Just so I dont come of as a 4kids Lover (That Didnt sound right LOL)
One Piece On Nicktoons Yay Or Nay
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What say me?Yay! One day perhaps.
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Did we honestly need another thread like this simply for another network?
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yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
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I'd prefer it on Nicktoons over 4kids, but honestly we take what we can get here. If One Piece gets on American TV again, that'll be great.
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Insert what I said in the Toonzai thread here
Yeah. A bit of the same of what I said there. Being on TV is better then not being on TV at all.
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These get really upsetting when you see "One Piece on Nicktoons YAY" and the you find out there's a "or nay" with it the title.
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Yay I guess… But I'd want the entire series, 75% uncensored. I don't want another "Yeh man i already saw wan piss on cartoon network, that stuffs child's play." I'd rather it air right at the end of Cartoon Network and right at the beginning of Adult Swim, I think that's the perfect spot for it.
Basically my verdict is this: as long as there's not horrible censorship. Can I still recognize One Piece and not have it be a defiled corpse via 4kids? They're going to have to censor quite-a-freaking-bit of stuff, though, if they get later into the series (if it's on NickToons).
My favorite idea, it's probably been said already, is for the anime in Japan to get to where the timeskip is happening, have Funimation dub just a few of those (3-10) then stop and go back to dubbing where they are (Skypeia-ish currently), and then air those dubbed timeskip ones on Adult Swim for a tiny bit, with a hefty amount of advertising. Then go back to the beginning of the series and start from there. It would hopefully get people curious about One Piece and show them that there's a lot of awesome and crazy to be had further into the series.
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Did we honestly need another thread like this simply for another network?
This.
And, obviously Yes. Nicktoons is infintely better than Toonzai.
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I'd rather it air right at the end of Cartoon Network and right at the beginning of Adult Swim, I think that's the perfect spot for it.
I'd like that too but sadly Cartoon Network got rid of all it's anime for some reason. I personally would love to see One Piece on Nicktoons, though. Nicktoons has edited DragonBall Z Kai, but from what I can recall it was just the language, which they would do for One Piece too, and they also edited out dealths that were to gruesome for kids, which wouldn't be a problem since people very rarely die in One Piece. The only other thing I'm sure they would do as well is shorten the opening and ending themes.
Other than that I'm sure if One Piece were on Nicktoons it would mabye have 90% of it edited for various reasons. YAY!
Edit: One more thing I've seen Nicktoons do with Kai is change the color of blood to look more like mud or something else, which again I'm sure they'd do with One Piece.
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These get really upsetting when you see "One Piece on Nicktoons YAY" and the you find out there's a "or nay" with it the title.
Yeah I gotta chime in with this sentiment as well. Way to get my hopes up >_>
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It's not letting me vote for some reason, is it cuz im new or something?
Either way i say yea
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Yay I guess… But I'd want the entire series, 75% uncensored. I don't want another "Yeh man i already saw wan piss on cartoon network, that stuffs child's play." I'd rather it air right at the end of Cartoon Network and right at the beginning of Adult Swim, I think that's the perfect spot for it.
I'd rather it air in the new hour that Cartoon Network basically gave adult swim maybe only a month or so back. I think they're using it to air King of the Hill right now.
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so now we have three threads for this?
if its on TV its fine, it doesn't matter where it is.
Surely theres no discussion here, everyone was fine with this from the start.
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Who the hell voted nay??????
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There doesn't need to be more threads for "One Piece" on TV, we've already got several of them, but unless I hear grumbling from the other mods or one of them makes some other decision I'll let this stick around. It would've made more sense to have a "Which Network would like to see One Piece on?" thread but whatever the poll is made we can have discussions within discussions. If I merged the different threads it'd be a mess I think.
Anyway if anyone is interested, go to Nicktoon's Facebook page and let them know you want "One Piece". It's insignificant but it wouldn't hurt:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nicktoons/151243551570892
or even better write a letter to them. I know Nicktoons has an address somewhere.
Also Nickeldeon is having their upfront on March 10. Don't get your hopes up for "One Piece" but it sure would be nice.
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I would love One Piece on Nicktoons but I feel that editing of guns will always be One Pieces number 1 problem. I think even FUNi had a problem with them during the CN run.
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Farmer's shotgun wasn't edited in Kai's Nicktoons run.
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Yay for me.
Is thread here just to compete with the Toonzai thread? Seems that way.
Excuse me while I quote myself:If you have a Facebook account, go to this discussion topic to recommend One Piece:
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Mother flippin yay. Hell, put in on Disney XD for all I care. Just as long as it doesn't ever return to anything related to 4krapz.
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So. Just looking at the Yay and Nay poll results from this thread and the Toonzai thread, I've gathered this.
Toonzai:
55% of people who voted either Yay or Nay voted "Yay" for toonzai. While 45% of those people voted Nay. That's a pretty big division. Almost half.
Now. For Nicktoons. Keep in mind the poll here is young:
91% of people voting Yay or Nay voted "Yay" for Nicktoons. While only 9% voted Nay. That's a pretty slim margin, and its almost unanimous for Nicktoons.
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@Badass:
So. Just looking at the Yay and Nay poll results from this thread and the Toonzai thread, I've gathered this.
Toonzai:
55% of people who voted either Yay or Nay voted "Yay" for toonzai. While 45% of those people voted Nay. That's a pretty big division. Almost half.
Now. For Nicktoons. Keep in mind the poll here is young:
91% of people voting Yay or Nay voted "Yay" for Nicktoons. While only 9% voted Nay. That's a pretty slim margin, and its almost unanimous for Nicktoons.
Well also remember you have around a quarter of the number of voters on this poll.
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I'm pretty sure most people (including myself) WOULD want it on Nicktoons rather than Toonzai. But the point is, we really don't have a choice in the matter at this point. Having it on TV should be all that matters… and if that so happens to be Toonzai... Then so be it. The franchise would still be better off because it's on tv again.
And umtimantly, where it's on is irrelevant, as long as it succeeds. We have the uncut DVDs.
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I say YAY, like some already said I'd just want it on TV and I have that channel unlike that Funimation channel :getlost:
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Eh considering its either this, CN (unlikely thanks to the new management hating anime), or Disney XD (which I really wouldn't mind now. Something like this would fit right at home with them. Considering their treatment of Naruto Shippuden.) Guess I'll go with yay.
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Eh considering its either this, CN (unlikely thanks to the new management hating anime), or Disney XD (which I really wouldn't mind now. Something like this would fit right at home with them. Considering their treatment of Naruto Shippuden.) Guess I'll go with yay.
Dont forget The Hub!
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I'm pretty sure most people (including myself) WOULD want it on Nicktoons rather than Toonzai. But the point is, we really don't have a choice in the matter at this point. Having it on TV should be all that matters… and if that so happens to be Toonzai... Then so be it. The franchise would still be better off because it's on tv again.
And umtimantly, where it's on is irrelevant, as long as it succeeds. We have the uncut DVDs.
I really do love how some people seem to think that we only wanted it on Toonzai.
The point of the whole Toonzai thread was pretty much that anything would be better than nothing. If Toonzai were to offer and no one else did then it would still be fine.
Exposure is key, where it is is totally redundant. Why even bother making this thread a poll when the outcome was so damn obvious? Of course it would have been better on Nicktoons but were not really at the point to pick and choose. We should just take what we can get and reap the benefits of that.
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I did it cuz I was curious to see who would object. But I promise this is the last Thread like this.
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Nicktoons would make the better version that I'll never see, while Toonzai will make a whole bunch of funny edits that'll be posted like crazy on Youtube. Both would achieve pretty much the same.
Not a hard choice for me.
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Nicktoons would make the better version that I'll never see, while Toonzai will make a whole bunch of funny edits that'll be posted like crazy on Youtube. Both would achieve pretty much the same.
Not a hard choice for me.
That's the point though. There is no "choice". We should just take what we can get. This thread needs to get rid of the whole idea that we WILL even have a choice.
Were not in a position to choose. If it did go to Toonzai then it still wouldn't be as bad as before so no harm done. So what if it gets some retarded edits that people could laugh about on youtube. Atleast it would be on TV, in the public eye with a decent dub and soundtrack.
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It would certainly be nice to get One Piece back on TV, wherever it was. From what I've heard, it sounds like Nicktoons edits are a lot better than those on Toonzai, so that would also be a plus.
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And LOTS AND LOTS of promotion. Dont forget that.
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Assuming they don't censor it into oblivion, it could have a real shot at succeeding there.
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So far their edits have been reasonable.
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That's the point though. There is no "choice". We should just take what we can get. This thread needs to get rid of the whole idea that we WILL even have a choice.
My gosh, calm down. Nobody here actually thinks it is their choice. When MarcelloF said "choice" they meant which they'd rather see it on.
Anyway, I'd much rather have it on Nicktoons. I say that even though I don't even get the channel. I'd much rather it go back on CN, though, even though I know that's not happening.
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My gosh, calm down. Nobody here actually thinks it is their choice. When MarcelloF said "choice" they meant which they'd rather see it on.
Anyway, I'd much rather have it on Nicktoons. I say that even though I don't even get the channel. I'd much rather it go back on CN, though, even though I know that's not happening.
I know but the illusion that we can just pick and choose is still in the air. We cant. Of course it would be better on Nick but if Toonzai is all we can get then atleast it would never be as bad as it was.
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How did the "Toonzai" thing come about, anyway?
It wasn't even a rumor that One Piece was gonna be on toonzai. Someone just came in and said "HEy GUYZ WWHAT BOUT IF OP WAS ON TOONZAI????". Then, all the arguments, discussions, and "We don't have a choice!!!!"s came in.
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@Badass:
This.
I don't mind, it is good seeing the Funimation forum being used for something besides the funi dvd thread.
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I don't even see why Toonzai is even an option, because that 4Kids higher up said they would never be interested in One Piece if they had actually screened it.
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FINALLY!
Thread over!
….I was wondering why no one had said that.
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@Badass:
How did the "Toonzai" thing come about, anyway?
It wasn't even a rumor that One Piece was gonna be on toonzai. Someone just came in and said "HEy GUYZ WWHAT BOUT IF OP WAS ON TOONZAI????". Then, all the arguments, discussions, and "We don't have a choice!!!!"s came in.
It came about when people listed different places for One Piece to go if it was to come back on TV. I believe someone said something along the lines of "No matter what, it shouldn't go back to a 4Kids owned block. 4Kids will murder it"… rather ignorantly, I may add.
Even though, you know, it's better off no matter WHAT channel it goes on. As long as it finds one.
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No, I just made on the spur of the moment when I saw Toonzai's ratings were good.
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Yay. And I believe it's a possiblity since Nick has two of Toei's properties already (they got Power Rangers after Saban's buy-back after Toei's fallout with Disney). If Power Rangers Samurai and Dragon Ball Z Kai are successful enough, who knows what could happen? Heck, they could even get Digimon (which actually has a higher possibility than One Piece).
And if they get One Piece, that will mark their third former 4Kids property… heh.
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I think one piece would do reeeeeeeeealy good on nick. It already has dragon ball z kai and they have the same fan base. Plus it’s been ages since one piece was on TV, meaning there is a new generation of kids that haven’t been poisoned by 4kids. As long as they don’t go crazy with the censoring, I think it would become super popular!
So… that’s a yay
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I wouldn't say ages, I think the last episode One Piece aired in what? 2008 or 2009. That's only a 3 or 4 year gap. And When ever I bring it up in conversation at school people still recognize it. Few even say they watched til they changed their voices.
I'm not saying that it could or wouldn't do well, and I would like it on Nicktoons; I'm just saying its hasn't been forgotten.
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The last episode aired sometime around March 2008, on Cartoon Network in the United States. Australia was awesome and kept it going, uncut, until the episode before G8.
At this point a TV airing isn't that appealing unless Funimation gets Season 4. Even after that, that's a good 200 episodes that Funimation would have to go back and censor, and re-record lines for.
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Yeah, they'd really have to go back and re-do lines for the east blue saga. So much cussing in it.
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Its not that bad. They'd just have to go and redo only those specific lines!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nicktoons/151243551570892
Here's their facebook page!
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http://www.facebook.com/hubtvnetwork
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Its not that bad. They'd just have to go and redo only those specific lines!
I wish that was all it took! They would also have to go in and digitally remove Sanji's cigarette frame-by-frame. And they'd have to censor a lot of the blood, if not all of it.
Take a look at the English Cartoon Network airings of Jaya/Skypiea and compare it to the uncut version. If voicework was the only thing, I'm sure it would be a lot easier to sell. But it's not.