As everyone said, zoro vs hyouzu! All is good in One Piece land. Did anyone see a bubble around luffy's hand when he did snake shot?
Chapter 639: "I`ll protect all" -Discussion
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Hyouzou now having the strenght Hody gained already…yeah fitting for Zoro
s opponent. But still the most threatening thing is his poison, whit which he infects his opponents. Iam curious how Zoro will handle this, because i don
t think he has the same antibody as Luffy has from his fight with Magellan.
Maybe Mihawk made him fight a swordfighter who was using poisend swords and so Zoro is adapted to such a villain like Hyouzou.
With CoA he may also be able to protect himself, because Luffy may wasn`t using it in the moment he attacked Hyouzou. -
@Don:
Hyouzou now having the strenght Hody gained already…yeah fitting for Zoro
s opponent. But still the most threatening thing is his poison, whit which he infects his opponents. Iam curious how Zoro will handle this, because i don
t think he has the same antibody as Luffy has from his fight with Magellan.
Maybe Mihawk made him fight a swordfighter who was using poisend swords and so Zoro is adapted to such a villain like Hyouzou.
With CoA he may also be able to protect himself, because Luffy may wasn`t using it in the moment he attacked Hyouzou.I'm more certain that he will actually get poisoned. Its not a zoro fight without a handicap~
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@Don:
Hyouzou now having the strenght Hody gained already…yeah fitting for Zoro
s opponent. But still the most threatening thing is his poison, whit which he infects his opponents. Iam curious how Zoro will handle this, because i don
t think he has the same antibody as Luffy has from his fight with Magellan.
Maybe Mihawk made him fight a swordfighter who was using poisend swords and so Zoro is adapted to such a villain like Hyouzou.
With CoA he may also be able to protect himself, because Luffy may wasn`t using it in the moment he attacked Hyouzou.That would be such an asspull in my opinion… I hate these kind of solutions to a problem. It occurs, and next thing we know is that some time in the past, previously unseen, the solution already came up. Lame.
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U missed the last page too ? its squid vs Zoro
Squids and Octopuses are not the same thing…
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@Don:
Hyouzou now having the strenght Hody gained already…yeah fitting for Zoro
s opponent. But still the most threatening thing is his poison, whit which he infects his opponents. Iam curious how Zoro will handle this, because i don
t think he has the same antibody as Luffy has from his fight with Magellan.
Maybe Mihawk made him fight a swordfighter who was using poisend swords and so Zoro is adapted to such a villain like Hyouzou.
With CoA he may also be able to protect himself, because Luffy may wasn`t using it in the moment he attacked Hyouzou.Easy he'll simply dodge all poison attacks.
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I fail…........
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Great chapter. I wish Robin would have gotten to fight Hyozou though. I was about to be hyped but then Zoro had to 'ruin it' :D. Who knows, maybe she will team up with Zoro. I doubt it though. I think after Zoro's 'warm up', he will enter the New World poisoned. It's unlike Zoro to leave a big arc/fight uninjured.
R.I.P. Decken. You will be missed.
Sanji and Jimbe are gunna mop the ocean floor with Wadatsumi - seemingly. Maybe Oda made this an actual match up because Wadatsumi has some surprises in store.
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So this means: Luffy > Zoro > Jinbe=Sanji power-wise! Hehehe just teasing. Had a fast read but nice chapter overall.
Thing with the ship was kind of a cheap trick. I mean she should have fleed elsewhere earlier.
And I'm negative with Sanji and Jinbe teaming up but there aren't much people who can endure their attacks. So it is kind of the only way for them to fight.
And Robin was extremely calm for a second she made me think she has CoO. Maybe she has, fits her well. -
Poor Wadatsumi. He doesn't stand the slightest chance against Jinbe and now he has Sanji on his ass as well. He certainly doesn't deserve this, he is like a retarded child :(.
And Decken will have his comeback, if he isn't even the one who kills Hody in the end (after all he locked on now).
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Jinbe did a Toriko. He did a 15-ren punch.
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@Myu:
And Robin was extremely calm for a second she made me think she has CoO. Maybe she has, fits her well.
Zoro had to save Hyouzou from Robin. Robin would have fucked him up so bad. (Sorry Hiroy. Had to steal it)
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Wow i'm having lots of Deja-vu here, Zoro versing a Octopus/Squid swordsman, Luffy in water wanting to fight Arlong('s brother) Sanji taking on the big dude.
Feels just like Arlong Park!
I can see why Jinbei might join the crew, but honestly i don't think they need him. Each crew member has a specific role and I don't know what Jinbei's role would be, Unless he is a secret scientist on his spare time or a Bartender or something, I don't think he will be much useful -
Was it clear from the SFX that the ship stopped moving?
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Yea I was talking about Much not Hyozou, I couldn't remember how his name got romanized lately the romanizations have been… strange.
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I was wondering with Luffy's "Snake Shot" attack whether it was the impact of the hit that hurt Hodi or was it that Luffy's fingers dug into him like the fangs of a snake would…
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The cover story excites me more.
I hope this means there will be reverie arc.
Can't wait to see SH meets that one nakama from Arabasta :D -
Three weeks ago Random fan: "BWARGLRRAWBLGRF Jinbe is doing nothing! He's just choking a fodder NFP while the others are doing awesome things! BWARGLRRAWBLGRF!!!"
Two weeks ago Random fan: "BWARGLRRAWBLGRF X 2 Jinbe is still choking a random fodder! What a shame! BWARGLRRAWBLGRFARARARAHGRFLSGH!!!" Six days ago Random fan: "n∑BWARGLRRAWBLGRF Jinbe, what the hell are you doing on the plaza? Unforgivable! BWARGLRRAWBLGRFabugubaba!!!" TODAY
Random fan: …oh.
Me: Thank you, Oda. Thank you very much. -
I really liked that Sanji and Jinbe are teaming up. For one we may get some combo attacks between the 2 witch would be awesome and only cement his joining even more. More importantly though is that we will have a direct comparison between the 2. Neither will completely over shadow one another but I'm certain Oda is taking this situation to make moment where Jinbe recognizes Sanji's strength as something remarkable. If only to let us readers know who is where on the food chain or that Sanji is just as good in all likelihood or better than a former warlord.
Two martial artists teaming up, each with a unique style? That's awesome!
Story wise I hate it because Wadatsumi looks like someone who came right out of Yoshi's Island. He is too cute and for goodness sake why couldn't Oda have given us an age?! As everyone else is mentioning it's like two bullies picking on the special kid, he's like a baby. Granted though he is pretty harry with a beard indicating he is very much an adult but still… On the other hand as long as he hits Jinbe or Sanji really hard once I will be content. I don't mean white eyes I just mean catch one of the off guard send em flying only to return more pissed than ever.
Most importantly is the cover page. Reverie is happening very soon, while the Straw Hat's are fighting it out Pell and co are getting new clothes for it! There is no way the Straw Hat's are completely leaving the Red Line before it happens.
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I could've asked this last week, but… where the f* is Shirahoshi going? Is she trying to get to the surface?
Wow i'm having lots of Deja-vu here, Zoro versing a Octopus/Squid swordsman, Luffy in water wanting to fight Arlong('s brother) Sanji taking on the big dude.
Feels just like Arlong Park!
I can see why Jinbei might join the crew, but honestly i don't think they need him. Each crew member has a specific role and I don't know what Jinbei's role would be, Unless he is a secret scientist on his spare time or a Bartender or something, I don't think he will be much usefulZoro says hi. You know him? The ship's "fighter".
Yea I was talking about Much not Hyozou, I couldn't remember how his name got romanized lately the romanizations have been… strange.
They were romanizing his name as Muhi until Oda romanized as Much himself. Maybe it's German? Don't know.
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Three weeks ago Random fan: "BWARGLRRAWBLGRF Jinbe is doing nothing! He's just choking a fodder NFP while the others are doing awesome things! BWARGLRRAWBLGRF!!!"
Two weeks ago Random fan: "BWARGLRRAWBLGRF X 2 Jinbe is still choking a random fodder! What a shame! BWARGLRRAWBLGRFARARARAHGRFLSGH!!!" Six days ago Random fan: "n∑BWARGLRRAWBLGRF Jinbe, what the hell are you doing on the plaza? Unforgivable! BWARGLRRAWBLGRFabugubaba!!!" TODAY
Random fan: …oh.
Me: Thank you, Oda. Thank you very much.Lol, well it's true, Jinbei hasn't been getting much action.
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Lol, well it's true, Jinbei hasn't been getting much action.
If he protects Fishman Island I'm sure that will change
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Is she trying to get to the surface?
That's the right idea although I don't know if she wants to get all the way up (I mean its 10 km).
Her main motive right now is to get the ship away from the sea ground where it could be damaged by rocks. -
On the subject of Reverie, I have no doubt it'll become important eventually. But as far as the theory that it's gonna be right after this fight goes, the fact that Chaka and Pell are still in Alabasta fitting for clothes that will take time to make leaves me doubtful.
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Nice to see Sanji's attack was on par with Jinbei's
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Finally, Zoro Vs Hyozou
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Luffy's rape face is simply the best thing ever.
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There has gotta be a side-affect for the steroids, otherwise it is merely just a random plot device to make these random fodder opponents stronger just to match to the Straw Hats…
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Wow i'm having lots of Deja-vu here, Zoro versing a Octopus/Squid swordsman, Luffy in water wanting to fight Arlong('s brother) Sanji taking on the big dude.
Feels just like Arlong Park!
I can see why Jinbei might join the crew, but honestly i don't think they need him. Each crew member has a specific role and I don't know what Jinbei's role would be, Unless he is a secret scientist on his spare time or a Bartender or something, I don't think he will be much usefulFirstly I stand by my oppinnion that the only thing Hody and Arlong have in common is that they are racist fishmen with similar end goals. Hody is indeed EXACTLY like an east blue villain in terms of personality though. Destroying his allies if it means winning the fight, does this sound familiar? Like poisoning your second in command to win a fight? Dosun even pointed out that Hody wouldn't hesitate to kill him if he betrayed him when he was captured by the princes. Sound familiar? Yea, Hody IS Don Krieg.
And when it comes to the second point, I think Urogue and a million others have pointed out several times a day for the past year that Jinbe would most likely fill the helmsman position that Burgess fills in BB's crew. The same way that Zoro has always acted as the unofficial "look out" for the crew since hes always in the crow's nest. They base this argument off of how Jinbe has been seen at the helm Every single time he has been on a moving boat save one or two scenes in the flashback where he was busy.
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@Jumping:
There has gotta be a side-affect for the steroids, otherwise it is merely just a random plot device to make these random fodder opponents stronger just to match to the Straw Hats…
It's a plot device to make the opponents strong enough for the straw hats, as you said. But it's the only way to not make the Straw Hats look weak after two years of training, before they even reach the New World. We can't have opponents who are naturally strong. To me it's a plot device that works.
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Nice to see Sanji's attack was on par with Jinbei's
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Finally, Zoro Vs Hyozou
And…
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Luffy's rape face is simply the best thing ever.
I love the obvious reference to this: http://www.mangareader.net/103-2620-17/one-piece/chapter-513.html
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Wow i'm having lots of Deja-vu here, Zoro versing a Octopus/Squid swordsman, Luffy in water wanting to fight Arlong('s brother) Sanji taking on the big dude.
Feels just like Arlong Park!
I can see why Jinbei might join the crew, but honestly i don't think they need him. Each crew member has a specific role and I don't know what Jinbei's role would be, Unless he is a secret scientist on his spare time or a Bartender or something, I don't think he will be much usefulJimbei will be the ship's bouncer. From now on, any new crew members have to be on his list to get on the Sunny Go. Also, since the crew will have about 10 crew members at this point, no one will be on that list.
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I wonder why Wadatsum Played along with Zeo's Lie even tough He KNEW it was a lie ?
And Im Happy that Zoro Can Have all the fun after Injuring SSJ Hyozou, Cause as some Random Fish Stated "He haden't even been injured yet, but he's writhing all around".
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It's a plot device to make the opponents strong enough for the straw hats, as you said. But it's the only way to not make the Straw Hats look weak after two years of training, before they even reach the New World. We can't have opponents who are naturally strong. To me it's a plot device that works.
Yeah I guess I am just nitpicking, but I feel as if they need a side-affect, otherwise they are just some ultimate strength booster…
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http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/30792763/10
Did Luffy's fingers pierce Hodi? If so, Shigan. -
- Nice to see Sanji's attack was on par with Jinbei's
The NFP's are scared to the bone by Jinbe's roundhouse kick, while they only comment that Sanji's was "nice too".
It would make sense to use the Sanji/Jinbe team mode to measure the formers development, but I seriously hope he gets his own fight like Zoro later on.
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@Jumping:
Yeah I guess I am just nitpicking, but I feel as if they need a side-affect, otherwise they are just some ultimate strength booster…
Maybe the transformation Hody and Hyouzou went through is the limit? I don't think they're going to get stronger with additional pills after that.
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http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/30792763/10
Did Luffy's fingers pierce Hodi? If so, Shigan.It did remind me of Jabura's Jusshigan, only this one is the long range version.
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Maybe the transformation Hody and Hyouzou went through is the limit? I don't think they're going to get stronger with additional pills after that.
I guess it's possible that their strength got bigger but something else got smaller
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That Robin vs. Hyozo tease was so not cool, Oda. So not cool…
Ah well, there's still...
Nami-Usopp-Chopper-Robin-Franky-Brook
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Dosun-Muchi-Daruma-Zeo-er... wasn't there one more at least?
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@Jumping:
Yeah I guess I am just nitpicking, but I feel as if they need a side-affect, otherwise they are just some ultimate strength booster…
the pills shorten your life
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@Jumping:
I guess it's possible that their strength got bigger but something else got smaller
and what would that something else be? :P
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the pills shorten your life
many pills even moreAhh cool, thanks, I knew there had to be some side-affect to the pills…
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And when it comes to the second point, I think Urogue and a million others have pointed out several times a day for the past year that Jinbe would most likely fill the helmsman position that Burgess fills in BB's crew. The same way that Zoro has always acted as the unofficial "look out" for the crew since hes always in the crow's nest. They base this argument off of how Jinbe has been seen at the helm Every single time he has been on a moving boat save one or two scenes in the flashback where he was busy.
If I remember correctly, Usopp and Chopper have been seen at the helm a few times already, so that position is already "filled".
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If I remember correctly, Usopp and Chopper have been seen at the helm a few times already, so that position is already "filled".
But that's like Usopp being the initial carpenter, until Franky came along. They both already have a specific job. Well, I'm not even behind the "Jinbe for Helmsman" argument, but wanted to point out the flaw in that comment. Cheers.
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So this chapter tells me the following things:
Zoro will beat his oponent, but get poisoned to be saved by Choppers new medical skills.
Jimbei will join. If he even gets a panel for fighting alongside the SHC, he's practically in.
These fights won't bring anyone of the SHC close to death. As Zoro said, it's basically a warm up for the NW; or in the reader's point of view: we won't see the most badass attacks of the crew now. After 2 years of training, they should not go all out on a bunch of drug addicts…
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Sry, doublepost due to techniqual issues…
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So when will Luffy get his amazing strength feat? He's being way the hell overshadowed by Sanji & Jimbei right now. Maybe it's simply not the time but just the possibility of Luffy now being all about a million fancy trinkets and falling way behind in genuine physical strength just makes me feel empty despite all the amazing amazingness going on in basically the whole chapter. Unless my interpretation of Snake Shot as a five-fingered Shigan copy is wrong and it's actually Luffy causing that much pain just by gripping Hody, which would be fantastic, but considering Luffy said "It's not as powerful underwater" the former seems more plausible.
Besides that… like I said, great chapter. Jimbei is twice as physically strong as a giant much larger than Oars, Sanji is awesome without using DJ. Guessing them vs. Wadatsumi is basically a joke fight / red herring considering how easily they could obviously stomp him individually. Zoro vs. Hyouzou is expected though I honestly would have preferred it if he and Hody didn't get "transformations" with redesigns. They looked much better before.
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Next chapter: Hody stabs Shirahoshi, luffy screams out: "Protect everything!? Yeah Right!… I'm Weak!"
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Sanji called Wadatsumi a manjuu. He sounds tasty now, but personally, I'd like him as the fried rice paste variety.
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Why didn't Hodi just straight away kill Shirahoshi, then she would start falling down towards Fishman Island and Noah would follow her down…