! Yet its a bit silly that Deku is now, in a life or death situation, using his power in such a conservative manner when he didnt bothered breaking all his bones for a damn school tournament.
! After all Stain is strong but not superhuman levels strong. A fully loaded punch by Deku would nail him to the wall and Deku already had quite a few chances to do so.
My Hero Academia - Gomu Gomu no Gentle Fist
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! Yet its a bit silly that Deku is now, in a life or death situation, using his power in such a conservative manner when he didnt bothered breaking all his bones for a damn school tournament.
! After all Stain is strong but not superhuman levels strong. A fully loaded punch by Deku would nail him to the wall and Deku already had quite a few chances to do so.I was under the impression that Deku's body could only handle 5% at this time and that it was his concentration of that power into one area that could shatter the bones there. By circulating the power he doesn't hurt himself but still delivers a similar force.
On another level, Deku's subconscious prevents him from using the full power on another person out of concern for killing them.
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There are two possible explanations, Deku is holding back because he doesnt want to kill Stain ( I dont think he would die so easily anyway) or he cant do full power swings when he is using one for all for a speed boost.
Even so he had several chances to take Stain by surprise without need for fast attacks.
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I think Deku's using 5% power to boost himself. The hits he's landing on Stain are equivalent to the landed on Todoroki back then.
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! I think Deku just doesn't want to break all his bones again. You all heard Recovery Girl.
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! Not only that. If he uses his full power, breaking his bones in the process, but miss the attack, then he would become a burden for the rest of the combat.
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Yeah, it was that everyone with quirks are missing a bone on their pinky toe or something
oh yeah i forgot about that….my dreams are shatered
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Chapter 54 Chinese scan: http://www.ishuhui.com/archives/374417
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! Yet its a bit silly that Deku is now, in a life or death situation, using his power in such a conservative manner when he didnt bothered breaking all his bones for a damn school tournament.
! After all Stain is strong but not superhuman levels strong. A fully loaded punch by Deku would nail him to the wall and Deku already had quite a few chances to do so.But when he does go all out it is a all or nothing. He can't afford that against Stain. Especially when he also have to worry to not accidentally kill him. With a broken leg or man he become a liability against Stain. And if he use OFA at 100% he kills Stain(and is uncertain to hit).
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! Not only that. If he uses his full power, breaking his bones in the process, but miss the attack, then he would become a burden for the rest of the combat.
The whole point of this arc was for him to learn to control his powers, since everyone has told him the going all out is something that he can no longer afford to do. If he were to use it, then it would've been pointless for him to learn to control it just a few chapters ago.
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The problem here is that his new punches cant even scratch Stain, who is fast and skilled but just a regular human at physical levels.
Deku isnt turning to the infirmary after every punch but he is not managing much either. Maybe my issue here is that the new way to manage his quirk was too hyped and it turned out he is sacrificing too much strenght for it.
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If deku breaks his arm here and stain survives, is game over for him, period. The pain and handicap of the move is too great against someone that fast.
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Deku isnt turning to the infirmary after every punch but he is not managing much either. Maybe my issue here is that the new way to manage his quirk was too hyped and it turned out he is sacrificing too much strenght for it.
"Hyped" by Deku himself, maybe, but I wasn't under the impression that he'd suddenly start OHKO'ing supervillains.
What he was doing before obviously wasn't working, so he got inspired by taiyaki and course-corrected. I wouldn't be surprised if, once this fight is over, he thinks to himself, "Full Cloak gives me awesome mobility and lastability, but now I've got to work on beating that 5% benchmark!" Then starts gradual strength-training, with ever-increasingly impressive feats each arc. Zoro-lifiting-Alabasta-building level at 45%. Calling it.This is the level he "should" have started at, Quirk-growth-wise. Just took him a while to get to it.
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"Hyped" by Deku himself, maybe, but I wasn't under the impression that he'd suddenly start OHKO'ing supervillains.
What he was doing before obviously wasn't working, so he got inspired by taiyaki and course-corrected. I wouldn't be surprised if, once this fight is over, he thinks to himself, "Full Cloak gives me awesome mobility and lastability, but now I've got to work on beating that 5% benchmark!" Then starts gradual strength-training, with ever-increasingly impressive feats each arc. Zoro-lifiting-Alabasta-building level at 45%. Calling it.This is the level he "should" have started at, Quirk-growth-wise. Just took him a while to get to it.
agreed. We've also seen that hes learning and picking up moves from the rest of his class so he'll be able to do more with that 5% than he could with all or nothing
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Iida saving Todoroki's neck twice was good enough.
And Shouto, sometimes you pick the most random words. -
one punch & one kick are not enough! hit that bastard mooooooorrrrrrre
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The character development in this series, though. <3
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Awesome chapter.
Iida completely redeemed himself(so badass how he broke Stain sword with a kick)., and what a godlike combo at the end with Iida kicking Stain in the gut and Deku punching him in the face -
Why is this series so good? It's got fantastic, unique art, great character development, and kickass action. Really good chapter, maybe an A-.
Little Iida is adorably disturbing.
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Horikoshi so good he has developing multiple characters at once.
Next chapter is probably the end of the fight.
Dekus legs were shaking before he got to use OFA again, Iida will probably done after that kick to the gut he gave to Stain, his Engine is roasted and both his arms are injured.
Only Todoroki is still in shape
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The fighting action felt a little off, but with such a great conclusion I can't complain.
Loving how much Deku's fighting style reminds me of a certain rabbit. If he starts hitting people with V signs I'm gonna scream.
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Funny how he can cut the ice but not I&F's arm. The fight is fine and I got to say I still agree with Stain judgement on Iida character.
That punch should take him out or seriously damage him.
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Funny how he can cut the ice but not I&F's arm. The fight is fine and I got to say I still agree with Stain judgement on Iida character.
That punch should take him out or seriously damage him.
The important thing in this encounter is that Ida also agrees with Stains assessment.
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yeah agreed with above
itll be funny when they go back to class and hes praising theses guys as true heroes and they dont like that attention
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Love one the best fights in the series is happening in an alley. Getting a street-level Marvel superhero vibe.
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The important thing in this encounter is that Ida also agrees with Stains assessment.
i remember when people were upset because Iida didn't stay a static character
I like this a lot more.
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This manga!
Quirks are still a relatively recent thing by my understand. There haven't been many "ages" since Quirks developed.
Deku's generation is the fifth to have quirks, which appeared in the 21st Century. If we take a "generation" as about 30 years, that means about 150 years have passed since then – MHA takes place in the 22nd Century (fitting with the advanced technology we see, like robots with basic AI). We've integrated things like electricity, computers, the airplane, and the internet into our society in far less time.
Though this has gotten me wondering something: how powerful were the first users of One For All in this situation? Also, is it possible OFA was one of the first Quirks to show up?
OFA seems to work like the Avatar State from Avatar: The Last Airbender/The Legend of Korra. The first user gets a strong power boost, but it gets stronger each iteration.
There have been 9 or 10 users of OFA, but that does not jive with the 5 generations number. Either OFA users have died quite often, or, more interestingly, OFA is older than it seems.
One theory I'm fond of is that quirks existed once before, in ancient times, forming the basis for modern mythologies. If OFA started then, the first user was probably someone like Heracles or Beowulf (or both). This raises the question of why quirks vanished – but we don't know why quirks appeared, either.
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The important thing in this encounter is that Ida also agrees with Stains assessment.
But you cant really blame Iida for thinking like that. After all he lives in a society were being a hero is a stablished business. Focusing on fame and money is what more heroes are after in this manga, including most of Deku's classmates.
If anything characters like Deku and All Might (old school mentality superheroes) seem to be the exception.
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So I finally checked this out to see what all the fuss is about. First chapter was eh, and the art was an overall mess and hard to follow. I'd have to read more to see if this is worth it.
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So I finally checked this out to see what all the fuss is about. First chapter was eh, and the art was an overall mess and hard to follow. I'd have to read more to see if this is worth it.
Try getting a few more chapters in. The protagonist is intentionally kind of bland but a lot of the other characters are pretty great, and the series has consistently gotten better over time. I'd say try reading the first eight or so chapters before deciding against it.
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One theory I'm fond of is that quirks existed once before, in ancient times, forming the basis for modern mythologies. If OFA started then, the first user was probably someone like Heracles or Beowulf (or both). This raises the question of why quirks vanished – but we don't know why quirks appeared, either.
Wow, now I really want to see OFA Beowulf ripping off Grendel's arms in this art style.
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Historical figures with superpowers would be awesome. I've always felt quirks being a recent thing is kind of wasting potential because of that - at least from what I got.
The definition of heroes has changed a lot as time has gone on, I feel like that would be an interesting thing, too.
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So I finally checked this out to see what all the fuss is about. First chapter was eh, and the art was an overall mess and hard to follow. I'd have to read more to see if this is worth it.
It´s pretty fast-paced, so it makes for a good read weekly. It´s not that special though.
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So I finally checked this out to see what all the fuss is about. First chapter was eh, and the art was an overall mess and hard to follow. I'd have to read more to see if this is worth it.
Try getting a few more chapters in. The protagonist is intentionally kind of bland but a lot of the other characters are pretty great, and the series has consistently gotten better over time. I'd say try reading the first eight or so chapters before deciding against.
I'd say 8 chapters might still not be enough. I'm also someone who's been very slow in really getting into this manga, and I'd say right now is when things are good for real. Not even the tournament did it for me, but right now I'd say it's totally wor it.
For example, action scenes now and then are like night and day. The current fight alone blows the rest of the series' action combined out of the water. So, yeah, if you really wanna get to the great stuff, it might take more than just 8 chapters.
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It´s pretty fast-paced, so it makes for a good read weekly. It´s not that special though.
The main reason MHA is so popular is because it's the most refreshing battle shounens in a while.
Izuku is a nerd protagonist. Unlike wimpy shounen protags who seem to stay wimps forever, or hot-blooded shounen protags who seem to start out great, Deku actually grows into the skilled and confident stage. Given that most readers of manga are nerds themselves, often with little self-confidence, Deku is inspiring. As an aside, people have complained Deku got help from the outside from All Might, but just as in real life, you can only ascend by being given things from others – the series regularly acknowledges this.
Beyond that base reason, MHA pulls off the quirks themselves very well -- they work in a Jojo or One Piece fashion, being extended via intelligent use. Even One for All is learned by Izuku by both thinking and practising, rather than the DBZ-style training that you find in stuff like Naruto and Bleach.
The character designs are well done, especially the female characters, who have fairly realistic and varied anatomy; built like fighters instead of stereotypes. Like, there's a bit where Yaoyorozu kneels down with her midriff exposed -- it's realistically drawn as having a bunch of compressed fat, as a trained fighter rather than a body-builder would. That's why so many of the female characters are popular in the fandom; they aren't generic. Even Todoroki's sister is popular, despite the fact that we know nothing about her.
There's more than that, but that's the main things that make this manga popular. It may not be great in an "objective" sense, but it's battle shounen refined, cliches and all.
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The second chapter training montage was glorious.
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The art really does it for me, it's just so different and refreshing than what you mostly see now in regular shounen action. I felt the same way about Berserk and One Piece's art style when I saw them for the first time, totally different and odd in the best way possible.
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My Hero Academia is absolutely nothing new. The super hero school setting, the super powers, the characters, but it's all excellently executed.
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The art really does it for me, it's just so different and refreshing than what you mostly see now in regular shounen action. I felt the same way about Berserk and One Piece's art style when I saw them for the first time, totally different and odd in the best way possible.
I've long felt it's more important to be unique than it is to be original.
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I've long felt it's more important to be unique than it is to be original.
Nothing is really original nowadays.
Or, to be more specific, it's really hard to be original and successful nowadays.
Like you said, doing an unique take on an unoriginal concept seems like to be the best thing. It's all about the execution.
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Think of it as being like food. Everything is based on a small set of flavors, but you can create a lot of things by varying them.
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I've long felt it's more important to be unique than it is to be original.
There are exceptions to this though. The first and probably biggest one that comes to my mind, would be Air Gear. The art was crazy awesome, it had the action sequences down pat, the story was also in a way unique and original. The problem happened about half way through the manga where the story became so convoluted, so cumbersome, just overall mediocre, that it was pretty ridiculous to follow and enjoy, and that in my opinion made the art fall just as equally. There has to be mix of both originality and uniqueness. Mangas like Berserk, One Piece, MHA, Bakuman, etc have both if those components. Then of course there's bleach, but that's a whole norther can of worms.
MHA is currently the most energetic-most fun manga I've read recently. The mangaka makes the hero idea we've all seen before into his own and the art style accents it perfectly.
Oh yeah also there's the other exception like one punch man which I also adore, but now I just look like a guy who is super into hero manga. Lolol
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Another thing that I like about MHA – and this is perforce true of all superhero genre work these days, I think -- is its interaction with the traditional shonen and superhero tropes. Some it chooses to follow, but executes well on; some it dances with; and some it just eschews completely. But it's a fairly self-aware manga, and there's a maturity there that I really appreciate. It's a manga that really seems to know what it is and what it wants to be, and that's great.
Not that I don't enjoy the powers, the characters (and their cool, often thoughtful design), the art, and the worldbuilding, but that's all been covered above.
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How Iida stood also reminded me a bit of LR in One Punch Man with the exception of not being Kod.
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BnHA poster from Jump NEXT
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They look like ninja.
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It kinda has that Naruto Chuunin Exam charm to it with a whole cast of people to focus on.
It also takes that whole underdog factor Naruto had and puts a neat refreshing twist on it. The tryhard underdog protagonist is, for once, smart. You'd think that'd be no big deal but this alone makes him so damn fresh.
Instead, the typical hothead is cast as the genius asshole rival.
Then you have snappy and real character development. Like Iida's whole angsty revenge schitck would have been all Sasuke'd up elsewhere, but here he gets over it quickly and in a way that's consistent with his character.
Then you have swift pacing.
Then you have the trendy superhero theme.
Then you have a promising female part of the cast.
Well, I dunno what Bulge or whatever was all about - didn't read it - but this time this author has got himself a winner.
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BnHA poster from Jump NEXT
they look like they're about to take a leap of faith
also, hello new wallpaper :)
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There's actually a danger to the incredibly quick character development in the long run. If their arc is done so quickly, what else are you going to give the character to do? If their flaws are gone so quickly, how can you keep the conflict up?
How it pans out depends on how long the series will eventually be, I guess.
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There's actually a danger to the incredibly quick character development in the long run. If their arc is done so quickly, what else are you going to give the character to do? If their flaws are gone so quickly, how can you keep the conflict up?
How it pans out depends on how long the series will eventually be, I guess.
Character can have different conflicts and their arcs don't simply boil down to fleeting conflicts. Todoroki's journey isn't over yet, for example.