I think it'd be sweet if he eventually got a dimension ripping sword like the Skull Knight.
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I don't think Caska getting cured would be cheap. It was a monstrous event sure but Guts went through hell and back to regain his saniy, gather his comrades, protect Caska and get to Elfhelm. Not to mention as you said, curing her would have its own huge drawbacks. With that said, Caska's too good a character to remain in lala land for the rest of her life. She's a tough woman, it's in her to overcome what happened and grow from it.
Pretty much this. I can see where people are coming from with healing Caska feeling like it cheapens the terrible nature of the Eclipse, but come on she's been (for lack of a better word) mentally retarded for a decade, more even, she should be allowed to recover just like Guts. And I also miss her, she was a good character.
@Vanessa Oh God! If Caska rejected Guts that would be brutal! Yeah, I would really like to see if that would happen. I think Guts might be my favorite character in all of manga (that I have read, he's on par with Luffy) I mean the guy just has so much shit to deal with in life. But deal with it he does, because he's not going to just lay down and die like an animal. He is going to protect Caska and kill that white haired bastard-traitor or die trying. He is just unbelievably awesome.
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Am I the only one on the planet who thinks it's kind of bullshit that Casca is like that in the first place?
Guts suffers way worse throughout his entire life, including getting raped as a little kid, and all he gets is a thing about getting touched and a bit of bloodlust against apostles. Casca gets raped once (by Griffith, admittedly) and she completely loses her mind and regresses to less intelligent than a toddler? I'm going to get flamed but I'm going to say it's sexist.
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I wouldn't say that it's sexist considering that yes Guts' rape was pretty brutal, but well, Griffith was a demon. Not just a standard demon at that but a friggin God Hand. Having someone like that violate anyone would drive them mad.
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Am I the only one on the planet who thinks it's kind of bullshit that Casca is like that in the first place?
Guts suffers way worse throughout his entire life, including getting raped as a little kid, and all he gets is a thing about getting touched and a bit of bloodlust against apostles. Casca gets raped once (by Griffith, admittedly) and she completely loses her mind and regresses to less intelligent than a toddler? I'm going to get flamed but I'm going to say it's sexist.
This is a stupid post. It's like trying to say no one can ever react in a negative manner towards anything just because someone out there has had it worse. Not everyone deals with things the same way, and in spite of the type of act you made comparisons with I think it's funny that all you focus on is one of the victims was a girl. Hell, the fact that it's been shown to happen to both sexes already makes your labeling idiotic, and that's without taking into account the tons of differences in circumstance between them which show just why things ended up the way they did.
Not sexist at all. Try again.
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This is a stupid post. It's like trying to say no one can ever react in a negative manner towards anything just because someone out there has had it worse. Not everyone deals with things the same way, and in spite of the type of act you made comparisons with I think it's funny that all you focus on is one of the victims was a girl. Hell, the fact that it's been shown to happen to both sexes already makes your labeling idiotic, and that's without taking into account the tons of differences in circumstance between them which show just why things ended up the way they did.
Not sexist at all. Try again.
Okay, maybe not sexist. I still think it's kind of bullshit though. I get that different people react to trauma in different ways, but was Casca really so weak-willed that getting raped by Femto/Griffith made her regress COMPLETELY? To me that feels really cheap.
I think it matters that Guts has gone through way more. He suffered the Eclipse too–everyone he loves/cares for goes bye bye in a horrible act of supreme treachery--and now he has to constantly fend off evil spirits who want to drag him to hell and the few who people who remain whom he loves/cares for. He's had to face off against Griffith again once or twice. Before then there was his life as the child of a "father" who hated him and tried to kill him. Iirc Casca was to be raped as a child too, but she was spared, right?
It's the one thing in the series I really don't like. Well besides Puck.
I guess you could say that Casca is really smarter because she subconsciously disengaged from all the things Guts has to go through now in order to preserve her own happiness, her own will to live. But in exchange she lost everything that made her her, unlike Guts. What an awful price to pay.
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! I just thought that maybe Femto's demon sperm rotted her mind or something, and that's the real explanation.
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There are people who don't like Puck? wut!
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I hate the fact that i can't ever fucking read what puck is mumbling about because his bubbles are too tiny…
I know I'm not missing anything important so i don't worry about it too much.
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I think the common defense of Puck is that he provides much needed levity, but I think he could be replaced by an occasional hope spot, which I think Berserk needs way more of. How exactly is Guts supposed to defeat all the god-tier forces of evil?
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Okay, maybe not sexist. I still think it's kind of bullshit though. I get that different people react to trauma in different ways, but was Casca really so weak-willed that getting raped by Femto/Griffith made her regress COMPLETELY? To me that feels really cheap.
Just regular rape can scar and mess people up for life, you shouldn't just toss it aside so lightly. But on top of that…
Don't forget Guts leaving, the years of leading the Hawks on her own through very unpleasant circumstances, seeing Griffith as a cripple, and then watching as all her friends die horribly one by one, Judeu's death especially, and THEN followed by demonic rape and demon birth, from the man she once loved and idolized!
I know I'd be traumatized.
And to emphasize. DEMONIC RAPE. Not even just regular rape. DEMONIC.
Corkus completely lost it when the Eclipse started, let alone before any of the really bad stuff started.
Lets not forget how before that Griffith creacked threw EVERYTHING away because Guts left the group. He'd practically achieved his goals, was in good standing tomarry the princess, had won his war, was beloved by the people, had eliminated his enemies, and then... Guts says he wants to go for a walk and he completely snaps and throws everything away.
And Guts himself uhm... kinda has a monstrous demon side beast thing born from all his horrible suffering that manifests itself through his armor and attacks all that he loves and can only be held back b a witch, so... he has abnormal inhuman stamina to begin with, so its really not fair omparing him to anyone else.
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@RobbyBevard:
Just regular rape can scar and mess people up for life, you shouldn't just toss it aside so lightly. But on top of that…
Don't forget Guts leaving, the years of leading the Hawks on her own through very unpleasant circumstances, seeing Griffith as a cripple, and then watching as all her friends die horribly one by one, Judeu's death especially, and THEN followed by demonic rape and demon birth!
I know I'd be traumatized.
Traumatized enough to become a mental baby? Keep in mind Casca wasn't exactly a shrinking violet and could more than hold her own in battle. She'd witnessed more ravages of war than we could dream of, and kept her sanity without difficulty. She was away above us in terms of mental resiliency, I'd say.
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I honestly think that her being traumatized like that is way more than a psychological thing.
There is the brand and the demonic birthing thing. What happened to her is more of a supernatural thing which has supernatural consequences. She shouldn't even be alive for what it's worth.
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I honestly think that her being traumatized like that is way more than a psychological thing.
There is the brand and the demonic birthing thing. What happened to her is more of a supernatural thing which has supernatural consequences. She shouldn't even be alive for what it's worth.
Indeed, this is the explanation that makes more sense, but I still chafe at her character essentially being reduced to nothing. I think it sucks that her only purpose now is to give Guts a motivation to go someplace and ground him (she's a burdensom child that needs to be looked after 24/7); otherwise she might as well be dead character-wise.
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Okay, maybe not sexist. I still think it's kind of bullshit though. I get that different people react to trauma in different ways, but was Casca really so weak-willed that getting raped by Femto/Griffith made her regress COMPLETELY? To me that feels really cheap.
I think it matters that Guts has gone through way more. He suffered the Eclipse too–everyone he loves/cares for goes bye bye in a horrible act of supreme treachery--and now he has to constantly fend off evil spirits who want to drag him to hell and the few who people who remain whom he loves/cares for. He's had to face off against Griffith again once or twice. Before then there was his life as the child of a "father" who hated him and tried to kill him. Iirc Casca was to be raped as a child too, but she was spared, right?
It's the one thing in the series I really don't like. Well besides Puck.
I guess you could say that Casca is really smarter because she subconsciously disengaged from all the things Guts has to go through now in order to preserve her own happiness, her own will to live. But in exchange she lost everything that made her her, unlike Guts. What an awful price to pay.
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! I just thought that maybe Femto's demon sperm rotted her mind or something, and that's the real explanation.
Are we having a contest to out-dumb Terek on making the worst possible Berserk related posts? Because I'm game.
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God forbid somebody post his opinion. I'm not saying the series is horrible or anything; far from it, apart from a few flaws it's a masterpiece par excellence. I'm just saying there's something in it that doesn't rub me the right way. Is that some great sin? Or is it really so clear and obvious that Casca should be a mental infant?
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@RobbyBevard:
And to emphasize. DEMONIC RAPE. Not even just regular rape. DEMONIC.
Corkus completely lost it when the Eclipse started, let alone before any of the really bad stuff started.
Lets not forget how before that Griffith creacked threw EVERYTHING away because Guts left the group. He'd practically achieved his goals, was in good standing tomarry the princess, had won his war, was beloved by the people, had eliminated his enemies, and then… Guts says he wants to go for a walk and he completely snaps and throws everything away.
And Guts himself uhm... kinda has a monstrous demon side beast thing born from all his horrible suffering that manifests itself through his armor and attacks all that he loves and can only be held back b a witch, so... he has abnormal inhuman stamina to begin with, so its really not fair omparing him to anyone else.
I concede that the fact it was demon!Griffith that raped her makes it exponentially more traumatizing, and I guess I forgot about the Hellhound, but I still can't help but feel a little raw-assed about Casca regressing so completely. I dunno. It just doesn't sit right with me. In any case I'll drop it.
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I concede that the fact it was demon!Griffith that raped her makes it exponentially more traumatizing, and I guess I forgot about the Hellhound, but I still can't help but feel a little raw-assed about Casca regressing so completely. I dunno. It just doesn't sit right with me. In any case I'll drop it.
I also pointed out that Griffith completely broke… just because Guts walked away.
God forbid somebody post his opinion.
When you say something that boils down to"LOL, rape isn't THAT bad!", and then also start throwing out "Yeah, totally sexist!" you'd better have a damn good stance to back it up.
And you kind of don't.
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Okay, maybe not sexist. I still think it's kind of bullshit though. I get that different people react to trauma in different ways, but was Casca really so weak-willed that getting raped by Femto/Griffith made her regress COMPLETELY? To me that feels really cheap.
I think it matters that Guts has gone through way more. He suffered the Eclipse too–everyone he loves/cares for goes bye bye in a horrible act of supreme treachery--and now he has to constantly fend off evil spirits who want to drag him to hell and the few who people who remain whom he loves/cares for. He's had to face off against Griffith again once or twice. Before then there was his life as the child of a "father" who hated him and tried to kill him. Iirc Casca was to be raped as a child too, but she was spared, right?
It's the one thing in the series I really don't like. Well besides Puck.
I guess you could say that Casca is really smarter because she subconsciously disengaged from all the things Guts has to go through now in order to preserve her own happiness, her own will to live. But in exchange she lost everything that made her her, unlike Guts. What an awful price to pay.
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! I just thought that maybe Femto's demon sperm rotted her mind or something, and that's the real explanation.
you completely don't understand the whole eclipse.
was caska getting rapped the wrost thing? hell no.
she grew up with this whole band of people. they are basically her family. then all of a sudden the person she admired the most, and practically loved betrayed tehm all and she got to see all her family get massacered, eaten, blow up, ect you name it. the most horrid deaths one can imagine. And this was due to Griffith doing this to them.
She would most likely be the same even if she were not rapped by griffith
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Have the chapter 320 spoiler pics been posted yet?
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I concede. I am defeated.
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I hope they kill that pirate, I have grown tired of him. Which knowing this series, my wish will likely be granted.
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@RobbyBevard:
And Guts himself uhm… kinda has a monstrous demon side beast thing born from all his horrible suffering that manifests itself through his armor and attacks all that he loves and can only be held back b a witch, so... he has abnormal inhuman stamina to begin with, so its really not fair omparing him to anyone else.
For me this is THE point of the whole argument. If it weren't for Schierke he'd be about as mad as Casca by now.
Edit: I googled Schierkes name for a spellcheck just now and I found out that Schierke is the name of a village in Harz mountain range, on the Broken, and it's were the anual Walpurgis night is being held. Walpurgis night already appears as a meeting of witches in the Faust. I did not know that. The place she got her name from is only half an hour drive from here. :happy: Also it makes all Schilke translations wrong.
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For me this is THE point of the whole argument. If it weren't for Schierke he'd be about as mad as Casca by now.
Edit: I googled Schierkes name for a spellcheck just now and I found out that Schierke is the name of a village in Harz mountain range, on the Broken, and it's were the anual Walpurgis night is being held. Walpurgis night already appears as a meeting of witches in the Faust. I did not know that. The place she got her name from is only half an hour drive from here. :happy: Also it makes all Schilke translations wrong.
That's really cool. I wonder how many other such allusions to the occult have appeared in characters' names throughout the series.
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Also haven't all the main character's names been written in English, so the different translations for names argument should be over right?
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Also haven't all the main character's names been written in English, so the different translations for names argument should be over right?
You'd think that, but no. Japanese authors might throw out an official spelling that uses English letters, but that doesn't mean they have a good enough grasp of English to actually get it right, since there's weird rules with some syllables and letters and silent E's and the like. Engrish happens all the time, especially with L's, R's, silent letters and puns.
I have an official Dragonball book that list names as "Gokou" and "Begeta" for instance.
An in-manga English spelling gives insight into the author's intent at least, and is generally the easiest and most accepted sign to point to, but it isn't always right.
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You'd think that, but no. Japanese authors might throw out an official spelling that uses English letters, but that doesn't mean they have a good enough grasp of English to actually get it right, since there's weird rules with some syllables and letters and silent E's and the like. Engrish happens all the time, especially with L's, R's, silent letters and puns.
I have an official Dragonball book that list names as "Gokou" and "Begeta" for instance.
An in-manga English spelling gives insight into the author's intent at least, and is generally the easiest and most accepted sign to point to, but it isn't always right.
I also remember an official English spelling in Hellsing called the main character Arucard instead of Alucard where as its obvious intended to be Alucard, so that it would be Dracula backwards.
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So is the new chapter out, or has it only been one week. I need my Berserk fix. I'm actually very fortunate that I just got up to date with Berserk when it just stops being on hiatus.
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Berserk is a great manga, but I think its too slow paced right now, although I do understand Miura putting hard work and being serious in even small details, with his current release schedule… I am not sure he will be able to finish Berserk in few years unless he ends berserk with sword master yamato style...
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new chapter makes me happy, so happy.
siigh so awesome… even though the ships should have been digested long ago.
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Excellent chapter, waiting for new Berserk chapters is not a waste of time. This month's chapter is awesome.
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http://www.mangareader.net/berserk/320
I thought it was a fantastic chapter, of course go for the heart ;)
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I can't wait for Guts and his party to reach another island. All those strange and dangerous new creatures walking and about waiting to be slaughtered. I hope I see robot unicorns…:ninja:
BLOOD BATH...Bleed that monster till it can't bleed no more.
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Pretty good chapter, I'm just sad that it ended so quickly, really Miura? two chapters that were only like 15 pages in a row? Come on. But yeah Guts is badass as always.
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Question: Isn't that berserker armor supposed to be ripping into him, even if he's lucid?
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The berserker armor only does that when the users bones are broken. This is to support the user so that he can continue moving/fighting.
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About that discussion about romanization,
usually the way it works is if an official spelling is given and it makes sense, people will use it. And it becomes "official". But sometimes it's pretty clear the author just didn't get some subtlety about how consonant sounds they don't have in Japanese work. Like for example, in the beginnings of the Tegami Bachi volumes, Gauche's name is written as "Goos". But then in Bleach Kubo Taito writes names like "Grimmjow Jaggerjaques" and "Nnoitra" which are sort of "fancy spellings" of names but they don't have any weird errors in them.
Miura does the same thing. All his romanizations "make sense" and don't severely warp the pronunciation or anything, including like silent letters and things like that.As for the chapter, very interesting. Very good art with all the pirate stuff and monster things. I think this whole sea god thing will only be a part of the big picture, the "intro to the Fantasia arc". And Guts will probably kill it and it will just be the first step in some other long story that'll probably continue at Elf Island. Beyond the whole "control of the Berserker armor" thing. So maybe some major plot change will occur when he gets to the Sea God's heart, or else it'll die and they leave.
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I wonder if the actual change between the merge of fantasy and reality realms could affect the powers of the fairies in Gut's party as well as the healing capabilities of the Elf King, wizards, and witches.
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Although I am disappointed that it seems that we might have to wait longer for the Elf Island Arc, I guess the upcoming battle with the Sea God might be entertaining. But seeing this Sea God and other Creatures form Fantasy… I wonder if we will be able to see a being equal to God Hands? Since the God Hands are agent of something that claims to be God or Devil... I thought God Hands were top tiers in Berserk Universe. But I think it is possible there are beings that are equal to the Gods that Griffith saw during his transformation.
With Gut's current strength, it will be impossible for him to defeat Griffith, unless Griffith let himself to be killed.
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This chapter was pretty interesting. I'm enjoying this fight so far; I can't wait to see where they go with the inside of the monster's stomach. And seeing the Sea Horse holding off the outside attacks is awesome. Can't wait for the next chapter
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Guts: Dentist for monsters.
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[qimg]http://dailydoseoflies.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/untitled_51.png[/qimg]the colored pic of the girl there, is that the new volume cover? or some special stickers or whathaves?
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I was tired of waiting for a translation so I tediously translated it myself. You're in for a pretty funny exchange between the pirate and Isidro (it involves the glamor that is the "tentacle life")
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Being a tentacle sucks. No real need to explain why Mirua, we hate them anyway…
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Go Isidorooooooo!!!!!!
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I liked this chapter, it's nice to see Isidrio, Guts and Serpico kick some ass again. The only thing that annoyed me is that the series is on hiatus again. Then again I saw that one coming. At least it's not like Hunter x Hunter which hasn't updated in a freaking year. Can't wait until June.
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Whoa, that's probably the first time I ever missed a Berserk chapter and read two new ones in a row.
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@Monkey:
Whoa, that's probably the first time I ever missed a Berserk chapter and read two new ones in a row.
Hey MK can you start posting in the other manga/anime section of the forums. It's ever so much fun to see you ripping on the less intelligent (we just need Juju back, as dumb as that kid was, he made for some fun discussions).
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@Kareem:
I liked this chapter, it's nice to see Isidrio, Guts and Serpico kick some ass again. The only thing that annoyed me is that the series is on hiatus again. Then again I saw that one coming. At least it's not like Hunter x Hunter which hasn't updated in a freaking year. Can't wait until June.
For a second there, I was actually worried it was going into another hiatus. Lol
Just a clarification, the series is not on hiatus. It is just that the chapters are released in a different scheduling.