I meant to agree but picked the wrong one :(
The One Piece will NOT be "Friendship/Adventure/Corny Ass Abstract"
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Something like "The treasure is the fun you had on your adventure" stuff, wouldn't make any sense, just by looking at the fact that Luffy already loves adventures and knows what he gained on it. Telling him something he already knows would be silly.
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When I first started to read this thread, I thought One Piece may be blueprints for one of the ancient weapons, but someone already said that.
The beginning had a very obvious message, that treasure is something different for everyone. They continued to state this theory. Here are some examples:
Luffy saying the Strawhat was his treasure to Buggy.
The dog fighting and almost dying to protect the store.
The mayor getting ready to put his life on the line to protect the town.
Sanji stating that the Baratie was Zeff's treasure.
Gaimon stating the animals were his treasure.We have seen that Luffy isn't in a hurry to get to One Piece. He never had to go to Sky Island, but they went.
There are so many instances where Luffy took his time, went out of his way, and went exploring. Luffy never was interested in the way the world works, or starting a war.If you really want to think, why be a pirate? We have seen so many times that the Strawhats aren't violent towards civilians. Why didn't he go to Zoro at the beginning of the series and say, "Wanna go on an adventure? Lets see the Grand Line, and claim the OP!"
I really enjoyed the beginning of the series when it was quite simple. We lost the simplicity right around Water 7.
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oh the thread dont get merged? Whats happening? Isn't this a shitty poll/thread and, already discussed?
You're always angry, calm down girl.
On the matter. 1- I thought of OP being a mcguffin of sorts. . .before Raileigh and Whitebeard's comments. Now it's clear as fuck that there's something there, and this something, is relevant.
Yeah, and I'm not sure I will like its relevance. Considering what Wb said, a war against the World Government seems unavoidable, unless there is another hidden enemy. Luffy would have to go through several changes until I could accept him as a credible rebel leader.
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The reason I don't think it's the Rio Poneglyph is Roger said someone with the will of the D will find it, and Robin is the only one that can read it, so Luffy really wouldn't benifit at all. It would also be unfair to the other pirates if it's something only Robin could use.
I think when the Strawhats get there, there will be a lone sticky note saying:
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@Dr.:
The reason I don't think it's the Rio Poneglyph is Roger said someone with the will of the D will find it
Just Where and when the hell was that said ?
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Yeah, and I'm not sure I will like its relevance. Considering what Wb said, a war against the World Government seems unavoidable, unless there is another hidden enemy. Luffy would have to go through several changes until I could accept him as a credible rebel leader.
That's mainly my gripe too. Luffy has shown multiple times that he doesn't care about this stuff unless someone close to him is stuck in a hairy situation.
Luffy suddenly turning into the leader of a war against the WG seems weird.
But we're 8-9 years short of finding the One Piece, so let's wait and see how these things evolve. -
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I really enjoyed the beginning of the series when it was quite simple. We lost the simplicity right around Water 7.
What do you mean. Ever since Alabasta, the series has slowly revealed big, mysterious things going about in the world other than the Straw Hats' adventures.
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Hell, big mysterious things have been hinted at since Arlong Park.
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Nahh, big, mysterious things have actually been hinted at since the very first chapter. :P
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@Dr.:
The reason I don't think it's the Rio Poneglyph is Roger said someone with the will of the D will find it, and Robin is the only one that can read it, so Luffy really wouldn't benifit at all. It would also be unfair to the other pirates if it's something only Robin could use.
I think when the Strawhats get there, there will be a lone sticky note saying:
"Sorry, Urouge got here first."LOL about the Urouge thing.
As for the other, remember that Roger had noone on his crew who could read and/or translate that writing–-so said Rayleigh. He said they were simple pirates, and that Roger was simply able to "hear the voice of all things" or something along those lines, (I'll look for the page later to link it) and implied that was how he could read the stone. It's still up in the air about whether that is due to haki or the will of D or something else though
Here they are--the pages with that quote:
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2614-6/one-piece/chapter-507.html
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2614-7/one-piece/chapter-507.htmlIirc, though, they never did explain the reason that Roger was able to leave writing in the same language on the stone the Poneglyph was set into, though.
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Nahh, big, mysterious things have actually been hinted at since the very first chapter. :P
Right, Shanks's scar and Haki. Forgot about those.
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I haven't even thought much about what One Piece will be, but it's got to be something to do with the Rio Poneglyph, the Blank Century, and the Ds.
Basically something that will reveal the mysteries of the world.
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I think the SH and RA will get closer (and Dragon and Luffy meeting at some point, of course), which will get the SH involved in the overall war against the WG even more, that it'll culminate with the finding of the Rio Poneglyph and the Void Century History and that'll lead to Luffy starting a world wide war.
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When I first started to read this thread, I thought One Piece may be blueprints for one of the ancient weapons, but someone already said that.
The beginning had a very obvious message, that treasure is something different for everyone. They continued to state this theory. Here are some examples:
Luffy saying the Strawhat was his treasure to Buggy.
The dog fighting and almost dying to protect the store.
The mayor getting ready to put his life on the line to protect the town.
Sanji stating that the Baratie was Zeff's treasure.
Gaimon stating the animals were his treasure.We have seen that Luffy isn't in a hurry to get to One Piece. He never had to go to Sky Island, but they went.
There are so many instances where Luffy took his time, went out of his way, and went exploring. Luffy never was interested in the way the world works, or starting a war.If you really want to think, why be a pirate? We have seen so many times that the Strawhats aren't violent towards civilians. Why didn't he go to Zoro at the beginning of the series and say, "Wanna go on an adventure? Lets see the Grand Line, and claim the OP!"
I really enjoyed the beginning of the series when it was quite simple. We lost the simplicity right around Water 7.
Bullshit for 200 Alex?
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@I:
LOL about the Urouge thing.
As for the other, remember that Roger had noone on his crew who could read and/or translate that writing–-so said Rayleigh. He said they were simple pirates, and that Roger was simply able to "hear the voice of all things" or something along those lines, (I'll look for the page later to link it) and implied that was how he could read the stone. It's still up in the air about whether that is due to haki or the will of D or something else though
Here they are--the pages with that quote:
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2614-6/one-piece/chapter-507.html
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2614-7/one-piece/chapter-507.htmlIirc, though, they never did explain the reason that Roger was able to leave writing in the same language on the stone the Poneglyph was set into, though.
Ah, I forgot about that whole "voice of all things". In that case maybe it is a poneglyph and he wanted someone with his same ability to find it, too bad Luffy doesn't even need it because of Robin.
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I feel that there would definitely be treasure, as in gold and stuff, but there would be some abstract message that Luffy would recognise, and that would be on top of all the other stuff they have.
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@Dr.:
The reason I don't think it's the Rio Poneglyph is Roger said someone with the will of the D will find it, and Robin is the only one that can read it, so Luffy really wouldn't benifit at all. It would also be unfair to the other pirates if it's something only Robin could use.
Well a major theme of One Piece is fate and destiny. How certain people are conected and such. This could be another work of fate, that the D. person who will find the One Piece (Luffy) just so happens to have the only known person who can still decipher the ancient language (Robin) in his crew.
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If there is a note or a massage I think it would be written on the Rio Poneglyph from Roger. And it definitely won't be "hope you enjoyed it" or something like that.
Maybe a question to Luffy, after finding what's on the Poneglyph, something like "So.. what would you do now??".
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Roger: "So, what will you do now?"
Luffy (Looking quite serious): "YOSH! I need some meat!"
Roger: "Sigh"
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Clearly the war Whitebeard was refering to was the murderous rampage the new pirate king will go on after realizing this whole thing was one big sham, and that Roger was the ultimate troll.
But seriously, I think One Piece will include multiple components. I think it may have large amounts of gold, silver, jewels, etc. but I don't think that will be the meat of it, and the real prize will be the plot progression part. I think the Rio Poneglyph will be a part of that, as well as something else we know nothing about yet.
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Roger: "So, what will you do now?"
Luffy (Looking quite serious): "YOSH! I need some meat!"
Roger: "Sigh"
Roger died 24 years ago though.
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http://trg.fireball20xl.com/4koma/comics/4koma009.jpg
I'll just leave this here.
It reminds me of the great treasure found in the Hell Temple of LaMulana(an unforgivingly difficult puzzle based optional dungeon). It was a skimpy string bikini >_>
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I really really really hope its not some mirror crap or some other sentimental thing but the more and more I think about it the harder to come up with what would be a satisfying "One Piece".
What makes the most sense is that its the key to the true history and the poneglyphs, but that would mean that it couldn't be anything too mind blowing because all of Roger's crew knows about the supposed "horrible secret" including Buggy, Shanks, Crocus, and Rayleigh. So, for some reason I doubt that this is what One Piece will be. Also I think we can discount treasure or magic power as well. For whatever reason I feel that if it turns out to be something like the Devil Fruit Tree or all the ancient weapons it would just not feel right.
In the end its probably gonna have to be something non-material like the title of Pirate King or something and as dissapointing as that seems now it might be what ends up happening.
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Gold Roger probably didn't care about the title at all, he's not going to send people scrambling for something he considers worthless.
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Gold Roger probably didn't care about the title at all, he's not going to send people scrambling for something he considers worthless.
Actually, according to Rayleigh, Roger enjoyed being called Pirate King because he "liked pomp and flair" and I was just using an example of something that might be non-material.
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Roger didn't get the pirate king title till after he hit Raftel and it was the very very end of his career that the name started spreading around. OP most assuredly is not that.
Also, we know from Chapter 0 and Whitebeard's brief flashbacks, that Roger did in fact know the location of an ancient weapon… and that the weapon ISN'T One Piece.
(Also, there's no telling if either Buggy or Shanks actually know about whats there, they might not have been there on the final trip.)
The ancient history makes the most sense. Since anyone that could get to Raftel, is probably strong and influential enough to make a difference and possibly challenge the horrible truth. We know that Rayleigh says they were powerless to do anything about what they discovered, which may have been from lack of support, or sheerly Roger being too close to death to make the attempt. Roger might not have made friends the way Luffy does. We also know that Whitebeard states that Roger was waiting for a certain D., and that it ain't Blackbeard.
Personal best theory I've heard is its the lost history about people from the moon coming down 800+ years ago and being slaughtered durign the void century, some of which survived through descendants that became D.
That being the case, finding One Piece is almost assuredly not going to be the end of the series... but instead what launches the final arc to overtake the WG for real.
(Also my personal belief is when the crew is seconds away from finding OP, Oda will then begin a long flashback showing Roger's journey in brief, before the audience gets to see the treasure.)
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One piece was a big lie to motivate people into going on a trip.
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Is this actually discussion worthy? Before he died, Whitebeard said that finding the treasure will turn the world upside down. I think that more or less confirms that it's not an abstract.
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@RobbyBevard:
Roger didn't get the pirate king title till after he hit Raftel and it was the very very end of his career that the name started spreading around. OP most assuredly is not that.
Also, we know from Chapter 0 and Whitebeard's brief flashbacks, that Roger did in fact know the location of an ancient weapon… and that the weapon ISN'T One Piece.
(Also, there's no telling if either Buggy or Shanks actually know about whats there, they might not have been there on the final trip.)
The ancient history makes the most sense. Since anyone that could get to Raftel, is probably strong and influential enough to make a difference and possibly challenge the horrible truth. We know that Rayleigh says they were powerless to do anything about what they discovered, which may have been from lack of support, or sheerly Roger being too close to death to make the attempt. Roger might not have made friends the way Luffy does. We also know that Whitebeard states that Roger was waiting for a certain D., and that it ain't Blackbeard.
Personal best theory I've heard is its the lost history about people from the moon coming down 800+ years ago and being slaughtered durign the void century, some of which survived through descendants that became D.
That being the case, finding One Piece is almost assuredly not going to be the end of the series... but instead what launches the final arc to overtake the WG for real.
(Also my personal belief is when the crew is seconds away from finding OP, Oda will then begin a long flashback showing Roger's journey in brief, before the audience gets to see the treasure.
Mine too, Since i think there is an entrance. and befor that there is a phonyglyph of rogers adventure. Robin will read it. Than we see the story of Gol D. Roger and how he finds out about Void century n such.
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I know Roger died 24 years ago.
That conversation was him from beyond the grave.
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The only categories for One piece I could think of are: Treasure/riches, Knowledge/history, Power; Though it doesn't seem likely one piece is any of those. We already have treasure covered by islands e.g The city of gold, Emerald City. Knowledge/history covered by the Rio stone and power covered by the ancient weapons/ship.
so it must be an endless supply of the worlds greatest (never rotting) meat.
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Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but Shanks and Buggy have never expressed any interest in being the "Pirate King" or finding One Piece, so I think that tells us something right there. Whitebeard as well. And obviously when it comes to the D Roger was was waiting for, Whitebeard was betting on Ace (not entirely sure what his plan was or what Ace needed to do). Shanks bet his arm on the new era, or rather, Luffy. It feels like the Yonkou, atleast Shanks and Whitebeard so far, are people who know whats up and are almost like, protecting One Piece (in the New World) from the WG (possibly, we haven't really seen or heard about it yet) and maybe pirates who aren't worthy. Maybe Big Momma and Kaidou have bets of their own.
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lol what a neutral opening post