@RobbyBevard:
That was my doing. Did it a long while back in fact. I'm a big Slayers fan. I couldn't sit idly by while Xellos was in our midst for seven years with no image at all!
You can take it off if you want.
No it's okay, thanks :-)
@RobbyBevard:
That was my doing. Did it a long while back in fact. I'm a big Slayers fan. I couldn't sit idly by while Xellos was in our midst for seven years with no image at all!
You can take it off if you want.
No it's okay, thanks :-)
Heh, MS went up while I was in class. They only really screwed up two pages (though I will say that they were the two most difficult pages).
http://mangastream.com/read/hunter_x_hunter/12221882/12
On this page, Tsubone is talking about Killua. Remember, she's in the hospital with him, not out watching Illumi.
My translation (Tsubone's words are kind of loosely translated to make them sound better in English). Italics=thoughts, and I'm too lazy to type characters' names more than once, so any subsequent lines are marked with the first letter of their names.
[hide]Illumi: I thought so.
I: There’s a rule that doesn’t apply to KilluaI: Does it not apply “Because it’s Killua”
I: or is it “Because it’s after you made a wish for something to be healed”? I need to find out.
Phone: Yeah, I get it.I: Either way . . . the power to destroy . . . the power to heal . . .
I: If I can harness that power, it will become an unparalleled toolTsubone: Wicked, inhuman boy
T: Even though you have left the path of the assassin, you have such wicked designsT: You’re doing such a cruel thing
T: Didn’t you suffer when you were the one being controlled?[/hide]http://mangastream.com/read/hunter_x_hunter/12221882/13
Pretty sure my translation is more accurate for this page, too. I don't guarentee 100% accuracy, but I think it's better.
[hide]Killua: Alluka is only awake when Nanika is sleeping. It seems like Alluka is around a lot, but she’s really not.
K: Alluka’s only there during the time after someone fails to meet Nanika’s “pesterings,” until the next person gets “pesterings” returned to level 1
K: when Nanika’s “pesterings” are interrupted by the one being pestered leaving her
K: and after Nanika heals something and falls asleep but before a wish is asked of Alluka and granted
K: The best thing would be
K: for this to be the last wish
K: and to never ask anything of Nanika again[/hide]Maybe that clears a few things up? I hope anyway.
Anyway, it seems like Nanika is the one doing all the serious pestering and all the wish granting. Killua has promised to be with Alluka always. So, it would seem like hidden within the rules of when Alluka "exists" is a way to make Nanika cease to exist, and that is what Killua is aiming for. Which is why Tsubone calls him cruel. After all, he just said a few chapters ago that Nanika is actually very kind.
Also . . . last chapter, Ging was manipulating Cheadle into giving Leorio an advantage? Heh. I like. And there's no way he'll give up his dream of being a doctor that easily. Not after all he went through to become a hunter. He'll just have to do both. Pariston is still worrisome, though.
Oh nice! That is much much clearer, thank you kindly~
So Killua's second motive after healing Gon is freeing Alluka… It doesn't seem like it can all work out that smoothly, I'm dreading the upset here.
Amazing chapter. The tension is higher than Everest!
why is hxh shitting so hard right now on? tell me!
togashi is THAT mofo for building up all this incredible plot. that drawing of nanika on the last panel gave me the creep. super excited for next week. what are the odds of pariston speech will be the same as fei tang in york shin when he pretended as the mc? lol
'let's cut to the chase and… DIE~'
(5000 ant army came outta nowhere. massacre)
Love. it. all.
Leorio's speech? Hilarious and honest.
So many things to look forward to in the next chapters! Gon being saved. Pariston's speech. Hisoka's whereabouts. Illumi's plotting. The remaining butlers. What Killua and Alluka do next! Kurapika's whereabouts! Ants! And It's all so great cause we know that Togashi is an author that will address his plot points. It may take years but he doesn't seem to forget his characters, their wants and needs.
Lol loved Leorio speech,the lines were bit confusing probably bad trans ,looking foward to Partison speech but im more curious about after this what will be Alluka state if small fix made her sleep.
Leorio is now Ging approved, I love it! XD Definitely started reading this manga at the right time, I would have gone nuts without getting this kind of anticipation in weekly doses!
Heh, MS went up while I was in class. They only really screwed up two pages (though I will say that they were the two most difficult pages).
http://mangastream.com/read/hunter_x_hunter/12221882/12
On this page, Tsubone is talking about Killua. Remember, she's in the hospital with him, not out watching Illumi.
My translation (Tsubone's words are kind of loosely translated to make them sound better in English). Italics=thoughts, and I'm too lazy to type characters' names more than once, so any subsequent lines are marked with the first letter of their names.
[hide]Illumi: I thought so.
I: There’s a rule that doesn’t apply to KilluaI: Does it not apply “Because it’s Killua”
I: or is it “Because it’s after you made a wish for something to be healed”? I need to find out.
Phone: Yeah, I get it.I: Either way . . . the power to destroy . . . the power to heal . . .
I: If I can harness that power, it will become an unparalleled toolTsubone: Wicked, inhuman boy
T: Even though you have left the path of the assassin, you have such wicked designsT: You’re doing such a cruel thing
T: Didn’t you suffer when you were the one being controlled?[/hide]http://mangastream.com/read/hunter_x_hunter/12221882/13
Pretty sure my translation is more accurate for this page, too. I don't guarentee 100% accuracy, but I think it's better.
[hide]Killua: Alluka is only awake when Nanika is sleeping. It seems like Alluka is around a lot, but she’s really not.
K: Alluka’s only there during the time after someone fails to meet Nanika’s “pesterings,” until the next person gets “pesterings” returned to level 1
K: when Nanika’s “pesterings” are interrupted by the one being pestered leaving her
K: and after Nanika heals something and falls asleep but before a wish is asked of Alluka and granted
K: The best thing would be
K: for this to be the last wish
K: and to never ask anything of Nanika again[/hide]Maybe that clears a few things up? I hope anyway.
Anyway, it seems like Nanika is the one doing all the serious pestering and all the wish granting. Killua has promised to be with Alluka always. So, it would seem like hidden within the rules of when Alluka "exists" is a way to make Nanika cease to exist, and that is what Killua is aiming for. Which is why Tsubone calls him cruel. After all, he just said a few chapters ago that Nanika is actually very kind.
Also . . . last chapter, Ging was manipulating Cheadle into giving Leorio an advantage? Heh. I like. And there's no way he'll give up his dream of being a doctor that easily. Not after all he went through to become a hunter. He'll just have to do both. Pariston is still worrisome, though.
Yeah, I think you're right. There's a reason why I used "pesterings" in those translations I did, because it's misleading which "request/wish" thing is which otherwise. Also that's the more literal interpretation of that word. Like I said when the chapter came out it's little requests that children make.
And I think you got Tsubone's line right, too. Molokidan mixes up the subject like that sometimes, or misattributes a meaning, but HXH is very hard grammar wise and it's easy to miss things.
Oh shit Leorio right actually become president. I always thought he was bait, distraction, red herring and with everybody else deferring to him Parisiton is screwed. I can only thihnk of a backroom deal being made where Leorio becomes chairman and then immediately steps down and makes somebody like Cheadle president. Although I see Parisiton the type of guy to approach Leorio.
Hey klet, thanks a lot for the translation of these particular pages, I really didn't get it until I saw you translation.
Great chapter. I already heard some people suggesting Leorio having a real chance to win the election, and I never really believed it, but this chapter changed my mind about the whole situation. With Leorio having so much support, from all the voters, Ging and Cheadle and later supposedly the rest of the zodiac, I'm certain that whatever will happen, it will lead to some very interesting stuff about one of my favorite characters, and maybe even put him in a situation where I never expected him to be.
Next chapter is going to be incredibly important. The last chance for Pariston do draw an ace up his sleeve. Was kind of great to see him lose his eternal smile, though. And finally an resolution to the whole Gon forcefully aging himself situation and maybe even one for the whole Alluka affair, albeit It wouldn't surprise me if that will go on for 3-5 more chapters, depends on how Togashi intends to wrap this arc up.
Edit: I have been thinking for a while now about the possibility of Nanika restoring Gon to his original status, but maybe not completely restore his former Nen capacity to be point that he can use it conveniently right after she's healed him. Not like a training arc, just a reasonable amount of time you would think someone needs to spend in bed, after skipping many years of his life and getting completely restored to his former self. We don't know how this is actually going to work, but maybe Gon's body will be completely fixed and functional again, but with side effects like weak limbs, breathing difficulty, stuff like that. Could give the other characters like Kurapika, Hanzo, Leorio, etc. more time to shine.
Best.Fuc*king.Chapter.Ever. Absolutely loved it!
@Zik:
Oh shit Leorio right actually become president. I always thought he was bait, distraction, red herring and with everybody else deferring to him Parisiton is screwed. I can only thihnk of a backroom deal being made where Leorio becomes chairman and then immediately steps down and makes somebody like Cheadle president. Although I see Parisiton the type of guy to approach Leorio.
If Leorio becomes chairman, he's definitely not going to have the position immediately given to Cheadle. Cheadle made it perfectly clear this chapter she genuinely believes with their support, Leorio could go on to be a great chairman.
Best.Fuc*king.Chapter.Ever. Absolutely loved it!
If Leorio becomes chairman, he's definitely not going to have the position immediately given to Cheadle. Cheadle made it perfectly clear this chapter she genuinely believes with their support, Leorio could go on to be a great chairman.
Well yeah she said that but I'm saying is if Leorio really doesn't want the job as chairman he could just order Cheadle to take the job or anybody else he feels is suited.
Maybe we'll get some leorio chairman in training chapters, where a few of the zodiacs help him to become a strong chairman.
Oh man, this chapter has certainly elevated the thermal climate in the region buried beneath my collar.
Leorio's speech was fantastic. Enough said right there.
I wonder what Pariston's plotting now. He's under pressure to act now. Is he going to delay the vote or is he do something vaguely more murderous?
@Zik:
Well yeah she said that but I'm saying is if Leorio really doesn't want the job as chairman he could just order Cheadle to take the job or anybody else he feels is suited.
I think the most likely outcome in this case would be him turning over control for the time it takes him to finish medical school. I imagine he understands the kind of good he can do for the world by directing some of the hunter organization's services to those in need.
I love this manga so much.
Every time I don't think I could love it any more than I already do, Togashi outdoes himself and I spend the next hour or so AHGAHAGHAGAHGAHAGHAGHing.
Leoriooooooo you need to be the chairmannnnnnn
But this is Togashi and something horrible is going to happen and god damn it I can't wait until next week.
I just had a thought… remember Mazaistorm (Ox) mentioning several chapters ago that more disappearances have occurred since Pariston became Vice Chairman? That just seems like a huge Chekov's gun to me... Perhaps Pariston intends to do more than just release a horde of hungry baby ants on the Hunter Association... maybe he has the ability to absorb a Hunter's Nen abilities and copy them as his own... only without restriction, like Kuroro's Book of Thieves.
I kinda just want the possibility of Leorio being back in the field active in an arc like he was and not just when it's a Hunter mission that needs the chairman to be apart of it (not that he's comparable in strength or pin intelligence). Unless Leorio becomes one of those types that kinda ignores his duties and does his own thing.
Would be interesting if the zodiac decided support him fully after he won. It'd be interesting since he doesn't even has two stars as a Hunter.
Holy, this was a fantastic chapter.
Good ol' Leorio with that straightforward and honest speech. Awesome guy. LEORIO FOR PRESIDENT.
And Pariston finally losing that annoying smirk? YES PLEASE.
It's been said before and i'll say it some more. Leorio's speach made this chapter. I cannot wait for next week
I don't think Leorio is going to win. Or at least, I just can't see Pariston not getting what he wants. Even if he loses the seat, I still see him obtaining his goal.
I hate to bandwagon. But man. Togashi's story is so much more interesting that Oda's right now. Just proves what I've long said I suppose. That if he didn't take all the breaks, his story would easily be competing with OP.
Among the older crowd anyway. Its not universal enough to ever reach OP's levels of popularity. But storywise its the one title that can go toe to toe. He's built some crazy suspense on multiple fronts.
It seems to weird that HxH can feel like story-wise, that it's just trouncing other manga lately. It somehow bypasses the flaws and annoyances a lot of the other Shonen Jump manga are plagued with. This arc alone I haven't felt like there was a particularly unneeded chapter, a boring encounter, or that the chapter was stagnant. The art is still fairly messy, but it still is my most anticipated release each week.
I also just realized that this manga doesn't have characters that I find irritating or fully unlikeable that I'm not meant to find that way. It's great!
@Zik:
Would be interesting if the zodiac decided support him fully after he won. It'd be interesting since he doesn't even has two stars as a Hunter.
…he doesn't even have one star
I wonder. Since Leorio doesn't know how Gon is going to be healed, and that problem is almost solved (I still want him to remain Gon-san. Though I understand that his body will be the first thing to revert. Other stuff depends on how Nanika understands Killua's wish.) what will he do when Gon awakens? Most likely, if Gon was to enter the voting hall after awakening, Leorio would immediately step down as a candidate. He is not that interested in it. But the hall is closed to entry, I think. So Leorio will see Gon after voting ends, since I doubt even a message will be relayed to him. Or maybe not, maybe Killua will text him and this Chairman stuff becomes even more interesting, with Leorio's main need in being the chairman cleared. And he will have to understand the possibilities being a chairman grants.
Thanks for the translation at the previous page, but I still don't understand why Tsubone said that.
Seriously a weak rookie who not even done a mission is going to become chairman?
Seriously a weak rookie who not even done a mission is going to become chairman?
Of course. Togashi is determined to have Leorio become the chairman before Naruto becomes a hokage
Seriously a weak rookie who not even done a mission is going to become chairman?
He is a hunter nonetheless. With his lack of experience, he makes it up with will power, guts, sincerity, and hard work. Hence Cheadle said, Leorio can be a good chairman if majority of the members of the organization will support him.
Power is not the only characteristics of a good leader. You need charisma to gain the trust and support of those you lead.
Seriously a weak rookie who not even done a mission is going to become chairman?
I don't think Pariston is probably any stronger.
It just seems as though everyone like Pariston more, I STILL can't see him losing, but rather Leorio is the red herring. Ging's "this is bad" is a big indicator of that. Pariston loves a challenge, so I can see him pulling through in an amazing way.
That annoying smile will emerge bigger than the sun.
I wonder who Illumi was texting though.
I wonder who Illumi was texting though.
I think he was using phone to link with Tsubone's scope. He is observing everything.
Also, confirmation that Leori finaly scored ? :ninja:
@No:
Also, confirmation that Leori finaly scored ? :ninja:
He was being so honest in that speech I'd say yes, multiple times, lol. Why say "finally" though? We don't know much about his past life.
Speaking of his past life I wonder who close to him was affected so that he had the ambition to become a great doctor with lots of money to help out those in need. I know in the anime they had some guy named Pietro but was there anything in the manga that specified who the close person was?
@RobbyBevard:
I hate to bandwagon. But man. Togashi's story is so much more interesting that Oda's right now. Just proves what I've long said I suppose. That if he didn't take all the breaks, his story would easily be competing with OP.
Among the older crowd anyway. Its not universal enough to ever reach OP's levels of popularity. But storywise its the one title that can go toe to toe. He's built some crazy suspense on multiple fronts.
I agree, but I also think it's important that:
a) Togashi probably has taken more time to develop his story
b) Hunter x Hunter doesn't have the same amount of chapters, therefore has more to work with (without it seeming repetitive)
c) Demographic for OP is probably slightly younger, more gender-balanced. A bigger fan base means more restrictions and more people to please
d) Oda clearly has to write 500+ more chapters to finish his story, I doubt Togashi has more than 150. Therefore he has to save stuff for later.
But I've always said I think story to story, development to development, HxH is better than OP. OP will always be more popular than HxH because of its continuity and its balance between light-hearted comedy and dramatic action. HxH is better because it can explore the depths of the characters, and the darkness of the world, whereas OP can't go as deep (at least as quickly and freely).
@Lazy:
d) Oda clearly has to write 500+ more chapters to finish his story, I doubt Togashi has more than 150. Therefore he has to save stuff for later.
Again, I still don't see why people are thinking HxH's ending soon. There's still plenty of plot threads to resolve and develop on before it ends.
@Lazy:
I agree, but I also think it's important that:
a) Togashi probably has taken more time to develop his story
b) Hunter x Hunter doesn't have the same amount of chapters, therefore has more to work with (without it seeming repetitive)
c) Demographic for OP is probably slightly younger, more gender-balanced. A bigger fan base means more restrictions and more people to please
d) Oda clearly has to write 500+ more chapters to finish his story, I doubt Togashi has more than 150. Therefore he has to save stuff for later.But I've always said I think story to story, development to development, HxH is better than OP. OP will always be more popular than HxH because of its continuity and its balance between light-hearted comedy and dramatic action. HxH is better because it can explore the depths of the characters, and the darkness of the world, whereas OP can't go as deep (at least as quickly and freely).
One Piece's biggest flaw is lack of "fear for the characters", so readers aren't nearly on edge as they should be, since every OP fan knows that Oda pretty much has a fetish for reusing past characters. As long as it's not a moment crucial to character development, the reader can almost be certain the side characters will pull through the terrifying things done to them.
In other words, people aren't hyped for the next chapter due to suspense, but rather, just to see where the story takes them and how the characters can handle it.
This is by no means a bad thing, it's just not nearly as exciting as:
"Holy crap, everyone can die at any time in this series so I need to know if that character can make it through in the next chapter! Also.. how the heck are they going to get out of this?"
That Killua "head gets shot off" moment was a VERY good example of what I was talking about. People were actually afraid Killua actually could've died there, because they know Togashi could do it.
It really helps the urge to continue reading HxH.
Both series are unpredictable, but HxH is pretty much the king of suspense.
@RobbyBevard:
I hate to bandwagon. But man. Togashi's story is so much more interesting that Oda's right now.
i've been saying this for months. OP defense force is very defensive
Again, I still don't see why people are thinking HxH's ending soon. There's still plenty of plot threads to resolve and develop on before it ends.
Seriously, resolving the spiders/kurapica and Jairo's brewing story alone could be 50-100+ chapter arcs. Then we've got Gon and his business with Hisoka and Ging that needs to be resolved as well, killua's future, etc
HunterxHunter is bordeline seinen sometimes almost leaving shonen genre for me(its like its in the middle going towards seinen).Anyways while the story is interesting i dont feel connected with any character except maybe with Leorio or Killua(sometimes i wish that he was the protagonist).
The chance of death of the characters isnt really something that i need to get hooked to the story,the story feels okay and after all those breaks is expected that story feels more well built so doesnt seem that much of accomplishment.
Yeah, I've been saying it from the start, it's just that it's become really apparent lately due to One Piece's drop in quality post-timeskip.
Hunter x Hunter > One Piece.
Togashi's the only mangaka who's never disappointed me, and he shows no sign of doing so any time soon.
Eh, I'll stick with OP. I never could quite get into HxH, though I keep up with new releases. For me, the disjunct of having a fairly typical shonen protagonist in a much darker world never clicked. And I honestly don't think it is that brilliantly paced or scripted.
Take the recent resurgence of Leorio, for example. Leorio was easily my second favorite character–next to Hisoka, the most unique and best part of HxH, in my rather misguided opinion, I'm sure--and I agree that his return was epic. But at the same time, the whole "hey, Leorio shows up and uses new nen powers to punch Ging in the face and then becomes the next chairman!" storyline really just seems like an apology for the fact that he bloody well disappeared for dozens of chapters. And honestly, if I'd said that was going to be a major storyline prior to it actually appearing, I'd be accused of writing fan-fiction.
Overall, I guess the way I would defend my general preference is that OP is, to me, more successful in accomplishing its comparatively simple goals than HxH is in accomplishing much more difficult ones (complexity, mature themes, etc.). Still, it's nice that one of the more purely entertaining arcs of this manga has coincided with what I will admit is a relative low point in OP.
And I honestly don't think it is that brilliantly paced or scripted.
Which is my gripe of OP. Its awesome, and Im fine with recognizing it as king of Jump. But it isn't half as good as die hard fans make it out to be
When people belittle you for saying Naruto at it's best is OP quality if not better (Naruto did kick ass and you all know it) you know they have fan boy goggles on
Togashi's the only mangaka who's never disappointed me, and he shows no sign of doing so any time soon.
Greed island didnt disappointed you?(there few things that disappointed me ,but this arc sticks out)
Well i just hope that Leorio,Hisoka and Killua stay present in story in some shape or form they are the main reason that i read Hunter x Hunter ,rest doesnt really hold me anymore.
Which is my gripe of OP. Its awesome, and Im fine with recognizing it as king of Jump. But it isn't half as good as die hard fans make it out to be
Dont all die hard fans act this way?The thing they like its a god gift to mankind,just ignored them.
Greed island didnt disappointed you?(there few things that disappointed me ,but this arc sticks out)
No, not at all. I love Togashi's worldbuilding, and their entire adventure had me going "I WANT TO GO TO THERE."
And the final battle against the Bomber where Gon lost his fucking arm? Yeeeeeah.
Togashi's the only mangaka who's never disappointed me, and he shows no sign of doing so any time soon.
He still has a lot of apologizing to do for 7 years of hiatuses. He's going to have to stay at peak quality for a while before he puts that behind him. In the back of my mind is going to be that constant nagging thought of "and next week it goes on break for a year, right?"
And there's still no excuse for the dozens of chapters that were 5 minute scribbles for a long chunk of time. ( I assume they were just publishing his names rather than finished chapters.)
If neither the breaks or the terrible art dissapointed you, hey, great. But Togashi has failed me plenty of times. He gets props for telling a good story, but he doesn't get the respect of a dedicated storyteller.
Which is my gripe of OP. Its awesome, and Im fine with recognizing it as king of Jump. But it isn't half as good as die hard fans make it out to be
When people belittle you for saying Naruto at it's best is OP quality if not better (Naruto did kick ass and you all know it) you know they have fan boy goggles on
….You really sound like you have some personal issues with this. Most people'll say Naruto before the timeskip was good, and there were moments that could match One Piece quality.
No, not at all. I love Togashi's worldbuilding, and their entire adventure had me going "I WANT TO GO TO THERE."
And the final battle against the Bomber where Gon lost his fucking arm? Yeeeeeah.
Okay good for you,for supposedly game world it felt really lacking for me.
In that particular arc i liked only two things Hisoka playing voley and Biscuit(dont remember if she has another name) transformation.
Which is my gripe of OP. Its awesome, and Im fine with recognizing it as king of Jump. But it isn't half as good as die hard fans make it out to be
Then why are you on a OP message board? And it is as good as the better fans make it out to be.
Not the crazy people. The crazy people will ruin any series.
When people belittle you for saying Naruto at it's best is OP quality if not better (Naruto did kick ass and you all know it) you know they have fan boy goggles on
No one denies it was good for its first dozen volumes. But its been pretty godawful for 7 or 8 years and 40 volumes now.
@RobbyBevard:
He still has a lot of apologizing to do for 7 years of hiatuses. He's going to have to stay at peak quality for a while before he puts that behind him. In the back of my mind is going to be that constant nagging thought of "and next week it goes on break for a year, right?"
And there's still no excuse for the dozens of chapters that were 5 minute scribbles for a long chunk of time. ( I assume they were just publishing his names rather than finished chapters.)
If neither the breaks or the terrible art dissapointed you, hey, great. But Togashi has failed me plenty of times. He gets props for telling a good story, but he doesn't get the respect of a dedicated storyteller.
The name chapters didn't bug me, since I know that he fixes them for the tankoubon releases. If he didn't, then yeah I wouldn't be happy.
As for the hiatuses, I honestly don't mind as long as he comes back. Basically all I really care about is the writing, and that's always been up there. His nuances and tendencies to overexplain stuff are things that I personally love to death, so they don't bug me at all.
Now I'll grant you Yuu Yuu Hakusho's ending, and I probably would have called bullshit had I been following that as it was released back in the day, but I knew about the circumstances about that long before I actualy reached that point of the series so it didn't bug me as much as I'm sure it did others back when it was new.
@RobbyBevard:
Then why are you on a OP message board? And it is as good as the better fans make it out to be.
Not the crazy people. The crazy people will ruin any series.
Pretty sure the crazy people were what he meant by "die-hard fans." You know, the ones who insist that every chapter is the BEST THING EVER and every single design choice that Oda has ever done is great (how dare you not like Franky's new look, it's the best thing since last week's chapter!) and how Oda's worst chapter is better than Berserk/Hunter x Hunter/Monster/[insert other awesome series here] on their best day for he is the infallible God of Jump.
Those people are plentiful outside this forum, and tend to push people away from the series. :/
I'll admit I'm partly guilty of acting over-defensive whenever OP is "attacked". And I hate it when it happens, cause I like to think I'm not a die hard fan. I hate it when people just blindly defend what they like without stopping to analyze it more calmly or rationaly.
That being said, and as I mentioned some times before, there's this mildly annoying trend lately of enalting (is that word correct?) HxH vs OP, like "wow, HxH is shitting so much on OP. . .". It's just normal that, at the 100th "Oda has been sucking for months, Togashi NEVER EVER sucks" on a damn OP forum, well, some people would act rather hot-headed. At least, I find it normal.
That being said, yes. HxH is doing better than OP. . .now. BUT, there's so many reasons why, and a lot of them have already been covered. OP is 653 chapters long; HxH, 330 something. Oda barely takes breaks; Togashi is the God of Breaks. Oda's art, even at his lowest, is packed full of stuff, rich, colourful and consistent. Togashi's art (knowing he doesn't use assistants because HE doesn't want to. . .) ranges from average to intolerable. Also, this HxH arc is incredibly eventful, relevant and tense. Meanwhile, FI wasn't. The SH's faced no menace there, and it felt as if Oda wanted to be done with it to go already to the NW. The post-FI arc (3-4 chapters) easily rivaled current HxH in terms of excitement and overall awesomeness. (I still think the FI arc is FAR from being the massive piece of shit people make it up to be, but I'll agree it's possibly top 3 worst OP arc material, that being "it's fun to read, there's good stuff there, but there're so many missed opportunities it feels kinda bitter").
SO, long story short; I won't even argue HxH is awesome (it's quite possibly among the 3 best shounen ever, with OP and FMA), but using it as a "tool" to attack OP is both unfair (reasons listed above) and kinda unnecessary. Of course, I'll be doing the same thing with OP vs. Naruto a lot of times, so you can call me a hypocrite. . .(I'm trying to stop comparing OP to Naruto/Bleach/Fairy Tail, it's just so tempting to do. . .)
@RobbyBevard:
Not the crazy people. The crazy people will ruin any series.
They are who im addressing, good HXH conversation can be hard to come by, thats why i post on this thread, and not so much this board
Pretty sure the crazy people were what he meant by "die-hard fans." You know, the ones who insist that every chapter is the BEST THING EVER and every single design choice that Oda has ever done is great (how dare you not like Franky's new look, it's the best thing since last week's chapter!) and how Oda's worst chapter is better than Berserk/Hunter x Hunter/Monster/[insert other awesome series here] on their best day for he is the infallible God of Jump.
Those people are plentiful outside this forum, and tend to push people away from the series. :/
Well, thats in every fandom. You have to just ignore those people or they'll ruin everything. You can get those folks for HxH, or Twilight, if you want.
Series quality shouldn't be judged by its fandom.