The first episode wasn't amazing but good enough for me. I liked the little change they made to show Chika a little earlier than in the manga.
Since it seems it will not rush through the early "slow" chapters, I unfortunately expect that plenty of people will drop it before it gets really interesting like some did with the manga.
Hopefully, some will keep watching it until at least the introduction of the Tamakoma's Branch and the fight that follows which should start around episode 10 with the current pace before deciding to drop it.
The world is triggered…
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We might get to see that earlier if the next episodes have 2-3 chapters instead of only one. I'm hoping that the anime while not looking the greatest will at least spark more interest into the manga and manages that the old volumes gets more sells and the new volumes get over 150k or even better, though my hopes aren't high for that, 200k sells before dropping out of Oricon.
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If your first episode has less budget than the final NGE episodes, something is wrong…
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What the hell did they put in Kawai's drink to get him to score this?
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If your first episode has less budget than the final NGE episodes, something is wrong…
Looks like most of the budget went to the VAs? :P
Hah, as weak as the first episode was I still have hopes for the later episodes. Maybe they focused their animation budget onto the action scenes meaning that other, more battle-orientated, episodes will have smoother and more fluid looking scenes when they fight the neighbors and trion soldiers. At least it is what I am hoping else the whole invasion arc will become a big disappointment. And that arc will happen if the rabits and many characters in the intro are a hint.It does shows though that WT will surely have 26 episodes else they can't cover all the chapters up to the rabits and the end of the invasion arc. Might also explain why Ashihara had send a not fully finished chapter for chapter 77 as he might have been too busy to talk to the anime studio for how the anime is supposed to end as the arc wasn't finished yet in Jump.
What the hell did they put in Kawai's drink to get him to score this?
Must have been a very expensive drink or drug. Or a whole lot of money. Either way it was costly. XD
Say, did anybody heard about any translation group who might pick up WT where it was left of after its last translation in chapter 55? So far I haven't heard any rumors regarding a group picking it up since the anime started. Is that due Viz having translation rights on it or something? But that doesn't stop people translating Ao no Exorcist for eyample.
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Well, if you speak french, there's a team called "Japan-Shin" which is almost up-to-date (76).
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Well, if you speak french, there's a team called "Japan-Shin" which is almost up-to-date (76).
All I remember from my french lessons are "Je m'apple Christian" and "Voulez vous couchez avec moi?". Not sure if that's sufficent to understand the translations. Thank you for the info though. I might check on them.^^
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If your first episode has less budget than the final NGE episodes, something is wrong…
Is funny because your avatar picture also shows a low budget anime.
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Is funny because your avatar picture also shows a low budget anime.
That was from the bet/guess we had in the HxH thread, though :P
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@James:
Say, did anybody heard about any translation group who might pick up WT where it was left of after its last translation in chapter 55? So far I haven't heard any rumors regarding a group picking it up since the anime started. Is that due Viz having translation rights on it or something? But that doesn't stop people translating Ao no Exorcist for eyample.
Found two translations on Mangahelpers. Here's 56, and here's 57. Since the translator is new, it won't get scanlated until approved by another (more experienced) translator.
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Found two translations on Mangahelpers. Here's 56, and here's 57. Since the translator is new, it won't get scanlated until approved by another (more experienced) translator.
Great! Read them and didn't saw that many faults in them. Hope to see them someday in the translated manga version. <3
Ch.77 + some spoilers I heard from 78
! Didn't found the sketch art so horrible. Have seen worse with HxH and AnE. The fight between Yuuma and Viza is even in that raw form pretty enjoyable. And Miwa together with MiniReplica is fun to see, especially how MiniReplica prevented Miwa losing his leg/mobility. Though Hyurein really is a sneaky bastard with the way he fights with Alektor.^^
! Seems like we are pretty close to the arc ending, especially given that I heard that in 78 Yuuma wins against Viza, Replica returns and protects Osamu from Mira and Miwa vs Hyurein goes into its last phase. Maybe next chapter Osamu dies/survives? Not too many seconds left of to that crossward of future possibilities.More ch.78 raw talk - Praise to the chinese and their quick upload
! Damn, ch.78 was really good! <3
! Starts off ofc with the cut in two Replica. The Rabit attacks Mira, giving Osamu the time to pick up the biggest half of Replica to make a run and hide for it. Miwa's totally pushing Hyruein back, pushing him into the scene of Mira and the black rabit. Bad news for the rabit, as he gets hit by Alektor birds and loses an arm. Replica is still alive (obviously, I mean, hell! If we had lost Replica ALREADY then Yuuma would have lost his "last family member" just like that. If that really had been the case that would have been a major shocker, imo!) and takes out the magneto bits from Hyuse's trigger out of Osamu's arm, so that he can leave unnoticed (I guess so).
! We turn to the Yuuma vs Viza fight (and gosh, does it look great). The whole habitant looks like a bomb has hit it, Ashihara got some great assistants for those backgrounds that's for sure. Viza keeps the one-armed Yuuma at bay and controls the flow of the battle with his national treasure (is that now a black trigger or not?) trigger. Yuuma goes for a straight head-on attack goign through several layers of incredible fast blades cutting everything - madness!
Viza grins as Yuuma passes a couple of his sword with his speed attack but he knows that he can hit Yuuma easily due that kind of mad plan and then WHUP - Yuuma stops midair, Viza's blade cutting the air just half an inch away from Yuuma's throat! Yuuma had prepared an anker symbol beforehand to stop himself to then jsut propell himself again onto Viza who's taken by surprise by this stop and go combo.
Well, that's what you think! He cuts off both of Yuuma's legs but Yuuma doesn't give a shit about having only one arm left as he's still about to hit Viza. And then page 15 happens! Awesome work with the panels there! The upper one is cut in two parts and both parts are displaced a bit and on the lower we see why - Viza had himself cut Yuuma's whole body in half! Viza says couple cool words and Yuuma's trion body explodes!
! But then he shows up in the mist of the explosion, still a trion body active (either that OR Yuuma though Viza with his "real body", as real as that body can be as it is a trion body holding his true dieing body. Hm, bodyception…), Viza in shock, trying to defend but his sword trigger has a heavy bullet in it as Yuuma had put such a symbol on his body as trap, rendering Viza's defense to zero as Yuuma's blow with the ring of his father vanquishes Viza's trion body into dust!
! Wow.
! Man, I would love to see this animated, but I'm just too scared to imagine what Toei would made of those action scenes... -
The second episode adapts chapters 2 and 3. It stayed relatively true to the manga aside from having Chika appear at the school, which turns out to be a good change because now it explains why the neighbors are attacking the school. (attracted to Chika's massive trion) It's also a pretty boring episode since it's just Kuga beating up bullies until the last 2 minutes.
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The latest chapter was awesome. Yuma was so cool in that one. And I can't get tired of Replica's "Only you can make that decision" line.
That invasion arc has been amazing so far.
I've just re-read it and it's just so well written. I'm still expecting Aftorkrator to become allies in the future (Hyuse and Ranbanein don't seem like bad guys to me). I guess we will know for sure when we learn more about their seemingly "desperate" need to send so many black triggers on their invasion.As for the anime, even if it doesn't have outstanding animation, I'm enjoying it because it's really faithful to the original material only adding elements that were hinted but not shown in the manga like Chika being the reason the Neighbors attacked the school.
The problem I can see is that it's almost too faithful and the same way some people dropped the manga because of the slow build-up chapters from the beginning, some will drop the anime because of these slow episodes.
Still, I remain hopeful that the anime will gain popularity when it reaches the more action oriented episodes and characters like Jin or the top teams will be introduced. And consequently, the manga popularity should rise a lot as well.
Judging by the current pace, I got the feeling that it will be longer than 2-cour which would be a great news because it would guarantee the manga to be safe from cancellation for a long while. -
WT nearly sold 45k volumes in its second week. Hopefully they manage to get another 20-30kto stay in Oricon. Would be the first time that a volume of WT would stay for three weeks in a row in the Oricon rankings. Better would be 40k, that way they get over 150k and show that the anime, albeit small, is already boosting the sales.
With the next episode and as long as they don't butcher up the invasion arc in the anime, it should give WT adecent enough boost in sales to get over 200k in time. And with Kuroko no basket end and Naruto soon ending, we might get some fujoshis from KnB and some battle fans from Naruto who hadn't yet paid WT much interest. Maybe. More fans in japan would be certainly good to have to keep WT going.
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Chapter 79 spoilers:
! -Visa is defeated, and he explodes. It's ambiguous whether it's his Trion body or real body (probably the former).
-Yūma joins Osamu's fray.
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Chapter 79 spoilers
! Boy, ch. 79 goes all out on the action, if that chapter doesn't make it into or near the top five then either the editor in chief or the jump fansmust be superspoiled to disregard this as "uninteresting". XD
! Yuuma rushes right towards HQ to help Yuuma out though he is not in his black trigger form. If he gets hurt in this form he might die for real. Same for Osamu who goes so far to protect Chika and Replica by calling his trion body off toescape of being trapped. Miwa was the star though by using Mira's warp portals against her and shooting vipers at them. A bit surprised by that though I thought pistols and guns cannot shoot vipers? Or did I misread that?
! Anyway Miwa deals both Mira and Hyrein wounds and then gets teleported away and then he also turns into his human form and uses Fujin, Jin's black trigger, to attack the neighbors. Looks like we already got our future black trigger holder for that weapon.
! Anyway, 7 seconds are left and a lot is happening:
Osamu is a couple steps away from safety.
Hyrein rushes him to get the golden goose aka CHika.
Mira seems to have lost her trigger as it got destroyed/broke.
Yuuma goes all out on a big trigger circleshot.
Miwa goes all black trigger wind blades.
And all that gonna have an impact in those 7 seconds.
So the next chapter will certainly be the one where we finally get to see the climax of the crossroad future.Anyway, great chapter all around. Never thought I would get to like Miwa due his attitude and narrowsighted mind but he is pretty darn impressive, I must admit.
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Question:
Can I post here a link leading to the okaish translations of ch. 57-67 or is that not allowed?
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Don't think there's a problem with it, as long as you don't post entire translations without spoiler tags.
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Okay,I take your work for it then.^^
Deleted the link as it had rips off from Viz, didn't knew that, sorry.
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! I was just thinking and I realized that if Hus really does get abandoned, it may be because Moira simply cannot retreat him, rather than chooses not to. I mean, if she's defeated, she won't be able to use her Trigger, and therefore, Hus would be stranded.
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WTF is wrong with Toei? This show has so many awkward pauses and useless filler it's disgusting. Even Gross Ange has better production value.
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After seeing what became of One Piece, it's hard for me to get excited about anything produced by Toei.
I only saw the trailer for this and it didn't look promising.
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I was just thinking and I realized that if Hus really does get abandoned, it may be because Moira simply cannot retreat him, rather than chooses not to. I mean, if she's defeated, she won't be able to use her Trigger, and therefore, Hus would be stranded.
True that but he might not know that as Mira's trigger was also responsible for sending messages, so he might feel like he would have get abandoned for real.
WTF is wrong with Toei? This show has so many awkward pauses and useless filler it's disgusting. Even Gross Ange has better production value.
Yeah, true that. No point arguing it. But I am still so glad it were only seconds of awkward pauses and useless fillers instead of like episode 1 was:
….... ...... ...... ..... Are they really looking at each other for a whole minute without blinking and saying anything at all? And what's up with that BL music?!For now I'm just glad that episode 3 was on the same underground niveau as episode 1 and even was a decent step upwards comapred to episode 2, mostly due the couple action scenes, the more explanations due trion as well as the great voice of Hanazawa, hah so strict and coooooold~ <3, as wll as the adorably funny scene of Jun with his younger siblings. Though latter is mostly because I can relate so much to such an situation since I have two younger siblings as well. Though both of them are bigger than me now. XD
Also we both know that Gross Ange, wow that name really stuck huh XD,looks good but inside is shit and Yamato JESUS; while World Trigger looks shitty but inside it is darn good. Especially once we get to the Invasion arc and the faster we get there the better it "should" be.
Mind you "should", 'cause we are talking about Toei. They are always good for a bad surprise. <.<But for now I'm ok with what they made of episode 2 and 3.
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@James:
Okay,I take your work for it then.^^
The translations are 57-67. 56 has to be read with just translations, no pages. The translations aren't always good, but good enough to understand what is going on. Well, I understood far more than I did with just looking at the raw.^^
Those are just Viz's with a remixed translation, you can tell because Viz translates the sound effects.
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Is the manga still boring and trite? The first 30 chapters were awful…
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@Wes:
Spoiler tag would of been nice.
Holy crap, sorry bro. Added them though.
Wait, did you read the scanlation James posted?
Is the manga still boring and trite? The first 30 chapters were awful…
If you really disliked WT for that long, it may not be your kind of story. The current arc is really epic, and including the scanlations James found, we have up to chapter 67.
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Holy crap, sorry bro. Added them though.
Wait, did you read the scanlation James posted?
If you really disliked WT for that long, it may not be your kind of story. The current arc is really epic, and including the scanlations James found, we have up to chapter 67.
I read it via ESJ, I just glanced through them to check out the quality.
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@Wes:
Those are just Viz's with a remixed translation, you can tell because Viz translates the sound effects.
I already wondered why some of those chapters seemed to have different qualities in that regard.
Is the manga still boring and trite? The first 30 chapters were awful…
The current arc is pretty darn good, lots of actions, "death", surprises, twists, teamwork, battle plans, etc. going on.
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Is the manga still boring and trite? The first 30 chapters were awful…
Pretty much.
Anime however is so shit that it makes manga look like a masterpiece.
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Judging by the current pace, I got the feeling that it will be longer than 2-cour which would be a great news because it would guarantee the manga to be safe from cancellation for a long while.
Late response, but I'm sure that since it's a Toei product based on a longer running Shonen, it'll continue until:
A. The ratings are too low (Toriko).
B. The manga ends.
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With the current pace, the anime should reach the latest chapter in about 30 episodes. So, I'm guessing the anime will last until spring at the very least.
I'm satisfied by what Toei is doing so far, especially after watching the 3rd episode. I feel that the director care about being faithful to the manga which is the most important thing to me. The only changes made were smart fillers.
The animation and the music of the action scenes are good enough. The non action scenes aren't really well animated but it doesn't really matter IMO.
I'll wait to see how they animate the fight against Miwa to confirm my impression.As for a boost of popularity of the manga, I don't expect that to happen before the anime reaches the Jin fight.
The invasion arc has been so great. It would be a shame if the mangaka isn't awarded for his effort.I can't wait to see in what direction the plot will go after the arc is over : a rank war arc ? a rescue mission ?
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@Galaxy:
Late response, but I'm sure that since it's a Toei product based on a longer running Shonen, it'll continue until:
A. The ratings are too low (Toriko).
B. The manga ends.
C. Merchandise and DVD sales are too low (Toriko).Toriko ratings and Merchandise never were low at all! So …
DVD sales were never big for long running, not Naruto, not Hunter x Hunter(I believe this is the worst of the current long running in terms of DVD sales), not Detective Conan, not Precure, not One Piece(that is the better of all getting around 2k per DVD Volume).
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Toriko ratings and Merchandise never were low at all! So …
The series aired at 9 A.M. on Fuji TV. For the timeslot it had, the ratings were poor.
The series' CARDDASS line of cards was discontinued due to poor sales. That's part of merchandise. I don't think anything else sold well at all either compared to their other properties.
The first full length movie completely bombed at the Box Office as well.
I mean… look at these numbers:
Toriko's 2013 movie earned US$1,859,563
Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods earned US$29,936,495Here's an article comparing the numbers: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/01/30/rumor-mill-current-state-toriko-dragon-ball-kai/
Toriko simply wasn't a big enough success for Toei. That's why it's gone.
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Toriko ratings and Merchandise never were low at all! So …
Lol. Yes they were. Did you even see the ratings? They are shit for what Toei and Shueisha were expecting. Especially considering how desperately hard they were promoting Toriko, pushing in down the throats at every occasion. Threw away money that they never got back.
"It's the new DB and OP guys, trust us".Toriko anime is a complete failure. That's not even debatable.
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@Galaxy:
The series aired at 9 A.M. on Fuji TV. For the timeslot it had, the ratings were poor.
The series' CARDDASS line of cards was discontinued due to poor sales. That's part of merchandise. I don't think anything else sold well at all either compared to their other properties.
The first full length movie completely bombed at the Box Office as well.
I mean… look at these numbers:
Toriko's 2013 movie earned US$1,859,563
Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods earned US$29,936,495Here's an article comparing the numbers: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/01/30/rumor-mill-current-state-toriko-dragon-ball-kai/
Toriko simply wasn't a big enough success for Toei. That's why it's gone.
In that case isn't WT totally fucked? Or will it get counted as success due its timeslot?
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@Galaxy:
The series aired at 9 A.M. on Fuji TV. For the timeslot it had, the ratings were poor.
The series' CARDDASS line of cards was discontinued due to poor sales. That's part of merchandise. I don't think anything else sold well at all either compared to their other properties.
The first full length movie completely bombed at the Box Office as well.
I mean… look at these numbers:
Toriko's 2013 movie earned US$1,859,563
Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods earned US$29,936,495Here's an article comparing the numbers: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/01/30/rumor-mill-current-state-toriko-dragon-ball-kai/
Toriko simply wasn't a big enough success for Toei. That's why it's gone.
Calling its 5 points average TV rating poor? Removing the 6 best series(Sazae-san, Chibi Maruko-Chan, Crayon Shin-chan, Doraemon, Detective Conan and One Piece) it was almost always in the top with Precure, Yokai Watch and Pokemon. If you note that Only One Piece of the 6 best were a morning show and that from his partners only Precure was also a morning, you wouldn't be saying "for the timeslot(morning) it had, the ratings were poor".
Do you know the numbers his substitute is doing? Basically the same. Such low ratings :(, NOT!I don't know well the situation of Toriko merchandise, but it had a lot of it. Just saying that one of it was discontinued doesn't say much.
Funny how you say that the merchandise was a failure, but you give me a link where they say that the franchise was consistently Toei 4th best one. Certainly below One Piece(1st), Precure(2nd), Dragon Ball(3rd. They confirmed this). So it was better than Saint Seiya Omega, Digimon and others. But you're saying it didn't do well.Yep, the movie completely bombed! That was certainly the worst failure of the franchise, but comparing it with a Dragon Ball movie is just stupidity, worse comparing with such a big marketed movie from the franchise. Why don't we compare it with One Piece Film Z, you know it would be a lot more significant to humiliate Toriko failure given that with it we have a 1.9M against 73M.
If you go look for what kind of values a super successful long running anime franchise 1st move gets, instead of a super powerhouse returning with a big marketed movie, you would noticed that it is around 10M instead of 30M. Is also good to notice that Bleach 1st movie earned US$1,228,917, yep less than Toriko, and it got 3 more movies after that, movies that started earning around 6M, not super successfully but good enough. A long running anime 1st movie bombing doesn't mean that the franchise is doomed in theaters, just that it started with the wrong foot.Toriko being cancelled is more a thing of Fuji TV, Toei and the other investors having something better and safer with Dragon Ball Kai: Buu Saga, than with Toriko that didn't got mega popular, and the fillers that they would have to do for its anime(or 1 chapter per episode). This doesn't means Toriko is a failure and had low rankings. Just that there was something better.
Also note how Dragon Ball Kai: Buu Saga is just something limited, 69 episodes) and that after that we don't know what Toei and Fuji TV will bring up. Toriko is a big option. Is also possible that they find something better and decide to go with it. The Voice Actors also talked about their hopes of it returning, so is obvious it wasn't a flop in the franchise or a certainly definitive end.Now about World Trigger, and it continuing. For what I know the World Trigger timeslot is the previous timeslot of Matsutarou and Saint Seiya Omega. Matsutarou took 2 seasons while Saint Seiya Omega 2 entire years. I don't believe it will take less than 2 seasons, but I still doubting it will be a long running anime. It can go either way, but I'm more directed with it being a 2 cour show adapting around 70 chapters of the manga. I would assume that around that is the end of the invasion.
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Calling its 5 points average TV rating poor? Removing the 6 best series(Sazae-san, Chibi Maruko-Chan, Crayon Shin-chan, Doraemon, Detective Conan and One Piece) it was almost always in the top with Precure, Yokai Watch and Pokemon. If you note that Only One Piece of the 6 best were a morning show and that from his partners only Precure was also a morning, you wouldn't be saying "for the timeslot(morning) it had, the ratings were poor".
Do you know the numbers his substitute is doing? Basically the same. Such low ratings :(, NOT!That's a pretty poor rating for the timeslot and channel. For that timeslot, it should have been performing much better. The factors that allow Kai to continue with mediocre ratings are its massive popularity. Merchandise for the Dragon Ball franchise sells and the series is licensed worldwide.
I don't know well the situation of Toriko merchandize, but it had a lot of it. Just saying that one of it was discontinued doesn't say much
Sales of the other merchandise were poor as well. The CARDDASS line is just one of the biggest examples of failed merchandise sales.
Yep, the movie completely bombed! That was certainly the worst failure of the franchise, but comparing it with a Dragon Ball movie is just stupidity, worse comparing with such a big marketed movie from the franchise. Why don't we compare it with One Piece Film Z, you know it would be a lot more significant to humiliate Toriko failure given that with it we have a 1.9M against 73M.
_If you go look for what kind of values a super successful long running anime franchise 1st move gets, instead of a super powerhouse returning with a big marketed movie, you would noticed that it is around 10M instead of 30M. Is also good to notice that Bleach 1st movie earned US$_1,228,917, yep less than Toriko, and it got 3 more movies after that, movies that started earning around 6M, not super successfully but good enough. A long running anime 1st movie bombing doesn't mean that the franchise is doomed in theaters, just that it started with the wrong foot.It's fine to compare the Toriko movie to other Toei property movies. Fuji TV and Toei tried their hardest to push Toriko to the same levels as Dragon Ball and One Piece (2 specials with One Piece, and then a third special that included Dragon Ball characters). They did these for 3 years in a row. Toei released a 3D movie for Toriko along with One Piece's Movie 11. Even after all this promotion, the movie still bombed hard. It was apparent then that the adaption was a failure in every way in terms of what Toei wanted from it financially. I don't follow Bleach at all, but I can only imagine the series at least had momentum from the success of the manga, and was still able to get the ratings and merchandise sales needed for it to continue.
> Toriko being cancelled is more a thing of Fuji TV, Toei and the other investors having something better and safer with Dragon Ball Kai: Buu Saga, than with Toriko that didn't got mega popular, and the fillers that they would have to do for its anime(or 1 chapter per episode). This doesn't means Toriko is a failure and had low rankings. Just that there was something better.
Also note how Dragon Ball Kai: Buu Saga is just something limited, 69 episodes) and that after that we don't know what Toei and Fuji TV will bring up. Toriko is a big option. Is also possible that they find something better and decide to go with it. The Voice Actors also talked about their hopes of it returning, so is obvious it wasn't a flop in the franchise or a certainly definitive end.
This is exactly the reason. Due to various factors (ratings, box office bomb, merchandise), the investors (and therefore Fuji TV and Toei) decided that Dragon Ball Kai would have bigger success in the slot (its popularity worldwide and its recent box office performance). Maybe it'll come back, maybe it won't. With the way it was ended though (extremely rushed as a last second decision I imagine), I'm betting on no.
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Calling its 5 points average TV rating poor?
Yes. Read what people wrote.
@Hari:They are shit for what Toei and Shueisha were expecting. Especially considering how desperately hard they were promoting Toriko, pushing in down the throats at every occasion. Threw away money that they never got back.
"It's the new DB and OP guys, trust us".This doesn't means Toriko is a failure and had low rankings.
Yes, it does. Did you even read the article? Ffs.
And why the fuck are you defending this fact like you have it's stock share or something?
Nobody is attacking manga and the series quality overall because of this.
You're literally arguing over the plain fact that anime is a failure, like it means something for the actual anime/manga.
Nobody is saying that anime was shit and that's why it's failed. It failed because Toei and Shueisha were too arrogant and expected too much out of it. They are basically doing Squae Enix. -
So, can we talk about World Trigger again or do you guys want to rename this thread into Toriko 2.0? :getlost:
Yeah, it is sad that Toriko got a shitty anime given its qulities as a manga.
No, this is not the thread to discuss about the success or failure of the Toriko anime and thus possibly affecting the manga as well.
Yes, you are allowed to use Toriko as an example why WT will also fail or do better for whatever reason, but please stay on that topic if possible.
Sorry if I bothered you. Hope you're not offended.
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@James:
In that case isn't WT totally fucked? Or will it get counted as success due its timeslot?
Right, well to answer this, World Trigger airs at 6:30 A.M. on Sunday mornings. It's a bit less prime time than the time slots of Toei's bigger properties (Kai and One Piece), so DVD sales and merchandise are what will drive the anime to its doom or success.
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@James:
In that case isn't WT totally fucked? Or will it get counted as success due its timeslot?
Toriko had Top 10 ratings. Way better than Naruto, HunterxHunter, Pokemon, Bleach and a lot and a lot of other titles. It had, in the majority of time, even better ratings than Precure, the 2nd best Toei franchise. Saying that Toriko ratings were poor is like saying that 90% of the industry TV anime ratings were worse than horse shit.
Yep, it ratings were worse than what it substituted Dragon Ball Kai, before the recent Bu arc that is having similar ratings than Toriko, but that in no way says is ratings were bad. For example One Piece special edition, a remastering of the first episodes of One Piece to a 1080p(or was 720p, it doesn't matter, I believe both ratios are the same right?) quality got constantly in the top 10 ratings, totally embarrassing series like HunterxHunter, Naruto and if I remember correctly also got most of the ratings better than the powerhouse Precure. That was only a confirmation of One Piece popularity just like Dragon Ball Kai is a confirmation of Dragon Ball popularity not a confirmation that the rest is poor. They are top dogs, not average values.The anime that run in World Trigger timeslot is Saint Seiya Omega and for the data reported ranked around 2 points every week.
Here is the sites with series ratings:
. This one as the Top 40 ratings since 2008 until end of 2012:
Toriko beginning - http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-350782/japanese-anime-tv-ranking?pg=36
Saint Seiya Omega Beginning - http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-350782/japanese-anime-tv-ranking?pg=51. This one is since 2000 until 2012 first half, and has all titles ratings, but unfortunately is all in japanese:
http://www.geocities.jp/animesityouritu/Since 2013 the data given started only being the top 10 instead of top 20 or top 40 :'(, because of that there is no way to know how World Trigger is doing unless it get a ranking worth of Top 10.
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@Galaxy:
Right, well to answer this, World Trigger airs at 6:30 A.M. on Sunday mornings. It's a bit less prime time than the time slots of Toei's bigger properties (Kai and One Piece), so DVD sales and merchandise are what will drive the anime to its doom or success.
Many thanks for the explanation.
So what would be considered a "good" DVD sale or merchandise sell? Are we talking about thousands of sold DVDs or tenthousands?Toriko had Top 10 ratings. Way better than Naruto, HunterxHunter, Pokemon, Bleach and a lot and a lot of other titles. It had, in the majority of time, even better ratings than Precure, the 2nd best Toei franchise. Saying that Toriko ratings were poor is like saying that 90% of the industry TV anime ratings were worse than horse shit.
Yep, it ratings were worse than what it substituted Dragon Ball Kai, before the recent Bu arc that is having similar ratings than Toriko, but that in no way says is ratings were bad. For example One Piece special edition, a remastering of the first episodes of One Piece to a 1080p(or was 720p, it doesn't matter, I believe both ratios are the same right?) quality got constantly in the top 10 ratings, totally embarrassing series like HunterxHunter, Naruto and if I remember correctly also got most of the ratings better than the powerhouse Precure. That was only a confirmation of One Piece popularity just like Dragon Ball Kai is a confirmation of Dragon Ball popularity not a confirmation that the rest is poor. They are top dogs, not average values.The anime that run in World Trigger timeslot is Saint Seiya and for the data reported ranked around 2 points every week.
Here is the sites with series ratings:
. This one as the Top 40 ratings since 2008 until end of 2012:
Toriko beginning - http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-350782/japanese-anime-tv-ranking?pg=36
Saint Seiya Beginning - http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-350782/japanese-anime-tv-ranking?pg=51. This one is since 2000 until 2012 first half, and has all titles ratings, but unfortunately is all in japanese:
http://www.geocities.jp/animesityouritu/Since 2013 the data given started only being the top 10 instead of top 20 or top 40 :'(, because of that is no way to know how World Trigger is doing unless it get a ranking worth of Top 10.
Well, that sucks. Guess we won't know WT's ranking anytime soon then. Are 2 points good or bad for Saint Seiya? It doesn't sound much for me.
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@James:
Many thanks for the explanation.
So what would be considered a "good" DVD sale or merchandise sell? Are we talking about thousands of sold DVDs or tenthousands?Unfortunately, I'm not sure about the specifics of that information.
A series like Jojo's Bizarre Adventure depends exclusively on DVD/Blu-ray sales (it's a late night anime). It's not viable to rely on the numbers that series got, due to the massive popularity of the manga beforehand. The numbers for that series in sales were in the tens of thousands per Blu-ray and DVD volume. It all depends on what Toei considers "successful".
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@James:
Well, that sucks. Guess we won't know WT's ranking anytime soon then. Are 2 points good or bad for Saint Seiya? It doesn't sound much for me.
"2 points" means that 2% of the Kanto region (Japan's most populated region) were watching the program. It was in the time slot for 2 years with those ratings.
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@James:
Okay,I take your work for it then.^^
The translations are 57-67. 56 has to be read with just translations, no pages. The translations aren't always good, but good enough to understand what is going on. Well, I understood far more than I did with just looking at the raw.^^
Not cool! Most of the chapters are rips from english shonen jump (viz). Please stop sharing
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Supposedly in the bottom three again this week, what is going on?
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The latest chapter was awesome.
Yuma managed to win against a stronger opponent in a believable way using his singularity (real body being a trion body), something the veteran neighbor had never seen.Also, I love how characters in this arc learn from the previous fights and adapt their strategies.
How Osamu/Replica used what Izumi learnt about Hyrein's trigger. How Miwa anticipated Mira and Hyrein's combo thanks to the data from Karasuma's fight. And before that chapter, how Yuma used data from Reiji's fight against Viza to confirm what Organon's power was.7 seconds left. I can't wait for next week's chapter. I'm expecting a flashback regarding Miwa and how he got hold of that trigger.
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@Galaxy:
"2 points" means that 2% of the Kanto region (Japan's most populated region) were watching the program. It was in the time slot for 2 years with those ratings.
Would be great if WT could get close to 2 points as well then. Though if the little kids watching the show starts buying the manga increasing the volume sells, then that would be even better.
Not cool! Most of the chapters are rips from english shonen jump (viz). Please stop sharing
Didn't knew that, sorry. Deleted the link.
Supposedly in the bottom three again this week, what is going on?
Let's hope that next week it raises out of the bottom five. I don't like to see WT so low, especially since I liked this arc a lot. :/
The latest chapter was awesome.
Yuma managed to win against a stronger opponent in a believable way using his singularity (real body being a trion body), something the veteran neighbor had never seen.Also, I love how characters in this arc learn from the previous fights and adapt their strategies.
How Osamu/Replica used what Izumi learnt about Hyrein's trigger. How Miwa anticipated Mira and Hyrein's combo thanks to the data from Karasuma's fight. And before that chapter, how Yuma used data from Reiji's fight against Viza to confirm what Organon's power was.7 seconds left. I can't wait for next week's chapter. I'm expecting a flashback regarding Miwa and how he got hold of that trigger.
Yeah, it is great how it is not "the weaker ones get finished and then the stronger ones show up" which isn't true as we see Izumi A1 ranked Agent and Karasuma who's part of the "best Border team" got done in by Hyrein and Mira while Miwa who is "only" A7 rank was able to injury both due a single action which he used due his knowledge of the previous fights. That is really good! <3
Too bad though that lately japanese readers don't seem to enjoy WT as much as we do. :c
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Haha, Mira ran out of Trion! I'm feeling very satisfied right now :)
That wormhole spam was getting ridiculous
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Haha, Mira ran out of Trion! I'm feeling very satisfied right now :)
That wormhole spam was getting ridiculous
Just shows that even Black Trigger users can run out of Trion. At least faster or in a more believeable fashion than in Naruto were it feels more like "oh right, there was an old rule that once said you can't just spam laser-jutsu in the blink of an eye, better give somebody an headache"".
Sadly, it doesn't mean that Mira/Moira is no danger.
Ch.80 spoiler
! As she is the one who kills or at least horribly injuries Osamu with her warp-spikes.
Don't watch this!
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