I think they meant Smoker with "M".
Cause the chapter before you saw that unit that was torturing the pirates, I think that those where the unit.
Chapter 656: "Adventure on the Burning Island"
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Now THAT was a weird chapter xD
I like that Zoro cuts the dragon's head just like Ryuuma did in Monsters. And of course Luffy wants the Legs to join his crew. xD
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The dragon was dumb as a brick; it deserved to die. Zoro beheading the dragon was epic,
Yes, like most animals in the world. So kill them all! All of them!
Seriously people, where is the love?
Zoro fans always yell about his epicness, but oh well..In fact, I was really shocked when Zoro cut the dragon's head. They could just beat him, or find some other way, but no..
I really hate this new Zoro's way of solving problems - cut to hell, make fanboys happy. -
I'm sad the dragon got killed. :(
Meh, it was an awesome chapter anyways.
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:shocked: 14 pages….and its mostly "it has to be Buggy/Law" and a few "Maybe Doflomingo"
Wait...there's a "legs for namaka!" .... there it is again ..... and again! ...ah something different, "torso for namaka!"More of "It's Buggy <- I'm so calling it" (never mind others called it for the past 10 pages) a nice chang....ah no its not a change, solid reasons have been given repeatedly why Buggy is the least likely.
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gah I want to walk out of this repeating cycle so bad but its sooooooo boring I find myself being entertained (just a little bit ...it IS better than playing solitaire) reading itDon't forget Vegapunk. every arc has hundreds of people "calling it" that its vegapunk behind it all.
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According to two years ago, Law had to create a spherical area when using his DF, he was only able to seperate body parts WITHIN that sphere. And as someone has mentioned above, Oda would not go for an obvious person. So i still doubt that Law is responsible for the Leg guy.
he can seperate in the sphere. The parts don't magically go back to where they were originally when out of the sphere.
Also its been two years, his sphere could have enlarged from how small it was before.
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I think they meant Smoker with "M".
Cause the chapter before you saw that unit that was torturing the pirates, I think that those where the unit.Considering Smoker has gone entirely KGB in his methods of capturing and detaining pirates, this may be possible, but a few things don't gel in making this likely. First, Smoker would have to have gone awfully far in a short amount of time, unless the Strawhats were wandering much longer than shown in the previous chapter. Also, despite Smoker's new persona, I still have some doubts he would be that underhanded in capturing pirates. Lastly, the people capturing the remaining Strawhats were talking as if they didn't even know there were pirates on board until they were on deck (and never referred to them as the Strawhat Pirates), and were pleased because "no one would miss them." This strongly indicates shanghaiing, slavery, kidnapping, or murder rather than having them turned over to the WG.
Heck, you know what? This whole discussion made me think that this Shichibukai "Legs" mentioned might be Kuma, who is able to "teleport" people to far away places in less than a day (no idea about how he could split "Legs"). This idea might be stupid and baseless, but I find it crazy enough to consider it possible (not probable, just possible).
Heh, I like the idea of Kuma sending a split portion of a person half-across the Grand Line, never to he whole again
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The capturers are from Punk Hazard. Them belonging to Smoker would make no sense.
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I'm not sure, the samurai's parts would be put back together long as he's outside the sphere. Other wise, he would die.
Again, this was only 2 years ago. We still didn't know how much Law improved on his ability now.
You should go back and reread Saobady.
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Yeah it would make no sense. Smoker probably still isn't even there
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The case for Law being one is a bit harder because while he had a decently sized bounty he was a rookie and not that well known so why would the World Government give the position to him? But it has been two years so Law might have did something similar to Blackbeard and showed off enough that they chose him.
Hancock was a rookie when she was made a Shichibukai; in fact, her bounty at the time was only 80 million, which is much lower than Law's was.
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Hancock was a rookie when she was made a Shichibukai; in fact, her bounty at the time was only 80 million, which is much lower than Law's was.
true but u have to know she is princess and leader to kuja pirates , they are totally famous female Warriors
and marine ships was attacked before by them so world government make
Agreement to let marine ships pass the calm pelt In turn boa will be Shichibukai,she is not normal rookie in this time
but law is normal rookie like all supernova
just ask yourself why the government never ask luffy to be a Shichibukai ?
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Hancock was a rookie when she was made a Shichibukai; in fact, her bounty at the time was only 80 million, which is much lower than Law's was.
Hancock obtained an 80 million bounty after her first campaign and being leader of the Kuja pirates (who I think are well known for their haki as well), the WG saw her potential and decided to make her part of the Shichibukai.
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Why are people making such a fuss about Zoro killing the Dragon? Just because it's a dragon?
It attacked them seriously with dangerous attacks and afterwards they made it quite clear that they want to eat it. How is this any different than sea kings etc.?
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we know nothing about law and how he obtained his bounty. For all we know he is very well suitable for the title of shichibukai. As for Luffy, he destroyed or invaded the 3 major strongholds of the marines. so first of all they know they can't trust him (certainly sibce he declared war upon them) and secondly I think they know Luffy would say no
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Why are people making such a fuss about Zoro killing the Dragon? Just because it's a dragon?
It attacked them seriously with dangerous attacks and afterwards they made it quite clear that they want to eat it. How is this any different than sea kings etc.?
Personally I just wanted to learn more about it. Though now i'm fully expecting another dragon that breaths cold flames for us to learn about. For a moment I just assumed this dragon would be the only one.
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we know nothing about law and how he obtained his bounty. For all we know he is very well suitable for the title of shichibukai. As for Luffy, he destroyed or invaded the 3 major strongholds of the marines. so first of all they know they can't trust him (certainly sibce he declared war upon them) and secondly I think they know Luffy would say no
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Oh come on, not this again…
5 of them get captured the rest need to save them again. I thought Sanji would at least felt "evil" presence or something, and they all get owned by the gas....
I don't know, of course I'll wait for the development but I dislike the start of this "arc", it screams another "rescue" arc to me.
Hmmm, they're always getting kidnapped and locked, but only twice did they need to get rescued. (Not counting Ace) And one of them wasn't really a hard job.
Its just a way to get half of the crew on the other side of the island.But am I the only one thinking this?
-Brooke can't sail the ship.
-Smoker's fleet/ship is coming.
-Smoker will see Sunny- Smoker will obviously rush to the island, and order the minions to get a hold of Sunny-go.
- Brooke vs the whole platoon (-Smoker and Tashigi)…
Just the picture of Brooke over a pile of frozen bodies, singing... I know I'm 99,999% wrong, but I can't help but like the idea. Kind of like Zoro in Whiskey Peak, but up to eleven.
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Hmmm, they're always getting kidnapped and locked, but only twice did they need to get rescued. (Not counting Ace) And one of them wasn't really a hard job.
Its just a way to get half of the crew on the other side of the island.But am I the only one thinking this?
-Brooke can't sail the ship.
-Smoker's fleet/ship is coming.
-Smoker will see Sunny- Smoker will obviously rush to the island, and order the minions to get a hold of Sunny-go.
- Brooke vs the whole platoon (-Smoker and Tashigi)…
Just the picture of Brooke over a pile of frozen bodies, singing... I know I'm 99,999% wrong, but I can't help but like the idea. Kind of like Zoro in Whiskey Peak, but up to eleven.
I didn't think about that at all. I'd love for Brook to fend of just an attack or 2 from Smoker and all his goons before running off into the ocean and NOT getting captured.
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Yes, like most animals in the world. So kill them all! All of them!
Seriously people, where is the love?
Zoro fans always yell about his epicness, but oh well..In fact, I was really shocked when Zoro cut the dragon's head. They could just beat him, or find some other way, but no..
I really hate this new Zoro's way of solving problems - cut to hell, make fanboys happy.I REALLY like how you left my sarcasm out of context.
And the "epicness" I referred to was the redrawn scene from Monsters, in the aesthetic sense.
And yes. animals. KILL THEM ALL!!!
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Well I really dont think that the guys on Sunny is the Heart pirates. They would have recognize the Strawhats from the past. But it could likely be Law that has attached the lower part of the samurai to the dragon and then took of to a new island… or something..
(And thats why the samurai will join the crew, his goal is to find the bastards that seperate his body apart :ninja: )
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true but u have to know she is princess and leader to kuja pirates , they are totally famous female Warriors
and marine ships was attacked before by them so world government make
Agreement to let marine ships pass the calm pelt In turn boa will be Shichibukai,she is not normal rookie in this time
but law is normal rookie like all supernova
just ask yourself why the government never ask luffy to be a Shichibukai ?
bounty 400 million and before TS was 300 million and his grandfather is marine hero !Well, it would be stupid of the WG to consider a guy that declared war against them to work for them.
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It would also be stupid of the WG to ally up for the son of Dragon. Let us not forget the reason the WG wanted to take out Luffy so badly at Marineford was because he's the son of Dragon.
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I really hate this new Zoro's way of solving problems - cut to hell, make fanboys happy.
…There's absolutely nothing new about that. That's literally been Zoro's M.O. since he was introduced. It's the exact same situation with the Sandora Lizard they encountered in Alabasta. Popped out of nowhere, was a giant mythical creature (to the Alabastans), and the Monster Trio one-shotted it. Same deal with the Humandrills on Kuraigana Island; he was totally outnumbered and seemed to lose assuredly, but through raw determination and swordplay he defeated every single one before heading back to Mihawk. He cut 'em to hell. Not sure what you mean by "this new Zoro".
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Maybe my interpretation is off, but in CCC's spoiler translation says this "Dragon: Bu… but this coolness is strange. These flames are cool!!" Maybe the other half of his body was feeling cold fire. So I think there is plenty to think there is an ice dragon.
It's possible of course, I'm just not convinced by the evidence so far. Would certainly be interesting and cool, but we don't know if there's a dragon on each half of the island, or it's just a winter island that's been half-immolated by a normal dragon.
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Well, it would be stupid of the WG to consider a guy that declared war against them to work for them.
i'm totally sure it's reason but when luffy defeat Mr.0 in past , he already help the W.g and aokij already say it
so why the WG never ask him or at least take attention about this point
, when B.beard deliver ace to Marine he got the rank and his bounty was zerothey are know already about the Shichibukai loyal not to WG like dof say he will quit the Shichibukai when get bored from rank .
and if buggy is the new Shichibukai !
buggy as well enter the war with ID prisoners and fight against the marine ,
one of gol d roger pirates, his crew mate Mr.3 who saved ace with candle
so why the GW will choose him !?It would also be stupid of the WG to ally up for the son of Dragon. Let us not forget the reason the WG wanted to take out Luffy so badly at Marineford was because he's the son of Dragon.
omg guys i just say the bounty is not the reason to be Shichibukai
for sure i'm not ask to know how the GW is stupid !
@dedo1231:yeah ….
but all i want to say the bounty is not reason to be Shichibukai , there is another reasons to get this rankanyway just forget the question let's talk about PH
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i'm totally sure it's reason but when luffy defeat Mr.0 in past , he already help the W.g and aokij already say it
so why the WG never ask him or at least take attention about this point
, when B.beard deliver ace to Marine he got the rank and his bounty was zerothey are know already about the Shichibukai loyal not to WG like dof say he will quit the Shichibukai when get bored from rank .
and if buggy is the new Shichibukai !
buggy as well enter the war with ID prisoners and fight against the marine ,
one of gol d roger pirates, his crew mate Mr.3 who saved ace with candle
so why the GW will choose him !?Luffy was still relatively unknown at the time. Blackbeard too, but he was a pirate that had the desire to work for the WG (which is very rare), so BB was given a chance to prove himself before the WG could go after somebody else.
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I swear, some of the people on here are acting like this is going to be their last time seeing a dragon in One Piece.
If there's one dragon, then there obviously has to be more of them.Zoro killing one dragon isn't that big of a deal.
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Yes, like most animals in the world. So kill them all! All of them!
Seriously people, where is the love?
Zoro fans always yell about his epicness, but oh well..In fact, I was really shocked when Zoro cut the dragon's head. They could just beat him, or find some other way, but no..
I really hate this new Zoro's way of solving problems - cut to hell, make fanboys happy.Love the sarcasm, but you're wrong on "Zoro's new way". He's like this from the begining.
When they followed her to Arlong Park and before finding out why she betrayed them, Usopp said they needed to find where she docked the ship, Zoro threatened to kill her. http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-070/page001.html
Once they gotten into the Grand Line and Mr.9 & Ms Wednesday (vivi) on the Cactus Island, Zoro slashed his way though the Bounty hunters. When Luffy got mad, not uderstanding the 'friends' were enemies, he and Zoro violently fought, Zoro even slashing Luffy's chest. Thoguh the ch 108 does give you support in arguement. We see Zoro slashing the bounty hunters but don't see any of them actually dead. I think Oda shows the death of creatures more ealily than humans,The thing is that Zoro has always been that way.
Don't forget Vegapunk. every arc has hundreds of people "calling it" that its vegapunk behind it all.
Slaps head… yeah we go through over 10 pages of talks ans people pop up thinking they are the first to say it...if they bothered to read just a few pages before posting they are calling it. :wassat: It may not have been this thread but I even saw someone claiming they are "calling it" on Big Mom being Lola's mom. Really I almost felt sorry for telling them that over a hundred has "called that" since Big Mom was first mentioned nearly years ago at end of war.
we know nothing about law and how he obtained his bounty. For all we know he is very well suitable for the title of shichibukai. As for Luffy, he destroyed or invaded the 3 major strongholds of the marines. so first of all they know they can't trust him (certainly sibce he declared war upon them) and secondly I think they know Luffy would say no
Yeah we never know the facts behind Law's reputation, only the slight mention from Scratchman Apoo that Law "is infamous for his cruelty" http://www.mangareader.net/103-50569-4/one-piece/chapter-581.html
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Thanks redon!!! Everything just got clearer without all the "stupid" theories!!! XD XD XD
- M stands for Master
- The split body was the doing of a SHICHIBUKAI (unless there are other powers like Law's we can assume it's him)
- The suits people know that SHs ARE PIRATES so that's why they captured them
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Thanks redon!!! Everything just got clearer without all the "stupid" theories!!! XD XD XD
- M stands for Master
- The split body was the doing of a SHICHIBUKAI (unless there are other powers like Law's we can assume it's him)
- The suits people know that SHs ARE PIRATES so that's why they captured them
thanks man..
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I like that the dragon actually put up a fight,and how everyone was needed.Seeing Usopp using trampolia was fantastic.
Also,I noticed that Zoro only used the sword in his mouth to cut the dragon….Thats hard-core.His mouth/teeth/neck must be made of titanium lol.
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I swear, some of the people on here are acting like this is going to be their last time seeing a dragon in One Piece.
If there's one dragon, then there obviously has to be more of them.Zoro killing one dragon isn't that big of a deal.
HURR DRAGON COULD HAVE BEEN A PET DURRR
Must be the reason for the rage.
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I don't really get all the rage about Zoro cutting a dragon.
They act like One Piece has been full of animal loving and kindness.Think back to Little Garden, heads of dinosaurs cut off, and Sanji and Zoro both killing animals almost purely for sport:
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2235-17/one-piece/chapter-128.htmlThe dragon seemed determined to kill Luffy and Zoro, so it seems rather rational.
I like that Oda made the Dragon powerful though. It made the New World seem as dangerous as it really was made out to be.
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You know what's cool about this arc so far? In the last arc, there was no threat whatsoever to the SHs. The enemy and island locals were so weak that even Usopp seemed like a titan in a paper city. Here, the crew got KOed early. With half the crew caught, the Strawhat's are already in danger and at a disadvantage! It's a great change of pace.
About Law, my only issue with Law becoming a shichibukai–he helped Luffy escape in the Paramount War. While the WG has shown a lot of leeway for the shichibukai, it seems like this would be the limit. It's something that took priority to killing Whitebeard if I remember right. It could go either way, if Law is a shichiubkai then we'll probably see the best example of the WG's forgiveness for pirates.
About the dragon....dragons are cool. I admit I was a little sad to see it die, despite it being a little stupid looking (but still cool, being a dragon), but hey it was self defense. Plus, how awesome is it to see Zoro match Ryuma right there?
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I wonder if there will be another dragon, and I wonder if it will be smarter and cooler. The dragon in this chapter was very generic. Of course, the generic-ness made the dragon easy to kill off.
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sigh I wish the anime was past the FI stuff now cause I want to hear Zoro say that new attack. Yay for the upgraded attacks. At least they aren't totally dropping their older stuff, just leveling it up a by a ton.
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Plus, how awesome is it to see Zoro match Ryuma right there?
This awesome ->….................Really awesome.
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You know what's cool about this arc so far? In the last arc, there was no threat whatsoever to the SHs. The enemy and island locals were so weak that even Usopp seemed like a titan in a paper city. Here, the crew got KOed early. With half the crew caught, the Strawhat's are already in danger and at a disadvantage! It's a great change of pace.
Totally agree with you man. The enemies on FI are too simple and pathetic even compared to many major enemies the Strawhats fought before the time skip. It seems Oda spent far more time designing the setting than the villain and fight development. When he actually had to depict the fights, he dragged out the fighting unnecessarily and then had the Strawhats 1-hit all their opponents, except Luffy, who had an enemy that could be really dangerous if he could only land a critical hit on Luffy.
About Law, my only issue with Law becoming a shichibukai–he helped Luffy escape in the Paramount War. While the WG has shown a lot of leeway for the shichibukai, it seems like this would be the limit. It's something that took priority to killing Whitebeard if I remember right. It could go either way, if Law is a shichiubkai then we'll probably see the best example of the WG's forgiveness for pirates.
At first, I wanted to disagree but I didn't, because all my arguments were shallow. In addition, I could see Law's crew getting caught, but he gives himself and his loyalty to the WG in exchange for sparing Bepo. And his crew too. I didn't forget about them >_>
About the dragon….dragons are cool. I admit I was a little sad to see it die, despite it being a little stupid looking (but still cool, being a dragon), but hey it was self defense. Plus, how awesome is it to see Zoro match Ryuma right there?
Zoro almost matched Ryuma in my shallow opinion, but that's only because Ryuma was forced to kill it in one hit. Zoro kind of played around with it. Obviously, so did Luffy.
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Trafalgar Law seems like the most likely culprit for the torsoless samurai but I doubt it would be so simple or that they would so quickly reiintroduce him in such a fashion. I think most likely there is some other power involved. Which makes he wonder if Nico Robin's will be their's ace in the sleeve. I am guessing people trying to modify and control her body are in for quite a surprise
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I'm about 95% sure that Law is responsible for the half-samurai thing. While we have seen a few cases where other people's DF can produce flat body part cuts (Buggy, DonFlamingo), Law's is the only one that can also artificially stick things together. From what we can tell the legs were simply attached by no visible means (robin even mentions there's no indication it was there) which is presumably similar to Law's ability to not only cut things up but also to put them back together in unusual ways.
Also, yeah I think Robin would be a great counter to Law's DF power. It's be about damn time too, as she hasn't had a good 1v1 fight in almost 400 chapters.
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I'm not with the Law theory, but here is a possibility: Law's sword is a samurai one, though Law is not a samurai type of fighter !? Maybe he stole it from this samurai, or from his tribe ?
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I'm not with the Law theory, but here is a possibility: Law's sword is a samurai one, though Law is not a samurai type of fighter !? Maybe he stole it from this samurai, or from his tribe ?
How's that any MORE of a good theory than Law being on the island and responsible for the Half-Samurai?! I know that wasn't related at all but where's ANY support on this? Most swords in OP are katanas! Where they all stolen from Samurai? I really doubt that.
/the following is not directed at you specifically, sorry if it sounds aggressive./Seriously, some of the "theories" that pop up are just pure fan-fiction with NO supporting evidence whatsoever.. I know that this is kind of the point but it gets really frustrating when people continue actually believing in it and making up evidence to support their case.
Buggy is NOT behind this, he can't be, his fruit has nothing to do with "halving" someone beside himself. It's just not a possibility within the OP universe and the powers of his fruit, plus, the Legs wouldn't be stuck to the dragon then. Don't go about suggesting that he "honed his skills" and can now apply it to other people that's just plain redundant thinking and stupid. The only explanations so far that I can THINK of are either Law being responsible, because THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HIS POWERS DO! - or the Samurai himself having an unknown ability (which is not probable since Buggy's fruit already is about splitting oneself.)
There's always a lot of things open to interpretation in a new chapter, but just try and keep it reasonable.
PH=Punk Hazard. Those guys are, in any way, FROM the facility. What that MEANS is left to be answered.
-> Things to rule out: those guys being Law's crew or Smoker's guys. I mean, seriously?Legs=Samurai. If there's more than one, if this is the one that stabbed the guy on the cold part, is left to be seen. Why exactly and how he got stuck to the dragon - left to be seen.
-> Again, there's always things we can rule out though. Including Buggy. Or that this is the guy we saw on the cover with Crocus. Or that he's Shiki (whoever came up with that thought in the first place?!)Dragon: Probably not the only one, it'd not seem right - it's still possible Luffy heard him thinking, from that last panel of chapter 655. This chapter, however, he didn't. Just "Gurororo-ing" all over the place, which I personally loved.
-> Things to rule out: Being a Zoan.Anything else?! Feel free to challenge me on these points if you really feel like it. But I'd think most reasonable people here see it the same way.
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I can THINK of are either Law being responsible, because THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HIS POWERS DO!
or the Samurai himself having an unknown ability
100% agree with u
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in chapter 595 :
i'm totally sure it's mean something important : Here
[hide]why law is want to stay in grandline more time ?[/hide]at the end.. i'm sure law will be one of main characters in story
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I personally don't see how the Buggy theory could be probable, there seems to be too many flaws with it, which many have already pointed out.
First of all, the Straw Hats showed no inclination of hearing the Dragon's voice before, seeing that they have encountered Buggy numerous times, it seems strange that they are unable to even slightly recognize his voice. Next, the theory that Buggy managed to improve his skills with his DF to use his powers on others. I am very skeptical about this idea. I don't recall any Df user being able to alter the original concept of their Df to such an extent. Even if it were possible, how would it work? It seems like it would be quite complicated to manipulate his ability in such a way, is Buggy really capable of that? Not to mention if Buggy was able to do that with his power, what would be the point of Law's devil fruit? They would then essentially cover the same uses.
To me at least, it seems more likely that "Legs" is a Samurai of sorts. The attire that he appeared to be wearing. Ofcourse people's appearance can change in two years, but this design doesn't suit Buggy at all, and the relative body shape and size doesn't match his either. The clothes match what one would normally associate with a Samurai's apparel, well at least the bottom half. And finally the whole concept of sensing auras. I am not trying to doubt any development for Buggy over the timeskip, but sensing auras not only doesn't fit his character design but seems like it again exceeds his capabilities. On the other hand the ability makes a lot more sense whilst being associated with Samurais, who should ideally have adept senses and reflexes to be able to be such proficient sword users.
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100% agree with u
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in chapter 595 :
i'm totally sure it's mean something important : Here
[hide]why law is want to stay in grandline more time ?[/hide]at the end.. i'm sure law will be one of main characters in story
"Where there is a position I need… I'll take it!"
Hmm, Shichibukai position perhaps?
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"Where there is a position I need… I'll take it!"
Hmm, Shichibukai position perhaps?
That's taking the line too literally. What he means is that he'll play strategically and not desperately.
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That's taking the line too literally. What he means is that he'll play strategically and not desperately.
Exactly. The brazilian dudes translanted his line as "I'll make sure to take the right position".
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I'm happy with the direction this chapter took, I was concerned by the introduction of a talking Dragon as many stories use creatures like this in a predictable manner to save the day after the main character(s) befriend them and are later rewarded with an asspull. This new character seems interesting, I want to know how his physical appearance is able to be like that, whether it's a DF ability, a freak scientific accident or something else. Either way it's certainly an unexpected twist. I can't say though that I'm supporting the decision to have him join the crew until I know a little bit more about this top-less man.