If that's how you want to see things, knock yourself out. It's of no concern to me.
What did you hate most about One Piece. Was it the adventure? The world building? The unique character designs? Maybe it was the magic fruit based fighting?
If that's how you want to see things, knock yourself out. It's of no concern to me.
What did you hate most about One Piece. Was it the adventure? The world building? The unique character designs? Maybe it was the magic fruit based fighting?
@Monkey:
What did you hate most about One Piece. Was it the adventure? The world building? The unique character designs? Maybe it was the magic fruit based fighting?
You're a funny guy, but I know when I'm getting trolled so have a nice day.
If you're pushing through an arc, you're not reading the series with the correct mindset. You should savor the journey, not rush forth like mad.
Was your favorite arc Enies Lobby?
Skypiea pretty much captures One Piece's spirit. Amazing and interesting peoples and places pervade the world and they're all just waiting to be experienced. It's the reason they're all out there in the first place. The well written personal conflicts of people like Norland and Calgara also serve to show just how large the world really is. It's much bigger than just the Strawhats. Not to mention the weight of this arc on the over all story. The Bilkans, Skypieans, and the Shandians supposedly came from the moon so they're technically aliens already, if the former is true. The Celestial Dragons wear space suits and are marked by their influence in the void century. (I'm betting they're winged.) And if they are, then the history of the moon peoples is integral to the void century. (Speculation, but I'm banking on it.)
If you don't like Zephos stepping on you that's fine, but it'd still be good to explain what exactly warrants you "dying" while reading through it. It may have been a viable complaint back in what, 2004? But I don't see it anymore.
It's pretty sad to see Fishman Island being the least liked. It really is all fans' very high expectations. I mean c'mon Davy Back Fight getting less hate? I mean yeah I like all the arcs for different reasons, and Davy Back Fight was certainly a different arc. But in what way was it different? It was just a lighthearted side-trip during the grand adventure, nothing more, nothing less.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it was there to balance out the mood of the story; I like that they had a "break" arc between Skypiea and Water 7/Enies Lobby. Having a big epic arc right after a big epic arc would kind of make the overall story less interesting and varied. In fact I'd like to see more short arcs like it, maybe not as lighthearted, maybe not that lighthearted at all. But just something that's somewhat a diversion to the really plot developments.
Skypiea is probably my second least favorite. I mean I give it the benefit of the doubt compared to Davy because it was actually a major story arc that had all the good old "One Piece" elements. But I agree with peleihno somewhat. I didn't dislike it enough to say, "One Piece has jumped the shark", but it was a lower point in the series. By the time they got to the big-battle-survival segment on Vearth, with all the Straw Hats going off to look for treasure and the Priests and Shandians going at it with each other, that whole portion of the arc really did feel like a slog. It just went on for way too long, it was dragging out at its worst in the series. It was worth slogging through, the Noland flashback and Luffy's fight with Eneru were great.
It's pretty sad to see Fishman Island being the least liked. It really is all fans' very high expectations.
Nah. I didn't have high expectations at all. I usually take things as they come. I just didn't like it as much for many other reasons, honestly.
I mean c'mon Davy Back Fight getting less hate? It was just a lighthearted side-trip during the grand adventure, nothing more, nothing less.
I like stuff like that a lot, actually. It was really fun. More than Fishman Island for me.
It's pretty sad to see Fishman Island being the least liked. It really is all fans' very high expectations. .
I think we're perfectly justified for having higher expectations of Fishman Island than Davy Back.
This was an arc that had been foreshadowed for ages, and was tied to at least four important characters (Arlong, Jinbe, Tiger, Whitebeard)
I think we're perfectly justified for having higher expectations of Fishman Island than Davy Back.
This was an arc that had been foreshadowed for ages, and was tied to at least four important characters (Arlong, Jinbe, Tiger, Whitebeard)
Where did I ever imply that Fishman Island didn't have more to live up to than Davy Back Fight?
Im rereading One Piece and am at the Jaya/Skypiea part of the story now. It just baffles me that people hate Jaya. Even without those great chapters were mayor characters like Buggy, Ace, Shanks and Mihawk reappear and other, even more major characters like Kuma, DeFlamingo, Sengok, Whitebeard, Blackbeard and his crew etc. are introduced, I just love the piratey feeling of the arc. I love the theme of following your dreams that runs through it. I love Bellamy as a villain and I love when Luffy just punches him out with one hit. It
s next to Sabaody to me the best short arc in One Piece.
And Skypiea…...wow. The whole adventurous atmosphere of the arc, discovering a brand new world, the world Oda builds from scratch, and to top it of it`s one of the best stories Oda has produced so far.
Hmm, Alabasta is a little tricky for me. When I started reading One Piece, it was the best arc for me, but I noticed that its only the parts that directly involve Crocodile and his Baroque Works agents that I really like. Rainbase, the fights in Alubarna (uhh, spelling?), great stuff. The parts that come before that, traveling through the desert, are kinda boring to me and Vivis flashback is probably the worst Oda has done. I also don
t care for a lot of the supporting characters in this arc, Kohza, Pell and Chaka left me all a little cold.
I'm currently waiting for a new Skypea, or DBF or Drum arc. An arc that is just its own thing, and gets by on the environment, characters, and plot of that arc alone, as a neat self contained little story package.
I was hoping Punk Hazard would be it, but now its all Schichibukai and Yonko and hidden weapons and marine conspiracies.
Where did I ever imply that Fishman Island didn't have more to live up to than Davy Back Fight?
I wasn;t implying that you were implying.
But yeah, I think as fans we ought to have had higher expectations for Fishman Island, and that explains why it's more hated than Davy Back.
I wasn;t implying that you were implying.
But yeah, I think as fans we ought to have had higher expectations for Fishman Island, and that explains why it's more hated than Davy Back.
Well thing is there's no need for any expectation in regards to something like Davy Back Fight anyway, it was just something that was there with no build-up. I don't see the problem with having expectations for something that's been foreshadowed for so long, but if you really want to enjoy something you should put those expectations aside and enjoy it for what it is.
Also I agree wholeheartedly with Daz. If there's one main thing I'm disappointed with in regards to "One Piece" is that there are these HUGE epic arcs that go on for so long and they all heavily tie into this major plot. That's all fine and dandy but on this big epic ocean called the Grand Line, I would like to see the Straw Hats make more pit stops on various islands that are just fun in-and-of themselves.
Also I agree wholeheartedly with Daz. If there's one main thing I'm disappointed with in regards to "One Piece" is that there are these HUGE epic arcs that go on for so long and they all heavily tie into this major plot. That's all fine and dandy but on this big epic ocean called the Grand Line, I would like to see the Straw Hats make more pit stops on various islands that are just fun in-and-of themselves.
Agreed. Toriko does this really well.
Toriko takes it a bit too far in the other direction though, and serves up light snacks as compared to truly well cooked and fulfilling meals, though.
Fishman Island was disappointing. It wasn't doo doo but it wasn't that great it was so predictable in my opinion. Plus we didn't get to the the famous Fishman Island Karate Dojo like come on. . . It had hype on it since the Arlong saga!
@Monkey:
How amazing! One Piece had a megalomaniac for a villain in an arc? What a rare thing, glad they don't do that in other arcs.
Who cares.
You seem to jump to conclusions very fast, I never once said I disliked him for being a megalomaniac. I just didn't like him..
And, you're right…Who cares.
I seem to struck a nerve of some sort, I do apologize.
There should exist the option NONE.
Sure, some arcs are far better than others, but nothing really bad, let alone hateable.
The poll isn't really about which arcs are "bad". It's about which arcs we didn't like.
I personally didn't like Fishman Island. It's good, I guess. The flashback is great. But I wouldn't have been reading One Piece today had the entire series been like that.
Although I like all of the arcs, my least favorite would probably be Whiskey Peak. Why the hate for Fishman Island? Then again I don't read the manga.
I would have to say my least favorite arc is Drum. Wapol was just a pretty lame villain and I didn't really care for Chopper's backstory. Other than that all the arcs were pretty awesome, although Skypia had it's lenghts (looking at you Satori -.-)
I loved all of the arcs, but I have to say i liked Davy Back Fight the least.
I'd say Island of Women/ Impel Down. I didn't like the fact that the crew was separated, and in the beginning, no information was given about them. Not to mention that I dislike Boa Hancock (how did she dare to kick a kitten !!!).
There honestly hasn't been an arc that I flat out didn't like. There are some I like less, but that's really it.
So for that I'd have to say the Kuro arc.
I can't just lump everything in the East Blue together, because Arlong was great. Everything else was meh (except of course for the Zoro v Mihawk fight during Baratie)
And, true story, even though the Davy Back arc was pretty lowsy overall, I can't hate it because of two things: 1) Afro Luffy @) This was the first time any of the Straw hats had actually seen the end of Luffy's fight. They saw the beginning part of Arlong, but the good stuff, was inside the tower. Here they all finally get to see his determination and see just how much he loves his crew.
It's also the first time, in my opinion, the crew realizes how much of a family they are.
Also, why the hate for Fishman Island? Is it because the villains were pushovers? I seriously loved that arc…
Like many other people,I didn't like the Fishman island arc.I was expecting more action and more interaction with the Straw Hats after those 2 years.Instead we got loads of episodes/chapters regarding FI's history,the princes,Van Derdecken and Hordy,things that aren't really all that important.The only intresting/important thing from that arc was Shirahoshi's abillity and the overall image of the FI.
Unlike many other say I found Fishman Island ok.I expected more but I can't say that I was bored.The fighting was poor , Hody wasn't even on Luffy's level but it has some interesting things.
My least favourite would be Drumm Island arc.I just hated that Wapol guy.I couldn't watch all the episodes.
You didn't miss chopper's flashback, RIGHT?
No,of course not.Just the fighting, it was really boring…
Two people on this page don't like Drum. One even said he didn't like Choppers back story.
…I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
Yeah, Drum is one of those nice arcs that can stand on it's own, while still being relevant to the overall plot. There's adventure, action, tearjerker and heartwarming all in one neat little package of 25 chapters/13 episodes. It's a great arc to introduce people to One Piece, actually.
Arlong and Drum are how I get people into this series. They're the perfect arcs that can stand on their own and not be too complicated for newbies.
It's way better than actually starting them at the beginning, because honestly, everything up to the Zoro v Mihawk fight is kinda cheesy.
@Nex:
Arlong and Drum are how I get people into this series. They're the perfect arcs that can stand on their own and not be too complicated for newbies.
It's way better than actually starting them at the beginning, because honestly, everything up to the Zoro v Mihawk fight is kinda cheesy.
I'd say the Buggy arc is surprisingly good. Both Kuro arc (although Kuro and Jango rock hard themselves) and Baratie arc (although the flashback is pretty hardcore and Mihawk and Gin are really cool) aren't as good, but Buggy set an example of what to expect in future One Piece arcs. A really cool arc. Short and sweet. I'd say that was a good taste of what was about to come.
Two people on this page don't like Drum. One even said he didn't like Choppers back story.
…I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
I agree completely. Drum has the most beautiful story. Hiluluk is my favorite non-recurring character. Even though I hated Wapol and he was an annoying piece of crap, just like his henchmen, it just made it even sweeter when they got beat in the end.
I used to not like Skypeia but after watching it recently, I love it x) so I'd have to go with Davy Back arc as my least favorite because of Foxy, even though Afro Luffy was awesome.
Fishman Island was kind of exactly what I was expecting, except the backstories were super awesome. Even the brothers ended up making themselves awesome.
Maybe the Davy Black arc. That arc was really annoying. I was going to say Skypia but I just remember about the guy they called a lier. Man his flashback was so so sad. Other than that, Skypia was pretty meh to me.
Lol why did so many people vote for Fishman Island?
@Naruto:
Lol why did so many people vote for Fishman Island?
Because so many people are upset that the Straw hats defeated everyone so easily.
Even though they didn't get that was one fo the main points of the arc.
Though, those people do forget that Luffy almost died and probably would have, had Jinbe not done a blood transfusion.
@Nex:
Because so many people are upset that the Straw hats defeated everyone so easily.
Even though they didn't get that was one fo the main points of the arc.Though, those people do forget that Luffy almost died and probably would have, had Jinbe not done a blood transfusion.
It wasn't the bad, we actually got learn more about the acient weapons that will play a part in the huge that's going to occur.
I thought the blood transfusion was to cheesy and cliche. I predicted it would happen as soon as sanji needed one.
It wasn't just that the Strawhats beat the NFMP easily that sucked. I was that the NFM Pirates are bad villains, they were hollow. Mere shadows of past, actually good, villains. They weren't menacing or exciting. They didn't add any intrigue to the plot of FI. They were cardboard. Vanilla. Kuro was a better villain. yea.
A villain should incite disgust from the readers (or really, any strong emotion would work). Not indifference or maybe mild annoyance.
Luffy screaming to the sky when Nami finally asked for help back at Arlong Park is one of the most remembered scenes in all of One Piece for a reason. We all hated Arlong and couldn't wait to see Luffy kick his ass. That moment would have had way less impact if we were indifferent to Arlong existence.
Now that I think about Fishman Island made Luffy look kind of weak. Luffy didn't lose that much blood in FI compared to MarineFord.
It wasn't just that the Strawhats beat the NFMP easily that sucked. I was that the NFM Pirates are bad villains, they were hollow. Mere shadows of past, actually good, villains. They weren't menacing or exciting. They didn't add any intrigue to the plot of FI. They were cardboard. Vanilla. Kuro was a better villain. yea.
A villain should incite disgust from the readers (or really, any strong emotion would work). Not indifference or maybe mild annoyance.
So the fact they were doing this just because that's the environment they grew up in isn't a good reason?
When Hody said "noting" in response to Brohoshi's "what did humans ever do to you" they instantly became great villains, because they were unlike any villain we'd seen before.
That had no motivation, they weren't out for revenge, that's just how they were raised.
The whole thing was a fantastic look at Nature vs Nurture with between them and Hachi. Hachi had interactions with Rayleigh, he knew humans weren't all bad, but at the same time Hody and many other fishmen in that generation had never interacted with humans, their only knowledge of humans were from the stories they heard.
All were a product of nurture, and they all came from the same nature, so it proved just how drastically different people can turn out based on their interactions with life.
That's why I loved it, personally.
Also, all of the new attacks were fantastic (except for Chopper's), Brook finally got some great character development, and for the first time since Morgan, we saw the Straw Hat crew get an easy victory, which was really nice after all the punishment they took.
I think that the only thing that i didn't like in One Piece was the Luffy/Ace/Sabo flashbacks
@Nex:
So the fact they were doing this just because that's the environment they grew up in isn't a good reason?
When Hody said "nothing" in response to Brohoshi's "what did humans ever do to you" they instantly became great villains, because they were unlike any villain we'd seen before.That had no motivation, they weren't out for revenge, that's just how they were raised.
The whole thing was a fantastic look at Nature vs Nurture with between them and Hachi. Hachi had interactions with Rayleigh, he knew humans weren't all bad, but at the same time Hody and many other fishmen in that generation had never interacted with humans, their only knowledge of humans were from the stories they heard.
All were a product of nurture, and they all came from the same nature, so it proved just how drastically different people can turn out based on their interactions with life.
That's why I loved it, personally.
This. So much this.
@Naruto:
Now that I think about Fishman Island made Luffy look kind of weak. Luffy didn't lose that much blood in FI compared to MarineFord.
That's because Luffy didn't have a big gash on his upper shoulder that began to worsen and stretch open due to him overexerting himself.
I did not like Skypea's lenght (it took too many chapter) for being filler because there was no real substantial consequence to the overrall plot. Enel did not really have any depth (he was just being the villain). However, I freaking loved Gedatsu and some of the jokes.
No real consequence to the over all plot?
lolwut?
We learned Roger had been there and could read/understand the poneglyphs, we learned about the ancient weapon that we now know to be Shirahoshi, we learned some very interesting things towards the possible origins of the one piece world, it introduced dials into the story, as well as establishing that islands in the sky do exist, thus making it possible for Nami to go to Weatheria, and finally, Skypeia is what led to Merry's death.
Skypeia is very, very important to the main plot, and did more world building in One-Piece than perhaps any other arc.
Every single one of the main arcs in One-Piece have been important to the plot. Oda doesn't do filler.
I can KIND OF understand why someone would think that about the actual sky adventuring.
But there is NO arc that is more important to the overall plot, than the Jaya arc.
Adding to what Nex wrote on the importance of Skypiea and how it relates to the One Piece world we:
~Learn of mantra for the first time, or as it is formally called on the blue ocean, Haki.
~Aliens are formally introduced to the One Piece world, which opens up a lot of interesting future possibilities.
~Enel still has plenty of potential to return and be a major player in the series as it progresses.
Not to mention an end goal for the series: Raftel and the Rio Poneglyph.
Also, the Sky People's origins will likely be related to the Void Century, so…
I liked the nfp as villains and yet I voted the fishman arc for the one I like the least. For me both the flashback and the story feel incompleted. (That doesn't mean I didn't like it, it's just my least favourite for the moment)
Davy Back.
PS - After what time can i vote on any of the polls?
I think that the only thing that i didn't like in One Piece was the Luffy/Ace/Sabo flashbacks
Dude, those were amazing. I just hate how the arc was after Ace died and not before, the impact of Ace his death would be much more emotionally severe for me.