Oda's INSPIRATION for One Piece
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Just in one page, many constructive and argued messages.
When you say something bafflingly dumb, I can't debate it until you vomit out more of it. Thus one leads with an inflammatory prompt to coax the bullshit from the beast, whereupon it may be truly shoveled.
I honestly wish the dingus who compared Kizaru to the Beatles would respond because seriously, what the fuck was he talking about.
I've read your posts on other threads, just hate and bashing. You look like a very angry little boy. You start quoting every sentence, being picky on words, next grammar, trolling disease.
None of this, even in your wildly inaccurate Frank Grimes meltdown description form, falls under trolling.
You seriously have no clue what trolling is. Go read a book on it or something, christ.
Nausicaa's heroine is named Nausicaa,
I'd fake you out and deny this to see what you'd do, but wikipedia has ruined this sort of thing…
as you're an accredited script writer, you know about not being repetitive when writing.
….Huh?
Go back to your script, i wait for your Cosby Show.
If you'd been properly scrambling desperatly through my post history you would have learned I'm an accredited screenwriter who doesn't want to screenwriter but wants to become a history/anthropology scholar. Can't you get anything right?
In Nausicaa, Nausicaa (you see? not very good writing)
OH, that's what you meant.
And again you're wrong. I'm not sure what idiom of "dont be repetitive" you're referring to but I'm pretty fucking sure naming a work after the lead character isn't a crime. Just a thought.
rushes to Pejite to ask the army not to attack Wind Village.
Pejite isn't the enemy of the valley of Wind lol, they're a destroyed city-state by the time we catch up. The Torumekians are the ones that are going around destroying shit with an army.
Nausicaa fucking goes berserk and attacks them after they kill her dad, and Yupa stops HER. The Torumekians are basically just waltzing through messing up shit, but not trying to start any wars at all. They want to burn the forests down.
Nausicaa stops some guys after Yupa stopped her in a really brief scene that isn't very memorable and isn't even in the manga.
In One Piece, Vivi rushes to Arabasta to warn the Rebel army not to attack her kingdom.
No, she rushes to the Rebel Army to inform them they're being manipulated by Crocodile into fighting the Royal Army who by that point is also essentially being manipulated by Crocodile.
This is a retarded comparison you're making.
there is a shot that looks almost like the The Super Duck Squad with the camera flying over the desert high speed.
Two people on a fucking glider looks nothing like 7 people riding on giant ducks. Which never had any "high speed camera" either.
Nausicaa and Vivi both have blue dresses.
Could you pick a more inane thing to compare? loll.
Pejite and Arabasta are 2 cities build with oriental style buildings that suffers that are being destroyed by natural causes.
What the fuck are you talking about.
Pejite is in complete ruins when we see it.
And NOTHING in any form of Nausicaa is remotely based of Arabian architecture (lol at using a bullshit word like "oriental" with an anthropology devotee) which is where Alabasta comes from.Anime Pejite looks more like Timbuktu or some shit.
And in the manga it's an industrial city.Even the big stairs when Nausicaa enters Pejite reminded me the big stairs at the entry of Arabasta.
You mean the normal set of stairs they run up in the middle of the city after casually strolling through the streets for awhile?
I didn't even know what you were referring to to begin with and had to go check, you're picking such dumb random crap to fixate on. Like Oda would care about that part.One piece is not so big as Nausicaa's movie in terms of influence, you may not agree with me, if you argue i can accept it. I asked you why you went mad, you answer was "because you're stupid".
My answer was you're cluelessly mucking around with sloppy comparisons with an adaption of the most dear to my heart fiction I've ever experienced.
Last point, what makes a good movie is the fact you can have different readings of it.
These aren't fucking readings.
A reading would be the way a movies themes came off to you, or what themes, not dumb bullshit you happened to notice like random staircases and blue outfits.You can now use fancy English words to make fun of me, I'll answer you in my own language
So that I won't understand when I'm being insulted?
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Can someone remind me when Vivi wore a blue outfit anyway?
She had that Mc Escher boobs thing, then a zebra cake jacket, then a parka, then she had a cloak on over a belly dancer outfit, then a tan cloak for the battle, then she was in her princess gear which we never saw in color anyway.
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I have not read Nausicaa, last time I saw the scans were prety miniscule.
Should I go for it you guys think ?
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@No:
I have not read Nausicaa, last time I saw the scans were prety miniscule.
Should I go for it you guys think ?
Absolutely. I'm in the middle of it, and it's fantastic. The setting is awesome, the drawing is overall beatiful, the characters are good and it's really epic.
And all of this coming from someone who's not even halfway through it.
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@No:
I have not read Nausicaa, last time I saw the scans were prety miniscule.
Should I go for it you guys think ?
Considering you like Mashima's Rave, the obvious conclusion that you will meet after reading Miyazaki's Nausicaa might be too horrifying for you to grasp and retain sanity.
Choose wisely.
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Perhaps this has already been commented, but I will say it anyway. Princess Shirahoshi is Rapunzel + The little mermaid.
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An Umibozu…
It reminded me of the giant shadows that appeared when the Straw Hats were trying to save Luffy, Zoro and Sanji from the giant...turtle thing....!
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Perhaps this has already been commented, but I will say it anyway. Princess Shirahoshi is Rapunzel + The little mermaid.
It has been said at least twice.
An Umibozu…
It reminded me of the giant shadows that appeared when the Straw Hats were trying to save Luffy, Zoro and Sanji from the giant...turtle thing....It's possible, except that whenever Oda drew his inspiration from a sailor's legend, he mentionned it clearly in the story. So I believe a character would have made a comment about this Umibozu when they saw those shadows if Oda was really drawing his inspiration from this myth.
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Nausicaa's heroine is named Nausicaa, as you're an accredited script writer, you know about not being repetitive when writing. Go back to your script, i wait for your Cosby Show.
In Nausicaa, Nausicaa (you see? not very good writing)
Well, I am pretty sure I have never seen anyone use "the little ninja" as a reference to Naruto (the character) after mentioning Naruto (the series) to avoid repetition in an informal post in a manga/anime forum. Objectively you chose an uncommon and unclear way which easily caused confusion and misunderstanding at the very least.
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There's three different princesses in Nausicaa, Nausicaa herself, that girl who dies from the airship crash, and the main antagonist Kushana (whose character is retardedly dumbed down in the movie but that's another story).
So he has absolutely NO defense for using that.
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@Cyan:
Son of a bitch that was good.
Yes, it was.
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Ghandi was not a politician and the guys without hair have not chinese dress but JAPANESE dress and he stretch a KATANA (japanese sword) in his hand.
The last guy seems Hebrew.most chinese and japanese dress are all the same, if you mean acient style~
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I figure the movie of Nausicaa is different from the manga, because I felt that Nausicaa in the movie was kind of sue-ish.
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Don't forget that both princesses wore blue dresses! The similarity is uncanny.
The quoted post is full of win :wassat:
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i've seen alot of people mention Van Auger looks like Adolphus from the "Adventures of Baron Munchausen" but, it also appears Gol Roger's attire and mustache is somewhat inspired by the baron.
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6400000/Gold-D-Roger-one-piece-6478459-1024-768.jpghttp://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/spacemonkey_fg/More%20Random%20Pics/AdventuresofBaronMunchausen-Stil-5.jpg
Kizaru also appears to share The Barons ability to ride canon balls.http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090919034819/onepiece/images/1/15/Kizaru_arrival.gif
http://www.zonalibre.org/blog/diversovariable/archives/baron-munchausen.jpg
The trailer just looks like a live-action one piece too me, lol.
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Pretty obvious if you read chapter 597.
g-zD-RohzNY
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@Reyiaria:
I figure the movie of Nausicaa is different from the manga, because I felt that Nausicaa in the movie was kind of sue-ish.
It's INCREDIBLY different, the movie is a shriveled warped version of the first fourth of the manga with a few random elements from later forced in like the God Warrior.
it also appears Gol Roger's attire and mustache is somewhat inspired by the baron.
Those clothes and facial hairs are all really typical late 1700's/early 1800's fashion. Around Napoleon's time.
I'm tired of people attributing the invention of historical things to works of fiction, goddamn it.
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@JERK:
It's INCREDIBLY different, the movie is a shriveled warped version of the first fourth of the manga with a few random elements from later forced in like the God Warrior.
I figure that was the case. I'll have to check out the manga later on then.
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@JERK:
It's INCREDIBLY different, the movie is a shriveled warped version of the first fourth of the manga with a few random elements from later forced in like the God Warrior.
Ok, since this spoiler is actualy something it's 100% expected to happen since page 70 of the manga, it's ok. But please, don't go any further with the spoilers, I'm still at the 3rd volume. . .
And aside from the Van Augur = Adolphus obvious reference, I think Oda's main inspiration from Munchausen would be the hysterical fantasy world with weird as fuck characters. The look of both Roger and Munchausen is Napoleon-era, like Jerk Disease already said.
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@JERK:
Those clothes and facial hairs are all really typical late 1700's/early 1800's fashion. Around Napoleon's time.
I'm tired of people attributing the invention of historical things to works of fiction, goddamn it.
you have a point, and i know that was the common look in that time period. But, at least to me they both look similar in their execution scenes and somewhat in design. in no way am i saying Roger is Munchausen, i'd say Roger is more like Olivier Levasseur(if that hasn't been brought up in this thread i highly recommended looking that up, very interesting.)
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you have a point, and i know that was the common look in that time period. But, at least to me they both look similar in their execution scenes and somewhat in design. in no way am i saying Roger is Munchausen, i'd say Roger is more like Olivier Levasseur(if that hasn't been brought up in this thread i highly recommended looking that up, very interesting.)
Hmmm! Interesting. Olivier Levasseur got executed for piracy D:
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So, One Piece is just treasure after all… :ninja:
PS: still interesting read, especially with all the "dubious" etc remarks
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Hmmm! Interesting. Olivier Levasseur got executed for piracy D:
That is usualy what they did to em.
Court proceedings were basicly a formality.
Kind of like with horse thieves, only on the sea.
Not sea horse thieves mind you XD
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@No:
Kind of like with horse thieves, only on the sea.
Not sea horse thieves mind you XD
That combined with the reason for editing "terrible joke activated" just cracked me up. Thanks.
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I thought it was prety terrible actualy XD
Thanks.
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Ok this is something I am not sure if has been mentioned before.
I apologise if it has, it is to do with Binks sake so I found a site that does youtube mashups and have used it to put both side by side. It is a seen in the Yellow Submarine where the blue meanies are attacking and the leader is determined to finish the Quartet. No doubt the parallel has been drawn before but I couldn't find it in this thread so thought I would share.
Spoiler has the manga image and the link is to a Youtube site that has both clips playing from the right moment.!
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Doughty better wreck up some shit later :getlost:
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Ok this is something I am not sure if has been mentioned before.
I apologise if it has, it is to do with Binks sake so I found a site that does youtube mashups and have used it to put both side by side. It is a seen in the Yellow Submarine where the blue meanies are attacking and the leader is determined to finish the Quartet. No doubt the parallel has been drawn before but I couldn't find it in this thread so thought I would share.
Spoiler has the manga image and the link is to a Youtube site that has both clips playing from the right moment.! [qimg]http://1.p.s.mfcdn.net/store/manga/106/50-488.0/compressed/one_piece_chapter_488_ophq.17.jpg[/qimg]
That was pretty cool.
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They then perpetrated one of piracy's greatest exploits: the capture of the Portuguese great galleon Nossa Senhora do Cabo (Our Lady of the Cape) or Virgem Do Cabo (The Virgin of the Cape), loaded full of treasures belonging to the Bishop of Goa, also called the Patriarch of the East Indies, and the Viceroy of Portugal, who were both on board returning home to Lisbon. The pirates were able to board the vessel without firing a single broadside, because the Cabo had been damaged in a storm, and to avoid capsizing the crew had dumped all of its 72 cannons overboard, then anchored off Réunion island to undergo repairs. (This incident would later be used by Robert Louis Stevenson in his novel "Treasure Island" where the galleon is referred to as The Viceroy of the Indies in the account given by the character Long John Silver).
After taking a brief read at this I decided to share this excerpt as previous posts mentioned Olivier Levasseur being similiar to Gold Roger by design. You'll notice that Goa is referenced in there a la Goa Kingdom. Interesting, perhaps Oda was influenced by Olivier Levasseur?
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I'm pretty sure Oda was inspired by Levasseur. Roger basicly gave his speech before the execution and Levasseurs message looks like a poneglyph. The question if the Goa kingdom has it's roots in the same story is a different one. Normally I would agree but Goa is still known under this name today, and in relation to it's size as the smallest Indian state, it became fairly well known due to the music style Goa Trance (though I don't think Oda is the Goa Trace type :D) and being center for hippy culture. On German Wikipedia it has an top class featured article without mentioning of Levasseur if that's an indicator. So chances are he got that from the old pirate story but it's not impossible to hear the name Goa elsewhere.
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Not One Piece but, funniest Nausicaa reference ever.
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I think this could be another fragment of the Poneglyph story. The knowledge how to read ancient Egyptian hieroglyph writing was lost in the late 4th century AD. Below is a picture of the Rosetta Stone found in 1799. It was the first discovered multilingual (Hieroglyph, (Egypian) Demotic and Ancient Greek) inscription of the same text. Since Ancient Greek was well known, this stone was the keys to linguists deciphering the first hieroglyphs in a 1400 years. With that ability scholars where then able to read the hieroglyphs that archeologists found in many historic places in Egypt. This stone is why we know so much about the previously lost Egyptian history from the time before the Greek rose to power. Albeit a bit smaller and not as cubical, I think it resembles a Poneglyph. Plus the first Poneglyph we get to see in One Piece is hidden in a dynasty tomb of an Egyptian styled kingdom.