Is luffys scar from akainu??????
Yeah it is, from when he magma punched him during the war.
Is luffys scar from akainu??????
Yeah it is, from when he magma punched him during the war.
I swear akainu ist the most epic villain..
Luffy loves blackbeard compared to akainu…
Hes the biggest enemy of luffy
Those don't point to him wanting to be PK, unless he himself states it. From my understanding, he wants Yonkos that don't just sit in their little corner of the world and do nothing, like Whitebeard, Shanks, BM, and Kaidou. During the time Luffy was in the Grand line, none of them threatened or fought against the WG/marines until an incident instigated by the WG themselves. None of those clues other than him saying OP will be there point to him wanting to be pirate king. If he wants to see a different world and doesn't like the way things are going on, has a vandetta against WG, wants to control the underground or whatever it may be, dethroning a couple of strong characters all point to things that he has done.
It's very likely as soon as the old school generation of Yonkos is dethroned, it's going to turn something into all out war against the WG. Law seeks OP (thanks to the one that highlighted the page), and based on assumptions and that small bit between Shiki and Roger, it could be a weapon.
I'm not saying Law doesn't want to be PK 100% since it's unknown, but I have a suspicion the way he was first introduced that he does not want it or at least will end up not really going after it. They specifically made Kid state the fact that he wants that title and to be known straight from his introduction. It's very likely that Kid probably dethrones one of the Yonkos and Luffy kicks his ass (no I don't think Luffy is going to beat BM, Kaidou, BB and Shanks since thankfully Oda doesn't write the whole story to only revolve around the main character). Even his 2nd hand is someone you know Zoro is going to take down.
Anyways currently I, you and whoever else can claim to know what he wants but in reality none of us know. Law is far too reserved to have idea what is going on that brain of his. He took his time to go to New Wolrd, than you have Luffy 2.0 (ie Kid) who went there and looks like he got his ass kicked by someone (scars everywhere). Law is very methodical and has given very little of his plans to know for certain his objectives.
You make no sense and have no valid point. The guy wants one piece and to be pirate king what we are unsure of is if his mind will change stop complicating it.
I swear akainu ist the most epic villain..
Luffy loves blackbeard compared to akainu…
Hes the biggest enemy of luffy
Considering that Blackbeard was responsible for the war and he is Luffy's main rival, I would say that Blackbeard is the biggest enemy of Luffy.
I wonder how much strong are hundred beasts of kaido, how much of them can use haki….may be they are not that special and are just like those 1600 members of WB pirates. If kaido has atleast around 15 strong commanders like like WB pirates, then alliance of strawhats and law shouldnt be able enough to take them down. Currently only luffy, zoro, sanja , law and may be that polar bear are strong haki users who can defeat a commander of yonkou..in my opinion another group would go against kaido for their own reasons and would make alliance with luffy-law, my theory is this group would be samurais of wano. They are said to be very strong, they would fight against these hundred beasts of kaido. Kinemon and few other important samurais would fight against commanders along with SH and heart pirates. So i believe that oda would include DD and Wano in kaido saga. Kaido is preparing army of smiles for nothing, we have already seen in his attempt at intercepting WB, that he is an aggressive and ambitious person. In my opinion he would attack wano , it would morally justifies luffy in taking down kaido. DD and his pirates would be linked with kaido pirates due to their role in smiles.
@Foxy:
Considering that Blackbeard was responsible for the war and he is Luffy's main rival, I would say that Blackbeard is the biggest enemy of Luffy.
from a story point of view Akainou or to phrase it better World Government is Luffy biggest enemy. Blackbeard will be the main rival for finding One Piece but from the hints we have so far finding One Piece will be the beginning of an even bigger war unless Oda manages to combines these two together somehow :o
I really can't wait for Luffy & the crew to leave Punk Hazard. It's been a wonderful arc so far, but I really want to see where exactly the alliance will be directing them. With the eminent arrival of Doflamingo and the mysterious stranger though, I could see this arc getting another 5-10 chapters (depending on how long Oda lets Doflamingo play with the Strawhats before the stranger's arrival). I'm expecting a hasty, fast-paced escape: no long goodbyes.
But luffy doesnt hate blackbeard so much.
Compared to akainu he loves blackbeard.
Blackbeard only captured ace but akainu killed him and damaged him and jimbei
@Foxy:
Considering that Blackbeard was responsible for the war and he is Luffy's main rival, I would say that Blackbeard is the biggest enemy of Luffy.
Back in Fishman Island, Luffy couldn't care less about Blackbeard becoming a Yonkou, but he reacted to the news about Akainu defeating Kuzan and becoming Fleet Admiral.
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But luffy doesnt hate blackbeard so much.
Compared to akainu he loves blackbeard.
Blackbeard only captured ace but akainu killed him and damaged him and jimbei
But if Blackbeard hadn´t captured Ace then Akainu wouldn´t have had the chance to kill him. And he was the man Ace was hunting. So Luffy sure hates him more than Akainu.
@OPF:
But if Blackbeard hadn´t captured Ace then Akainu wouldn´t have had the chance to kill him. And he was the man Ace was hunting. So Luffy sure hates him more than Akainu.
No he doesn't. See my post above.
No he doesn't. See my post above.
I give you credits for that find, but I still think he hates Blackbeard more, who destroyed Choppers hometown, was hunted by Ace and who was responsible for the start of the whole war. He was maybe just reacting to Akainus name because of his wound. And we all know that Luffy can´t listen for a long time so he maybe didn´t even hear the Blackbeard part.
I don´t say he doesn´t hate Akainu, he definitely does, but he is more connected to Blackbeard (BB also killed Whitebeard, he might hear about it from Robin by the time he meets him again or he even heard about it already) than to Akainu and therefore has more reason to hate him than to hate Akainu.
Nah, Luffy doesn't hate Blackbeard; he just gets weird vibes from him. I don't think the hate will arise until BB slaughters Shanks later on (perhaps before Luffy can return the hat).
luffy equally hate akainu and blackbeard so stop arguing. he attacked blackbeard when he saw him in impel down.
luffy equally hate akainu and blackbeard so stop arguing. he attacked blackbeard when he saw him in impel down.
luffy doesnt hate blackbeard…. He just captured ace even in impel down blackbeard said that he might save ace.
Luffy has pure hate against akainu look at fi arc he reacted angry at akainus name but for blackbeard he just doesnt care. I think hes just fibe with him since he is only following his dream same as luffy
@OPF:
I give you credits for that find, but I still think he hates Blackbeard more, who destroyed Choppers hometown, was hunted by Ace and who was responsible for the start of the whole war. He was maybe just reacting to Akainus name because of his wound. And we all know that Luffy can´t listen for a long time so he maybe didn´t even hear the Blackbeard part.
I don´t say he doesn´t hate Akainu, he definitely does, but he is more connected to Blackbeard (BB also killed Whitebeard, he might hear about it from Robin by the time he meets him again or he even heard about it already) than to Akainu and therefore has more reason to hate him than to hate Akainu.
Akainu is the epitome of dark justice in the manga, he is the physical embodiment of what's wrong with one piece's justice. Blackbeard may have caught Ace, but that is completely overshadowed by the death caused by an Akainu, which in my opinion, puts him at first priority of an ass whooping.
I imagine Luffy will beat BB for One Piece roughly around the end, then go after the WG with Akainu or someone else from their governemnt to take down.
luffy got mad at blackbeard, hated him for capturing ace, he hated akainu for killing ace. no argument.
atleast Law is kinda helping Luffy out but if you think about it luffy and shanks are pirates and they are gonna have to face each other one day. The law and luffy dynamic was funny in this chapter. Roger and whitebard 2.0 maybe. And man those G-5 guys are hilarious with line drawn in the snow but eating sanji's cooking.lol
I just found out that the Bald guy in Roger pirates is called: Seagull n wasn't the mysterious guy riding on a seagull? Lol
@OPF:
I give you credits for that find, but I still think he hates Blackbeard more, who destroyed Choppers hometown, was hunted by Ace and who was responsible for the start of the whole war. He was maybe just reacting to Akainus name because of his wound. And we all know that Luffy can´t listen for a long time so he maybe didn´t even hear the Blackbeard part.
I don´t say he doesn´t hate Akainu, he definitely does, but he is more connected to Blackbeard (BB also killed Whitebeard, he might hear about it from Robin by the time he meets him again or he even heard about it already) than to Akainu and therefore has more reason to hate him than to hate Akainu.
I'm sure he doesn't care about blackbeard. At the mention of Akainu he gets a serious face While at Blackbeard name he just casual go eat his meal.
Back in Fishman Island, Luffy couldn't care less about Blackbeard becoming a Yonkou, but he reacted to the news about Akainu defeating Kuzan and becoming Fleet Admiral.
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Actually, if you look on the last page, Luffy wasn't even listening to Jimbei. So he doesn't know that Blackbeard is a Yonko.
I just found out that the Bald guy in Roger pirates is called: Seagull n wasn't the mysterious guy riding on a seagull? Lol
Seagull's kinda of big and doesn't fit the looks of the close up silhouette of mystery guy.
@Foxy:
Actually, if you look on the last page, Luffy wasn't even listening to Jimbei. So he doesn't know that Blackbeard is a Yonko.
The point is that Luffy showed more interest in Akainu than in Blackbeard.
Sure Blackbeard captured Ace, but Luffy was still able to rescue him. Akainu, however, did something Luffy couldn't prevent or fix at all and single-handedly destroyed all of Luffy's efforts during Impel Down and the Marineford War with a punch. He also left a permanent scar on both Luffy's mind and body.
@Foxy:
Actually, if you look on the last page, Luffy wasn't even listening to Jimbei. So he doesn't know that Blackbeard is a Yonko.
All Blackbeard did was capture Ace (as far as Luffy knows; he doesn't know about Shanks' scar). Akainu blew a hole in Luffy, Jinbe's arm, and murdered Ace. I think Luffy hates Akainu infinitely times more than Teach, although he does dislike Teach for capturing Ace.
I don't know, I'm sure that Luffy hates Akainu more than he hates Teach,
but back in Impel Down, he sure seemed as if he cared.
I don't know, I'm sure that Luffy hates Akainu more than he hates Teach,
but back in Impel Down, he sure seemed as if he cared.
Akainu killed his brother, yeah if Teach didnt bring him there he wouldn't have been killed but Akainu was the one that killed him, he probablhy hates them both but I feel he hates Akainu more.
@Fire Fist:
All Blackbeard did was capture Ace (as far as Luffy knows; he doesn't know about Shanks' scar). Akainu blew a hole in Luffy, Jinbe's arm, and murdered Ace. I think Luffy hates Akainu infinitely times more than Teach, although he does dislike Teach for capturing Ace.
Agreed. People should remember that Luffy knew Ace could take care of himself, he just lost to someone who was better than him and got captured in the process(a professional hazard). I really don't think Luffy would hate BB for that it would be like saying he hates Mihawk for defeating Zoro. Akainu on the other hand Killed Ace and in the process insulted and spat upon Ace's treasure(WB) so for that he earns Luffy's hate.
I don't know, I'm sure that Luffy hates Akainu more than he hates Teach,
but back in Impel Down, he sure seemed as if he cared.
back in impel down he didnt know akainu
@Formation:
It would just be the place where they make sweets like the FI Island factory.. if that gets destroyed they still have food. Whatever the place is it's under Big Moms name.
Did you even read the page? Big Mom said "the scents of the entire country being baked through…"
It wasn't just the sweets factory.
In all honesty blackbeard himself did say he did whitebeard a favor by bringing Ace back alive and giving him a chance to be saved.
Come on people, how can someone hate the person who took his brother away more than the person who killed his brother and put a permanent scar on him?? That doesn't even make sense nor matter what angle you look at it.. Since we've seen BB he never randomly starts a fight or kill anyone(unless its in the way of his goal), everyone he has fought has been the first to attack him but Akainu been killing people off like leafs falls off a tree including his own subordinates.. The FACT is- Akainu is more evil and dangerous than Blackbeard, which leads me to believe Luffy will fight BB before fighting Akainu.. Even BB ran from Akainu cuz he knows magma-brat is crazier than him :ninja:
back in impel down he didnt know akainu
That doesn't change the fact that he does, in fact, hate Teach.
He just hates Akainu more…
just compare the look on luffy's face when he hears about akainu from jimbei and when he hears about BB.. and you'll see which wound hurts more..
@melody:
just compare the look on luffy's face when he hears about akainu from jimbei and when he hears about BB.. and you'll see which wound hurts more..
Well, yeah… Akainu murdered his brother right in front of him...
But some people are saying that Luffy doesn't even care about Teach, which is just not true... That look on his face in Impel Down, that was a look of pure anger and hatred...
Luffy definitely hates Akainu more than Blackbeard.
But Blackbeard is still more of an obstacle for Luffy, they are both after One Piece and want to be Pirate King.
i dont think DD is yonkou lvl els croc would not talk to him like they are equals and DD would easyly be able to kill him and he would not talk about making a aliance if he was so much stronger, The youkou part will come at like 100-200 chaps i think but it depend on where the SH goes and how much they can improve, and then i think kid and his alliance will take down Big mom tho i still think luffy should meet her some how…
Dofla made an alliance with Bellamy who wasn't strong, he'll toss aside weaklings but he also gives people chances to prove themselves. Crocodile talked shit to Blackbeard who would kick his ass and took on Whitebeard who also kicked his ass previously. Also Yonkou have people under them who are far weaker like Ace being much weaker than Whitebeard when he first joined. So I still could see Dofla at that level (though I don't think he's quite as strong a Yonkou but somewhere in between Admiral level and Yonkou). I'm now curious to see how everything will work out because a) Dofla has a deal w/ Kaidou b) Luffy sent a bomb to Big Mam c) Big Mam already challenged Luffy, who accepted. I think Big Mam will be dealt with before Kaidou because, I still think she's Lola's mother meaning she won't crush the SHs. So yeah I think Kid's alliance could take down Big Mam after she befriends Luffy, then Luffy's alliance takes down Kaidou.
Dofla made an alliance with Bellamy who wasn't strong, he'll toss aside weaklings but he also gives people chances to prove themselves. Crocodile talked shit to Blackbeard who would kick his ass and took on Crocodile who also kicked his ass previously. Also Yonkou have people under them who are far weaker like Ace being much weaker than Whitebeard when he first joined. So I still could see Dofla at that level (though I don't think he's quite as strong a Yonkou but somewhere in between Admiral level and Yonkou). I'm now curious to see how everything will work out because a) Dofla has a deal w/ Kaidou b) Luffy sent a bomb to Big Mam c) Big Mam already challenged Luffy, who accepted. I think Big Mam will be dealt with before Kaidou because, I still think she's Lola's mother meaning she won't crush the SHs. So yeah I think Kid's alliance could take down Big Mam after she befriends Luffy, then Luffy's alliance takes down Kaidou.
sigh didn't know Oda was on Apforums.
sigh didn't know Oda was on Apforums.
LOL, I'm doing the transitive property Luffy kicked Crocodile's ass, and Blackbeard kicked Luffy's ass; is it that crazy to assume Blackbeard who could completely nullify Crocodile's power would beat him? Please explain to me how a shichibukai who beat took on the fleet admiral, Yonkou Commander (and won), and Yonkou would lose to a shichibukai who got beat by a rookie who was able to win through luck. Also I meant to say Crocodile talked shit to Blackbeard and Whitebeard who beat his ass previously.
LOL, I'm doing the transitive property Luffy kicked Crocodile's ass, and Blackbeard kicked Luffy's ass; is it that crazy to assume Blackbeard who could completely nullify Crocodile's power would beat him? Please explain to me how a shichibukai who beat took on the fleet admiral, Yonkou Commander (and won), and Yonkou would lose to a shichibukai who got beat by a rookie who was able to win through luck. Also I meant to say Crocodile talked shit to Blackbeard and Whitebeard who beat his ass previously.
Sorry bro it doesn't work that way in One piece, Luffy only won against crocodile cuz he was the main character- Crocodile stopped Mihawk the same one Luffy couldn't touch, Crocodile sent Joze n Dofla flying n I'm sure Luffy can't touch those two back then, Crocodile cut Akainu in half, is like Crocodile didn't even fight Luffy with all his strength back then and every time Crocodile does something everyone said his name with respect and please remind me when Luffy lost to Blackbeard??
LOL, I'm doing the transitive property Luffy kicked Crocodile's ass, and Blackbeard kicked Luffy's ass; is it that crazy to assume Blackbeard who could completely nullify Crocodile's power would beat him? Please explain to me how a shichibukai who beat took on the fleet admiral, Yonkou Commander (and won), and Yonkou would lose to a shichibukai who got beat by a rookie who was able to win through luck. Also I meant to say Crocodile talked shit to Blackbeard and Whitebeard who beat his ass previously.
Even though I agree that Blackbeard can easily beat Crocodile, I don't agree about the transitive property.
Just because A can beat B and C can beat A, doesn't mean that C can beat B. That's not how One Piece works, this isn't Dragon Ball. Every character has different strengths and weaknesses, and it's difficult to tell who can win.
@Foxy:
Even though I agree that Blackbeard can easily beat Crocodile, I don't agree about the transitive property.
Just because A can beat B and C can beat A, doesn't mean that C can beat B. That's not how One Piece works, this isn't Dragon Ball. Every character has different strengths and weaknesses, and it's difficult to tell who can win.
True but I think it works to a DEGREE, Luffy lost to Blackbeard but beat Lucci, Blackbeard could beat Lucci. But saying Lucci could be Crocodile… not as clear. Also Jinbe made it clear Blackbeard would be Luffy because he already had the power to beat Ace.
Sorry bro it doesn't work that way in One piece, Luffy only won against crocodile cuz he was the main character- Crocodile stopped Mihawk the same one Luffy couldn't touch, Crocodile sent Joze n Dofla flying n I'm sure Luffy can't touch those two back then, Crocodile cut Akainu in half, is like Crocodile didn't even fight Luffy with all his strength back then and every time Crocodile does something everyone said his name with respect and please remind me when Luffy lost to Blackbeard??
Luffy beat Crocodile because he recognized his weakness, Luffy lost to Crocodile twice, he also lost to Kizaru, Sentoumaru, and pacifistas. He SURVIVES because he is a main character. There is a difference there. Crocodile sent Jozu 'flying' doesn't = hurt Jozu, who destroyed him and would have hurt him more if Dofla didn't save him. Crocodile obviously fought Luffy with all his strength but his weakness to wetness was too great. Cutting Akainu in half is easy, again he didn't hurt Akainu at all. Luffy lost to Blackbeard at Impel Down, Jinbe stopped him from getting hurt. Crocodile gets respect because he's got a decent power and abilities but again once his weakness is revealed he is far more vulnerable and able to be taken down by an inexperienced rookie.
True but I think it works to a DEGREE, Luffy lost to Blackbeard but beat Lucci, Blackbeard could beat Lucci. But saying Lucci could be Crocodile… not as clear.
With more physical fighters it works better. But a fight like Usopp VS Perona, shows all of the different elements that factor into battle.
@Foxy:
With more physical fighters it works better. But a fight like Usopp VS Perona, shows all of the different elements that factor into battle.
Definitely, but my main point was Crocodile isn't on Blackbeard's level at least pre-TS. I like Crocodile and if he gets haki he could rival Luffy again.
Luffy beat Crocodile because he recognized his weakness, Luffy lost to Crocodile twice, he also lost to Kizaru, Sentoumaru, and pacifistas. He SURVIVES because he is a main character. There is a difference there. Crocodile sent Jozu 'flying' doesn't = hurt Jozu, who destroyed him and would have hurt him more if Dofla didn't save him. Crocodile obviously fought Luffy with all his strength but his weakness to wetness was too great. Cutting Akainu in half is easy, again he didn't hurt Akainu at all. Luffy lost to Blackbeard at Impel Down, Jinbe stopped him from getting hurt. Crocodile gets respect because he's got a decent power and abilities but again once his weakness is revealed he is far more vulnerable and able to be taken down by an inexperienced rookie.
Again the clash between Luffy and Blackbeard was equal both landed a hit and both was bleeding and BB said he underestimated Luffy.. BB never defeated Luffy n yeah you can go ahead believing Luffy would've lost to BB but as long as they never fought n Luffy never actually lost then yeah I will believe what I want..
True but I think it works to a DEGREE, Luffy lost to Blackbeard but beat Lucci, Blackbeard could beat Lucci. But saying Lucci could be Crocodile… not as clear. Also Jinbe made it clear Blackbeard would be Luffy because he already had the power to beat Ace.
Luffy beat Crocodile because he recognized his weakness, Luffy lost to Crocodile twice, he also lost to Kizaru, Sentoumaru, and pacifistas. He SURVIVES because he is a main character. There is a difference there. Crocodile sent Jozu 'flying' doesn't = hurt Jozu, who destroyed him and would have hurt him more if Dofla didn't save him. Crocodile obviously fought Luffy with all his strength but his weakness to wetness was too great. Cutting Akainu in half is easy, again he didn't hurt Akainu at all. Luffy lost to Blackbeard at Impel Down, Jinbe stopped him from getting hurt. Crocodile gets respect because he's got a decent power and abilities but again once his weakness is revealed he is far more vulnerable and able to be taken down by an inexperienced rookie.
Lol, becuz he recognized his weakness. Are you sure cause it seemed like he won cuz he made Croc believe that he couldn't be killed with his DF, thus why Croc used mostly his hook in the last fight, with the exception of 1 DF attack.
If BB beat Luffy then is it fair to say that Croc lost to Jozu when they're fight wasn't finished and Croc had hit just once and by a sucker punch, even thou he counter attacked.
And do we only consider hurt as a sign of blood here, as if so then BB's "win" over Luffy is much more questionable. Is Smoker mightier than Crocodile by this type of power scaling?
Opinoins are very tricky when you try to dictate others without proving your own.
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After watching the new episode, u can really see that Kinemon has big hate for pirates… So those people saying that pirates might have attacked Wano, it sounds very possible, maybe BlackBeard? first Drum Kingdom, now Wano? lol or one of the other fat Yonkous, either way, it should be interesting to find out what exactly happened, and how the SH will help out :)
EDIT: I'm saying fat cos of Momonusuke comment of how Pirates are men that weigh over 400kg etc, since he ,ight be speaking from his experience
After watching the new episode, u can really see that Kinemon has big hate for pirates… So those people saying that pirates might have attacked Wano, it sounds very possible, maybe BlackBeard? first Drum Kingdom, now Wano? lol or one of the other fat Yonkous, either way, it should be interesting to find out what exactly happened, and how the SH will help out :)
EDIT: I'm saying fat cos of Momonusuke comment of how Pirates are men that weigh over 400kg etc, since he ,ight be speaking from his experience
Now can you write that in English?