in general?
Both, really. It's kind of too much even for a facepalm.
@Monkey:
It is still not uncommon in the South for the civil war to be referred to as "The War of Northern Aggression". The amount of bullshit revisionism on it down there is thick.
Honestly I'm not sure why North Carolina has elected to be such a loud and proud avatar for regressive Dixie bullshit recently, since otherwise the state isn't really….like that? Like compared to the Deep South? Dunno what's going on really.
“And if Hitler had won, should the world just get over it? Lincoln was the same sort if [sic] tyrant, and personally responsible for the deaths of over 800,000 Americans in a war that was unnecessary and unconstitutional.”
It's still really weird to see Lincoln compared to Hitler, even from southerners who still want to fight the civil war. Is he the American Oda Nobunaga down there now?
@Monkey:
It is still not uncommon in the South for the civil war to be referred to as "The War of Northern Aggression". The amount of bullshit revisionism on it down there is thick.
Honestly I'm not sure why North Carolina has elected to be such a loud and proud avatar for regressive Dixie bullshit recently, since otherwise the state isn't really….like that? Like compared to the Deep South? Dunno what's going on really.
I don't understand this state! I went to high school where the most popular classmates lived in farms and most of them were super liberal and LBGT supporters! I've met my fair share of nutjobs, granted, but most of this state seems so… in-between left and right. And yet the leaders we elect are prime fucking evil.
And yet the leaders we elect are prime fucking evil.
Gerrymandering, friend. Gerrymandering.
It's still really weird to see Lincoln compared to Hitler, even from southerners who still want to fight the civil war. Is he the American Oda Nobunaga down there now?
A lot of southern revisionism is actually sort of soft on Lincoln, like the infamous Birth of a Nation.
Sherman is generally the focus of demonization. So this is extra kind of weird. Or somehow southern revisionism has actually gotten even dumber with time.
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I don't understand this state! I went to high school where the most popular classmates lived in farms and most of them were super liberal and LBGT supporters! I've met my fair share of nutjobs, granted, but most of this state seems so… in-between left and right. And yet the leaders we elect are prime fucking evil.
When in doubt blame old people and gerrymandering.
I'm represented by strong ass blue folks on the federal level, and eh…a moderate Republican on the representative level in state.
But my state senator is a Trump positive (well during the election) piece of crap.
Turns out my senatorial district takes my semi-diverse blue suburb town, cuts it in two (cutting out the blacker/browner parts of town hmmmmm) and places it in with old person infested woodsy hill suburb towns to our north. And this dude runs on lots of senior citizen related issues apparently alongside supporting Orangeman.
My town even in part having such a guy represent us, let alone in coastal Connecticut, is a joke. The guy who ran against him was a black democrat just to showcase the disconnect here.
It's still really weird to see Lincoln compared to Hitler, even from southerners who still want to fight the civil war. Is he the American Oda Nobunaga down there now?
Judging from my one encounter from a stars and bars boy who was almost ready to fight when I told him his "war of freedom" was for them to deprive others of it, I just like to assume Noe-Confederates are either really racist, really stupid, or more likely, both.
The Civil War, according to the Lost Cause/that fucker Shelby Foote:
Lincoln - confused tyrant who like totally didn't care about slavery or anything BAKA
Grant - worthless drunkard who could not lead an army
Sherman - bloodthirsty maniac who single-handedly burned down everything between Houston and Richmond
Lee - the Most Honorable and Chivalrous Gentleman who did Nothing Wrong
Jackson - BEST GENERAL EVAR who was totally not a crazy person given a horse
Union soldiers - thieves, murderers, rapists
Confederate soldiers - the MOST NOBLE AND BRAVE JOHNNY REBEL WHO FOUGHT FOR THEIR RIGHTS
Slavery - "DID U NO THAT KENTUCKY HAD SLAVERY, TAKE THAT LIBERALS!"
Black soldiers - Totally served in the Confederate army. Of their own volition, even!
Southern nationalism is our very own Balkan style crazy.
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The South should've been humiliated and reeducated like Nazi Germany.
@Cyan:
Sherman - bloodthirsty maniac who single-handedly burned down everything between Houston and Richmond
My father once told me that the only thing Sherman did wrong was that he didn't burn MORE of the south. Having dated a South Carolinian who referred to the the Civil War as the "War of Northern Aggression," I see the wisdom in my father's words.
This is distressing…
The body of the United States’ first ever female Muslim judge was foundWednesdayafternoon in the Hudson River near Manhattan, according toaWednesday*New York Post report.
Sheila Abdus-Salaam served as an associate judge of the Court of Appeals. She was the first African-American woman to serve on New York's top court. She was 65.
She had been reported missing earlier in the day, the newspaper reports.
Her husband later confirmed her identity.
Sources tell the Post that there were no visible signs of trauma or physical injuries suggesting foul play.
Police are still investigating.
My father once told me that the only thing Sherman did wrong was that he didn't burn MORE of the south. Having dated a South Carolinian who referred to the the Civil War as the "War of Northern Aggression," I see the wisdom in my father's words.
It never ceases to amaze me the animosity that people feel for a war that took place 150 years ago. None of us were alive for it, yet we have to hate one another for it? Ridiculous.
This is distressing…
Yeah that's a mob hit.
First the Easter Egg Roll, now Passover:
http://the-daily.buzz/a/trump-bucks-tradition-started-by-obama-and-people-are-furious?utm_content=inf_10_1163_2&tse_id=INF_980c9e201fa811e7952abb19e3a2d0d6
I know it's not as big a thing as the first, but does it take so much effort to go to a dinner?
@Cyan:
Sherman - bloodthirsty maniac who single-handedly burned down everything between Houston and Richmond
To be fair, that's not that far from the truth. Sherman's March to the Sea was pretty . . . . violent.
Shouldn't really come as a surprise. For Trump, he sees this as a no brainer to not attend. If he gets confronted on it, he can say that the media is complaining about nonsense because "Nobody loves jews more bigly than me", and he can try and validate it by saying "I'm working on important stuff. Great stuff, important stuff. Now excuse me, the winter white house awaits".
The South should've been humiliated and reeducated like Nazi Germany.
The number one thing that should have been done is to have targeted and devastated the elites. Turning the poorer folks, black and white alike, against them (which wouldn't have been any kind of fabricated conflict).
Upending the whole caste thing, both class and racial wise.
The south is still haunted by the caste shadow, and hell the whole country is haunted by the whole "turn the poor whites against the browns and blacks" playbook in general, hence Trump. Would have been nice to scorch that from the earth when it was vulnerable. Cancer has a funny way of growing back and spreading to other organs.
Also instead of creating (by other means than the way it happened anyway) a seething angry South, most Southerners might see it as a time of taking it to the man. Hell the Appalachian people literally did see it that way at the time.
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To be fair, that's not that far from the truth. Sherman's March to the Sea was pretty . . . . violent.
It was targeted at infrastructure and economy, the way Southern nationalists talk about it he was reigning some sort of war crime festival of massacres along the way. Which he was absolutely not. He was pretty strict about when civilian structures could be targeted (only upper officers could even approve them as targets, and only after local militia attacked their units), and even just stealing local people's horses and stuff had to be done semi-politely, I quote "In all foraging, of whatever kind, the parties engaged will refrain from abusive or threatening language". Which is kind of funny tbh.
@Monkey:
It is still not uncommon in the South for the civil war to be referred to as "The War of Northern Aggression". The amount of bullshit revisionism on it down there is thick.
Honestly I'm not sure why North Carolina has elected to be such a loud and proud avatar for regressive Dixie bullshit recently, since otherwise the state isn't really….like that? Like compared to the Deep South? Dunno what's going on really.
To roughly sum up your question about NC: http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article122593759.html
(also, after reading some of y'alls responses after scrolling down a bit: I mean, to focus on the South as a racist region does a disservice to the truth that the country is racist. When one travels throughout this great land, you'll find monuments and markers noting few of the struggles peoples of color/different religions/sexual orientations/gender have dealt with or are currently suffering under.)
(also, after reading some of y'alls responses after scrolling down a bit: I mean, to focus on the South as a racist region does a disservice to the truth that the country is racist. When one travels throughout this great land, you'll find monuments and markers noting few of the struggles peoples of color/different religions/sexual orientations/gender have dealt with or are currently suffering under.)
I was basically going to say this, so… QFT.
So.
North Korea is surrounded by US warships and 150,000 Chinese troops.
NK threatened to nuke the US at any sign of aggression today.
China has just vowed to bomb North Korea if they continue nuclear tests around their border.
The White House is claiming Russia was complicit and tried to cover up the Syrian chemical attack.
Putin says it was a false flag and that if the US or anyone crosses the red line in Syria they will retaliate with force.
The US is talking about putting further sanctions on Russia and possibly carrying on in Syria anyways.
WHAT THE HELL DID YOU DO TRUMP?!?!
I mean, we all expected this to happen under his administration but I thought it would take more than TWO MONTHS.
So.
North Korea is surrounded by US warships and 150,000 Chinese troops.
NK threatened to nuke the US at any sign of aggression today.
China has just vowed to bomb North Korea if they continue nuclear tests around their border.
The White House is claiming Russia was complicit and tried to cover up the Syrian chemical attack.
Putin says it was a false flag and that if the US or anyone crosses the red line in Syria they will retaliate with force.
The US is talking about putting further sanctions on Russia and possibly carrying on in Syria anyways.WHAT THE HELL DID YOU DO TRUMP?!?!
I mean, we all expected this to happen under his administration but I thought it would take more than TWO MONTHS.
Can we start seriously talking impeachment?
Kim Jong Un is insane, and whether or not you believe Putin is bluffing… I don't think we should be taking that risk right now.
Isn't there like zero indication that NK "nukes" could even come close to reaching the U.S.? And NK would be reduced to a smoking crater the second they lift a finger (absolutely sad and horrible, but the inevitable outcome).
That said, SK and Japan should absolutely be scared.
But of course Trump made this happen. Being surprised about that is like the rust belt dirt factory MAGA whites being shocked that Trump wants to remove their pre-existing condition provision for dirt lung syndrome.
Should've been impeached on day 1 for violating the emoluments clause, but we don't live in a sane world.
@CCC:
And NK would be reduced to a smoking crater the second they lift a finger (absolutely sad and horrible, but the inevitable outcome).
is it really that much of a lesser threat to the US?
@CCC:
Isn't there like zero indication that NK "nukes" could even come close to reaching the U.S.?
They can't get to the US from where they are and its probably just bluster on their part to look tough… (but there are submarines and airplanes) but yeah, they can absolutely hit their neighbors.
Them doing it might mean they get wiped off the face of the earth in retaliation, but it would also mean nuclear war hit its inevitable "oh we can actually use these now" point for all the countries that have them and that's just scary for obvious reasons.
We can sort of write off the two that have been used as "we had no idea how horrible this would actually be" but its still a horrible spot in history. We don't need a third, fourth, twentieth nuclear bomb strike anywhere in the world.
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is it really that much of a lesser threat to the US?
The US has spent so much money on military over the decades and has such a stockpile of nukes that its military power is like 14x that of all the other superpowers combined or something ridiculous like that, and could actually wipe basically any country (barring Russia) off the face of the earth overnight if it came down to it. And they only reason we couldn't do it to Russia is because its huge and they can wipe us out too.
The reprecussions for melting a country into glass would obviously be… very very very bad.
And yet with Trump in charge its not off the list of possibilities as "something no sane president with appreciation for the horror and repercussions would ever seriously consider,."
The other scary thing is, Trump can do an airstrike without approval from congress apparently... And it was looked at pretty heavily a few months back, it looks like there really isn't anything stopping him from launching nukes on his own accord without any approvals either. (If we survive his presidency I imagine that oversight will get patched... along with a million other things we never thought we'd need to check.)
So let me preface this by noting that i am totally ignorant about the actual realites of the subject, it's just things that pop into my mind. But i've always wondered why the North Korean missiles wouldn't just be intercepted, destroyed or otherwise neutralized the minute they are launched? Like the US (And by extension their strategic allies i would imagine) surely has had technology in the works since atleast the cold war designed to intercept or neutralize (the i also would imagine vastly superior) Soviet nuclear missiles no? And the North Koreans seem to be struggling to perfect the art of making the nuclear missiles in the first place, let alone mastering some sophisticated cloaking technology. I'm really hoping that some of ya'll are sitting on some knowledge on this, because i'd really like to know what things are really like y'know.
It's really impressive, in a perverse sort of way, to go 0-3 on announced military operations/events. Like, you have to try so, so hard to fuck up something that we've been wired to reflexively support since 9/11.
So let me preface this by noting that i am totally ignorant about the actual realites of the subject, it's just things that pop into my mind. But i've always wondered why the North Korean missiles wouldn't just be intercepted, destroyed or otherwise neutralized the minute they are launched? Like the US (And by extension their strategic allies i would imagine) surely has had technology in the works since atleast the cold war designed to intercept or neutralize (the i also would imagine vastly superior) Soviet nuclear missiles no? And the North Koreans seem to be struggling to perfect the art of making the nuclear missiles in the first place, let alone mastering some sophisticated cloaking technology. I'm really hoping that some of ya'll are sitting on some knowledge on this, because i'd really like to know what things are really like y'know.
Quite a few countries have that technology, and they're working on it for South Korea.
@CCC:
Isn't there like zero indication that NK "nukes" could even come close to reaching the U.S.? And NK would be reduced to a smoking crater the second they lift a finger (absolutely sad and horrible, but the inevitable outcome).
That said, SK and Japan should absolutely be scared.But of course Trump made this happen. Being surprised about that is like the rust belt dirt factory MAGA whites being shocked that Trump wants to remove their pre-existing condition provision for dirt lung syndrome.
Should've been impeached on day 1 for violating the emoluments clause, but we don't live in a sane world.
The North Koreans have been working on two separate technologies at once: (1) Nuclear weapons, and (2) Inter-continental Ballistic Missiles or ICBMs.
The first they have shown they are fully capable of, which is definitely a scary thing.
The second they have had many more struggles with, which is to be expected because it really is the more difficult technology. Making a delivery system capable of transporting a (very heavy) nuclear bomb to the other side of the world is extremely hard to do, and they have absolutely not shown that they have the capability to make a reliable long-range missile, much less one that is powerful enough to carry a payload as heavy as their lightest nuclear weapon.
What's far more likely, I think, is that North Korea will deploy one of their weapons on one of our close allies who most definitely are within range of their missile systems.
is it really that much of a lesser threat to the US?
Yes. Absolutely.
So let me preface this by noting that i am totally ignorant about the actual realites of the subject, it's just things that pop into my mind. But i've always wondered why the North Korean missiles wouldn't just be intercepted, destroyed or otherwise neutralized the minute they are launched? Like the US (And by extension their strategic allies i would imagine) surely has had technology in the works since atleast the cold war designed to intercept or neutralize (the i also would imagine vastly superior) Soviet nuclear missiles no? And the North Koreans seem to be struggling to perfect the art of making the nuclear missiles in the first place, let alone mastering some sophisticated cloaking technology. I'm really hoping that some of ya'll are sitting on some knowledge on this, because i'd really like to know what things are really like y'know.
Shooting down ICBMs is no easy task, even for the USA. We are still just developing the technology and have never proven that it works 100% of the time in a real-world scenario. Think of it this way - it's like trying to hit a small, fast bullet with an even smaller, faster bullet from thousands of miles away. An incredibly difficult task, especially if it needs to be done in real-time (in response to an emergency).
@CCC:
Being surprised about that is like the rust belt dirt factory MAGA whites being shocked that Trump wants to remove their pre-existing condition provision for dirt lung syndrome.
Why even bring race into this? >_>
Shooting down ICBMs is no easy task, even for the USA. We are still just developing the technology and have never proven that it works 100% of the time in a real-world scenario. Think of it this way - it's like trying to hit a small, fast bullet with an even smaller, faster bullet from thousands of miles away. An incredibly difficult task, especially if it needs to be done in real-time (in response to an emergency).
What's far more likely, I think, is that North Korea will deploy one of their weapons on one of our close allies who most definitely are within range of their missile systems.
Fascinating. I had the false understanding that the main problem for the US was that their radar net and missile defenses could theoretically be overwhelmed if for instance Russia fired a shit ton of missiles and electronic decoys all at once, not that it was actually a struggle to begin with to defend against even a handful of missiles from a pre-determined source. I guess one does tend to overestimate the technological advantage the US has, or rather the effect it practically has.
The US has spent so much money on military over the decades and has such a stockpile of nukes that its military power is like 14x that of all the other superpowers combined or something ridiculous like that, and could actually wipe basically any country (barring Russia) off the face of the earth overnight if it came down to it. And they only reason we couldn't do it to Russia is because its huge and they can wipe us out too.
The reprecussions for melting a country into glass would obviously be… very very very bad.
And yet with Trump in charge its not off the list of possibilities as "something no sane president with appreciation for the horror and repercussions would ever seriously consider,."
The other scary thing is, Trump can do an airstrike without approval from congress apparently... And it was looked at pretty heavily a few months back, it looks like there really isn't anything stopping him from launching nukes on his own accord without any approvals either. (If we survive his presidency I imagine that oversight will get patched... along with a million other things we never thought we'd need to check.)
Yes. Absolutely.
Thanks for the clarifications guys.
Why even bring race into this? >_>
Because when you look at the statistics, it wasn't the hard working, coal mining african americans who voted for Trump. It was mainly white males with a high school education or less.
Because when you look at the statistics, it wasn't the hard working, coal mining african americans who voted for Trump. It was mainly white males with a high school education or less.
Poorly educated people living in rural areas voted overwhelmingly for Trump, yes. The overwhelming majority of people who fit that description are white, but their views are clearly the result of their environment, not their race.
Attaching a racial label to an ideological group is very dangerous.
Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb, MOAB, targeting ISIS in Nangarhar, Afghanistan – first ever combat use
MOAB - also known as ‘Mother of all bombs" - a 21,600 lbs munition; dropped Thursday & US military currently assessing damage
Attaching a racial label to an ideological group is very dangerous.
What if that ideological group is of a mostly homogeneous race in the first place and much of their ideology is based on racial stereotypes of other groups?
Hopefully no civilians were anywhere near that thing.
GBU-43 which was dropped on on a cave complex believed to be used by IS fighters in the Achin district of Nangarhar is a large-yield conventional (non-nuclear) bomb, developed by the United States and has a kill radius of 1.6 KMs.
What if that ideological group is of a mostly homogeneous race in the first place and much of their ideology is based on racial stereotypes of other groups?
If their ideology is based on racial stereotypes of other groups, you can just call them racists.
Just something random and funny I thought I'd share
Also:
If their ideology is based on racial stereotypes of other groups, you can just call them racists.
….....Nah too easy.