Those first few chapters before the Dio fight goes full swing and he's just fucking with everyone are pure gold
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
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Since we're posting awesome jojo related stuff.
These guys attempt to do all the jojo poses. lol
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The thing with Phantom Blood is, well, it's kind of boring. Like, not a whole lot happens until about the halfway point when vampires and the Ripple/Hamon start coming into play. I'm not too harsh on this part of the series considering it was definitely still trying to find where it wanted to go and as a general rule the earlier work of an author shouldn't be judged that much but it's still not really good. Still has it's moments certainly (Vampire Jack the Ripper~), but honestly while every part of JoJo is more or less largely self contained Phantom Blood is the only one that could really be skipped without missing out on much.
Indeed. To add onto that, the fights didn't have much of the strategic element the series later thrived on, and the art style showed signs of immaturity. The story telling is the weakest of the parts (except for part 3) and the ending is rather out of nowhere and polarizing. I still like the part, but it is certainly on the bottom rung of Jojo as a whole.
Personally DIAMOND IS NOT CRASH is my favorite part of JoJo with Vento Aureo coming in as a close second so far, but I still have to read Steel Ball Run so that could change for all I know.
Steel Ball run is pretty much tied with part 4 for my favorite. It is the first part that has a genuinely excellent storyline, the characters are interesting and fleshed out, the battles are as well designed and crazy as ever, and the race setting ties it all together.
Wait, is any JoJo fan actually saying that Phantom Blood was bad? I can understand why some people like it the least even if I disagree, but come on, it's still much better than most shounen manga out there.
I only ever said it was the worst part. It's still good.
In my opinion, Steel Ball Run > Battle Tendency > Stone Ocean > Stardust Crusaders > Diamond is Unbreakable > Phantom Blood > Vento Aureo.
Steel Ball Run> Diamond is Unbreakable> Battle Tendency> Vento Aureo> Stardust Crusaders> Stone Ocean> Phantom Blood
@Cyan:
The ZZ Top, weird pedophile orangutan, and demonic baby encounters really could've been cut from Stardust, but hey Araki had to run through the Major Arcana somehow.
He ran through the Major Arcana and went 11 stands over (9 Egyptian gods plus Cream and Tenor Sax). He could have cut out a good number of those fights, even if he was trying to stick to a theme.
My favorite thing about Kars is that he just goes, "Fuck the honour. I want to live."
It's probably how I would act, were I an immortal vampire progenitor.
I was really disappointed with Dio in Part 3, simply because for some odd reason he never just KILLED jotaro.
Why not just do the stand punch he did to Kakoyin?
I know, he wanted to show off, but there are limits to that.
Once Jotaro moved a finger with time stopped, I would've ended the fight right there.
At the beginning of the fight Dio had nothing to fear, so why finish Jotaro quickly? Once her saw Jotaro's hand move he was hesitant to attack, since Jojo might be able to counter. Once he finds out that Jotaro can move in stopped time, he uses the knife trick to figure out how long he can move, all while dealing a fatal blow. Dio them moves in for the kill, despite thinking Jotaro dead. He is interrupted by Kakyoin and then barraged by Jotaro, after which he is too weak to attack again until he gets Joseph's blood. Once he resumes the battle he quickly overpowers Jotaro, doing his best to kill him and only failing because Jotaro also gained time stop abilities. So really, the only time Dio definately could have beaten Jojo was right at the start, but a stand gaining another stand's ability is unprecedented outside of that one fight, so he's hardly at fault.
Or you know.. sending more than two stand users at a time?
Just once I would like to see the villain send their entire group at once. The battle would be awesome beyond words.
So I just found this thing:
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq59/DemonAlien_photos/fe8003a1386fd612dcb0d0b0d4fde69b.gif
Yeah, that pretty much covers it. Once you actually get the explanation for his abilities, he comes off seeming rather childish in moments like that.
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My favorite childish Dio moment is when he goes and gets the steamroller, he makes sure to go: "It's a steamroller."
Dude never had much of a childhood, now he finally gets to go crazy
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My favorite childish Dio moment is when he goes and gets the steamroller, he makes sure to go: "It's a steamroller."
Dude never had much of a childhood, now he finally gets to go crazy
Everything Dio ever does makes sense when viewed from a child's perspective
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So i just found this in other forum, and it might be interesting :
It's a worldwide contest.
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@FKM:
So i just found this in other forum, and it might be interesting :
It's a worldwide contest.
I can't make heads or tails of this. Is there a translate button (would be a oversight to not have one for a worldwide contest…)
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http://ls57tiger.freepgs.com/jojo/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5628
these guys explained it well:
Here're the questions.
1 - Language
The 8th part of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is now being serialized.
Every generation of protagonist has had their name abbreviated as "Jojo".
Please write the name of the protagonist for Jojo Part 16.2 - Biology
The protagonist of Part 3, Kuujou Joutarou, has only taken off his hat 3 times in the past.
Please answer what the reason for the 4th time will be. (★★★)3 - Art
Please draw an image to match with the picture below.
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Please write the name of the protagonist for Jojo Part 16.
Will Jondi Jokhadze do?:ninja:
Also,Part 5 was awesome guys.I mean,come on,it had THE best ora/muda pummeling in the entire series.
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…part 16? That's a little optimistic given that it took 25 years to get through 7 parts and that Araki is like 50 something. I guess it's a joke.
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…part 16? That's a little optimistic given that it took 25 years to get through 7 parts and that Araki is like 50 something. I guess it's a joke.
These questions are coming from "Rohan" himself.
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I disagree with almost everyone on Vento Aureo, though. It's one of my favourite parts. And I don't know why everyone loves Stardust Crusaders. The final battle is great, but until that point it's just a trip being dragged and dragged by 893429039 stand users.
Speaking of VA… continued from my last posts:
Vento Aureo: As far as I'm concerned it was almost a train wreck. If it wasn't for the stands and for the brief cameos of
! Polnareff and Koichi it would almost seem another manga.
Disclaimer #1: "almost" is the keyword, I'm just pointing out what I dislike here, even though VA was my least liked part of JoJo I still enjoyed it; it's still crazy (in a good way), funny and way above the average of what comes out these days.
Disclaimer #2: HEAVY SPOILERS FOR PART 5.
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Giorno kind of sucks. Seriously, he's the one JoJo who hasn't got any personality: Jonathan is a noble gentleman, Joseph is a funny smartass, Jotaro is a serious badass, Josuke is a friendly buffoon, Giorno is…. hmmm... completely vanilla, he has not enough defining traits, maybe only a slightly higher IQ and adaptability than his companions. As someone said before me, Buccellati seems to take the main spot in part 5, while Giorno feels just a sidekick.
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What the heck does Golden Experience do? Seriously. Explain it to me. At first it transforms stuff in living things, then we discover that any damage done to said living things is sent back to whoever hits them, then we learn that using it on living things has the effect of somehow slowing them down. Interesting concepts, even if I must say that they could appear as three completely different stands, they bear almost no relation to each other: inorganic to organic / counter damage / desynchronization of body and mind. Too bad that out of this three the last two completely disappear after the first few volumes: I remember plenty of istances when the living beings he created got hit but didn't send back home the damage, as for the other ability, as far as I understand he used it on Buccellati only, unless it's implied that he always uses it (even though there seems to be no sign of it whatsoever). Instead he develops an awful healing ability (becoming partly a copy of Josuke) that, as I already explained in my last post, feels cheap to me for someone of Araki's caliber, and seeing it used by the main character twice in a row (part 4-5) makes it feel even more cheap. Oh, and he learns to "sense" life out the blue with Notorious B.I.G. I think that Araki himself changed his mind many times about Giorno and his stand in part 5, seems like he didn't quite manage to settle on what to do with them. Which bring me to…
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What's the deal with Fugo? Fugo is a mistery to me. After he's introduced he only says like ten sentences till he exits the scene. Also he's the only one who only gets one fight… yeah fight... more like one hit kill. In fact Araki probably got himself in a corner with Purple Haze: it was just too strong for its own good. Everytime I kept thinking "why don't they send Fugo against x" "why doesn't Fugo fights y"... that's because otherwise the manga would've ended after 5 volumes tops, he would've obliterated almost any enemy the gang faced. But what left me in shock was how he disappeared... so he has the strongest stand amongst them and he is the only one between them who's a coward????? For real Araki? How does that make sense? I kept thinking he would come back and save them at the last minute but no, didn't happen.
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Mafia portrayed as something not entirely negative. I can understand that in a comedy manga like Reborn but in a serious one like JoJo it all seems too much apologetic. I'm Italian, I know that mafia isn't a good thing at all, it's terrible. While that was clearly portrayed by Diavolo, the majority of the other mafia members don't seem so bad, especially Giorno's gang which feel more like a group of super heroes. The mafia kills innocent people all the time (i.e. kids melted alive in acid), it's not a group a good samaritans as Giorno and Buccellati would make it seem. The idea of becoming a gangstar and reforming the mafia is also completely bullshit, it would be as entering the red cross with the intention of transforming it in an army: the premise is stupid. Besides their reasons to enter the mafia (i.e. the backstories of the gang) are sometimes mind-blowingly dumb.
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Great villains streak broken. The main character sucks but so does the main villain, and that's a real downer for me: Dio, Cars and Kira were some of the best villains ever and they were all very different from one another, Diavolo feels recycled and tackled on at the last minute. We know literally nothing about him until way after the middle point of part 5 (yeah, I know that was exactly what Diavolo wanted, but from a narrative point of view I didn't like it at all), and he only shows himself at the end. The split personality was a very nice touch, too bad I ended up appreciating Doppio as a character more than Diavolo himself. King Crimson's power is basically recycled from Dio… I know they technically work very differently, but the end result is most of the times too similar to have the same shock effect of ZA WARUDO! In the end Diavolo has a luckluster background and is pretty much just boring.
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Fucked up ending. Sweet God. I was confused, very confused, much more than with Stone Ocean's ending… but I'll get to that with my next post. 1) King Crimson is one of the hardest stand powers to understand fully (cause-effect for Christ's sake, it plays with one of the most important categories of philosophy); 2) Soul swap didn't help at all; 3) Silver Chariot Requiem has like three completely unrelated powers, I was very confused cause it felt like a stand with no overall theme when it appeared; 4) Golden Experience Requiem, maybe it was the bad translation but it didn't make much sense to me; 5) Rolling Stone... I still don't have any idea of what it had to do with anything and why Buccellati was a zombie. After all the ending just keeps up with the long lasting tradition of part 5 of having disastrously confusing fights (especially on the graphic side of things).
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But…but...Doppio !
Who? Passione's REAL and AWESOME boss? Araki killed him, otherwise he would murder everyone in Vento Aureo.
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Will Jondi Jokhadze do?:ninja:
Only if you tell me what his stand ability will be.
Also,Part 5 was awesome guys.I mean,come on,it had THE best ora/muda pummeling in the entire series.
I disagree. It had the longest and most brutal pummeling, but I think this one is the best:
http://pic.tenmanga.com/comics/16478/158993/5e8686dd35a1c8be130bf816650555ca.jpg@Donflamingo: Man that post was long. To answer your gripes;
Giorno was a vanilla character, but he did have ambitions and a kind heart. He even seemed cool in the first couple volumes. I'd say he was just as developed as Jonathan, and not far behind Jotaro.
Golden Experience has multiple abilities; so? Killer Queen has multiple abilities, and it's a fan favorite. I admit the healing factor was a plot convenience, but it worked in context of the ability. And could you show me an example of where his second and third abilities were absent, because I can't recall a time.
The Mafia's virtuos characters come entirely from Bucciarati's gang. Outside of them ,the entire group is rotten. As for Giorno's plan of changing the Mafia; fair enough, it does seem rather far-fetched, but not necessarily impossible. As for the backstories, this seems to be the first story that suffers from chronic flashback syndrome. I don't think every character really needs a backstory, but I don't think any of the ones given were bad.
Fugo's stand wasn't too powerful, it was simply boring. It dissalowed close combat as an enemy tactic, and you either avoided it's range or died. As for why he didn't fight all of the battles, he was generally incapacited or at another location at the time. And it would have been useless on plenty of stands, Baby Face, Notorious B.I.G, Clash and White Album to name a few. As for why he left, he just didn't want to go with them. Is it that hard to believe?
Diavolo is a bad villain. I think almost everyone here agrees with me on that. He had some interesting fights, but the character itself was one-note and boring. His stand was also far too convoluted. Nobody is disagreeing with you there.
I enjoy the finale on the re-read, but I admit that the first time through I had much trouble understanding what was going on, due to the extremely complicated scenario and drawings. Rolling Stones was a stand that dictated the time Bucciarati was going to die, therefore allowing Giorno to bring him back from a premature death. Or something like that, that's how I interpreted it.
I agree with you in saying that part 5 is flawed, but it also has many highlights as well. The great fights, a greater focus on the plot, excellent supporting characters, and a cool art style. It was definitely Jojo, but at the same time it felt like a beast of it's own. I put it in the middle; better than parts 1, 3 and 6; worse than parts 4, 2 and 7.
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Personally I like Vento Aureo, as the below post will probably prove beyond a shadow of a doubt lol
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I mostly agree with Giorno being sorta bland. I do like how he's the one Joestar (technically by blood anyways) that doesn't mind straight up murdering people as seen with Polpo and Cioccolatta (if memory serves right), so that's something that makes him stand out at the very least. I don't think he's a bad character though, just underdeveloped compared to the rest of the cast that isn't Fugo.
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Gold Experience has the ability to emit "life", which as you know can turn objects into living things such as animals and plants (and later on organic tissue to heal wounds because Araki has to put his characters through hell lol), though Giorno can turn them back at will. As you've said if he applies "life" into an already living being such as a human he can make their mind desync with their body actions. I wouldn't say Gold Experience is confusing, just very very versatile.
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Fugo got written out of the story because Araki made Purple Haze too powerful/too dangerous to his teammates. So Fugo leaves, which considering half the cast ends up dying by the end of Part 5 maybe that wasn't such a bad idea
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Giorno entered the mafia to reform it from the inside by usurping the position of boss. They're not really embracing the gangster lifestyle, they're trying to change it.
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I didn't really care for Diavolo either so no real issues here
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King Crimson isn't that hard to understand as I've stated in previous pages.
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Silver Chariot Requiem was just an uncontrollable Stand that only had the power to soul swap people by putting them all to sleep. The only way to damage it (due to the other being technically "dead") was a bit confusing but really all you need to know is you need to attack the light source from where it's shadow was drawn.
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Gold Experience Requiem works as the exact opposite of King Crimson. If King Crimson removes the "Cause" to prevent the "Effect" from ever happening, Gold Experience Requiem keeps the "Cause" but prevents the "Effect" from ever occuring, making any attempt at damaging Gold Experience Requiem useless. I suppose the best example of explaining that is to consider how Diavolo was defeated. Giorno killed him (the Cause) but due to his power Diavolo would never pass on (the Effect), having him in an endless loop of dying over and over again for eternity (until the universe got reset anyways).
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I've interpreted Buccellati being a zombie as a result of Giorno using his Stand to give life to someone who was biologically dead but had not yet passed on. As a result while Gold Experience made Buccellati's body be able to more or less function as if it were living, he was dead to begin with.
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I don't really know about Rolling Stone either but then again I read really shitty translations of Vento Aureo so perhaps someone else can help you on that behalf.
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Golden Experience has multiple abilities; so? Killer Queen has multiple abilities, and it's a fan favorite.
Killer Queen has got to be in my top 5 stands, but even though Bite the Dust made for very dramatic moments at the end of part 4, I really didn't like the out of character power here either. You have a stand that blows up stuff, how does it gets a time loop ability when powered up? Same gripe I have with the "requiems" as well.
And could you show me an example of where his second and third abilities were absent, because I can't recall a time.
From the top of my head, without even looking: during the Green Day fight, the mold destroys a vine created by Giorno, no repercussions. As for the other power it simply never noticeably appears after he uses it on Buccellati, as far as I remember. For all I know he could always be using it (there're no external signs after all), but nobody ever states to be desynchronized after being hit by him.
As for why he didn't fight all of the battles, he was generally incapacited or at another location at the time.
Yeah, that's the reason he didn't fight plot-wise. Though I'm asking myself why Araki decided to render him incapacitated most of the times instead of using him. Feels a lot like "oops, didn't think things through and I created a problematic stand, well I'm never using it again, that's it!".
I enjoy the finale on the re-read, but I admit that the first time through I had much trouble understanding what was going on, due to the extremely complicated scenario and drawings.
Too scared to re-read it. I'm waiting fo a better translation or the anime.
Rolling Stones was a stand that dictated the time Bucciarati was going to die, therefore allowing Giorno to bring him back from a premature death. Or something like that, that's how I interpreted it.
I feel your pain bro. Seriously, zombie Buccellati makes no sense.
I put it in the middle; better than parts 1, 3 and 6; worse than parts 4, 2 and 7.
I'd go more like: Stardust Crusaders > Battle Tendency > Phantom Blood > Diamond Is Unbreakable > Stone Ocean [2nd part] > Vento Aureo > Stone Ocean [1st part]
I've just begun Steel Ball Run: so far so good.
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Regarding Giorno.
Since He's dio's son, Who had stolen Jonathan's body (and his manhood ya know?), I see him as Jonathan's blood son. And much much MUCH like Jonathan Joestar, he's the extremely quiet type. He's the most similar to Jonathan out of all the Jo's, and it shows with his fight with Buccerrati, when he relents on an attack that could have finished him.
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Killer Queen has got to be in my top 5 stands, but even though Bite the Dust made for very dramatic moments at the end of part 4, I really didn't like the out of character power here either. You have a stand that blows up stuff, how does it gets a time loop ability when powered up? Same gripe I have with the "requiems" as well.
Still better than Star Platinum. Weren't stands' powers supposed to be unique? Star Platinum was introduced as having extremely precise movements. But then it became the same as The World.
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From the top of my head, without even looking: during the Green Day fight, the mold destroys a vine created by Giorno, no repercussions. As for the other power it simply never noticeably appears after he uses it on Buccellati, as far as I remember. For all I know he could always be using it (there're no external signs after all), but nobody ever states to be desynchronized after being hit by him.
I'm pretty sure the ability only reflects damage done to animals, not plants. Anyway, I don't thin the ability was portrayed inconsistently, though you're right in saying the third ability was only highlighted once.
Yeah, that's the reason he didn't fight plot-wise. Though I'm asking myself why Araki decided to render him incapacitated most of the times instead of using him. Feels a lot like "oops, didn't think things through and I created a problematic stand, well I'm never using it again, that's it!".
I just realized, Araki didn't write him out because he was too powerful, he wrote him out because he was useless! Just bear with me here, this is the rundown of the fights he would have taken part in, had he stayed with the group.
Clash/Talking Heads: couldn't use his ability in a crowded place.Clash could evade it easily anyway, and Narancia wouldn't be able to tell him about Talking Heads.
Notorious B.I.G: not a living organism, so unaffected by the poison. It would be too dangerous on a plane anyway.
Green Day: Spent most of the fight out of reach. He could be affected, but it wouldn't be easy.
Oasis: Could dive underground to avoid the poison
Silver Chariot Requiem: Would redirect his stand back at him.
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Regarding Giorno.
Since He's dio's son, Who had stolen Jonathan's body (and his manhood ya know?), I see him as Jonathan's blood son. And much much MUCH like Jonathan Joestar, he's the extremely quiet type. He's the most similar to Jonathan out of all the Jo's, and it shows with his fight with Buccerrati, when he relents on an attack that could have finished him.
Jonathan Joestar isn't quiet at all? Jotaro is the only quiet, passive aggressive one.
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Still better than Star Platinum. Weren't stands' powers supposed to be unique? Star Platinum was introduced as having extremely precise movements. But then it became the same as The World.
It might be more accurate to say that The World is what Star Platinum would (and did) become.
I've always interpreted The World as a stronger compilation of the Joestars' Stand powers. After all in the first couple of chapters in Stardust Crusaders Dio used Hermit Purple's powers, so it's very probable that the ability to stop time was Star Platinum's ability all along, Jotaro just didn't realize it or more likely didn't have his Stand developed enough yet to stop time until the very end of Part 3. Dio just figured out how to stop time with The World early on it seems.
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I think the issue people take with Gold Experience Requiem is because it's so obviously Araki trying to write himself out of the hole known as King Crimson.
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It might be more accurate to say that The World is what Star Platinum would (and did) become.
I've always interpreted The World as a stronger compilation of the Joestars' Stand powers. After all in the first couple of chapters in Stardust Crusaders Dio used Hermit Purple's powers, so it's very probable that the ability to stop time was Star Platinum's ability all along, Jotaro just didn't realize it or more likely didn't have his Stand developed enough yet to stop time until the very end of Part 3. Dio just figured out how to stop time with The World early on it seems.
I like you. You posts are so insightful.
@Cyan:
I think the issue people take with Gold Experience Requiem is because it's so obviously Araki trying to write himself out of the hole known as King Crimson.
it wasn't a Deus Ex Machina; the concept was introduced at the halfway mark. And if Araki could have Killer Queen lose in a convincing way, I think he could do the same for King Crimson. He just didn't take that route.
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Also,Part 5 was awesome guys.I mean,come on,it had THE best ora/muda pummeling in the entire series.
I'm sorry, Jotaro Vs. Steely Dan would like to have a word with you.
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It might be more accurate to say that The World is what Star Platinum would (and did) become.
I've always interpreted The World as a stronger compilation of the Joestars' Stand powers. After all in the first couple of chapters in Stardust Crusaders Dio used Hermit Purple's powers, so it's very probable that the ability to stop time was Star Platinum's ability all along, Jotaro just didn't realize it or more likely didn't have his Stand developed enough yet to stop time until the very end of Part 3. Dio just figured out how to stop time with The World early on it seems.
There's two reasons for Dio being able to use Hermit Purple actually.
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Araki at first wanted Dio to have all the stand powers in the world, but scrapped the idea.
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It was then retconned that Hermit Purple is Jonathan's stand, and The World is Dio's.
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Alright guys,I mean the process of the beatdown itself.Not the badass talk and humor leading up to it or anything,just the sheer visceral process of guy getting pummeled so hard and for so long,that his frigging vertebrae falls out,all of this brutality culminating in the aforementioned guy's disfigured body being sent straight into the garbage truck by the final punch.
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There's two reasons for Dio being able to use Hermit Purple actually.
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Araki at first wanted Dio to have all the stand powers in the world, but scrapped the idea.
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It was then retconned that Hermit Purple is Jonathan's stand, and The World is Dio's.
Well actually Dio used Hermit Purple after we see Joesph using it.
As far as retcons concerning The World go I haven't heard of anything to suggest Dio ever had the power to have all the Stand powers in the world (unless you want to point out something I just overlooked/forgot), just the strong possibility of having the Joestars' Stand powers. Which, now that I think about my interpretation a little bit more, also explains why The World had physical capabilities that were essentially on par with Star Platinum. I mean, save for Joesph and Dio's sons in Part 6, all the Joestars' Stands have very similar physical capabilities.
The only retcon that I know of was Anubis calling Dio's Stand "World 21" or something in a thought balloon, unless that's just a mistranslation of Viz's official release of Stardust Crusaders.
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There's two reasons for Dio being able to use Hermit Purple actually.
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Araki at first wanted Dio to have all the stand powers in the world, but scrapped the idea.
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It was then retconned that Hermit Purple is Jonathan's stand, and The World is Dio's.
When was this ever stated? Doesn't the World having the ability to use all of the Joestar stands work just as well as that explanation?
Alright guys,I mean the process of the beatdown itself.Not the badass talk and humor leading up to it or anything,just the sheer visceral process of guy getting pummeled so hard and for so long,that his frigging vertebrae falls out,all of this brutality culminating in the aforementioned guy's disfigured body being sent straight into the garbage truck by the final punch.
If that's what you meant, then of course there is no contest.
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There's two reasons for Dio being able to use Hermit Purple actually.
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Araki at first wanted Dio to have all the stand powers in the world, but scrapped the idea.
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It was then retconned that Hermit Purple is Jonathan's stand, and The World is Dio's.
Not all the stands in the world, just the ones until that time from the Joestar family. And about the matter that Jonathan had a stand or not is totally unknown, but…
! The alternative version of Diego has The World. Even if it's fanservice making reference of Dio, this gives some suppositions that is Dio's stand. But it's just a supposition…
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If it was just the joestars, then my bad.
The most source I have about the Jonathan thing is the JJBA wikipedia. http://jjba.wikia.com/wiki/Jonathan_Joestar:Abilities_and_Powers?action=render
Some people on /a/ said it was in an interview, but I didn't see anything when I searched for it.
It sound believable so I never second guessed it.
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This Hermit Purple moment was ''Araki's initial idea'' based on Dio having all the stand powers of the Joestar Family until that time. But he changed his mind and sticked with The World being only a better version of Star Platinum.
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if i am not mistaken all those talk about Dio's stand having all stand power in the world or all joestar family or The World was Dio's stand and Hermit Purple was Jonathan stand were all from the volume.. but can't remember what volume. it is in the pages when Araki describes stands power..
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Neato… Gotta find it.
Although.. I don't see how hermit purple even fits Jonathan's personality. Predicting people's actions is kinda Joseph's thing, so reading minds is up his alley.
Crazy Diamond reflects Jonathan closer imo.:wassat:
Oh yeah, and guys.. Guys... I can't get the OP out of my head....
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Is the OP available anywhere on YT?
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Is the OP available anywhere on YT?
I don't think so, I've only seen it on daily motion. I hear YT has been hammering down with the copyright.
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Speaking of volumes extras, what are those crappy drawings at the end of chapters that look like they have been drawn by Araki using his feet?
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy those drawings, I just don't get the point.
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I look at the Jonathan and see Kenshiro.
http://imageshack.us/a/img404/5225/jojosbizarreadventure02.jpgThat reminded me of the Ken vs Shin scene.
Speaking of volumes extras, what are those crappy drawings at the end of chapters that look like they have been drawn by Araki using his feet?
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy those drawings, I just don't get the point.
Which ones ? Aren't there usually some fanmade drawings at the end of chapters/volumes ?
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Which ones ? Aren't there usually some fanmade drawings at the end of chapters/volumes ?
Should be fanmade.These:
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/136500/jojos-bizarre-adventure-part-4-diamond-is-unbreakable_v39_ch361_by_the-invincible-trio/20
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/132301/jojos-bizarre-adventure-part-5-vento-aureo_v48_ch449_by_jojo-project/22 -
Oh those are sketches (or so i think).
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if i am not mistaken all those talk about Dio's stand having all stand power in the world or all joestar family or The World was Dio's stand and Hermit Purple was Jonathan stand were all from the volume.. but can't remember what volume. it is in the pages when Araki describes stands power..
Can you find and post it, please? I don't remember anything about this explanation inside any volumes, I don't know about the artbooks though.
There are some things inside Wikia I don't trust so much.Speaking of volumes extras, what are those crappy drawings at the end of chapters that look like they have been drawn by Araki using his feet?
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy those drawings, I just don't get the point.
They are sketches, like Sauza said, there are a lot of in the end of the chapters.
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Can't..stop..watching…...that OPENING!
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Since we touched on why Part 5: Vento Aureo isn't quite as good as the others, it's for (more or less) the same reasons Metal Gear Solid 2 and Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney aren't fan favourites on their series either. Here's my two cents:
(HERE BE SPOILERS)
1. The protagonist
Just everything about Giorno smells like a fan-character instead of a legitimate Jojo protagonist. A 15-years-old genius anti-hero teenager, handsome, half-Japanese, son of a fan-favourite charismatic villain (Dio), carries his father's photo in the wallet, born within shady and convultued circumstances, got his hair blond when his stand powers developed, has (a bit too much) versatile stand that makes him able to turn every tight situation shoot at him - including that Purple Haze issue - and is able to help in almost every fight that isn't his, making his mafia friends praise him at least twice every enemy appears. Really… He is too much of a convenient fan-character, and I am not even touching the last fight here that elevates him to Mary Sue levels of power.
2. The villain Since when I saw Doppio for the first time I knew he was the big bad. His also shady and convultued circumstances of birth irked me a bit, but I felt it was better than Giorno's at least. His appearance is not too full of details, but still a good enough design. His quirks are entertaining and made me chuckle a few times. His fight with Risotto was smart, not unlike a Joestar, where he needed his brains to outsmart and outmaneuver a seemingly much stronger opponent on a mano-a-mano. When Araki drew his "early", shaded version of Diavolo on a panel, I thought he was going to be just like Doppio but quite more musculous and vicious. Then, when he confronted Polnareff (another big problem altogether - making loved characters from earlier parts appear disgraced on a sequel), Doppio went behind the Coliseum pillar… And on the other side, Diavolo appeared for the first time. My reaction was just "...Huh?" - he is completely different from Doppio, even where it doesn't make sense. I mean, what's up with his "clothes" and polka-dotted hair? Araki discarded a lovable character and design due to plot issues to make a main villain and unfortunately failed, which lead us to...
3. The finale …Yes, the finale. Watching Diavolo pummel an almost defenseless, crippled Polnareff just isn't right at all. Then, Silver Chariot Requiem just messed up everything with all of his unrelated, game-breaking powers that involved a large-scale issue, affecting thousands of people in Rome. Doppio died while Diavolo survived and Narancia was killed pointlessly just because he was inside Giorno's body - Araki got rid of TWO fan-favourite characters without even giving us time to feel sorry about their deaths. Meanwhile, Polnareff got kicked downstairs even more on the development scale because now he is a turtle (several character storymaking issues here, huh? I am not even counting Schroedinger's Buccelati issues). Conveniently, Giorno power-ups and one-hit-kills the big bad. Yes, the villain that can erase time and prevent every attack was trumped just because Giorno got god-mode powers went down in one hit. Yeah... Let's not forget the misplaced Rolling Stone flashback and the Scooby-Doo ending with Trish and Mista ("I am glad that I don't smell anymore!" "Oh Trish you rascal you!" "AHAHAHAHA")...
That's my two cents. Sorry if I was too harsh, but that's what I feel about the Part 5: Vento Aureo problems.
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I'm probably super late in saying this but, the bassline in the ending is freakin' boss. Love it!
Otherwise, I'm entirely new to Jojo, so this anime is my first contact with the series, and all I can say is that I haven't been hooked in an anime this much since looong ago. I barely watched any anime in years too, outside Sakamichi no Apollon and one or two others.
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God Haxxperience Requiem is the single most ridiculously broken thing I've seen so far.I mean,seriously.
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I'm probably super late in saying this but, the bassline in the ending is freakin' boss. Love it!
Otherwise, I'm entirely new to Jojo, so this anime is my first contact with the series, and all I can say is that I haven't been hooked in an anime this much since looong ago. I barely watched any anime in years too, outside Sakamichi no Apollon and one or two others.
Welcome to the ride.You're in for a fabulous journey.
Hope you don't get too spoiled by this thread.So yeah,spoilers ahoy!
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Since we touched on why Part 5: Vento Aureo isn't quite as good as the others, it's for (more or less) the same reasons Metal Gear Solid 2 and Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney aren't fan favourites on their series either. Here's my two cents:
(HERE BE SPOILERS)
1. The protagonist
Just everything about Giorno smells like a fan-character instead of a legitimate Jojo protagonist. A 15-years-old genius anti-hero teenager, handsome, half-Japanese, son of a fan-favourite charismatic villain (Dio), carries his father's photo in the wallet, born within shady and convultued circumstances, got his hair blond when his stand powers developed, has (a bit too much) versatile stand that makes him able to turn every tight situation shoot at him - including that Purple Haze issue - and is able to help in almost every fight that isn't his, making his mafia friends praise him at least twice every enemy appears. Really… He is too much of a convenient fan-character, and I am not even touching the last fight here that elevates him to Mary Sue levels of power.
2. The villain Since when I saw Doppio for the first time I knew he was the big bad. His also shady and convultued circumstances of birth irked me a bit, but I felt it was better than Giorno's at least. His appearance is not too full of details, but still a good enough design. His quirks are entertaining and made me chuckle a few times. His fight with Risotto was smart, not unlike a Joestar, where he needed his brains to outsmart and outmaneuver a seemingly much stronger opponent on a mano-a-mano. When Araki drew his "early", shaded version of Diavolo on a panel, I thought he was going to be just like Doppio but quite more musculous and vicious. Then, when he confronted Polnareff (another big problem altogether - making loved characters from earlier parts appear disgraced on a sequel), Doppio went behind the Coliseum pillar… And on the other side, Diavolo appeared for the first time. My reaction was just "...Huh?" - he is completely different from Doppio, even where it doesn't make sense. I mean, what's up with his "clothes" and polka-dotted hair? Araki discarded a lovable character and design due to plot issues to make a main villain and unfortunately failed, which lead us to...
3. The finale …Yes, the finale. Watching Diavolo pummel an almost defenseless, crippled Polnareff just isn't right at all. Then, Silver Chariot Requiem just messed up everything with all of his unrelated, game-breaking powers that involved a large-scale issue, affecting thousands of people in Rome. Doppio died while Diavolo survived and Narancia was killed pointlessly just because he was inside Giorno's body - Araki got rid of TWO fan-favourite characters without even giving us time to feel sorry about their deaths. Meanwhile, Polnareff got kicked downstairs even more on the development scale because now he is a turtle (several character storymaking issues here, huh? I am not even counting Schroedinger's Buccelati issues). Conveniently, Giorno power-ups and one-hit-kills the big bad. Yes, the villain that can erase time and prevent every attack was trumped just because Giorno got god-mode powers went down in one hit. Yeah... Let's not forget the misplaced Rolling Stone flashback and the Scooby-Doo ending with Trish and Mista ("I am glad that I don't smell anymore!" "Oh Trish you rascal you!" "AHAHAHAHA")...
That's my two cents. Sorry if I was too harsh, but that's what I feel about the Part 5: Vento Aureo problems.
I like part 5, it's my favorite one :(, I can't wait until it gets animated
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I like part 5, it's my favorite one :(, I can't wait until it gets animated
Well, I know Part 5 isn't bad per se, just telling the issues that makes me weirded about it.