Next Mugiwara Animal set figures: Franky (rhinoceros) and Brook (giraffe).
Nightmares, I will have.
Next Mugiwara Animal set figures: Franky (rhinoceros) and Brook (giraffe).
Nightmares, I will have.
Hope Shirahoshi's powers are more than controlling Sea Kings as they have always been portrayed as fodder. A whole lot of them could do some damage but still was expecting more than that. Also of Luffy has the same ability as was implied, does that mean he's also an ancient weapon…?
I don't think they've always been portrayed as fodder. Most of the time they never attack people full on. We've seen the straw hats handle them, and sea kings never really attempted to kill them, not from what i remember. but what if it was a group onslaught? Rayleigh could probably handle them with relative ease, but not many other people.
I don't think they've always been portrayed as fodder. Most of the time they never attack people full on. We've seen the straw hats handle them, and sea kings never really attempted to kill them, not from what i remember. but what if it was a group onslaught? Rayleigh could probably handle them with relative ease, but not many other people.
More important, there are various forms and sizes when it comes to sea kings. All the sea kings defeated so far were extremely small compared to the ones we saw lurking around Impeldown and "Shirahoshi's".
So yeah, the ability to summon beasts the size of whole islands is sure terrifying, especially when we don't even have a clue how many Sea Kings she can control. Imagine Shirahoshi would plan an attack to overthrow the government…she would most likely succeed since she could attack most islands all at once.
And Aokiji, in theory the best counter, can't split himself.
I just LOVE how Zoro gives the same reason about not wanting to be a hero as Luffy did :D
Like captain;like first-mate
Honestly I wouldn't be too sure about that. Frankly Blackbeard doesn't seem like a final boss type to me. He is already old enough and has spend enough time in the New World to actually be somebody but instead even with his Devil Fruit he didn't seem that impressive. Yes I know that his type of logia made him more vuelrnable to attacks but still. I am pretty sure that all the admirals, Garp, Sengoku probably Jozu , Hawkeye and Boa Hancock would have crushed him without taking too much damage. When you add in how he cowered before Whitebeard (which I guess I can't blame him for since Whibeard was a beast but still Akainu didn't behave like a bitch) as well …no he doesn't seem worthy. I think it's more likely that the WG has an Ancient Weapon and Blackbeard will provoke them into using it
Nah, Blackbeard is clearly being built up as Luffy's ultimate rival. First in Jaya when their tastes were completely opposite from one another, then is Blackbeard in part responsible for Ace's death and finally Blackbeard is the only one Oda has ever focussed on building his own crew and unlike all the other famous pirates he's the only one who's actively going for the top. Unlike guys like Shanks, Akainu, Kizaru or Kuzan Blackbeard will grow stronger as time goes on. Moreover Blackbeard is another one with a D. and Oda made him particularly special by giving him two extremely powerful devilfruits.
Actually, it's not clear whether he can talk to them at all.
Well, they seemed to be able to understand him so he should be able to talk to them.
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What straw hat time is that???
@Gia:
What straw hat time is that???
The "Arrival of New Animal Figures and a Super Exhilarating Game Time", AKA "OO Time" or "Great Time".
Funny, all this time I thought Tsubaki was fired, so he never showed up again. Maybe he just went on vacation.
But its not just acting
he's unbelievably cowardlyi would prefer if he had a bit of kidds evil feel about him
Cowardly to people he knows he cant beat. He was extremely confident when against Ace. Cowards also just dont barge in a place like Impel Down without knowing they can do it. He took a big risk against Whitebeard. I would be a coward against Whitebeard.
@rubia, Thanks Alot :D
@Gia:
Cowardly to people he knows he cant beat. He was extremely confident when against Ace. Cowards also just dont barge in a place like Impel Down without knowing they can do it. He took a big risk against Whitebeard. I would be a coward against Whitebeard.
@rubia, Thanks Alot :D
I guess he meant cheap, BB is a cheap bastard, he uses every dirty trick possible to get the upper hand, he doesn't mind if he wins with dirty stuff aslong as he wins.
I guess he meant cheap, BB is a cheap bastard, he uses every dirty trick possible to get the upper hand, he doesn't mind if he wins with dirty stuff aslong as he wins.
Like a real pirate,aaaarg!
I think Joy Boy might be an ancestor of Luffy's. I know, not enough info yet. But:
So I think Joy Boy might be a D for that.
But also, the name "Joy Boy" sounds very "luffy-y" to me. Is it just me ?
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If Luffy can HEAR the seakings and the sea kings can clearly hear what he says then he should be able to talk to them.
But talking to them is not the same as commanding them, like shirahoshi. So don't worry, Luffy won't be taking over her job.
Think of Harry Potter. He could hear and talk to snakes, but he could not control them at all like Voldermort could.
I doubt Jinbe's duty problem will be solved before the end of this arc. If it were, then he would have refused the invitation, which would prompt Luffy to try to help him out with whatever is holding him back. However, in this case, Jinbe actually accepted the invitation, so Luffy has no reason to keep badgering him to join. Luffy waited 2 years to see his crewmates again, he can certainly wait for Jinbe to finish his task and join. Plus, if it involves the Sun Pirates, then it's a problem that is beyond Luffy's understanding anyway. Give him one or two arcs.
It would make sense for Jinbe to join later. He's too powerful right now and the New World wouldn't feel as menacing if they had a former Shichibukai with them (as Chopper points out). By the time he joins, the Monster Trio will most definitely have surpassed him in terms of power and possibly bounty and the crew will be more used to the chaos of the New World.
I think Joy Boy might be an ancestor of Luffy's. I know, not enough info yet. But:
- We know the "Will of the D" is linked to the Void Century
- We know that Shiraoshi's power is linked in some way to the "Will of the D" (Luffy and Roger, both "D"s, can hear the Sea Kings)
- We know that Joy Boy knew about the Mermaid Princess' power.
So I think Joy Boy might be a D for that.
But also, the name "Joy Boy" sounds very "luffy-y" to me. Is it just me ?
My theory is that Joy Boy was a D and he had a kid with a mermaid. That kid then developed the ability to hear the voices of all things because of his/her half mermaid lineage. This ability is a recessive trait and Luffy/Roger picked it up
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I doubt Jinbe's duty problem will be solved before the end of this arc. If it were, then he would have refused the invitation, which would prompt Luffy to try to help him out with whatever is holding him back. However, in this case, Jinbe actually accepted the invitation, so Luffy has no reason to keep badgering him to join. Luffy waited 2 years to see his crewmates again, he can certainly wait for Jinbe to finish his task and join. Plus, if it involves the Sun Pirates, then it's a problem that is beyond Luffy's understanding anyway. Give him one or two arcs.
It would make sense for Jinbe to join later. He's too powerful right now and the New World wouldn't feel as menacing if they had a former Shichibukai with them (as Chopper points out). By the time he joins, the Monster Trio will most definitely have surpassed him in terms of power and possibly bounty and the crew will be more used to the chaos of the New World.
This is exactly how I feel. Jinbe will join at a later time when he fits in more.
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This is exactly how I feel. Jinbe will join at a later time when he fits in more.
Maybe, but it would feel weird if after 2 arcs or something he just swims up to the Sunny and is like "Hey guys, I finished my Cover-story, Can I join now?". If Oda does make him join later, it'll be because something will happen that involves him that brings him together with the Straw Hats again.
I don't have any idea what though. Maybe Jinbe gets captured and the SH have to rescue him or something? It'd be a possible part 2 to the FI arc, though it'd seem a little lame for Jinbe to go off on his own just to immediately need Luffy's help again. Who knows.
Maybe, but it would feel weird if after 2 arcs or something he just swims up to the Sunny and is like "Hey guys, I finished my Cover-story, Can I join now?". If Oda does make him join later, it'll be because something will happen that involves him that brings him together with the Straw Hats again.
I don't have any idea what though. Maybe Jinbe gets captured and the SH have to rescue him or something? It'd be a possible part 2 to the FI arc, though it'd seem a little lame for Jinbe to go off on his own just to immediately need Luffy's help again. Who knows.
Nah more likely something happens at Revire, Strawhats go help because Vivi & Royal merfamily is tehre and meets up with Jinbe there. After reverie , Jinbe's duty is done ( he wanted Otohime's dream of attending the Reverie to come true) so then he joins
Nah more likely something happens at Revire, Strawhats go help because Vivi & Royal merfamily is tehre and meets up with Jinbe there. After reverie , Jinbe's duty is done ( he wanted Otohime's dream of attending the Reverie to come true) so then he joins
I really, really like this theory. I'm going to have to agree with you.
Maybe, but it would feel weird if after 2 arcs or something he just swims up to the Sunny and is like "Hey guys, I finished my Cover-story, Can I join now?". If Oda does make him join later, it'll be because something will happen that involves him that brings him together with the Straw Hats again.
I don't have any idea what though. Maybe Jinbe gets captured and the SH have to rescue him or something? It'd be a possible part 2 to the FI arc, though it'd seem a little lame for Jinbe to go off on his own just to immediately need Luffy's help again. Who knows.
Horrible, horrible idea… but I can't get the image of Jinbe as a damsel in distress out of my head now. Thanks.
I really, really like this theory. I'm going to have to agree with you.
Actually, come to think of it, so do I. At first I didn't understand why Jinbe joining the Straw Hats would have any effect on Fishmen attending the Reverie (since Jinbe's a criminal and its not like he could escort the royal family there), but I remembered back to the Flashback where the Fishmen got kicked out of the Reverie because of Fisher Tiger's attack on Marejoia. Jinbe joining the "notorious" Straw Hat pirates (which would easily reach the WG before the Reverie) would probably be enough of an excuse to keep them out again, particularly given Jinbe's "Betrayal" during the WB war.
This explains why Jinbe's basically agreeing to join later–he knows that if he joins now the WG could use it against Fishman Island. As much as he wants to join, he knows that waiting until after the Reverie would be best for the Fishmen race and is therefore putting his personal goals behind his racial/political ones.
Actually, come to think of it, so do I. At first I didn't understand why Jinbe joining the Straw Hats would have any effect on Fishmen attending the Reverie (since Jinbe's a criminal and its not like he could escort the royal family there), but I remembered back to the Flashback where the Fishmen got kicked out of the Reverie because of Fisher Tiger's attack on Marejoia. Jinbe joining the "notorious" Straw Hat pirates (which would easily reach the WG before the Reverie) would probably be enough of an excuse to keep them out again, particularly given Jinbe's "Betrayal" during the WB war.
This explains why Jinbe's basically agreeing to join later–he knows that if he joins now the WG could use it against Fishman Island. As much as he wants to join, he knows that waiting until after the Reverie would be best for the Fishmen race and is therefore putting his personal goals behind his racial/political ones.
Jinbe is already a notorious pirate… Him joining another crew won't make a difference to the WG and FI issues.
Actually, come to think of it, so do I. At first I didn't understand why Jinbe joining the Straw Hats would have any effect on Fishmen attending the Reverie (since Jinbe's a criminal and its not like he could escort the royal family there), but I remembered back to the Flashback where the Fishmen got kicked out of the Reverie because of Fisher Tiger's attack on Marejoia. Jinbe joining the "notorious" Straw Hat pirates (which would easily reach the WG before the Reverie) would probably be enough of an excuse to keep them out again, particularly given Jinbe's "Betrayal" during the WB war.
This explains why Jinbe's basically agreeing to join later–he knows that if he joins now the WG could use it against Fishman Island. As much as he wants to join, he knows that waiting until after the Reverie would be best for the Fishmen race and is therefore putting his personal goals behind his racial/political ones.
That is some super poor reasoning considering everything he has done against the WG already.
And Aokiji, in theory the best counter, can't split himself.
I think he is actually one of the worst counters. Sure with Sea Kings especially the big one you can trash pretty much all coastal towns but more importantly you can pretty much put a stop to all sea traffick in the world and in the One Piece World almost the entire economy seems to be vitally connected to sea travel. And even if they are countries like Alabasta for example who might be big enough to exist on their own the power of the WG comes from the fact that it's so many countries working together who can project their power all over the world. With Aokiji sure you can take out the Sea Kings but everything will end up frozen making sea travel almost as impossible
Nah, Blackbeard is clearly being built up as Luffy's ultimate rival. First in Jaya when their tastes were completely opposite from one another, then is Blackbeard in part responsible for Ace's death and finally Blackbeard is the only one Oda has ever focussed on building his own crew and unlike all the other famous pirates he's the only one who's actively going for the top. Unlike guys like Shanks, Akainu, Kizaru or Kuzan Blackbeard will grow stronger as time goes on. Moreover Blackbeard is another one with a D. and Oda made him particularly special by giving him two extremely powerful devilfruits.
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Don't forget that I am guessing Earthquake powers would be probably useless against a rubber man ;) Yeah I see your point and I thought this as well until I saw him cowering in fron of Whitebeard. I don't think Luffy's final oponent would be a coward who gets his power through tricks instead of on hiw own merits. I am more inclined to believe that an out of control Akainu will be the real final boss. In fact I think Blackbeard and Luffy might actually team up to take down Akainu. The two sides of the same coin , two opposites fighting together. This seems like it will be interesting
@Gia:
Cowardly to people he knows he cant beat. He was extremely confident when against Ace. Cowards also just dont barge in a place like Impel Down without knowing they can do it. He took a big risk against Whitebeard. I would be a coward against Whitebeard.
Well I think we would all be scared against Whitebeard ;) But that's kind of the thing. Luffy isn't. He faced 3 admirals on his own and didn't cower. Neither are the admirals. Hell Akainu pissed off Whitebeard even more and didn't cower when he got that massive beatdown. I just don't see someone who is not ready to fight to his last breath ending up the big bad. And frankly while Blackbeard is a dick who is kinda ruthless I don't see him as really that evil. I think the storyline with Falmingo and his bosses(who are probably connected with Akainu) will be the real big bad
That is some super poor reasoning considering everything he has done against the WG already.
Not if you consider that Jinbe's been off the radar for 2 years now, and joining the SH would probably make the news, thus reviving the issue. Also, if the SH Surface with Jinbe in their crew, its easy to think that FI's been hiding him for those two years, which would further complicate things for the Fishmen.
I just think that Jinbe wants to lay as low as possible right now, given that his position is probably the biggest obstacle to FI attending right now (that he knows of anyway).
Even if Jinbe is seen on the ship as a crew member, he's already allied with Luffy and aided in destroying Impel Down and raided Marineford twice both times with Luffy. It's obvious they are working together, I don't see how joining his crew could make the situation any worse for Jinbe or Fishman Island.
i think shirahoshi and jinbe might join together. perhaps some news or revelation will come to the world government and shirahoshi is found to be a WMD. maybe caribou is captured and spills the details, cause i'm sure he is seeing what is going down. shirahoshi is now wanted by the government either dead or alive (they might want to harness her power). so now shirahoshi can't stay in one place for too long. jinbe might want to protect her, so both join the SH's together.
The one thing I hate right now is Shirahoshi. I just can't see what Oda is going to do with her. Not what he is going to do with her in the future, but what he is going to do with her NOW.
I mean she clearly can't take care of herself. She is very gullable and trustworthy, I would say.
Basically to me it just seems weird to have her just leave the story right now and follow the rest of the fishfolk. They are not enough to protect her, I mean hell they couldn't even protect her from Hodi's officers on a little drugs. How could they possibly be expected to protect them from the WG, Warlords, and other powerful pirates such as Blackbeard, Kidd, ect.
There really is only 3 things I can see as being possible for her
1. Join the crew (i do not see this happening)
2. Hide out at Amazon Lily (Luffy asks Hancock for a favor and she hides out there)
3. Lives and Hides at the bottom of the sea somewhere in the world (very unlikely as well due to no sunlight anywhere but fishman island)
I just can't imagine any other scenerio that seems realistic in keeping her safe
The one thing I hate right now is Shirahoshi. I just can't see what Oda is going to do with her. Not what he is going to do with her in the future, but what he is going to do with her NOW.
I mean she clearly can't take care of herself. She is very gullable and trustworthy, I would say.
Basically to me it just seems weird to have her just leave the story right now and follow the rest of the fishfolk. They are not enough to protect her, I mean hell they couldn't even protect her from Hodi's officers on a little drugs. How could they possibly be expected to protect them from the WG, Warlords, and other powerful pirates such as Blackbeard, Kidd, ect.
There really is only 3 things I can see as being possible for her
1. Join the crew (i do not see this happening)
2. Hide out at Amazon Lily (Luffy asks Hancock for a favor and she hides out there)
3. Lives and Hides at the bottom of the sea somewhere in the world (very unlikely as well due to no sunlight anywhere but fishman island)I just can't imagine any other scenerio that seems realistic in keeping her safe
dude nobody knows that she can control sea kings why would anybody hunt her?
dude nobody knows that she can control sea kings why would anybody hunt her?
You mean those 50,000+ human pirates that just left fishman island are not going to ever have a slip of the tongue and mention it to anyone. Or tell people on purpose, whether for evil intentions or telling the amazing story that happened. Or try and capture her on their own when they get stronger guys to back them, ect.
Hell can't even trust the fishfolk to not accidently slip that she did this.
You mean those 50,000+ human pirates that just left fishman island are not going to ever have a slip of the tongue and mention it to anyone. Or tell people on purpose, whether for evil intentions or telling the amazing story that happened. Or try and capture her on their own when they get stronger guys to back them, ect.
Hell can't even trust the fishfolk to not accidently slip that she did this.
Exactly, even if they weren't aware of exactly what transpired, there's no way they'd leave out that the sea kings saved them in the end. This would certainly reach the ears of the WG who's eyes and ears are so far reaching, and I'm certain they will take action against the Ancient Weapon Poseidon. I find that in most scenario's, especially those concerning world history, it is always best to assume the WG knows, certainly about the Ancient Weapons.
Hey do you think that the SHs will encounter any of the pirates they saved on Fishman Island in the new world. It would be cool if Luffy had his own small army, although he doesn't need one.
The one thing I hate right now is Shirahoshi. I just can't see what Oda is going to do with her. Not what he is going to do with her in the future, but what he is going to do with her NOW.
I mean she clearly can't take care of herself. She is very gullable and trustworthy, I would say.
Basically to me it just seems weird to have her just leave the story right now and follow the rest of the fishfolk. They are not enough to protect her, I mean hell they couldn't even protect her from Hodi's officers on a little drugs. How could they possibly be expected to protect them from the WG, Warlords, and other powerful pirates such as Blackbeard, Kidd, ect.
There really is only 3 things I can see as being possible for her
1. Join the crew (i do not see this happening)
2. Hide out at Amazon Lily (Luffy asks Hancock for a favor and she hides out there)
3. Lives and Hides at the bottom of the sea somewhere in the world (very unlikely as well due to no sunlight anywhere but fishman island)I just can't imagine any other scenerio that seems realistic in keeping her safe
I don't see how she could possibly be in any danger when she is an Ancient weapon. Really overestimating the WG, or any forces, ability to protect themselves 10,000 meters underwater from hundreds perhaps thousands of extremely large sea kings. Even if every DF-less Vice Admiral jumped out of there coated ships to in bubbles to fight backed up by Dr.Vegapunk's Seaking destroying submarines with large missiles and PX lasers they are taking heavy losses. Even if they somehow got her there is still the issue of getting her back to the surface. The WG does not have the manpower for such a campaign with everything else going on in the NW. The only person FI could be realistically threatened by is Big Mam if she wants Shirahoshi.
Well the only person who knows of Shirahoshi's true existence is probably Robin and the King. Although we all know that the mud guy(forgot the name) is running loose. My idea is that he over heard Robin's private conversation and plans on kidnapping her so he can escape the island without harm.
I don't see how she could possibly be in any danger when she is an Ancient weapon. Really overestimating the WG, or any forces, ability to protect themselves 10,000 meters underwater from hundreds perhaps thousands of extremely large sea kings. Even if every DF-less Vice Admiral jumped out of there coated ships to in bubbles to fight backed up by Dr.Vegapunk's Seaking destroying submarines with large missiles and PX lasers they are taking heavy losses. Even if they somehow got her there is still the issue of getting her back to the surface. The WG does not have the manpower for such a campaign with everything else going on in the NW. The only person FI could be realistically threatened by is Big Mam if she wants Shirahoshi.
You make it sound like the fishman should do what the new fishman pirates where doing. Destroy every ship that heads towards them.
Otherwise, what is the fishman people supposed to do if a marine ship shows up? Instantly attack them? Hell no, that would be declaring war. They have to let them in peacefully. and then what, you have people you saw at the Marineford war at fishman island. Should be easy enough to capture the princess if they want. Then they gag her and and who knows if she can still communicate then. Or knock her unconcious so her "feelings" don't get out either.
Oh and we are also forgetting one thing. The fishfolks GOAL. They want to get along with Humans and comingle and stop the hatred, war, racism, ect. Not the easiest thing to do when you are distrusting of EVERYONE. Which if they are not distrusting of everyone and fight off people, it could be easy to get close to the princess as I said. I mean lets take another World Noble heads to fishman island. What do they do? Have the princess run off and hide? Seems to me if she stays with the fishfolk she will have to HIDE all the time or else risk being in danger, AND also risk the fishfold and human relations by causing a fight/war if she is found out.
She is an ANCIENT WEAPON. Hell look how WG thinks of Robin and those Ohara people. They were all wiped out just for being able to read those blocks. Do you really think the WG will let Shirahoshi and actual weapon be free? So the WG will come after her like no other, just like Ohara and Robin. Now how are the fishfolk going to be able to start their dream of living with humans if the WG will essentially be going to war with them for shirahoshi? If they do as you say and she controls the sea kings and destroys all ships and attacks at her (which she probably could) that kind of goes against the whole plan now doesn't it. How will the WG see these fishfolk that have an ancient weapon and keep destroying their ship/people? They won't care that they initiated it, only that they are being beat and not getting what they want.
This reminds me of all the people who insisted that Hancock's actions surrounding the war would be discovered and that she'd lose her warlord title.
The WG never found out about the fact that Shirahoshi was an ancient weapon that was controlling sea kings when she did so in front of a freaking noble 12 years ago or so. I don't see why it's unreasonable for the same thing to happen now, especially when her actions were far less public this time around.
This reminds me of all the people who insisted that Hancock's actions surrounding the war would be discovered and that she'd lose her warlord title.
The WG never found out about the fact that Shirahoshi was an ancient weapon that was controlling sea kings when she did so in front of a freaking noble 12 years ago or so. I don't see why it's unreasonable for the same thing to happen now, especially when her actions were far less public this time around.
To be fair, the instance with the noble isn't clear proof to the noble or the WG. Everyone there was startled and confused at the time.
Actually, couldn't this logic apply to Jinbe's situation? It's been 2 years since the war; he may as well be off the radar now. And who's to say that Jinbe staying at Ryuuguu would affect its chances at the Reverie, if the WG doesn't even know that Jinbe is there? They could have searched for him previously, but didn't find him (he was probably with Luffy, Hancock, etc. then, about to head for FI). Another search like that would only grate on diplomatic relations, needless to say be a waste of resources just to search for one problem when they're occupied by plenty others. Jinbe definitely is a major issue, but so is Blackbeard, reestablishing the balance between the Yonkou and Shichibukai, the many new pirates that are popping up here and there, the Revolutionary Army… to name a few. Overall, Jinbe staying at FI shouldn't raise much controversy.
...Ah, I got back into this debate again. Well, I'm prepared to eat any words if I need to. Bring it!
I thought the chapter was pretty great, i have to say i was beyond thrown off by Shirahoshi being Poseidon
for some reason i just did not see it being a person, let alone one who can control sea kings.
how much will this power actually accomplish
we will jsut have to wait and see.
to be frank, i doubt that noble would even know what an ancient weapon is, I'm sure his father had to explain to him everything about the reason why his fishamn slaves have returned to fishman island. He didn't even know who jinbe was.
Also, nobody knows that the power to call the seakings is an ancient weapon, that connection was made by robin in this chapter because she read skypiea's phoneglyph, the only ones who i can see making this connection are the gorousei and yet i doubt this reach their ears, the only humans who know somethinga bout this are a bunch of fodder human pirates who probably won't be able to survive in new world. Also they only know that a bunch of seakings moved a ship, they don't even know that shirahoshi called them, it could be possible that they don't even know who shirahoshi is. I doubt these rumors reach the gorousei's ears. The Reverie is the only moment where i can see the wg discovering that shirahoshi is poseidon.
I don't get why people seem to think that the 30k human pirates who went back to the New World are aware of Shirohoshi's powers. They never saw her call the Sea King; all they know was that Noah was falling and that the Sea Kings miraculously stopped it. Heck, the guards at the Air Cannon were watching the whole thing and even they don't know that she called the Sea Kings. They also have no reason to suspect that she has the ability to do so.
The only people who do know about her abilities are the Neptune family, VDD, Hodi Jones, his gang, Jimbe and the Strawhats. And I highly doubt any of them are going to spill the beans.
On a completely unrelated note, I guess this chapter confirms which Ancient Weapon Roger had discovered, back when Shiki asked him to team up and take over the world. Guess he learned it from Skypiea, just like Robin.
On a completely unrelated note, I guess this chapter confirms which Ancient Weapon Roger had discovered, back when Shiki asked him to team up and take over the world. Guess he learned it from Skypiea, just like Robin.
Maybe, however when roger was in fishman island shirahoshi hasn't been born yet, and, since robin didn't knew that shirahoshi was poseidon till now, roger probably only knew that poseidon was in fishman island but never found it.
Skypiea's phonegliph just says where is poseidon, not what it is. Robin just made the connection after see the seakings and yet it was only a guess until neptune confirmed it.
Maybe, however when roger was in fishman island shirahoshi hasn't been born yet, and, since robin didn't knew that shirahoshi was poseidon till now, roger probably only knew that poseidon was in fishman island but never found it.
Skypiea's phonegliph just says where is poseidon, not what it is. Robin just made the connection after see the seakings and yet it was only a guess until neptune confirmed it.
Yes, I had realized that as well. Though he obviously never wanted to find it, even if he did, he wouldn't had been able too. In the end, the joke's on Shiki.
I don't get why people seem to think that the 30k human pirates who went back to the New World are aware of Shirohoshi's powers. They never saw her call the Sea King; all they know was that Noah was falling and that the Sea Kings miraculously stopped it..
It will go like this:
Some of those pirates will get caught by the marines.
They will get interrogated. They will tell everything they know.
The information about the tried putsch on fishman Island plus the “planned” assassination attempt on the revere are both very important information and will get delivered to the 5 Elders.
They will read the report and they will read that Fishman Island was saved by Seakings. The will count 2 and 2 together because they KNOW about the void century.
They will send out a STRONG force to capture or kill Shirahoshi.
She will have only the options. Run or hide.
It will go like this:
Some of those pirates will get caught by the marines.
They will get interrogated. They will tell everything they know.
What's the reason to interrogate them?
She will have only the options. Run or hide.
Call the seakings
What's the reason to interrogate them?
Standart procedure. We have seen it already with Arlong.
It will be enough if they talk in a bar about what happened on Fishman Island. The WG information gathering service is excellent
Call the seakings
The lost empire during the void century had two known weapons of mass destruction (Pluton and Poseidon), allied countrys (Shandora, W7, Alabasta, FI of who we know) and they STILL went under.
She can’t hide on FI. The WG could destroy the Eve tree on the surface. This would make it make near impossible to live under the sea. It also goes against what they want and that is to make peace with the Humans. They will also not block every ship that wants to the new world. Undercover agents could hide in a pirate ship if the seakings stop every “marine” ship.
When Akainu is once inside FI 4 Island sized Seakings(the maximum amount we have seen she can call) will not stop him or any other Admiral and maybe some of the vice admirals. Not to forget countless possibilities with DFs.
Standart procedure. We have seen it already with Arlong.
It will be enough if they talk in a bar about what happened on Fishman Island. The WG information gathering service is excellent
false, teh interrogated arlong because they wanted to know the details of fisher tiger's death, as you can see here, first arlong says that tiger is dead and then kizaru "i'm going to have you come with me"
The void century had two known weapons of mass destruction (Pluton and Poseidon), allied countrys (Shandora, W7, Alabasta, FI of who we know) and they STILL went under.
You don't know the circumstances
She can’t hide on FI. The WG could destroy the Eve trey on the surface. This would make it make near impossible to live under the sea. It also goes against what they want and that is to make peace with the Humans. They will also not block every ship that wants to the new world. Undercover agents could hide in a pirate ship if the seakings stop every “marine” ship.
If the marines attack their princess then the plans to make plans with humans are completely screwed, either she escapes or fishmen refuse to give her in, fishman island will become an enemy of the wg. The consequences will be the same whether she escapes or hide in the island. their only way to survive is the destruction of every ship, not only marines. The only way to keep being an ally of the world government is giving her in, which they aren't going to do (unless shirahoshi wants to sacrifice herself)
When Akainu is once inside FI 4 Island sized Seakings(the maximum amount we have seen she can call) will not stop him or any other Admiral and maybe some of the vide admirals. Not to forget countless possibilities with DFs.
she has called at least seven.
If she stays in the sea out of the bubble, then all the devil fruits users will be useless.
Hey do you think that the SHs will encounter any of the pirates they saved on Fishman Island in the new world. It would be cool if Luffy had his own small army, although he doesn't need one.
If they do, I would like them to meet the Gyro Pirates. After all, the Gyro Pirates have no idea that the New Fishman Pirates were defeated and they won't find out unless they run into either the 30,000 human pirates that were slaves or the Straw Hats since this won't get reported in the newspapers.
false, teh interrogated arlong because they wanted to know the details of fisher tiger's death, as you can see here, first arlong says that tiger is dead and then kizaru "i'm going to have you come with me"
Arlong was just an example I came up with on spot. It doesn’t matter. It would be pretty stupid to not at least interrogate the captains. But like I said. A simple talk in the bar is more than enough to let the elders know about everything that happened on FI.
You don't know the circumstances
I know the result. WG destroyed them. Doesn’t matter which underhanded trick they used to win if they used any. It just shows that they are ready to do whatever it takes to get what they want
If the marines attack their princess then the plans to make plans with humans are completely screwed, either she escapes or fishmen refuse to give her in, fishman island will become an enemy of the wg. The consequences will be the same whether she escapes or hide in the island. their only way to survive is the destruction of every ship, not only marines. The only way to keep being an ally of the world government is giving her in, which they aren't going to do (unless shirahoshi wants to sacrifice herself)
If they go to war against the WG most, if not all of the FI citizens will die. I already told you an easy way to make the living on the bottom near impossible. Blocking every ship to go to the new world is also in favor of the WG.
The only way to avoid conflict and therefore certain destruction except that Shirahoshi gives herself in is to report that she ran away or/and that she became pirate and/or that she was kidnapped.
she has called at least seven..
Ok I didn’t check how many, my mistake but my points still stands. If the WG wants you and they KNOW where you are than you only have two options. Run or Hide because even if you can call Sea Kings you are still not safe from the fury and power of the WG. They rule for good reason the world. One little Isalnd will not prevail against their entire power.