Chapter 851: Tab End

Riddler

Ah, that was a good Christmas, sup peeps.

First of all, pudding is being overly forced here. As if we are suppose to feel for sanji's arranged marriage when Pudding and sanji has not even invested anything. They just meet, say a few nice things to each other and we are suppose to see that as Sanji's sunshine amongst his evil family? Nope, not buying this cheesy scenery. Also the over extension by Oda to try and make pudding out to be so evil, wow, "lulz don't get blood all over the place when i kill you cuzz mamamz is gonna destroy the entire hall," lulz as if you gonna kill anybody and lulz like reiju is gonna give a pancake flip when she is dead, Oda. Stop.

Oh, wow, and the cliche brook lines about luffy pursuing his wants at all costs and sanji sacrificing himself for the sake of others, ALL THE WHILE WHAT APPEARS TO BE AN OFF-PANEL BATTLE WITH BIG MOM….a low tier SH vs AN EMPEROR...YEAH ONE OF THE FOUR MOST POWERFUL PIRATES IN THE WORLD. WITH HER CLOUDS OUT! Oda you make your top characters so gritty and powerful, I'm hyped.

Jinbei is a wimp....Nami is a wuss crying like that, as if she was really going to die, who is gonna feel for her? Luffy's retarded as usual, still beating the drum that luffy will do anything to save his nakama, even rip his arms off then die in the process and then can't save anybody.

Lol, sorry, but you seem to be trying really hard hereThat's some overly forced trolling on your part. I hate to tell you this, but I think Pudding is a little bit better at being a convincing troll than you are.

TheStoner

@Sereques:

Yes you're correct, seeing Sanji cry is heartbreaking. But the question I can't get out of my head is what is making Sanji cry exactly?

Lifelong dream of eternal bliss with a beautiful girl shattered

Dissing his crew in favor of a hot girl and getting his heart broken

Fear of getting himself, family and crew killed the following day

Mockery of his chivalry

Getting played by a Yonkou

What exactly is the purpose of his tears, ffs he met the girl 48hours ago.

It's a compounding effect. The guy has sacrificed his freedom for his father figure. His only conciliation was that noone would die and he would have one person who was on his side.

At once both of the crutches he was holding himself up with were taken away from him. Of course his first reaction is going to be despair.

Medical Orbit

Where does "Goat Overlord" come from? I don't think there was a goat overlord in the chapter.

Zabuton

you have to re-read last week's chapter to fully get why sanji cried, i guess

in 850, he calls pudding his "only ray of light remaining." meaning that his only hope for living is with her

of course he sees her real intent, so sanji tries to light his cigarette to calm himself down

but it's raining, and he can't even get a light for that.

he's got no hope left (in his own mind–no crew, no family, and everyone important to him will die) so it pushes him over the edge to tears

on a side note, i am actually confident that the combined forces of luffy, jimbei, brook, sanji, chopper, and nami might be able to take the big mom pirates down this arc

Downloading

@RealMazen:

This is false. They were in Dressrosa as well & they did play a part.

I guess you know better than Oda…

Jump Festa 2016 Mayumi Tanaka read Oda's letter aloud:

"My audience frequently ask me "When will Sanji appear?" these days. Hirata-san (Sanji's voice actor) also asks me "When the heck will I appear?"

Don't worry guys! 2016 will be Sanji's year!

Finally it's time to reveal Sanji's birth! The member of Straw Hats who didn't made much appearances in Dressrosa arc will have many highlights next year."

MajinArekkusu

I know I am probably alone on this, but I never found jinbe appealing as a potential straw hat. Yes he is a cool character who has done cool things, but I just can't connect with him like I can with any other straw hat.

I am hoping he wont actually join and just be a vivi like straw hat and we actually get another member. ( although I wouldnt mind him joining if we get a new one still as well. ):ninja:

Count Mario

@Medical:

Where does "Goat Overlord" come from? I don't think there was a goat overlord in the chapter.

The OP accidentally mistook the name of the translator for the chapter title.

Halfmetal-lich

Great chapter, awesome to see Jinbe back, good to see Pudding is a right c*nt. Let's hope it stays that way.

Vectorkov

@Zabuton:

you have to re-read last week's chapter to fully get why sanji cried, i guess

Nah, you just need a little bit of empathy.

Neo

VectorKov, I like your name haha.

Kishido

May I ask what Vinsmoke will say that Reiju is wonded?

Lord Monkey D.

@Kishido:

May I ask what Vinsmoke will say that Reiju is wonded?

Considering there whole attitude so far they could do two things:

1. Make fun of her for being weak for a bit
2. Suspect something

Maybe its a mix of both.

Kdom

@Daz:

If Pudding never uses the ability again, then this whole scene will seem even more forced than it already is. The DF usage being a chekhovs gun would still make the current scene completely utilitarian, but it'd make it feel like it had more of a point.

But for what purpose would we see her ability again ? The theory that she rewrites big mum memorie is farfetched.
Big mum has a lot of devil fruit users in her family but Oda won’t have much time to focus on them in detail

K. Kira XXIII

Pudding being evil was far fetcjed, so her manipulating Big Mom's memories is in the same category. However I'd prefer if neither the Vinsmokes nor the Big Mom pirates get the redemption " it wasn't entirely their faut card"

holl

About the missing tooth of Luffy, I really do hope so Oda will keep on making changes to Luffy's appearance towards the end of the story.

All that so he could resemble a MANLY real pirate, just like Blackbeard was designed to look like. I also hope the case of reserved-an-eyepatch-for-an-important-character Oda had going is also made for Luffy.

It would also be a memorial of the conflict with Sanji we had this arc. You know, permanent scars and shit.

Hell, Blackbeard is the real pirate of One Piece and he's got scars everywhere and is missing half of his teeth. I like it.

Shobu Yoruichi

@MajinArekkusu:

I know I am probably alone on this, but I never found jinbe appealing as a potential straw hat. Yes he is a cool character who has done cool things, but I just can't connect with him like I can with any other straw hat.

I am hoping he wont actually join and just be a vivi like straw hat and we actually get another member. ( although I wouldnt mind him joining if we get a new one still as well. ):ninja:

You're not alone, Screwtape is with you.

I was wondering about the theory of Big Mom being a dwarf giant and came to the conclusion that a giant son must appear to be considered. A blunder to me, i can't say that such young lady of the human species can give 60 births and keep looking beautiful like she does.

flandrian15

So Chopper is going to meet up with Sanji through his guest room mirror and the latter will put his Mr. Prince hat back on. Them being able to move about freely through the mirror world will give them a considerable advantage.
This would be the ideal time to do something like this. He needs to have a moment where he sits down, lights his cigarette with resolve in his eyes as if he has a plan and then put it in motion so that the red wedding, which IS going to happen will in no way go as Big Mom expected whilethey have no clue that he knows everything.

Kdom

About Big Mum size, it was funny to see Brook so small

uniaka ikuzakas

Even if pudding deleted reiju's memory about her true self, vinsmokes should still be like wtf, who is random soldier that wounded reiju and why, and how did he get such weapons that can hurt her iron like body. BM and her crew is the first option they will think.

Pudding should edit the movie with luffy's(example) picture shooting reiju. Because so far all point to BM betrayal, her convenient fruit didn't do much.

The Tenth Strawhat

Red Wedding? I don't remember the wedding/tea party ever being called that unless I need to reread a chapter.

Chrior

@The:

Red Wedding? I don't remember the wedding/tea party ever being called that unless I need to reread a chapter.

It's a Game of Thrones/Song of Ice and Fire reference. Spoiler. Kinda. :ninja:

Lord Monkey D.

@The:

Red Wedding? I don't remember the wedding/tea party ever being called that unless I need to reread a chapter.

Its a reference to Game of Thrones and an event that happens in Season 3 and in the book series.

Though it does it really work if we know the wedding will be violent unlike in GoT.

Aldia

Okay I totally understand that Brook deserves a moment to shine and all, but standing in the face of Big Mam.. a Yonko and yet he could still standing on his feet in the next chapter.. Oda, seriously? Smoker couldn't stand one page against Doffy

And Sanji who almost killed after two pages.. in the second hit if Law didn't interfere, but now Brook standing in the face of BM and she still couldn't put him down yet. Seems like Oda sicked of those people who's calling Sanji/Smoker a weak, so he changed his plan a little :ninja:

The Tenth Strawhat

@Chrior:

It's a Game of Thrones/Song of Ice and Fire reference. Spoiler. Kinda. :ninja:

@Lord:

Its a reference to Game of Thrones and an event that happens in Season 3 and in the book series.

Though it does it really work if we know the wedding will be violent unlike in GoT.

I've never seen/read a single episode/book of Game of Thrones in my life, but I do hear good things about the series. I'll give it a look, maybe it'll catch my love.

TheStoner

@Aldia:

Okay I totally understand that Brook deserves a moment to shine and all, but standing in the face of Big Mam.. a Yonko and yet he could still standing on his feet in the next chapter.. Oda, seriously? Smoker couldn't stand one page against Doffy

http://i2.mangapanda.com/one-piece/698/one-piece-3893263.jpg

And Sanji who almost killed after two pages.. in the second hit if Law didn't interfere, but now Brook standing in the face of BM and she still couldn't put him down yet. Seems like Oda sicked of those people who's calling Sanji/Smoker a weak, so he changed his plan a little :ninja:

Big Mom wants to keep Brook. I think she's probably holding back.

Jabra

@Aldia:

Okay I totally understand that Brook deserves a moment to shine and all, but standing in the face of Big Mam.. a Yonko and yet he could still standing on his feet in the next chapter.. Oda, seriously? Smoker couldn't stand one page against Doffy

She doesn't want to kill him, she wants Brook for her collection of curious creatures. She's probably having a hard time taking him down without ending his life.

Aldia

@TheStoner:

Big Mom wants to keep Brook. I think she's probably holding back.

@Jabra:

She doesn't want to kill him, she wants Brook for her collection of curious creatures. She's probably having a hard time taking him down without ending his life.

Okay, at least that's make sense

Buggy D. Clown

I'd bet after this huge moment by Brook…he's gonna ask Big Mom to see her panties in the next chapter lol Wise but horny skeleton

Chrior

@The:

I've never seen/read a single episode/book of Game of Thrones in my life, but I do hear good things about the series. I'll give it a look, maybe it'll catch my love.

What's even more curious is that it seems Oda has taken up Game of Thrones sometime during Dressrosa and it seems he's including some inspiration from that in the series lately: first, the "Throne Wars" Doffy declared at the end of his arc, and now this sort of "Red Wedding"… And it was Greg who showed it to Oda, I believe?

lokilasher

I also feel like Jack's torture of Nekomamushi and Inuarashi: http://i.imgur.com/3MK48KQ.png

was really similar to Ramsay's torture of Theon: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/U3PXs9rfQFg/maxresdefault.jpg

Smygarn

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Smygarn

I'd bet after this huge moment by Brook…he's gonna ask Big Mom to see her panties in the next chapter lol Wise but horny skeleton

That is why I love Brook. :D

badwolf1234

@The:

I've never seen/read a single episode/book of Game of Thrones in my life, but I do hear good things about the series. I'll give it a look, maybe it'll catch my love.

@Jabra:

She doesn't want to kill him, she wants Brook for her collection of curious creatures. She's probably having a hard time taking him down without ending his life.

Yeah big mom will be the next pokemon master using pokeballs rather than masterballs weaking opponents first before capture lol

Daz

@Aldia:

Okay I totally understand that Brook deserves a moment to shine and all, but standing in the face of Big Mam.. a Yonko and yet he could still standing on his feet in the next chapter.. Oda, seriously? Smoker couldn't stand one page against Doffy

http://i2.mangapanda.com/one-piece/698/one-piece-3893263.jpg

@Jabra:

She doesn't want to kill him, she wants Brook for her collection of curious creatures. She's probably having a hard time taking him down without ending his life.

Theres also the fact that Big Mom is using fire and electricity to fight an enemy with no flesh to burn, and who volunteered to be electrocuted as part of an attack on Oars. Plus, his unique DF in relation to hers. Of all people, Brook has a ton of advantages in this scenario; Its anyones guess though, seeing how its all offpaneled.

allbluebro

@Lord:

Pretty sure he is talking about Chop and Carrot and yes they are really alike.

News to me ,and I like your supporting facts.

Dr. Faust

I think Big Mom was just just having fun in trying to submit Brook psychologically, even if he had an advantage against Prometheus and Zeus for his DF or his skeleton body i somewhat doubt she couldn't just take him out in one or few shots with brute strenght

KageKageKing

@Screwtape:

Dame Dame Dame Dame Dame Dame.

Congratulations, you lost 40 minutes of your life that will never go back thinking of what to type instead of anything actually productive.

allbluebro

@Buggy:

I'd bet after this huge moment by Brook…he's gonna ask Big Mom to see her panties in the next chapter lol Wise but horny skeleton

OH HELLNAAAWWWW
Brook doesn't wan that ho's sour patch kid candy panties havin stankin ass yuk bruhjust yuck.

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@badwolf1234:

Yeah big mom will be the next pokemon master using pokeballs rather than masterballs weaking opponents first before capture lol

LMAO Seriously, turn out the four emperors are just the elite four.

Lord Monkey D.

@allbluebro:

News to me ,and I like your supporting facts.

Copying from a previous place from a bit of go:

Yes she is, she does look different then chopper all I said is its boring and at least Chopper transforms, she probably doesn't have a story.. there been no hints of anything deeper to her character or that she is hiding anything with some dark past unlike Chopper or hell even Pedro. There alike in the way that they are both animal humans that wanted to go out to sea and see it but something prevented them but different in execution that makes Carrot boring.

With Chopper it was much more interesting and adds to his character with his distrust in humans and the possible persecution he would face as "monster" there like he had with the past along with some companionship/obligation to Kureha and Hiluluk with Luffy and Co helping him move past the monster stigma. With Carrot it just seems like Wanda would disapprove and the opportunity never presented itself. Carrot probably faced no hardships or trails like any of the other straw hats, she probably grew up on Zou had a nice family, trained and joined the Musketeers and thats basically it.

Both are the young quirky energetic naive souls that believe anything and wanted to eat all the chocolate furniture and got distracted by the sweets except one is a bit more of a coward then the other and one rushes blindly in to battle. Chopper has more utility with just his base forms, rumble forms and anything else he may have developed, plus his doctor skills that make him unique, unlike lookout or whatever people bring up for carrot can do since anyone can do this (and before you bring up Jinbe with Helmsman at least he serves as really the only effective fighter when it comes to the water with using fishman karate and being able to breathe there).

I mean people are sick of seeing Nami clones in design, why would people want a less interesting female chopper for all intensive purposes

allbluebro

An up an coming Mink (new race) whom has a quirky personality, a blank past (which does differentiate her from the other straw hats by the way aka make her unique)
She knows nothing about the world whereas Chopper is one of the most intelligent membersof the crew. She has fighting abilities we know little about so don't be so quick to write them off. Saying she has no purpose on the crew is a weak cop out and so what she's young and energetic you say that like its a bad thing. I don't really look at chopper as young anymore and certainly not energetic. So you literally named about NOTHING that they have in common yet you call her a Chopper clone.

("and before you bring up Jinbe with Helmsman at least he serves as really the only effective fighter when it comes to the water with using fishman karate and being able to breathe there").

I doubt we will ever see an underwater battle where the strawhats are like shit what do we do we are so helpless good thing we have Jinbei. Not to mention they did just fine in a whole underwater arc worth of fighting.

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She's more like Luffy than Chopper. Jumps into danger, craves adventure, is ridiculously talented at fighting and strong for her age.

GetsugaZoro

@KageKageKing:

Congratulations, you lost 40 minutes of your life that will never go back thinking of what to type instead of anything actually productive.

Apparently he did, he is trying to rustle feathers and you answered him to make his day.

KageKageKing

@GetsugaZoro:

Apparently he did, he is trying to rustle feathers and you answered him to make his day.

That is not classified as productive isn't it?

X-Ray

Am I the only one that noticed Pudding blinking a different eye in every scene? Is it how she usually blinks one at a time or does it have to do something with her ability? She blinked a different eye when using her ability

Count Mario

@allbluebro:

LMAO Seriously, turn out the four emperors are just the elite four.

I would love to see some One Piece fan art of the Shichibukai being Gym Leaders, the Marines being the villainous evil team of the region with the Admirals as Admins and Akainu as the leader, the pre-timeskip Yonko being the Elite Four, and Blackbeard as the rival and eventual Champion like Blue in Gen 1. Crewmates can even make up parties of Pokemon lol.

badwolf1234

@Count:

I would love to see some One Piece fan art of the Shichibukai being Gym Leaders, the Marines being the villainous evil team of the region with the Admirals as Admins and Akainu as the leader, the pre-timeskip Yonko being the Elite Four, and Blackbeard as the rival and eventual Champion like Blue in Gen 1. Crewmates can even make up parties of Pokemon lol.

Well with neevil we got 8 animal themed shichibukai lol i could imagine

Crocodile ground type
Moriah dark type
Hancock rock type
Kuma flying type
Doflamingo fairy type (bcuz pink lol)
Mihawk steel type
Jinbe water type
Nevill normal type

Lol

Count Mario

@badwolf1234:

Well with neevil we got 8 animal themed shichibukai lol i could imagine

Crocodile ground type
Moriah dark type
Hancock rock type
Kuma flying type
Doflamingo fairy type (bcuz pink lol)
Mihawk steel type
Jinbe water type
Nevill normal type

Lol

Jimbei messes up the formula since he will become a future Straw Hat though. So I say replace him with Buggy or Law. Law can be a psychic type. And Weevil can be Bug type just because of weevil beetles lol.

Big Mom has Ghost type Pokemon because of her soul powers. Kaido has Dragon type Pokemon. Shanks has Normal type Pokemon. Whitebeard would have fighting type Pokemon.

And if Luffy were to venture out into a second region like how Gen 2 had Johto and Kanto, except in this case they would represent the Grand Line and New World, then the other region could have the Worst Generation as Gym Leaders. XD

Johnny B. Decent

I would switch Moriah to Ghost-type, BM to Fairy-type and Blackbeard's Dark-type.

Count Mario

@S.C.:

I would switch Moriah to Ghost-type, BM to Fairy-type and Blackbeard's Dark-type.

I feel like Blackbeard would be mixed due to stealing Devil Fruits and having a crew that is as varied as the Straw Hats. But those type switches also work.

Johnny B. Decent

@Count:

I feel like Blackbeard would be mixed due to stealing Devil Fruits and having a crew that is as varied as the Straw Hats. But those type switches also work.

The Dark-type's more about fighting sneaky and under-handed then actual darkness powers, which fits Teach to a T.

Count Mario

@S.C.:

The Dark-type's more about fighting sneaky and under-handed then actual darkness powers, which fits Teach to a T.

I don't deny that at all lol.