@Kaido:
The panel listing the Kid Alliance being at odds with Kaido is interesting… Kinda guess things didn't go well for them
None of them seem to be the submissive types, so a conflict was the most foreseeable outcome of their latest scene.
@Kaido:
The panel listing the Kid Alliance being at odds with Kaido is interesting… Kinda guess things didn't go well for them
None of them seem to be the submissive types, so a conflict was the most foreseeable outcome of their latest scene.
@Kaido:
The panel listing the Kid Alliance being at odds with Kaido is interesting… Kinda guess things didn't go well for them
If I have to take a logic answer, it would be "Made contact with".
If I have to take a logic answer, it would be "Made contact with".
No, the word linking them translates directly to "in battle"/"at war with"; there's no ambiguity about it.
No, the word linking them translates directly to "in battle"/"at war with"; there's no ambiguity about it.
You make contact when you battle with it.
Anyway it doesn't say anything about submission or something.
Maybe Kaido stood up and left, sad because he survived that fall, while Kidd yells at him, telling him that he will pay for destroying his base. Hawkins / Killer stop(s) him from going after the Emperor.
Kidd says that they will change target and "go after that damn bastard".
Maybe Kaido stood up and left, sad because he survived that fall, while Kidd yells at him, telling him that he will pay for destroying his base. Hawkins / Killer stop(s) him from going after the Emperor.
Kidd says that they will change target and "go after that damn bastard".
I really hope that doesn't happen.
@jabso:
I really hope that doesn't happen.
Quite honestly, I would rather see that happen than a fight.
The hype put aside, what would a direct confrontation between the KHA Alliance and Kaido add to the story ? Either the emperor or the SN would finish severely injured after that hypothetical fight. Besides, if it were to be shown, we would see both of their limits way too early.
In the end, KHA would seek for revenge* (if they didn't end up dead), and so would change target anyway.
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Looking how Jack likes to cut the limbs of his enemies, wonder if he's behind Kid's lost arm, since he was there for 2 years and he had encounters with yonkos before, maybe jack too?
Quite honestly, I would rather see that happen than a fight.
The hype put aside, what would a direct confrontation between the KHA Alliance and Kaido add to the story ? Either the emperor or the SN would finish severely injured after that hypothetical fight. Besides, if it were to be shown, we would see both of their limits way too early.
In the end, KHA would seek for revenge* (if they didn't end up dead), and so would change target anyway.
- because, let's face it, there's no way Kaido would lose.
It's not like Kaido went there to fight, it was simply a coincidence that he fell in that place. And from KHA side, they are not Luffy, they know better than to simply throw themselves over a Yonkou unprepared just because they crossed paths.
I can see Kaido simply walking away, and that's it. It would be cool if KHA, being on the presence of a Yonkou, suddenly realized how much they still have to grow before they can even dream of challenging one of them. That way Kaido would have broken their resolve/defeated them by simply passing by and not even giving them a look.
@.access:
It's not like Kaido went there to fight, it was simply a coincidence that he fell in that place. And from KHA side, they are not Luffy, they know better than to simply throw themselves over a Yonkou unprepared just because they crossed paths.
I can see Kaido simply walking away, and that's it. It would be cool if KHA, being on the presence of a Yonkou, suddenly realized how much they still have to grow before they can even dream of challenging one of them. That way Kaido would have broken their resolve/defeated them by simply passing by and not even giving them a look.
I don't think Oda made that encounter with 4 supernovas vs 1 yonkou just so they can ignore them and walk away, not much point in that. I think the difference is way smaller now then it was 2 years ago between admiral and supernovas but they still put up a fight back then. And they could make it 5 supernovas since Urouge is above them….
@uniaka:
I don't think Oda made that encounter with 4 supernovas vs 1 yonkou just so they can ignore them and walk away, not much point in that. I think the difference is way smaller now then it was 2 years ago between admiral and supernovas but they still put up a fight back then. And they could make it 5 supernovas since Urouge is above them….
We don't know what happened before Marineford between Kaidou and Shanks but I think it's interesting that the ones that have a chance encounter with Kaidou happen to be the alliance targeting Shanks. I found it strange that Oda didn't resolve this seeing 2 yonkous apparantly clashed right before marineford and nobody found it noteworthy enough to tell us about this but it seems we might get the answer because it's tied to KHA alliance…
@uniaka:
Looking how Jack likes to cut the limbs of his enemies, wonder if he's behind Kid's lost arm, since he was there for 2 years and he had encounters with yonkos before, maybe jack too?
Kidd seems like the person that would hold grudges…if it was Jack then I bet the Yonkou he wants to take down would have been Kaido.
Maybe Shanks sword that cut his arm?
Kidd: I don't fight 1 armed swordsmen
Shanks: Lets even the odds then
I am kind of excited for Shanks vs KHA alliance, as long as Shanks doesn't die lol
Was watching that episode of Dragon ball GT (Goku vs Omega Shenron) and some character from some planet had The strawhat on! :D Next Nakama? Kidding lmfao…
but How ironic.. I'm pretty sure someone already noticed this before...
@DEE:
Was watching that episode of Dragon ball GT (Goku vs Omega Shenron) and some character from some planet had The strawhat on! :D Next Nakama? Kidding lmfao…
but How ironic.. I'm pretty sure someone already noticed this before...
http://i64.tinypic.com/23hulxf.png
You know, that episode aired (November 12, 1997) after the One Piece manga began (July 19, 1997). Hmm…...
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It doesn't have to be a US based, as long as it is a visa or mastercard no problem. Go with the amazon alternative if you don't feel comfortable about it.
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The "amazon alternative" has the print volumes. I want the digital ones. Please answer my questions here:
http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=33903&page=124&p=3577490#post3577490
Quite honestly, I would rather see that happen than a fight.
The hype put aside, what would a direct confrontation between the KHA Alliance and Kaido add to the story ? Either the emperor or the SN would finish severely injured after that hypothetical fight. Besides, if it were to be shown, we would see both of their limits way too early.
In the end, KHA would seek for revenge* (if they didn't end up dead), and so would change target anyway.
- because, let's face it, there's no way Kaido would lose.
Yeah that's true but what I don't want is the eventually strawhats vs kaido pirates to be a completely overcrowded affair. I assume this "war" kaido is talking about may happen at the end of the series but not vs luffy and crew. The strawhat alliance may already be involved so adding the KHA alliance feels just unnecessary to me.
I hope we get a super early spoiler even if its just few lines or pages. IRL time is going fast but been it feels like its been ages since last chapter.
Now that you mention, this chapter is important for sure. Why the heck did Sanji leave and why with Big mom pirates… There's is something important we don't know about this. And no, I don't think BM pirates offered Sanji a cook position in her crew and he said yes....
Aldo the biggest mystery of Zou, even bigger then the location of Raizou, who the heck kicked Bariete out of Zou ?
We know that Sanji knows her, but does he also know about her appearance?
We know that Sanji knows her, but does he also know about her appearance?
Nope. Sanji specifically imagined her as a cute little women.
Nope. Sanji specifically imagined her as a cute little women.
The Year of Sanji will begin with a Rude Awakening.
Does Sanji protect women who are not attractive ?
Does Sanji protect women who are not attractive ?
I think it counts long as they're female. He was prepared to protect Dr Kureha in Drum, for example.
I think it counts long as they're female. He was prepared to protect Dr Kureha in Drum, for example.
She was a butterface…so maybe Sanji gave her a pass and they really needed a doctor
She was a butterface…so maybe Sanji gave her a pass and they really needed a doctor
Nah, I've never seen anything from Sanji that suggests he only cares about pretty women vs any women. He might care MORE about pretty women, but being female comes first. I can't remember for sure but I recall him looking out for Kokoro and Chimney during the Enies Lobby escape.
@Kaido:
The panel listing the Kid Alliance being at odds with Kaido is interesting… Kinda guess things didn't go well for them
Which panel?
@Bartholemew:
Which panel?
http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=43450&p=3576168&viewfull=1#post3576168
Thanks for the high quality image! Here's a rough translation:
Kaido and Doflamingo had business dealings.
Law and Doflamingo are connected by fate.
Law/Luffy crushed Doflamingo.
Law/Luffy targeting Kaido.
Drake is under the umbrella (?) of Kaido. (Note the question mark).
Luffy has respect/promise towards Shanks.
Luffy and Big Mom are antagonistic towards each other.
Capone is under the umbrella of Big Mom.
Kid/Apoo/Hawkins targeting Shanks.
Kid/Apoo/Hawkins battled/at war/hostile towards Kaido.
Weevil targeting Blackbeard.
Kuzan collaborating with Blackbeard? (Note the question mark).
Kuzan and Sakazuki are antagonistic towards each other.
Sakazuki hunting/searching for Bonney.
Blackbeard heading to Rev. HQ? (Note the question mark).
Anyone remembers the scene of Sanji pointing a gun at Robin's head? Was that scene ever explained in SBS or something?
Anyone remembers the scene of Sanji pointing a gun at Robin's head? Was that scene ever explained in SBS or something?
Didn't he not know Robin was a woman until he got slapped down to the lower deck and was then able to see her face?
Didn't he not know Robin was a woman until he got slapped down to the lower deck and was then able to see her face?
I just read it. He was fully aware that Robin was a woman.
Anyone remembers the scene of Sanji pointing a gun at Robin's head? Was that scene ever explained in SBS or something?
well he wasn't actually hurting her in any way,so it's not against sanji's character
There was a reason for why he didn't shot her.
Does Sanji protect women who are not attractive ?
His zombie protected warthog Lola with his life. Sanji will protect any women.
Anyone remembers the scene of Sanji pointing a gun at Robin's head? Was that scene ever explained in SBS or something?
Didn't he not know Robin was a woman until he got slapped down to the lower deck and was then able to see her face?
I'm pretty sure this was the case. Of course he probably could have just listened to her voice first but it wasn't until he noticed that he went all lovy dovy.
Even if that isn't how it went down Sanji isn't against threatening a woman with a bluff. Against Kalifa, Sanji threw attacks at her that would have been serious blows. Of course he wouldn't actually strike her in hopes that she would have just given up. So Sanji pointing a gun at woman in most any context isn't any contradiction to his character.
As long as it's not an okama, he'll protect any woman.
He truly is a prince. :wub:
@.access:
Even guessing at paramecia awakening is hard right now. Diamante's fruit allow him to change objects into a fluttering state, Gladius' fruit allow him to explode objects as well, not to mention even more problematic cases like Sugar and Jora… so an awakened paramecia affecting things other than the user's body wouldn't make sense in their case since their fruit already do that.
Late reply, but it wouldn't be hard to think about what they Awakening would be following Doula's logic.
Diamante, Gladius and Sugar affect other things by touch. So, by Doula Mongo logic, their Awakenings would allow them to do the same, but without touch.
Essentially, psychic fluttering/bursting/toymaking.
And Jora, whose body creates clouds that turn people into art, would be able to produce art clouds from the surrounding environment, not unlike Doula's Awakened strings.
Every Devil Fruit changes the body of a character in different ways. Even the ones like Magellan, Galdino and even Foxy and Hancock, who all produce substances/rays, do it through their bodies. Simply apply that logic to the surrounding area instead of their bodies.
Magellan: Turns surroundings into poison.
Galdino: Turns nearby objects into wax, which he can control.
Foxy/Hancock: Turns an entire area into a slow down/petrification zone.
Essentially, allow the environment to do what their bodies can.
I just read it. He was fully aware that Robin was a woman.
No, there’s no indication of that. During the scene, after Usopp and Sanji point there weapons at her, Usopp asks if Sanji is aware of what he is doing and Sanji responds to the effect of “No…but somehow it seems my beloved Ms. Wednesday was in danger”. It seemed like Sanji wasn’t fully aware of the situation and acted on instinct due to Vivi yelling out in dismay towards her enemy. Or maybe you’re looking at a different translation…
As long as it's not an okama, he'll protect any woman.
He truly is a prince. :wub:
Isn't he ? fangirl intensifies
I see Sanji's reaction as a simple "bluff". He would never pull the trigger.
Weevil targeting Blackbeard.
Wait, didn't Weevil target Strawhats? Sure, he wanted to target BB, but then his momma… ehm... he decided differently.
No, there’s no indication of that. During the scene, after Usopp and Sanji point there weapons at her, Usopp asks if Sanji is aware of what he is doing and Sanji responds to the effect of “No…but somehow it seems my beloved Ms. Wednesday was in danger”. It seemed like Sanji wasn’t fully aware of the situation and acted on instinct due to Vivi yelling out in dismay towards her enemy. Or maybe you’re looking at a different translation…
The translation I'm looking at says "…this woman's a threat to my lovely Miss Wednesday." Usopp's question is of the style "Do you know what the hell is going on? Because I don't," since neither he nor Sanji has had the full situation explained to them yet. They aren't even outside until that moment. All Sanji and Usopp know is that the rest of the crew is acting very tense towards this intruder.
So basically, Sanji knew what he was doing, he just didn't know the reason she was there or what the full situation was. I'm pretty sure he was bluffing (subconsciously or not) and taking cues from Luffy and Nami. Helps that he hadn't gotten a good look at Robin yet, though.
Weevil said that he wanted to kill BB for what he did to his daddy.
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But Ms. Bakkin replies that he wouldn't get "1 berry out of it [him]"
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Then, he decides to go after Luffy because he probably knows where Marco is heading (though it really isn't the case).
By the way. This sentence :"Garp's Grandson" could implie that Bakkin knows Garp. Maybe she dislikes him for some reason.
By the way. This sentence :"Garp's Grandson" could implie that Bakkin knows Garp. Maybe she dislikes him for some reason.
All old people know each other. Don't you know that?
@Bartholemew:
Wait, didn't Weevil target Strawhats? Sure, he wanted to target BB, but then his momma… ehm... he decided differently.
I translated what was on the image. I'd say that all the page's arrow links have more to do with big-picture motivations and conflicts in the story. Sure, for now Weevil is on the search for Luffy to dig info on Marco's location (to please his beloved mother), but his higher motivation lies in avenging Whitebeard.
The translation I'm looking at says "…this woman's a threat to my lovely Miss Wednesday." Usopp's question is of the style "Do you know what the hell is going on? Because I don't," since neither he nor Sanji has had the full situation explained to them yet. They aren't even outside until that moment. All Sanji and Usopp know is that the rest of the crew is acting very tense towards this intruder.
So basically, Sanji knew what he was doing, he just didn't know the reason she was there or what the full situation was. I'm pretty sure he was bluffing (subconsciously or not) and taking cues from Luffy and Nami. Helps that he hadn't gotten a good look at Robin yet, though.
And where did this translation come from? An online scanlation? Because I tend to find those have notable mistakes/inaccuracies. So heres the original page:
Sanji's dialogue goes like this "「いや・・・何となく・・・愛しのミス・ウェンズデーの身の危険かと・・・!」 ".
Now, I'm not a master of the Japanese language, but I believe this line is more similar to the translation I posted and doesn't directly acknowledge that Sanji is aware his enemy is a woman, just that he believed Miss Wednesday was in danger. But, again, I don't have the greatest understanding of Japanese so I'll wait to be corrected.
All old people know each other. Don't you know that?
http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpzhjaUNft1qjf835o1_500.gif
I still have a lot to learn…
And where did this translation come from? An online scanlation? Because I tend to find those have notable mistakes/inaccuracies. So heres the original page:
http://blog-imgs-54.fc2.com/m/a/k/makazuki/201208201847203c1.jpgSanji's dialogue goes like this "「いや・・・何となく・・・愛しのミス・ウェンズデーの身の危険かと・・・!」 ".
Now, I'm not a master of the Japanese language, but I believe this line is more similar to the translation I posted and doesn't directly acknowledge that Sanji is aware his enemy is a woman, just that he believed Miss Wednesday was in danger. But, again, I don't have the greatest understanding of Japanese so I'll wait to be corrected.
The Viz version says "Not really. But it looked like… my beloved Ms. Wednesday was in danger!"
With that said though, I don't see a reason to think that Sanji didn't notice that she was a woman. It'd be kind of hard not to.
These Chinese based Light Novels and "Manhuas/Mangas" are blowing away the Japanese stuff. The exception being Kekkaishi and very few others. I really admired the story Oda was telling until I started reading stuff that was much higher quality Like Tower Of God, Coiling Dragon, Tales of Demons and Gods and many other stories. I never really enjoyed Odas humor and never liked Ussop.
Oda really is quite bad in comparison to the top South Korean and Chinese Authors. The stories on WuxiaWorld completely blow One Piece out of the water.
Japan can't stay on top peddling out this low quality stuff. At least when South Korean and Chinese characters are trolling/ joking around, it is actually funny and not creepy at all. Japanese humor is pedophilia or borderline pedophilia and also just plain stupid and ruins the story because it is so low quality humor, mortifying ,and often times disgusting. I don't think Oda is capable of saying anything funny. All Odas jokes with Luffy have already been done by Goku and Naruto and they were not funny then and they definitely are not funny now. Yes, I know Naruto didnt come before Luffy.
Not only is the Japanese stuff low Quality, it is not even produced at a fast pace.
Plus Japan has done a piss poor job marketing its stuff globally. People are begging to hand them money and they are too xenophobic to take the money and market it. Xenophobia is the only reason I can think of as too why the Japanese people have not monetized their product.
The most frustrating part is that 4 years have passed in real life, less than a few days have passed in the manga.
I am a white American living in the South East and I don't hate Japan at all. Just saying they need to seriously step up their game.