@Hallwacker:
This show is so shit, I don't know why I'm still watching it.
To see if it can get even worse than Guilty Crown, Geass R2 or Mahouka.
@Sander:
Which thread was that?
I think it was the Ange Preview thread, which was - even though it was seperated from the rest of the Fall previews - still longer by a large mile and already caused a few bans.
Speaking of which, Chagan on ANN made an interesting post that summoned up the problems with Ange quite well:
Look, it's really simple.
Cross Ange is rape porn. It's nominally a mecha show, but it is also rape porn.
However, most people don't want to watch a likeable character get raped, even if they want to watch them get raped. Thus, you make the character unlikeable. All of a sudden, now they deserve to be raped! Ah, yes, now you can feel less terrible while you wank off to sexualized violence to female characters!
That's it. I wouldn't mind it so much if the fans just admitted that they're jerking off to rape porn. Like, the show would still be disgusting, utterly nasty, and devoid of any worth, but at least they would be honest.
But even without the sexualized violence, the show delights in the brutal mutilation and murder of women anyway. This show is basically watching girls suffer without anything else to it. I mean, that can be good, Madoka was about girls suffering, but there was a point. Cross Ange is pointless. It's hollow. It's 24 minutes a week of fetishized suffering. We have no reason to care for Ange or hell any of the other characters. Ange is a monumentally stupid girl whose stubborness breaks the suspension of disbelief. The other characters are either too one-note to matter or die too quickly. And why should we care about the Empire? They're virulently racist and endorse military slavery.
So the show is utterly devoid of any sort of point or hook. It fails to give the watcher any other motivation to keep going on besides "watch girls get beaten and murdered sexually".
And even if it weren't pointless, the plot is filled with endless nonsense: Why are Normas so evil? We don't know. Why would you give people whom you violently discriminate against mecha with which they will fight dragons threatening your world? No sane empire would do this. Why was Ange completely ignorant of the fact that she was a Norma? And no, the excuse the shows gives (that she was told that she had no need to use Mana as a member of royalty) is completely nonsensical too: are you telling me that she never tried out using Mana just for shits and giggles once? No. No. I will not let Cross Ange insult me by pushing such ridiculousness as serious storytelling and expecting me to actually believe this crap.
Cross Ange attempts to be serious, but it has the emotional maturity of a 12-year-old boy. It's needlessly dark and trashy, but it's not the good kind of trashy. There's no ridiculous absurdity or feeling that next week's episode is gonna be even more over-the-top like you get in Code Geass or Guilty Crown.
This show is bad. Actually, no. It's not bad. It's fractally bad.
He was subsequently answered with by this (Warning, this is offensive).
This show surely has the fans it deserves… and the sad thing is, I heard it actually does somewhat well in the preorders. If this sells a lot I officially disregard any respect I had left for otaku.