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Toonami on Adult Swim
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Are you guys really hating on the dub after just this random episode?
I've seen it up through Arlong.
I'd forgotten how annoyed I was by Usopp and Luffy's voices.
It's the first time I've heard Chopper's, and its incredibly irritating.
I figured they would have gotten the characters more natural by 200 episodes in.
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Well, I spent my Toonami-viewing evening on Toonzone, as I always do. As far as reactions from new viewers there, yes, pretty much all of them were confused as to what was going on (some were thrown just by the balloon octopus alone), but I still think it managed to make a good impression for the most part.
This comment in particular amused me:
Okay, I AM glad I watched that. This is Japan's Adventure Time
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@RobbyBevard:
I've seen it up through Arlong.
I'd forgotten how annoyed I was by Usopp and Luffy's voices.
It's the first time I've heard Chopper's, and its incredibly irritating.
I figured they would have gotten the characters more natural by 200 episodes in.
But the voices are as natural as they're going to be.
Luffy, Usopp and Chopper don't have "natural" voices. It's just something some viewers need to get slowly accustomed to.
Colleen, Sonny, and Brina have improved a good deal since 2008. It's a lot easier for them now. -
Adventure Time is about the best thing it has going for it. It's gotten american audiences used to bright colors and strangely drawn characters doing wierd shit.
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God IGPX's OST is so incredible.
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I'll give the dub a chance again but I'm not really expecting much. English voice actors seem to have a real issue in not going over board irritating with sillier characters…
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I think the dub is really well done. Since Funimation took it over back in 08 and restarted the series, they have stayed true to story of One Piece. I feel a lot voice actors do a really good job capturing the spirt of the characters. For those who haven't seen the Funi dub, I suggest you stick around. If you want to see earlier episodes of the dub, go to http://onepieceofficial.com, they have 1-205.
BTW Jonathan Brooks does a great Foxy. Stick around for that.
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People don't give the funimation dub enough credit…I thought last night was Amazing.
That said , this is coming from someone who completely despises the Foxy arc.
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Its funny my favorite voice in the funi dub is Chopper's…
It was a strange episode to start off, but people need to have faith...we've been wanting OP on TV for the longest time and now that its here, people are gonna complain?
Try being happy its on at all.
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Luffy's voice is really annoying. That hasn't changed since 08
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Missed toonami last night. So how was One Piece?
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Missed toonami last night. So how was One Piece?
Mostly enjoyed, a few disliked the wackiness.
On a related note, I think Funimation should reconsider cutting out the OP for One Piece. For one major reason. The opening builds hype for events to come and why viewers should stick around.
Kokoro No Chizu is especially great for that. There's got to be someway they can cut it so the OP can stay. Especially since I'm pretty sure Bleach runs just about the same length right?
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I liked the whole Bellamy and Doflamingo part because it will show new watchers that this show is not kiddy
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I don't get the whole deal with starting points honestly. For what it's worth, the The Davy Back Fight was the first arc I read in the manga and it was really enjoyable. It showed off all the character's perps in a condensed amount of time. My gripe about it has to be the filler games, as they were really out of place. Especially the roller skating one, the mini island race, and that really odd scene with Zoro riding a horse for almost no reason. The padding was pretty bad.
But as for me not getting the deal.
Even if it started earlier or at a different point, we'd have to go through this arc eventually.The One Piece anime is by no means perfect, and I'm one of those people that think it's terrible for the most part. But I have to say Longland Island has alot to see for new casual watchers. It shows the show's mood really well right before getting into an overly long and drawn out saga that gets really heavy. It's honestly the best starting point aside from Soabondy… which isn't even dubbed yet.
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I liked the whole Bellamy and Doflamingo part because it will show new watchers that this show is not kiddy
It's very kiddy though. Blood and violence don't make a show mature. Maturity comes with realistic psychological effects that occur with the violence and actions to make them more impactful.
One Piece is light hearted and dwells on it, and always has the motto to "move on through the dark times".
As much as I'm glad that OP is on Adult Swim, it really has no business being on it (along with the other shounen series)
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Mostly enjoyed, a few disliked the wackiness.
On a related note, I think Funimation should reconsider cutting out the OP for One Piece. For one major reason. The opening builds hype for events to come and why viewers should stick around.
Kokoro No Chizu is especially great for that. There's got to be someway they can cut it so the OP can stay. Especially since I'm pretty sure Bleach runs just about the same length right?
You're barking up the wrong tree. Adult Swim cuts that out for commercial time. Funimation only has to comply to their demands. It's either they cut the op and ed, or their cut certain scenes from the show.
It's very kiddy though. Blood and violence don't make a show mature. Maturity comes with realistic psychological effects that occur with the violence and actions to make them more impactful.
One Piece is light hearted and dwells on it, and always has the motto to "move on through the dark times".
As much as I'm glad that OP is on Adult Swim, it really has no business being on it (along with the other shounen series)
No… maturity is through themes. In the case of One Piece, getting through dark times is a mature theme because One Piece always makes the stakes grow as the series progress. Themes of abandonment, slavery, class differences, govt. corruption, and racism are all themes that come into our lives somehow, affecting us in various ways. And growing through these tough times is a sign of maturity, it's a sign of moving onwards with your life and not letting the past drag you down. A show does not have to be a depressing wangstfest, or a psychological thriller that talks about how the world sucks to be mature; there's maturity in happiness too, but it's a happiness that must be earned and fought for.
Just because One Piece has a cute exterior doesn't mean that the message underneath is not dark. You'd have to be pretty shallow to miss that.
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As much as I'm glad that OP is on Adult Swim, it really has no business being on it (along with the other shounen series)
Either that or subscriber based outlets like Crunchyroll or Neon Alley.
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As much as I'm glad that OP is on Adult Swim, it really has no business being on it (along with the other shounen series)
And it's the only place on cable television where One Piece can air uncut.
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Honestly the only thing that will do one piece in is the damn pacing,that unfortunately begins to take place at this point in the story, and the stupid sea horse filler arc. (though admittedly it does give character backgrounds,so it has some use. ) and you can thank toei animation for that.
As for the argument about the dub, the dub is fine,(arguably better than the original IMHO) people will either like it or hate it,not really much to say on that really, as it is a pointless circle jerk of a debate.
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No… maturity is through themes. In the case of One Piece, getting through dark times is a mature theme because One Piece always makes the stakes grow as the series progress. Themes of abandonment, slavery, class differences, govt. corruption, and racism are all themes that come into our lives somehow, affecting us in various ways. And growing through these tough times is a sign of maturity, it's a sign of moving onwards with your life and not letting the past drag you down. A show does not have to be a depressing wangstfest, or a psychological thriller that talks about how the world sucks to be mature; there's maturity in happiness too, but it's a happiness that must be earned and fought for.
Maturity is through execution not themes alone. Your comment reminds me of this:
One Piece merely touches bases with those themes, and even when it does, everything is black and white. The villains are so cut and dry about their actions to the point where morality can't even come into question. You don't think "oh hey, this villain has a point".
Look at Hody Jones for example, a product of being raised in a racist environment, which may bring someone to think about the effects of racism…
Until he decides he's going to drop a ship and kill his entire race, making him look completely evil rather than a conflicted villain afraid of change.
I think the best instances of psychological effects in this series are Luffy actually having a bit of PTSD after seeing his brother die (he jumps back when he sees blood on his hands). And even then, he jumps back from it in 2 chapters.
And I can agree about "moving on and fighting for happiness" being a mature thought, but at the end of the day, it's still a light hearted show aimed at children.
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Maturity is through execution not themes alone. Your comment reminds me of this:
https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/6/6b/Razor2.jpg
One Piece merely touches bases with those themes, and even when it does, everything is black and white. The villains are so cut and dry about their actions to the point where morality can't even come into question. You don't think "oh hey, this villain has a point".
Look at Hody Jones for example, a product of being raised in a racist environment, which may bring someone to think about the effects of racism…
Until he decides he's going to drop a ship and kill his entire race, making him look completely evil rather than a conflicted villain afraid of change.
I think the best instances of psychological effects in this series are Luffy actually having a bit of PTSD after seeing his brother die (he jumps back when he sees blood on his hands). And even then, he jumps back from it in 2 chapters.
And I can agree about "moving on and fighting for happiness" being a mature thought, but at the end of the day, it's still a light hearted show aimed at children.
I understand that, I just didn't mention it because I thought it was obvious.
We can probably blame the ship dropping thing on the overdose of the drug, which also sends a message of drug overdose and how it can affect all minds, especially an unstable one like Hody's.
Then you have a lot of navy conflict that makes for non-black and white morality. How about the incident at Impel Down, you have a guy like Magellan doing his best to prevent the world's worst criminals from escaping Impel Down, and remember, not every pirate is like Luffy, a lot of them deserve to be there.
You have Smoker who acts as an antagonist to Luffy but is willing to work with him if just to deal with larger threats.
Hell, the entire theme of justice that comes into play in this show is quite mature as is. Akainu is an extremist, sure, but if Movie 12 suggested anything, even he has limits in what he does to fight for justice.
How about govt. corruption in employing pirates to work for the Navy? Yes, the villains are cut and dry villainous, but they're all given second chances which they act upon to become more complex characters who, while not entirely heroes will still work towards a common goal with Luffy no matter what they did in the past.
It's lighthearted, yes, it's aimed for children, yes, but it's still very mature in what it accomplishes.
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While the drugs making him zany is a logical explanation, where were the shown effects on his thought process that slowly show his mind snap?
That's the kind of thing I'm talking about.
And when I said things were black and white, I was talking about the heroes and the villains. The government is corrupt, but they are just outright assholes. There doesn't seem to be a middle ground. Akainu killed a bunch of civilians on a boat just because one of them could know about a pone glyph. And you're right, there are morality conflicts here and there.
I can agree that it has some mature values in it, I just don't think OP goes deep enough into them.
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While the drugs making him zany is a logical explanation, where were the shown effects on his thought process that slowly show his mind snap?
That's the kind of thing I'm talking about.
And when I said things were black and white, I was talking about the heroes and the villains. The government is corrupt, but they are just outright assholes. There doesn't seem to be a middle ground. Akainu killed a bunch of civilians on a boat just because one of them could know about a pone glyph. And you're right, there are morality conflicts here and there.
I can agree that it has some mature values in it, I just don't think OP goes deep enough into them.
He became increasingly violent, that was actually expressed in his entire crew when they start to attack their own comrades in fits of violence that they couldn't control.
They're not all assholes, just a good deal of them are. The gorosei don't seem exactly like assholes in their own right, and they seem to have fears that are well founded. Remember, the lost history made Pluton and brought Poseidon, and Poseidon is a very dangerous weapon if she can summon all seakings, especially if that was put in the wrong hands like Crocodile.
I'll admit, it doesn't go incredibly deep. But I think it goes deep enough to be considered mature.
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Why is Adult Swim making them butcher Kokoro no Chizu? That's the most hypest opening of the series ever and it'll get even new viewers hyped I think. A number of their animes air with their full opening (but a gimped ending credit) so why do this to One Piece?
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Why is Adult Swim making them butcher Kokoro no Chizu? That's the most hypest opening of the series ever and it'll get even new viewers hyped I think. A number of their animes air with their full opening (but a gimped ending credit) so why do this to One Piece?
You guys really want to sit through 2 minutes of a theme song? I agree the editing was choppy but I swear every time bleach's op comes on I change the channel and sometimes forget to change it back.
After a while people singing in a language I can't understand gets annoying.. Especially when it's 2 minutes and without subtitles. To each their own.
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You guys really want to sit through 2 minutes of a theme song? I agree the editing was choppy but I swear every time bleach's op comes on I change the channel and sometimes forget to change it back.
After a while people singing in a language I can't understand gets annoying.. Especially when it's 2 minutes and without subtitles. To each their own.
The difference here is Kokoro no Chizu not only is catchy and really well put together, but the things it shows in the intro could get people excited for what's to come.
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Why is Adult Swim making them butcher Kokoro no Chizu? That's the most hypest opening of the series ever and it'll get even new viewers hyped I think. A number of their animes air with their full opening (but a gimped ending credit) so why do this to One Piece?
For more advertisement space. Remember when cartoon network made Funimation cut out certain scenes from episodes in 2008? The same thing applies here, only that they cut the EDs and OPs.
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This opening has been and always will be my favorite opening…it needs to play fully...
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Yeah that was my favorite opening lol.
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When I was first watching One Piece years ago that opening got me psyched on what's to come. Why couldn't that work for new viewers? It'd be benefictial to Adult Swim to let it run in full I think.
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When I was first watching One Piece years ago that opening got me psyched on what's to come. Why couldn't that work for new viewers? It'd be benefictial to Adult Swim to let it run in full I think.
They could get away with trimming the middle section where it's just mainly showing the Merry sailing, but they need to include the latter half's action sections. Nami wielding that gun is so cool.
I'm going to tweet about this actually. Of course the one thing capable of making me tweet is One Piece lol. But there needs to be an opinion from the public that this opening shouldn't be so mangled.
So am I the only one who skipped the openings when I marathoned one piece? (After watching it once or twice to see how it was)
Are you the only one on the entire planet who skipped them? The statistical probability of that is microscopic. The only ones I skipped were… the We Are remix, and We Go (:O!).
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When I was first watching One Piece years ago that opening got me psyched on what's to come. Why couldn't that work for new viewers? It'd be benefictial to Adult Swim to let it run in full I think.
They could easily edit the opening to show what's to come while still staying around 30-40 seconds. But showing the entire 2 minute op every week will bring in viewers?
So am I the only one who skipped the openings when I marathoned one piece? (After watching it once or twice to see how it was)
Edit: adult swim gets paid by selling ad space, so showing the entire opening is doing the opposite of helping them get money. Which is their goal.
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Edit: adult swim gets paid by selling ad space, so showing the entire opening is doing the opposite of helping them get money. Which is their goal.
I thought their goal was to air crappy original programming.
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I thought their goal was to air crappy original programming.
Well I suppose they use the money they get to fund shows like black dynamite (dissapointment)
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Black Dynamite is awesome in my opinion both the cartoon and the movie. Anyways, this upcoming weekend it will be one year since Toonami came back.
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Black Dynamite is awesome in my opinion both the cartoon and the movie. Anyways, this upcoming weekend it will be one year since Toonami came back.
It's a hit and miss kind of show I think, but its not unwatchable.
Hell I hated squid billies at first but now it's awesome to me. To each their own.
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It's just so horribly mangled. Of everything they showed in that intro they cut it down to just shots of the Straw Hats. They made it into a Straw Hat clip show.
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Really which toonami could be bunmped up to like 9 PM.
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Last time we got PM Toonami it ended with the block's eventual cancellation, though it can't possibly happen twice…right?
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It's just so horribly mangled. Of everything they showed in that intro they cut it down to just shots of the Straw Hats. They made it into a Straw Hat clip show.
Look at it this way, they saved us from the spoilerific beauty known as Kokoro
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I think people underestimate what an opening can do for a show. I mean didn't we just get another thread just about openings we loved? Most anime I love have a theme song I can't wait to watch. If the song and animation is just right I rarely ever skip the intros. And Kokoro I felt was one of the best One Piece had to offer.
It drives me nuts that Soul Eater's opening got chopped too cause hot damn I love that intro. I hated the FMA:Brotherhood getting chopped too.
Bleach being the only one spared irks me.
Could you image in they cut the intro for Cowboy Bebop? Ugh…I know it's shorter, but still. No.
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I'm really curious about how they'll handle having just the opening? Will they cut it down to a minute? Use part of it as a makeshift end credits? Use another format for the credits, or just go whole hog in the opening?
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Really which toonami could be bunmped up to like 9 PM.
That won't happen unless the block starts getting more viewers than Family Guy and King of The Hill, which is extremely unlikey unfortunately.
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Could you image in they cut the intro for Cowboy Bebop? Ugh…I know it's shorter, but still. No.
No worse than cutting The Real Folk Blues despite showing the full ending for years.
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Really which toonami could be bunmped up to like 9 PM.
Whoa, slow your roll general. Let's start small with aiming for 11pm.
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Ratings for One Piece's premier night on Toonami.
! | 12:00a
| Bleach
| 977,000
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| 12:30a
| Naruto
| 961,000
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| 1:00a
| One Piece
| 995,000
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| 1:30a
| Soul Eater
| 981,000
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| 2:00a
| IGPX
| 597,000
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| 2:30a
| Eureka 7
| 634,000
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| 3:00a
| Thundercats
| 634,000
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| 3:30a
| Sym-Bionic Titan
| 558,000
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| 4:00a
| Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
| 563,000
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| 4:30a
| Cowboy Bebop
| 493,000
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| 5:00a
| Inuyasha
| 546,000
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| 5:30a
| Inuyasha
| 560,000
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Surprisingly low numbers for Bleach and Naruto and the block all around, but SNL had its finale that night, so I guess that may have factored in? Oh well, W00T at One Piece having the highest ratings. -
I still don't understand why they haven't picked up the final season of Inu Yasha. It's out stateside and dubbed now, right? Sure its only 26 episodes, but it seems like it'd be a shoo in.
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Viz is apparently a) holding on to the liscence for some reason. B) Charging way too much for it.
Anyways, just posting the Turner Press Release here too;
Saturday night’s Toonami block also scored success: new episodes of One Piece(1 a.m.) and Soul Eater(1:30 a.m.) ranked #1 in their respective timeslots among all targeted young adults and men, Bleach (12 a.m.) ranked #1 in its timeslot among adults 18-34 and men 18-24 & 18-34, and **Naruto (**12:30 a.m.) ranked #1 in its timeslot among adults and men 18-24 & 18-34. All new episodes within the anime block earned impressive double-digit growth across adults 18-34 & 18-49 and all targeted men – ranging between 15% and 348% – vs. the same time period last year.
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I'm really curious about how they'll handle having just the opening? Will they cut it down to a minute? Use part of it as a makeshift end credits? Use another format for the credits, or just go whole hog in the opening?
I really hope they can find some way to include at least parts of the OPs. I know they are cut for commercial breaks, but am I missing something here?
How long is the standard Bleach and Naruto Episode (I'm assuming shorter)?
Even if they do have to cut Kokoro No Chizu, They still should've just used the last 30 seconds of it or something to get the viewers hyped for what's to come.