@Ryuksgelus:
That is not the point. Haki is still something difficult to manifest. That is why Rayleigh says even 2 years may not be enough for Luffy, someone particularly skilled in it, to master it. Other SH aren't going to start manifesting it like Kuja warriors because of a few pointers from Luffy. Ussop with CoO and maybe Robin learning something forms is all that makes sense.
Mastering DF, Haki, and other martial arts or combat styles is what separates people like the Admirals from Ace. Of course you would be more powerful but only the very best of the best accomplish such a thing.
That is ridiculous. Haki lets you power-up your attacks but how can you say powered up projectiles are more powerful than plants of varying use? That is an extremely narrow view of one powers capabilities over another. For people like Yassop, Ben Beckman, and Van Auger who use guns and are/will be extremely adept at Haki use of CoA powers them up immensely. Ussop will never reach Ben Beckmans level of haki mastery or his father's deadly sniping skills so Oda gave him an alternative in pop greens. They boost his offense, defense, and even the ability to support the SH and cripple foes and fit his style as an unorthodox and versatile fighter. Not a deadly efficient sniper. While this was seen as his greatest strength it was never really the focus of his character or was was tested in his battles.
Conjuring Hurricanes, Tornadoes, Blizzards, and who knows else is less powerful than powering up physical attacks? That is wrong on so many levels. You're saying that a Black Mage is weaker than a warrior.
It makes it highly unlikely because tech is his skill. You're severely underestimating how difficult it is to actually manifest Haki. Kuja warriors are born into culture where its common practice and are trained in it since birth. The real reason the M.trio have and will manifest it because they have been training as warriors all their lives. The other SH are skilled combatants but other skills take precedence over becoming the greatest warrior possible. Cutty Flam was no slouch so I think its safe to say he'd be a super-human if he focused on improving his combat skills over his his engineering skills. Same goes for all shipwrights(to a lesser degree) since they split their time between ships and beating up on pirates. Haki becomes far harder to manifest when the majority of your life was spent going down another path. Its just like Rayleigh's comment on leaning towards one color over another. Same is true of other skills. More you focus on a particular craft the less skilled you will be in others. Franky is primarily an engineer who uses those skills augment his power making up for his lack of combat training.
Franky will do that by becoming the best in his craft as he possibly can. You keep imagining some limitation to other powers as if controlling weather or being a cyborg plateaus at some point and you have to master another skill to improve. Its not the same as Luffy's DF or being a Martial artist like Sanji where Haki is the obvious upgrade. Only limitations for Nami, Franky, and Ussop is Oda's imagination.
Now you're speaking stupidities. There are less than a dozen logias on the entire planet. Franky and most fighters do not care about making sure dealing with those handful of fighters is within their capabilities. If their powers can get them through 99.9999% of their ordeals then that is great. He doesn't need seastone anything as he will never be expected to take on an Admiral and Haki is unneeded if a logia has an easily exploitable weakness like Croc, Ace, or Caribou(extreme heat or cold).
So you want Haki instead of characters with other expertise using their skills in creative ways to get through intense situations?
Haki wouldn't allow Jinbe to do anything Vista and Marco couldn't do to Akainu.
This is an interesting point of view you showed me. It's opposed to mine, but, that's true.
So, i'll agree haki is a thing really hard to awaken. Until the end, it will remain a power that will remain rare.
Franky, Ussop, and Nami will probably not have to deal with a logia as they are few, here you're right again. And, not just them, but, most of the crew that are not in the Monster 3.
But, when we are near the end, SH will surely have met lot of character that mastered haki, or, not a lot, but most of the character that mastered haki. We can say by now that they have to know about it. So, when they will see haki, they will recognize it. They will see what it looks like, and how to use it. I don't expect them to use haki all the time, or to master it to use it all the time, just, to see it so many times that they can master it easily in the end.
Because, we figured out in the end of the first part of Grand Line that they all have to reinforced their skiils. So, now they will enter the 2nd part that is way more harder than the first, they will see incredibles foes. If they all know haki (that would be surprising), then, SH will have to get through them and awaken it in a "last time power-up" or to improve their own skills. Those skills can't be reinforced easily, and when they will reach their limits, then they would have a power-up that Oda already explained.
Don't know whether it'll hapen or not, I just think haki will end up reinforcing them inside the SH own skills.
Nami mastering Coo would not increase her offensive skills. But, she could use her skills to improve her weather forecast.
Ussop don't need haki by now. It can help him touching logia, but, how will he improve his way of fighting ? He really is unique, but then, what can he do to improve his plants and weapons ? I suppose he'll increase his range with Coo, at the very least.
I suppose these are supposed to be a thing like their finals power-up, when they will all know this power that rare, to make them elite of the elite.
Of course, i don't expect it to be like, "haki is really an easy thing to awaken etc.", but, that they learn from their experience of fight with haki users.
That's what i want, and if Oda use your way, now, it won't bother me cause his talent to tell story would make me forget my wishes
Then, the second part.
@JonesDking:
Theres no need for smugness or rudeness.We are debating as Adults here
Here I was childish. Sorry about that, but, sometimes, i can be that low.
@JonesDking:
Yes he should Increase his power as high as he can-and if he cant awaken haki then he should find or develop some alternative power to make up for the lack of it.You understand my piont.There will be strawhats who cant waken haki and they will make up for it in some other way or powerup.For example if Usopp cant awaken CoA haki-he could make up for it by wearing actual Armor.THere are many powereups Oda can come up with for the Shs who cant use Haki.And it doesnt have to be seastone alone either.
Yeah, there are many power-up Oda can make, but, haki could be a power that suits to anyone the way he wants to use it, and in that case, Ussop could use haki knowing it, but, without changing his style, just in improving it a little. That's what is interesant in haki, it is not a thing you see at the first eye-sight. For example, WB used haki, but, he probably did have his way of fight before he learned haki. Haki was just an improvement allowed by training and experience.
But, as i said, maybe Ussop will never know haki, but, he'll remain a "normal human" and as haki is not a power of superhuman, we can think he's gonna master it to go with his "tricking style". Or, we can think he won't, and noone would be right even when Oda gives the answer cause the 2 cases are possibles.
@JonesDking:
You quoted Mangareader which largely follows Cnets Translation so how was I wrong?
I didn't know that, sorry. But, you were wrong in thinking i was quoting cnet, as i followed MR, but, anyway, that is not important.
And now, i agree haki is really hard to awaken, but, you can awaken it if you train, and Ussop trained 2 years in his life so he'll probably have CoA in the end.
When, the others didn't train that much, we don't know what will happen.