Where does it say that there will definitely be two more?
Last Two Nakamates (vol. 5)
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Where does it say that there will definitely be two more?
Chapter one states:
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Luffy: Get it now, you big fish?! (grin)
Hnnn!!
First of all, I have to find a crew.
Ten should do it!!Combined with the fact that Zoro's joining chapter was entitled "The First", reinforcing that Luffy was not including himself in the count, he's looking for 10 people.
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Technically it should be one because the SHC are the only ones that count their ship as their nakama, so I presume Thousand Sunny is one like Going Merry was.
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Technically speaking also Vivi and Carue are part of the crew.
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Technically it should be one because the SHC are the only ones that count their ship as their nakama, so I presume Thousand Sunny is one like Going Merry was.
Sorry, but Oda's numbering system disagrees with you. http://www.mangareader.net/103-2596-1/one-piece/chapter-489.html
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I wonder if Luffy wants to make a professional soccer team.
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If it turns out that Mr. 2 is still alive, do you think he would join the Straw Hats? Or if did not have to sacrifice himself at Impel Down, would he have joined the crew?
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Luffy: ON TO THE NEXT ISLAND GUYS
Geologist: Actually we can't - this island has a unique lithologic I'll need to use some stratigraphy we'll need to wait a bit while I study this indepth and understand it's meaning
Luffy: What is ratrafty? is it meat?
Geologist: No Luffy, it's the study of volcanic rocks and sedimentary.
Luffy: Volcano? WHAT AIKANU?!?! GEAR 2ND JET BAZOOKA
Geologist: (clearing dust) No it's just rocks I need to study
Luffy: How long?
Geologist: Oh don't worry it'll be a quick 17yearsseconds just to study an island this size.Because this is One Piece, FIXED. Ask Franky for the SUUUPER details in procedural time reduction.
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If it's a definite 2 more, I'd like them to be Jimbei and Vivi.
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If it's a definite 2 more, I'd like them to be Jimbei and Vivi.
That won't happen.
Vivi and Jinbei have their own lives outside the Straw-hats.
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That won't happen.
Vivi and Jinbei have their own lives outside the Straw-hats.
I totally agree with you. But there are quite a number of blind Jinbei fans on this forum. But judging by the polls, I'm glad the majority of ppl who visited this thread is rational.
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I totally agree with you. But there are quite a number of blind Jinbei fans on this forum.
Ha, that's not the worst of it I've seen lol. Jinbei confirmed he quit his position as Warlord during Marineford yet some think the WG will re-instate him again. (Go figure)
This whole potential Straw hat member thing and Yonkou possibility doesn't help. I can imagine him having his Danny Glover moment and putting his feet up after the fishman saga or get a new pirate crew and have his own adventures and admiring Luffy and the Straw hats like he did with Whitebeard and his crew. But losing his Warlord status cost him entry into his homeland, so you wander if he's going to exile after the whole Hody Jones Saga.
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Ha, that's not the worst of it I've seen lol. Jinbei confirmed he quit his position as Warlord during Marineford yet some think the WG will re-instate him again. (Go figure)
This whole potential Straw hat member thing and Yonkou possibility doesn't help. I can imagine him having his Danny Glover moment and putting his feet up after the fishman saga or get a new pirate crew and have his own adventures and admiring Luffy and the Straw hats like he did with Whitebeard and his crew. But losing his Warlord status cost him entry into his homeland, so you wander if he's going to exile after the whole Hody Jones Saga.
well, that guy was just saying he wanted to see Jinbei and Vivi to join, there is nothing wrong in having preferences. Yea I know what you mean, there are worse ones out there.
It's arguable what Jinbei will do after this saga. His loyalty stays with island, the people. During the 2yr timeskip he still stayed near the island, but hidden from public knowledge. If fisherman island is going to be destroyed with the implication that the Noah will carry all the residents above ground, I'm more inclined to think that Jinbei will secretly play a role in the establishment of a new homeland. To me, he is just too important, too rational and too responsible an individual to go on an adventure which he never desired before even when he was a pirate. Such a principled and established man does not play around like the Straw Hat.
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I totally agree with you. But there are quite a number of blind Jinbei fans on this forum. But judging by the polls, I'm glad the majority of ppl who visited this thread is rational.
Whoa, talk about getting personal. I'll keep in mind that it's ok to call you blind and irrational when I disagree with you since you seem to believe in that.
That said, you're freaking blind not to see that Jinbe is a logical assumption for next crewmate. It doesn't have to happen, but it definitely makes sense to think it might.
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I totally agree with you. But there are quite a number of blind Jinbei fans on this forum. But judging by the polls, I'm glad the majority of ppl who visited this thread is rational.
Noqanky already said what needed to be said. You have over 10 years worth of story to see how Oda works to make logical conclusions about who may join given the current information. You obviously don't understand Oda's process in the slightest.
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well, that guy was just saying he wanted to see Jinbei and Vivi to join, there is nothing wrong in having preferences. Yea I know what you mean, there are worse ones out there.
It's arguable what Jinbei will do after this saga. His loyalty stays with island, the people. During the 2yr timeskip he still stayed near the island, but hidden from public knowledge. If fisherman island is going to be destroyed with the implication that the Noah will carry all the residents above ground, I'm more inclined to think that Jinbei will secretly play a role in the establishment of a new homeland. To me, he is just too important, too rational and too responsible an individual to go on an adventure which he never desired before even when he was a pirate. Such a principled and established man does not play around like the Straw Hat.
Hey, if that's their opinion that's fine, but the is case like Vivi and as you mention is the greater responsibility Jinbei has with his people. If his homeland is destroyed as Shirley predicted, it might necessarily be a bad thing. It has the smell of Alabasta MK II. in which Jinbei with the help of the straw-hats will remove the main antagonist and help re-build the broken kingdom back through repatriation, much like Vivi did. It makes sense to me reading a bit of Manga that could happen, but we'll see through anime anyway. I could be way off the mark lol, so I'll hold fire till then.
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The "female nightmare" trio would be complete…
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Noqanky already said what needed to be said. You have over 10 years worth of story to see how Oda works to make logical conclusions about who may join given the current information. You obviously don't understand Oda's process in the slightest.
TBH, looks like Jinbei is going to temporarily join like Vivi did, but in the main to save his people the best way he can. I don't think that's an unreasonable hypothesis as Oda implemented it quite well in the Alabasta saga with Vivi.
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TBH, looks like Jinbei is going to temporarily join like Vivi did, but in the main to save his people the best way he can. I don't think that's an unreasonable hypothesis as Oda implemented it quite well in the Alabasta saga.
I do think that Jinbe could not join so he can stay and take care of his people and stuff. Assuming Jinbe is like Vivi in some way … which is not necessarily the case.
When you have so many characters who could do that Jinbe doesn't really seem that necessary for reconstruction. Neptune, Fukaboshi, Ryuuboshi, Manboshi, and Shirahoshi all are likely to stay in the island and help it since they're the royalty, like Vivi was for Alabasta. Not to mention Luffy might leave Surume behind as yet another protector, as well as the many seakings Shirahoshi will probably learn to summon.
And like others have mentioned, Jinbe isn't even safely allowed in the island due to his status as being outside of the law. Which is even worse for an island that is trying to get into reverie: they can't do so and explain how the wanted pirate is helping them rebuild the island.
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Right now i highly doubt shirahoshi will join because mermaids can't perform well on land and we all know she;s weak. Same for the princes…. who in comparison to the strawhats are also very weak. Jimbei's bounty is damn high but I guess it doesn't mean much for the time being. Unless a new character was revealed to me that can swim and breathe underwater I'll listen to the other half of my brain and say that jimbei's joining until we reach the GYOJIN KARATE DOJO
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TBH, looks like Jinbei is going to temporarily join like Vivi did, but in the main to save his people the best way he can. I don't think that's an unreasonable hypothesis as Oda implemented it quite well in the Alabasta saga with Vivi.
I honestly think that doesn't make any sense at all. Vivi traveled with the SH's because there was a destination to be reached. Maybe i'm understanding your thinking wrong but why would he travel with the SH's to help is people if he was just going to turn around at some point eventually? Jinbe leaving his home town all together would be best for FI. Even as a warlord he barely accomplished anything.
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TBH, looks like Jinbei is going to temporarily join like Vivi did, but in the main to save his people the best way he can. I don't think that's an unreasonable hypothesis as Oda implemented it quite well in the Alabasta saga with Vivi.
Yea I don't object to him having the possibility of joining temporarily. But that is fundamentally different. Then he is just a guest, not an actual crew member.
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I cannot see Jinbei joining, as I couldn't see Vivi joining after Alabasta.
While someone of Jinbei's strength in water is missing from the crew, I think he is too strong and noble to be part of the crew.
I don't think we will see the tenth/ninth one until we get to the New World. No one in this arc seems right to join.
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Why do I see so many people comparing a wanted pirate to a princess?
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I honestly think that doesn't make any sense at all. Vivi traveled with the SH's because there was a destination to be reached. Maybe i'm understanding your thinking wrong but why would he travel with the SH's to help is people if he was just going to turn around at some point eventually? Jinbe leaving his home town all together would be best for FI. Even as a warlord he barely accomplished anything.
His title + Whitebeard's words ensured peace and stability on the island. That was his original purpose in accepting that role in the first place. You can't say that's nothing. In this sense, he is quite similar to Hancock.
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His title + Whitebeard's words ensured peace and stability on the island. That was his original purpose in accepting that role in the first place. You can't say that's nothing. In this sense, he is quite similar to Hancock.
That has absolutely nothing to do with the thing you quoted. Wait, unless you mean that they're similar in that they teamed up with Luffy to protect their homeland.
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I don't think anyone with a reputation as big as Jinbei's or Hancock's could ever join the crew. The SH is all about taking people by surprise - the only two who came with a reputation are Zoro, but as a bounty hunter, not a pirate, and Robin, again not as a pirate.
Someone already a world famous pirate could never join the crew [in my opinion]. They make their names through the SH crew. Plus like Hancock and Vivi he has more important duties.
He also lacks a dream that can be achieved through SH adventures.
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That has absolutely nothing to do with the thing you quoted. Wait, unless you mean that they're similar in that they teamed up with Luffy to protect their homeland.
"Even as a warlord he barely accomplished anything."
I was addressing his last point about Jinbei not even accomplishing anything with his title.
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I honestly think that doesn't make any sense at all. Vivi traveled with the SH's because there was a destination to be reached. Maybe i'm understanding your thinking wrong but why would he travel with the SH's to help is people if he was just going to turn around at some point eventually? Jinbe leaving his home town all together would be best for FI. Even as a warlord he barely accomplished anything.
That's not what I meant exactly. I didn't say anything about Jinbei travelling with the Straw-Hats. I simply meant his temporary joining with Luffy and co. against the common enemy in the saga and main antagonist (Like Vivi with Crocodile) is the point I was making. He's already near enough to his homeland anyway, no need to travel really.
He could get a pardon from Neptune if Jinbei helps keep the peace against Hody Jones and co. and lift his banishment from Fishman Island which is plausible. But he could also decide to forsee the re-building from afar and offer assistance in other ways, if Shirley's prediction proves to be literally correct.Hope this explains my thoughts better.
Yea I don't object to him having the possibility of joining temporarily. But that is fundamentally different. Then he is just a guest, not an actual crew member.
Such as Vivi really. But the most powerful guest who's actually really useful in a fight lol.
It's fair to say Jinbei feelings about Luffy is as strong as it was for Ace now. He wouldn't have got involved if Luffy wasn't there. -
Honestly after Luffy's sheenanigans since EL i'd reckon that he's way more famous than Jinbe will ever be
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Why do I see so many people comparing a wanted pirate to a princess?
I did it to make a point. It was an analogy.
Problem?
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Honestly after Luffy's sheenanigans since EL i'd reckon that he's way more famous than Jinbe will ever be
His status is confirmed when a pirate crew went out of their way to change their crappy lives on the sea to impersonate him and the SHC.
Legendary rookie methinks.
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I don't think anyone with a reputation as big as Jinbei's or Hancock's could ever join the crew. The SH is all about taking people by surprise - the only two who came with a reputation are Zoro, but as a bounty hunter, not a pirate, and Robin, again not as a pirate.
Someone already a world famous pirate could never join the crew [in my opinion]. They make their names through the SH crew. Plus like Hancock and Vivi he has more important duties.
A two year timeskip means you should think about things differently. A new crew member can't be way behind when they join.
"Even as a warlord he barely accomplished anything."
I was addressing his last point about Jinbei not even accomplishing anything with his title.
Oh, I see. You should trim the quote in the future to avoid confusion then, because that's not really the point of the quote was about as a whole.
He could get a pardon from Neptune if Jinbei helps keep the peace against Hody Jones and co. and lift his banishment from Fishman Island which is plausible.
Lol what. That'd be like Luffy getting a pardon from Cobra so that he'd be allowed to hang out on Alabasta. That's not the problem.
I did it to make a point. It was an analogy.
Problem?
The problem is that one's a princess and the other is a wanted pirate. The WG sort of treats the two differently.
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A two year timeskip means you should think about things differently. A new crew member can't be way behind when they join.
I don't think you can say that. A 2-yr timeskip does not instantly legitimize a different approach to thinking about storyline. You might be right in saying "a new crew member can't be way behind", but it's not impossible to have a new character in the New World who have lived a normal life to embark on a journey with the SH if becoming a pirate is his dream.
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I don't think you can say that. A 2-yr timeskip does not instantly legitimize a different approach to thinking about storyline. You might be right in saying "a new crew member can't be way behind", but it's not impossible to have a new character in the New World who have lived a normal life to embark on a journey with the SH if becoming a pirate is his dream.
Going slightly off tangent here, but could Trafalgar Law recruiting Jean Bart scenario present itself to Luffy in SA with a pirate slave under the world nobles or more likely Fishman Island with someone like Hyouzou?
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I don't think you can say that. A 2-yr timeskip does not instantly legitimize a different approach to thinking about storyline. You might be right in saying "a new crew member can't be way behind", but it's not impossible to have a new character in the New World who have lived a normal life to embark on a journey with the SH if becoming a pirate is his dream.
I'm pretty sure you just contradicted yourself. Anyone who lived a normal life will be way behind.
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hyozou is someone I am watching close, I think there is alot more to him then we have seen, Sure he is a swordsman but his style is unique, and I would like to see his "Drunk" swordsmanship in action more. We also have not seen him since the princes where defeated(he was sleeping on a rock) He did not even bother to help Hody and gang.
Luffy being the judge of strength he is even admitted to his strength, He does not strike me as the evil in the shadows guy in this arc, after all from what we know he is just a simple mercenary, he has no Ill will toward anyone unless they are poor, or Noisy.
I like to think if we get a underwater Nakama in this arc he is in the running, even based on the very limited exposure we have seen. Jinebi to me seems to important to the story, and to fishman island to go off into the grand line again with luffy, his age is passed I feel(not in skill or anything like that) but even a veteran like Jinbei knows it is Luffys age.
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I think the next Straw Hat will be Bonney. Her eating habits are perfect for the crew, she has a strange yet useful power, and she's a girl.
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I think the next Straw Hat will be Bonney. Her eating habits are perfect for the crew, she has a strange yet useful power, and she's a girl.
Interesting thoery that.
But no.
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His title + Whitebeard's words ensured peace and stability on the island. That was his original purpose in accepting that role in the first place. You can't say that's nothing. In this sense, he is quite similar to Hancock.
His title didn't even do that, sure it may have helped somewhat but it was all White Beard. Jinbe explained that FI was very unstable until White Beard claimed it as his own. We can see in his mini flash back how even he was powerless to save his people, at least on a grand scale. If I'm not mistaken White Beard declared FI his territory before Jinbe became a Warlord and it was then when human traffickers and pirates started to lay off completely. Him accepting the title probably did zilch compared to what White Beards decleration did. What Jinbe accomplished by being a war lord was just getting on friendlier terms with the WG.
You can't compare Hancock's situation to Jinbe's, she has the calm belt. Not only that people want mermaids to kidnap not Hakified tomboys. She hardly has the protection issues Jinbe has. She protects her island from the government by staying a War Lord, if she wants to be like Jinbe she can quit and protect her island by running away.
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I'm pretty sure you just contradicted yourself. Anyone who lived a normal life will be way behind.
I did not contradict myself. But I should clarify what I meant. A normal life as in a life of NOT being a pirate. Anything else on an island in the New World is fine. That means the person can have a devil fruit, or other abilities or titles but the key here is "NOT a pirate". Yes he/she will be way behind in reputation in the pirate world. But you can't say 100% that someone like that couldn't join because that is how almost every single one of the straw hats joined. So essentially, another member who will join with a background typical to any one of the straw hats (most of them are rookie, except Brook and maybe Robin). That's what you are denying here by your logic.
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Unless Hyouzou is given another opportunity on screen that doesn't involve him with the other NFP, very little evidence for him to join; he's still too mysterious of a character. There's nothing wrong with having three swordsmen in the crew, especially that they'd also have a very dependable fighter underwater, so it's not a bad idea… it's just lying in wait. It also depends on whether he'll be like Robin and join them without much known about him at first, but we later can learn more about him.
Plus, the comedy scenes are boundless with a drunk. The problem is that he attacks people randomly when he's drunk... or is that the joke?
Whatever. Jinbe's chances are still the highest out of any candidate now.
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His title didn't even do that, sure it may have helped somewhat but it was all White Beard. Jinbe explained that FI was very unstable until White Beard claimed it as his own. We can see in his mini flash back how even he was powerless to save his people, at least on a grand scale. If I'm not mistaken White Beard declared FI his territory before Jinbe became a Warlord and it was then when human traffickers and pirates started to lay off completely. Him accepting the title probably did zilch compared to what White Beards decleration did. What Jinbe accomplished by being a war lord was just getting on friendlier terms with the WG.
You can't compare Hancock's situation to Jinbe's, she has the calm belt. Not only that people want mermaids to kidnap not Hakified tomboys. She hardly has the protection issues Jinbe has. She protects her island from the government by staying a War Lord, if she wants to be like Jinbe she can quit and protect her island by running away.
I agree with you that Whitebeard's words in a practical sense, mattered more than Jinbei's title as a Shikibukai in terms of the actual effect of protecting the island.
I am talking about his intention which was to protect his crew and his island with the title which gave him legitimacy under the WG. In that sense, he is very much similar to Hancock. The calm belt is just additional protection, it doesn't cancel out the fact that both want the title of Shikibukai as a way to protect their crew, their people, their respective islands.
Whether their title actually helped is another story. You were saying his title didn't do anything. You simply cannot draw such a conclusion. The actual effect of the Shikibukai title in deterring pirates is not something you can measure, thus you can't say nothing resulted out of it, neither can you say it was the sole reason for the peace and stability of the island. -
Wow, this thread is going all over the place. But first …
First of all, I am not talking to you …
Not important.
Secondly, aren't you being hypocritical when you use those words on a personal attack direct targetted toward me?
Missed my point.
I did not address anyone explicitly, there are some Jinbei lovers who are logical in their argument but there are also those ones who were just fooled by their personal preferences toward the character.
But you did implicitly. You implied that all those who at some point voted on the poll with the belief that Jinbe would join are irrational. Sure, now you say that there are some who are rabid fans while others are logical, but it's not my fault you completely failed to convey that in the post I quoted.
Thirdly, there is nothing distasteful in those words that you can't use in a normal argument. If you think those words are too strong for you, I'm not sure if you are too sensitive toward criticism or other weird reasons that make you so spiteful.
You don't jump into an argument calling people irrational and blind and then expect them not to be insulted or to find that distasteful. Tact says that you attack and defend arguments, not people.
Also, not spiteful, I commented because someone should point out, for your sake, that you are coming off as a distasteful moron who can't write. It's not criticism I care about, I welcome it in fact. Just convey things in a non-stupid way and then I'll be fine with things.
To clarify, I'm not calling you stupid. I don't know you. I am merely saying the kind of image you conveyed was that of a narrow-minded idiot. You can do better.With regard to Jinbei, your opinion is an opinion and my opinion is also an opinion, which happen to agree with 58% of the people who visit this thread as opposed to to 17% minority who agree with you. Like I said, some Jinbei arguments are logical, some are not. You cannot claim that everyone who supports Jinbei has presented a logical argument. That group of individuals as I've said are blinded by their personal emotions toward Jinbei and thus are irrational. Enough said.
Majority doesn't decide who will or will not join the crew.
I don't care about illogical Jinbe arguments because it's the logical ones I agree with. Just because an idiot believes in something for the wrong reasons doesn't mean the argument is null for having are idiots believing it.
And, again I reiterate that you referred to the whole Jinbe-supporting community as irrational. Had you added "Not all of you are irrational, mind you, just some", then I would agree with you and wouldn't have to do this whole process of replying to you and educating you on why I answered the way I did.All that aside, I agree with Urouge.
Also, just drop Bonney as a candidate people. The way things are now, it's fanfiction.
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Going slightly off tangent here, but could Trafalgar Law recruiting Jean Bart scenario present itself to Luffy in SA with a pirate slave under the world nobles or more likely Fishman Island with someone like Hyouzou?
So far in this arc, there is no sufficiently strong evidence for any to join. Your scenario is not impossible. But there is nothing supporting it at this point. It's merely a speculation, which I feel we should refrain from because there are just so many possibilities.
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I did not contradict myself. But I should clarify what I meant. A normal life as in a life of NOT being a pirate. Anything else on an island in the New World is fine. That means the person can have a devil fruit, or other abilities or titles but the key here is "NOT a pirate". Yes he/she will be way behind in reputation in the pirate world. But you can't say 100% that someone like that couldn't join because that is how almost every single one of the straw hats joined. So essentially, another member who will join with a background typical to any one of the straw hats (most of them are rookie, except Brook and maybe Robin). That's what you are denying here by your logic.
It seems we have different definitions of what a "normal life" is. I don't consider a bounty hunter who's strong enough to join the crew to be someone who's leading a "normal life." But we understand each other now, so there's no sense harping on it.
Reputation and strength tend to go hand in hand. Unless a person has been training in secret for some weird reason or something, they'll have a reputation worthy of their strength.
But no, a new member doesn't not have to be a pirate before they join. However, a pirate makes as good a candidate for a previous career as any.