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Chapter 819: Momonosuke, Heir of the Kouzuki Clan
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because they did not have a full moon to turn into wereminks then but being that they had connections to the Devil clan they might have a weapon or be able to use zou to attack them.
Maybe the full/new moon makes them "Awaken" just like "Awakened Zoans" at ID.
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Maybe the full/new moon makes them "Awaken" just like "Awakened Zoans" at ID.
I agree it would also be interesting if they can regrow their body parts with it and imaging if pekoms is a awakened zoan he would regenerate his health like crazy lol.
the strawhats are going to have to stop the gas weapons since they will use they right away this time
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http://readms.com/r/one_piece/819/3285/1yeah, its already been posted lol
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So now SH allied with Law, Wano, and the Minks !!! i can only imagine how the final War will go down. ( with Elbaf's giant, Fishmen, Dwarf, SH Fleet, and more I guess ).
and i see mammoth Vs Zou who will win ? place your bets !!!
Agree to Differ Some People Feel the Rain, Others just get wet
Why so Serious?, Let's Put a Smile on that Face!
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No break next week! Yay! (/^o^)/
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I love the comedy in this chapter. Really nice
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Oh thank goodness lol. Many thanks.
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MS is finally up. And they're doing the time skip country/islands too! yayyy
wonder if franky helped the people of karakuri island
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so they're going to attack the elephant the other translation i read did not have the last page up yet lol.
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it would be funny if zou was their secret weapon and it kills them all lol.
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Luffy has a bunch of friends on Zou right now. He's not going to leave them behind to fight regardless of whether Zoro can protect them or not. That would be incredibly out-of-character.
No, it's not out of character not even close, it wouldn't be the first time where he left an obstacle for other ppl in order to deal with a more urgent obstacle
I get that you don't want to change your stance on this issue, and you have some good reasons, but at least acknowledge the fact that jack is completely outnumbered here it's not gonna be remotely interesting if you don't remove some ppl out of the picture from the SH camp, and the most obvious and plausible route is to send Luffy away which he just announced he'll do in this very chapteryes Luffy might end up being the one beating jack after all but the possibility of him leaving now is just as strong if not stronger
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No, it's not out of character not even close, it wouldn't be the first time where he left an obstacle for other ppl in order to deal with a more urgent obstacle
I get that you don't want to change your stance on this issue, and you have some good reasons, but at least acknowledge the fact that jack is completely outnumbered here it's not gonna be remotely interesting if you don't remove some ppl out of the picture from the SH camp, and the most obvious and plausible route is to send Luffy away which he just announced he'll do in this very chapterno way luffy is leaving before jack is going down it says in the chapter they're going to kill zou the elephant.
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This is gonna be amazing.
Luffy vs Kaido
Zoro vs the Shogun of the Wano Kingdom - who i assume is gonna be a monstrously powerful swordsman - exactly the kinda opponent Zoro needs. I've been aching to see Zoro in an epic sword fight for a very long time. Not since Zombie Ryuuma has he even had one… -
Do you think Momo's planning of opening Wano will be a tribute to the history of JP opening to the west?
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No, it's not out of character not even close, it wouldn't be the first time where he left an obstacle for other ppl in order to deal with a more urgent obstacle
I get that you don't want to change your stance on this issue, and you have some good reasons, but at least acknowledge the fact that jack is completely outnumbered here it's not gonna be remotely interesting if you don't remove some ppl out of the picture from the SH camp, and the most obvious and plausible route is to send Luffy away which he just announced he'll do in this very chapterExcept Jack is the most urgent obstacle. He's right there, ready to finish off the country. Meanwhile, Sanji is probably days away from his marriage.
How do you know Jack is outnumbered? There's 5 or so other ships with him. And he's planning to take everyone down in one go anyway. Luffy knows how powerful Jack is, so him leaving Jack to the others is just bonkers.
Did you completely forget how Luffy didn't run away from Fujitora even though people wanted him to? And now that Luffy has formed an official alliance with the Samurai and the Minks, it's extremely unlikely that he won't stay, especially with most minks still being hurt as one of Jack's mooks just stated.
And then there's Pekoms. He's definitely not going to abandon his homeland knowing that Jack just destroyed it before.
I mean, I can understand wanting stuff to look more tough, but not at the cost of murdering a character's personality. It's funny that you comment about my stance when yours is the crazy one here.
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This is gonna be amazing.
Luffy vs Kaido
Zoro vs the Shogun of the Wano Kingdom - who i assume is gonna be a monstrously powerful swordsman - exactly the kinda opponent Zoro needs. I've been aching to see Zoro in an epic sword fight for a very long time. Not since Zombie Ryuuma has he even had one…And what about Law? I think he will be together with Luffy taking on Kaidou.
And if we are talking about Wano being japan. Maybe there is some super mega strong martial artist or ninja in Wano waiting as well
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Do you think Momo's planning of opening Wano will be a tribute to the history of JP opening to the west?
it was not just the west they opened up trade to the entire world
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yes Luffy might end up being the one beating jack after all but the possibility of him leaving now is just as strong if not stronger
especially if you don't want to spend more than half of the "Sanji year" in ZouIt's kinda funny that people use Luffy saying that he will leave Pekoms as an argument for him leaving now.
He said the same thing yesterday ("I'm going to go after him now"). Then he partied for the entire night…
Never mind that Pekoms is still bed-ridden, and Luffy just reopenned his wounds last night.
Plus, the fact Luffy wants to fight Jack.
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Man, lets skip all this Zou babbling already and move on to Sanji. It's his year after all :ninja:
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And what about Law? I think he will be together with Luffy taking on Kaidou.
And if we are talking about Wano being japan. Maybe there is some super mega strong martial artist or ninja in Wano waiting as well
Law i assume will take on 1 of Kaido's 3 Calamities be that Jack or who-ever the other 2 monsters are.
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Poor elephant, I wonder about how exactly Jack's gonna be defeated.
By the way, I was thinking today, is Izou from Wano?
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MS is finally up. And they're doing the time skip country/islands too! yayyy
wonder if franky helped the people of karakuri island
of course he did he spent two years there he even turned the lion robot into a sunny head robot
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Poor elephant, I wonder about how exactly Jack's gonna be defeated.
By the way, I was thinking today, is Izou from Zou?
it would be funny if zou took a dump on jack's ship and that zou is their secret weapon lol
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I wasn't expecting Jack to return until after Luffy left, but I guess this works too.
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momo next nakama, 100% sure now. dead parents, his father went with roger to raftel, new type of nakama (a kid)
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Except Jack is the most urgent obstacle. He's right there, ready to finish off the country. Meanwhile, Sanji is probably days away from his marriage.
we don't know when the marriage is happening and once it does it would be over we are in a race against time here, and you keep forgetting that you can deal with both obstacles more effectively in opposed to unnecessarily delaying the issue of the year !!
Did you completely forget how Luffy didn't run away from Fujitora even though people wanted him to?
yet he was forced to when the plot required him to do so since there was nobody who could deal with fugitora back then
Can you say the same about jack ? i guess not .. if law and zoro can't take him on I don't see how would luffy do it aloneHow do you know Jack is outnumbered? There's 5 or so other ships with him. And he's planning to take everyone down in one go anyway.
we already know he has many ships under his command what's your point ? we're discussing what we've seen so far
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Luffy has a bunch of friends on Zou right now. He's not going to leave them behind to fight regardless of whether Zoro can protect them or not. That would be incredibly out-of-character.
Luffy won't run away from an obstacle hoping that others will solve them. That was Ace's entire philosophy.
It's not out-of character at all. Sanji is also his friend so it makes sense to rescue him too, and friendship also means trust his friends they'll do what they have to. Minks have to properly defend their land (even more if they want to help the alliance in something like defeating Kaido), and Inu's speech about not making twice the same error also points to Luffy leaving the alliance behind, trusting them to beat Jack and going after Sanji. At least it's completely believable plot line.
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momo next nakama, 100% sure now. dead parents, his father went with roger to raftel, new type of nakama (a kid)
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IfJack touch Zunisha i'mma enter into the freaking page and beat the shit out of it myself!
This chapter was just to be sure that Law will regret the day he asked Luffy for an alliance, Zoro to point out if Sanji worth thousand of men he worth two thousands of men xD
Honestly you guys expect so much from a 8 years old kid, he lost his parents and probably saw their death, yet he surely act as if nothing happens for quite some times, i think Momo is strong enough for keeping it quiet and not going insane.
Thumbs up for Nami talking about money and patting Zoro's head as if she was patting a kid xD
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Honestly you guys expect so much from a 8 years old kid, he lost his parents and probably saw their death, yet he surely act as if nothing happens for quite some times, i think Momo is strong enough for keeping it quiet and not going insane.
Part of this may come from the fact that we saw multiple Straw Hats do quite a lot at a young age despite/because of very similar circumstances.
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It's not out-of character at all. Sanji is also his friend so it makes sense to rescue him too, and friendship also means trust his friends they'll do what they have to. Minks have to properly defend their land (even more if they want to help the alliance in something like defeating Kaido), and Inu's speech about not making twice the same error also points to Luffy leaving the alliance behind, trusting them to beat Jack and going after Sanji. At least it's completely believable plot line.
Except they have to beat Jack and his ships before they kill zou even if luffy leaves now he will go gear 4 and defend it.
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All I can say is, a lot depends on how soon Luffy leaves. Including how many arcs are going on at once.
But a likely scenario is this: The elephant goes down, everyone has to leave (for Wano except for Luffy & Pekoms). If there's a fight with Jack at that time he would lose, he'd be up against too much. -
Look at Mangapanda most viewed stuff, it's Naruto, Bleach and Fairy Tail, so it's the same with Mangastream, they will upload Bleach first because the crazy people that actually think Bleach is good are in bigger number on those websites.
Sorry for the offtopic but it probably has more to do with Bleach having like five lines of dialogue making it quicker to scanlate. On topic I think when Luffy said he'd kick Jack's ass that that was our confirmation/foreshadowing of those two fighting. If not Id be fine with Zoro taking him on.
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we don't know when the marriage is happening and once it does it would be over we are in a race against time here, and you keep forgetting that you can deal with both obstacles more effectively in opposed to unnecessarily delaying the issue of the year !!
Stop believing that they year of Sanji means that Sanji needs to be a constant presence. Regardless if Luffy leaves or not, the fight against Jack would still have to be shown anyway.
Luffy leaving or not means Sanji loses the spotlight anyway. So yeah, this whole argument doesn't work.
yet he was forced to when the plot required him to do so since there was nobody who could deal with fugitora back then
Can you say the same about jack ? i guess not .. if law and zoro can't take him on I don't see how would luffy do it aloneYou're completely missing the point. Jack is a man that can destroy countries.
The first time Jack came, Zou was left in terrible shape with its strongest warriors being left amputated. You really think Luffy, knowing all this, would leave his crew and his Samurai and Mink friends behind?
we already know he has many ships under his command what's your point ? we're discussing what we've seen so far
you have jack and a couple of his followers on one side and on the other you have luffy's and law's crews , the minks and the samurai's if that's not outnumbered i don'tA "couple of his followers" is very vague.
Law's crew fought in the last battle and didn't make much of a difference, the Straw Hat crew is missing one of their key fighters and most Minks are still injured. And if Jack manages to kill that elephant, how many more minks would go down in one go.
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Is it me or they kinda copy-paste Zoro from the previous chapter?
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Wait, so now Jack shows up at Zou while Luffy's still here and there are still people who think he won't fight him? I don't get it.
Luffy has way more reasons to fight Jack than Zoro does. I think everyone who's insisting it'll be Zoro vs. Jack instead of Luffy vs. Jack is just saying what they want to happen. Jack is the highest confirmed bounty we've seen in the series so far. Luffy is (tied for) the highest in his group, and is the strongest person on Zou right now. Why would anybody else fight Jack? Luffy's not just gonna be like, "Oh shit, Jack's here, well, good luck to you guys!" He hates Jack for what they did to the Minks, and he is now officially allied with them and the samurai. Do you really think the first thing he'll do in this new alliance is ditch them all when they're being attacked and their island might be destroyed? What kind of logic is that? When it comes to protecting his allies, he takes that very seriously, and he wouldn't leave the island just under the hope that his friends will be okay. Yes, Zoro's strong, but Luffy didn't leave Doflamingo to Zoro, did he? Luffy sees it as his duty to protect his crew from the bad guys, and even if he does believe in them, he always fights the strongest in the group.
And this is all not mentioning the fact that Pekoms isn't healed yet and can't leave anyway, so it's not like Luffy was gonna head out right this very second.
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It's not out-of character at all. Sanji is also his friend so it makes sense to rescue him too, and friendship also means trust his friends they'll do what they have to. Minks have to properly defend their land (even more if they want to help the alliance in something like defeating Kaido), and Inu's speech about not making twice the same error also points to Luffy leaving the alliance behind, trusting them to beat Jack and going after Sanji. At least it's completely believable plot line.
Asking the Minks to properly defend their land when they are weakened. Completely believable from Luffy's part, especially after seeing Wanda crying about it and literally saying that he wants to send Jack flying.
Also, do you really think it's believable for Pekoms to leave his homeland while the guy that destroyed in the first place is right there? Pekoms himself is not really motivated to bring Luffy with him just so that he can cause potential trouble with his crew.
Look, I dunno why exactly you want Luffy to leave, but you should know by now what kind of person Luffy is.
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i think people are predicting that luffy will not fight jack more because they want zoro to do it more than luffy actually having reasons to leave everyone behind
also,as things are now,nothing says we are going to get a physical confrontation…there's a fleet or ships that it's going to try to sink the entire island..way before there are actually 1 vs 1 fights,they have to try and stop this,and if they do..there's a possiblity that jack might be forced to retire (although it would be the second time in a very short time)
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Good bridge chapter, looks like we'll get a Jack fight after all.
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I call it first as usual…
Luffy will still go to BIG MUM's place with Pekom.
And if not Zoro alone, Zoro + Law + RAIZOU are going to destroy Jack. and restrain him with sea prism stone and propose to kaido a trade! his ponegliph for the life of his comrade.
Don't you forget that Jack is already weakened and being cheated by his crew that aren't able to tell the truth for the sake of their lives
Or, Zou' The moving island could use his trunk n' dump a huge amount of water and destroy all these ships at once.
Ore wa LUFFY !! Kaizoku-ō ni naru otoko da!
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Contrary to what most people seem to think here, my guess is that Inu and Neko will be the ones to take down Jack. They are weakened, yes, but Inuarashi did mention a trump card in this chapter. We don't know what it is, but he sounded very confident about it. Plus, this time they will both fight together. And another plot-reason: they're the ones who have a real reason to take revange on Jack.
Of course Luffy WANTS to fight Jack. He even said he would. But what I think will happen is that Inu and Neko will ask Luffy to step aside on this one. He'll be there watching in case they need him, but they won't. Luffy is the main character and seeing him take down bastards is always epic. But in this case, seeing Inu and Neko doing it will be way more epic. -
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Contrary to what most people seem to think here, my guess is that Inu and Neko will be the ones to take down Jack. They are weakened, yes, but Inuarashi did mention a trump card in this chapter. We don't know what it is, but he sounded very confident about it. Plus, this time they will both fight together. And another plot-reason: they're the ones who have a real reason to take revange on Jack.
Of course Luffy WANTS to fight Jack. He even said he would. But what I think will happen is that Inu and Neko will ask Luffy to step aside on this one. He'll be there watching in case they need him, but they won't. Luffy is the main character and seeing him take down bastards is always epic. But in this case, seeing Inu and Neko doing it will be way more epic.I want to see Raizo and the samurai be instrumental in Jack's defeat, both to prove themselves a worthy addition to the alliance and because they'll feel honor bound to try anyway.
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I suppose last chapter should have said it all but looks like we'll get the separation arc characters for cover pages which is great. I like how Franky outfitted that lion to look like Sunny and the gorilla to look like him. That lion looks like that fire lion from Pokemon. Or maybe that gorilla was his prototype and once he got all the kinks out applied it to himself? That snow waiver looking thing, it probably originated with the locals but I wonder if Franky has anything to do with that one as well? The snake has been outfitted to look like an eastern dragon, wonder what was Franky's inspiration there? I really like how the slim eye piece/visor is basically a requirement for these cyborg animals.
I know last week people wondered why Robin wasn't being targeted more often by big players for Poneglyph deciphering and after learning what we did in last chapter it seemed obvious to me that was exactly why they were after Momonosuke and his men.
I see a female ninja in Kinemon's head! Those guys look just detailed enough to end up as real named characters that might have designs that are more or less finalized.
I teared up for Momo, I laughed at Law, but the best part was Luffy saying Sanji was worth a thousand people and Zoro not being able to let that stand, hahaha!
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯
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@Helter:
Contrary to what most people seem to think here, my guess is that Inu and Neko will be the ones to take down Jack. They are weakened, yes, but Inuarashi did mention a trump card in this chapter. We don't know what it is, but he sounded very confident about it. Plus, this time they will both fight together. And another plot-reason: they're the ones who have a real reason to take revange on Jack.
Of course Luffy WANTS to fight Jack. He even said he would. But what I think will happen is that Inu and Neko will ask Luffy to step aside on this one. He'll be there watching in case they need him, but they won't. Luffy is the main character and seeing him take down bastards is always epic. But in this case, seeing Inu and Neko doing it will be way more epic.This would be fine too.
Luffy leaving Zou during a battle that could decide the country's fate, however, would be crazy.
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@Helter:
Contrary to what most people seem to think here, my guess is that Inu and Neko will be the ones to take down Jack. They are weakened, yes, but Inuarashi did mention a trump card in this chapter. We don't know what it is, but he sounded very confident about it. Plus, this time they will both fight together. And another plot-reason: they're the ones who have a real reason to take revange on Jack.
Of course Luffy WANTS to fight Jack. He even said he would. But what I think will happen is that Inu and Neko will ask Luffy to step aside on this one. He'll be there watching in case they need him, but they won't. Luffy is the main character and seeing him take down bastards is always epic. But in this case, seeing Inu and Neko doing it will be way more epic.I would actually be totally okay with this, too. You're right, that'd be awesome. Still better than the idea that it'll be Zoro vs. Jack because Luffy's just gonna ditch everybody and leave. Like, no.
EDIT: Okay, wow, King Cannon said almost exactly the same thing. Ninja'd! :ninja:
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Contrary to what most people seem to think here, my guess is that Inu and Neko will be the ones to take down Jack. They are weakened, yes, but Inuarashi did mention a trump card in this chapter. We don't know what it is, but he sounded very confident about it. Plus, this time they will both fight together. And another plot-reason: they're the ones who have a real reason to take revange on Jack.
Of course Luffy WANTS to fight Jack. He even said he would. But what I think will happen is that Inu and Neko will ask Luffy to step aside on this one. He'll be there watching in case they need him, but they won't. Luffy is the main character and seeing him take down bastards is always epic. But in this case, seeing Inu and Neko doing it will be way more epic.bump,would love to see this.it-s the oda way of things…
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Luffy sees this dog girl who quickly befriended him cry about the horrors Jack caused. Then he parties with the locals, including their amputee leaders who are friends with Shanks and the Samurai.
"They should be fine", then he leaves.
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The others got this one. I think Luffy, Pekoms, Bepo, Raizou, Nami, and Franky are gonna leave and go ahead to Big Mam to extract Sanji. They will just reunite with the others in Wano.
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Stop believing that they year of Sanji means that Sanji needs to be a constant presence. Regardless if Luffy leaves or not, the fight against Jack would still have to be shown anyway.
Luffy leaving or not means Sanji loses the spotlight anyway. So yeah, this whole argument doesn't work.
not if this fight gets offscreened for now until further notice, plenty of scenarios for that
You're completely missing the point. Jack is a man that can destroy countries.
The first time Jack came, Zou was left in terrible shape with its strongest warriors being left amputated. You really think Luffy, knowing all this, would leave his crew and his Samurai and Mink friends behind?"again he could entrust law zoro and the rest to deal with him !
A "couple of his followers" is very vague.
Law's crew fought in the last battle and didn't make much of a difference, the Straw Hat crew is missing one of their key fighters and most Minks are still injured. And if Jack manages to kill that elephant, how many more minks would go down in one go.i feel like repeating myself at this point but you have law zoro and most of the strawhats fully healthy against a bandaged Jack he's obviously in the disadvantage
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again he could entrust law zoro and the rest to deal with him !
i feel like repeating myself at this point but you have law zoro and most of the strawhats fully healthy against a bandaged Jack he's obviously in the disadvantage
and how you think luffy alone can beat him but the others cann't is beyond meThis trust argument is completely terrible.
If Luffy is strong enough to make a difference, then he has no reason to go away. How many lives could be saved if he stayed? Will he really leave when Zou could have the most help they could?
What about Jack's gas weapons? You would think Luffy, who is immune to poison, would be a great asset to have there as well.
Entrusting Zoro/Law/Samurai to defeat Jack is one thing, but entrusting them to protect every living being on Zou is another. This is not about trust, but fighting for others.
This is not like Pica, who was just one of the people working for the man who was destroying Dressrosa.
Really, stop thinking of this as just beating Jack and more as defending Zou. Luffy wanted to beat Doula Mongo to protect Dressrosa. It was the same for Hody Jones and Fishman Island.
If this was Wano and Kaidou was in the vicinity, then it would be understandable for Luffy to leave Jack to someone else, but this is not the case.
