Great job so far, but ID was 1.5 days, if that. 33 hours; 24 (1 day) + 9 (~1/3 day). Oh, and up until the end of ID you can still use Stephen's translations for cross referencing, as well as Aohige_AP's translation thread [[URL="http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=26311"]located here].
Ultimate Time-Line of the Grandline (Updated Mar, 2012)
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Right. Good to know about Aohige's translation page.
I changed the 1.5 day thing, but it's still +7 days cuz everything in Impel down leads up to the war on the day of Ace's execution.
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Why hasn't this question appeared in SBS yet? :)
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Hmmmm.. I'm not sure if this was asked, but is the world of One Piece in 24/7 like our world is?
The entire d-day thing for Alabasta and Ace's execution are just a tool to make the situation entertaining by providing a 'sense' of time. I don't recall a scene where it specifically shows or mentions how many hours are there in one day in the world of One Piece.
For example, a week in One Piece maybe 9 days in our world (only time-wise, not sunrise and sunset) while it's considered 7 days in One Piece. Meaning, each day in One Piece maybe longer than 24 hours.
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I'm not going to look for it, but there's a cover page containing a calendar indicating that in the OP world, there are 7-days in a week.
Regarding the number of hours in a day. I think it's very reasonable to assume it's the same as our real life hours and days. If it were different, I think by now Oda would have made an effort to indicate the difference in system. Considering how often he's used the time indicates and kept to them, they seem pretty consistent with our system.
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I think since the very concept of "hours" and "weeks" is used, we should assume they're using the same time system. I'm sure proof can be found somewhere, but someone else can look it up if they want to.
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So where are these proofs… ?
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Does no one have anything to say regarding Luffy's time on Amazon Lilly? T_T Damn…. well I guess I'll just go with my guesses then.
About the days of the week and hours of a day.... I can prove that it's impossible.
So it's suppose to take 4 days to sail from Amazon Lily to the Tarai Current and Impel Down. When they started sailing, it was 6 days away from Ace's execution. They sail for 4.5 days and there's 33 hours till Ace's execution. So do the math. 6 days - 4.5 days = 1.5 days, or around 36 hours. Thus there are 24 hours in a One Piece day
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i want to say that its 7-8 months between everything. I think there is more unseen time between each island maybe a week or so.. I know in this world it takes about 7 -9 weeks for pirates to go from England to the new world.. and that with out stops or side trips..
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Sorry Kibagami but that's an awful approximation. Let's do some simple math with common sense.
As Kibagami indicated, we suppose Luffy left Amazon Lily around 1-5 am in the morning. When Hancock and Luffy meets Momonga, it was still dark but not too dark, meaning the sun began to rise from that point. Now, the earliest sun rise in our world begins approximately at 5 am, so the range 1-5am confirms the scene where Luffy and Hancock meets Momonga assuming that the world of One Piece is 24 hours/day (this is my opinion on some ambiguity by the way, Kibagami..)
Therefore the approximate interpretation of this in simple math is 6x-1~5, where x indicates the hours in a day in One Piece world. Now, the manga specifies as Kibagami indicated that it took 4.5 days to reach ID, so the approximation becomes 1.5x-1~5.
Now, this is where I am going to be assuming. I am going to interpret Nyon's "Ace's execution is in 6 days" as in Ace's execution day is in 6 days. Then, as Kibagami said, when entering the ID, Oda specifies the time of Ace's execution as 33 hours exactly.
So now we can set up an equation. 1.5x-1~5 = 33- ('time of Ace's execution in the day of his execution').
Let's try to approximate that 'time'. Some guy says the execution is in 3 hours in this chapter:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/550/02/.On the next page, there is a scene where someone is drying their laundry. Also, in those 2 pages of scenes from South Blue, East Blue, North Blue, West Blue and Grand Line also indicate that the scenes take place at least after the sun rise. Sun rises approximately at 5 am so these two information give us the approximate time of 'specific time of Ace's execution'.
Therefore,
33 hours before the execution entering the Impel Down
minus 3 hours before Ace's exact execution time
minus 5 hours, the approximate time that the above '3 hours' claim was madeequal 25 hours before the day of Ace's execution from entering the Impel Down, which all sums up to
1.5x - 1~5 = 25. ('the equation')
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x = 17.3~20
so approximately, the world of One Piece is 17.3~20 hours/day according to my approximate calculations.However in reality, the right hand side of the equation, '25' would be a lower value than that because …..
what kind of government would want to make an execution to set an example to people at approximately 8 am in the morning where people would barely be awake?
Therefore realistically, the scenes from all the Blues and GL should take place at least at 9 AM, which gives us 14.7~17.3 hours/day in the world of One Piece!
I think the d-day or d-time in the manga specifically, this war and Alabasta are just a literary device, a way to 'create more feelings'. Please let me know if there is an error in my approximation though. I don't think Oda is too worried about the hours/day in OP.
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The last paragraph in the above post indicates one more thing, Oda isn't that TOO carefully with his choices of scenes with respect to time. Time is just a literary tool in OP.
If someone requests, I could even do the same approximation with Alabasta arc… and it will give me the same result probably.
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Interesting…. I've only skimmed through your post, but before I properly read it, I'd like to point out that Ace's execution was scheduled for 3pm (link pending). So when I saw your link, I thought it was noon.
But yeah I was using a generous helping of 'approximation' as well.
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Interesting…. I've only skimmed through your post, but before I properly read it, I'd like to point out that Ace's execution was scheduled for 3pm (link pending). So when I saw your link, I thought it was noon.
But yeah I was using a generous helping of 'approximation' as well.
3 pm? wow. That makes the approximate hours/day lower.
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I found a clock here:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/538/14/However, Oda has made some mistake with time, especially since Amazon Lily as I have indicated. Also, the clock indeed is the same as ours, but that doesn't mean they do have 24 hours/day. It could be just a convention. Though if it was just a convention… i wonder why they chose 12? just for the readers?
Also, here are some things that I found:
1. 10 hours before Luffy's resurrection, the clock shown above 'points' 12:05. If there is indeed an indication of exact time of Ace's execution, we can get an approximate hours/day that Oda is using (or at least.. the orientation that should have been)
2. Around the same chapter, Ivankov says Luffy has been fighting the poison for 20 hours before he is 'resurrected' so
33 hours before the execution
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= 13 hours
so, Luffy's infiltration to Ivankov's help, from Luffy's resurrection to escape ,and to the war all happened in 13 hours.
*edit: the execution is to be held earlier than the scheduled during the war. So that's perhaps another clue.
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Ivankov says that 20 hours is not a day in OP world, here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/538/19/, so Oda is indeed just using the time as a literary tool. - Luffy's 20 hours of fighting poison
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Nice. Thanks for your input, SFMF. Yeah I also thought perhap Oda made a mistake with the timing in Amazon Lily. It just doesn't add up if you ask me…. All evidence points to the fact that everything from Momonga arriving to Nyon Baba telling Luffy about Ace happened on the same day... yet ... well whatever. . . I'm supposed to be writing a paper right now so TO BE CONTINUED.
Re: the 3pm execution time, you're just gonna have to take my word for it... I distinctly remember seeing that somewhere, maybe a kind member will provide a link. However, it wasn't revealed that the execution time was to be moved up until well after the battle started (I believe it was just before they tried to cut the Den Den TV coverage).
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3pm execution time, you're just gonna have to take my word for it… I distinctly remember seeing that somewhere, maybe a kind member will provide a link.
Here's some info, including the link you wanted:
Chapter 513: Same Day as Auction, Arrival, Etc.
[On this day, the crew led by Captain Monkey D. Luffy, The "Straw Hat Pirates," tasted utter annihilation.]Chapter 514: Luffy's Flight-Path, Etc.
Pirates: Those Straw Hat folks are sure taking awhile, Duval-sama. Apparently things are nuts down at the harbor.
(^^Implies same-day)
Luffy Flying: Day, Night, Day (Dawn/Morning).Chapter 515: Luffy Wakes Up
Women: He slept for so long… I heard he was eating as he slept!Chapter 516: Hancock Introduction
Momonga: The execution will take place exactly one week from today!Chapter 521: Nyon, Hancock, and Luffy
Nyon: In just two days since it happened, he has made his way to our far land.Chapter 522: Luffy with Nyon
Nyon: It says, […] In one week, which is nyow but six days. To Impel Down, where he is held? A week in a pirate vessel, and four days for a Marine!Chapter 524: En Route to Impel Down (Left AL)
<food scene="" with="" luffyxhancock="">[Only six days left until]
[the public execution of Portgas D. Ace.]Chapter 525: Arrival at Impel Down
[It has been four and one-half days…]
[…since they left Amazon Lily, the Island of Women.]
[33 hours left…]
Hancock: {Here we go, Luffy!!}
[…until the execution of Ace.]Chapter 533: Hancock Leaves Impel Down
Hancock: How much time until his execution?
Domino: 29 hours. Three o'clock PM, tomorrow. Portgas D. Ace will be escorted out in the morning.Chapter 536: Level 5; Pre-Level 5.5</food>
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i don't know why such the hubbub over hours in the timeline. i thought this was supposed to be just about number of actual days this whole adventure has taken so far.
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Someone suggested One Piece days take longer than 24 hours, read the thread sir.
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Ivankov says that 20 hours is not a day in OP world, here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/538/19/, so Oda is indeed just using the time as a literary tool.
A day is 24 hours if I recall. So 20 hours is not a day this world or that world.
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i don't know why such the hubbub over hours in the timeline. i thought this was supposed to be just about number of actual days this whole adventure has taken so far.
Not days specifically, just how time has transpired over the course of the story. In this particular case, how much time transpired for Luffy specifically between the Saboady Archipelago and Marineford. (Amazon Lily and Impel Down arcs). For any other manga or comic this would probably be a waste of time, but Oda is pretty meticulous, so I at least find this stuff to be fairly interesting. It's not very relevant, most of the time, but it can be surprisingly useful here and there.
Ivankov says that 20 hours is not a day in OP world, here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/538/19/, so Oda is indeed just using the time as a literary tool.
A day is 24 hours if I recall. So 20 hours is not a day this world or that world.
I didn't really read your whole post before, SFMF, but now that Garaku points that sentence out I should also note that you are reading the passing of time wrong. It isn't "Three Hours Later" + "Seven Hours" + "Eight Hours"– which is 18, by the way, not 20-- but only "Eight Hours" in total. So eight hours passed between the start of the healing process and the "FOOOOOOD!" scene. If you look at the clock, it goes from 12:05 AM, to 3:05 AM, to 7:10 AM, and then ends at ~8:08 AM. The comment about him beating the poison in "just 20 hours!" is referring to the time since he was poisoned. Hancock leaves at "29 hours remaining", which is when Luffy was at Level 4, before he fights Magellan. Luffy passes out from poison in Level 5 at "26 hours remaining". He then wakes up at 8:00 AM, which is seven hours before the execution. 26 - 7 is 19 hours, and Luffy was poisoned well before passing out in Level 5. So Oda timed everything just right.
Also worth noting is that they head to Level 6 at roughly 8:40 AM:
[Chapter 539] Newkamas: Amazing, he's been eating like this for a full half an hour now!! […]
Ivankov: Inazuma!! Find out what time Ace Boy's being shipped out!! […]
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Remember in Robin's flashback when we saw the glove and all of the stuff floating around it in that tree library in Ohara? Maybe that has something to do with the weird time in One Piece, I remember more moons so maybe its a different moon everyday or more than 1 moon per day. I hope Oda explains the One Piece world more some time in the future.
I don't know if this was mentioned before in this thread, I only read the first few posts and the posts talking about the time in between SA and Marineford.
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The short timeline would be a good excuse for the strawhat crew to be able to meet back up without a lot of delay, cus the grand line would then apparently be quite a quick(although difficult) journy, especially considering that time scale takes in to account having an adventure on every island. but still it all taking place in such a a short time doesnt seem quite right.
i have a sort of theory that might lengthen the time line slightly:
in some places on our planet(Finland, the arctic circle), during the summer the sun sometimes doesn’t set for days at a time(I think it’s called a polar day, not sure), and since they’re circumnavigating the one piece world it’s possible that the sun setting and rising is different depending on where you are.i do agree that their measument of timre is probably the same as ours though(24/7) and sorry if this was said before
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Nice. Thanks for your input, SFMF. Yeah I also thought perhap Oda made a mistake with the timing in Amazon Lily. It just doesn't add up if you ask me…. All evidence points to the fact that everything from Momonga arriving to Nyon Baba telling Luffy about Ace happened on the same day... yet ... well whatever. . . I'm supposed to be writing a paper right now so TO BE CONTINUED.
Re: the 3pm execution time, you're just gonna have to take my word for it... I distinctly remember seeing that somewhere, maybe a kind member will provide a link. However, it wasn't revealed that the execution time was to be moved up until well after the battle started (I believe it was just before they tried to cut the Den Den TV coverage).
here is one: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/541/07/
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Ivankov says that 20 hours is not a day in OP world, here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/538/19/, so Oda is indeed just using the time as a literary tool.
not getting what the confusion is about here….
a day is 24 hours , the healing was gonna take 2 days according to ivankov , however luffy seems to be healed within even 1 day ... that's why ivankov is shocked...
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OK HERE'S WHAT I HAVE SO FAR
DAY 1 (ch490-513)
Arrive at Redline. Meet Camie and Duval. Adventures on Shabondy. The Auction House Affair. Get blasted by Kuma
There is NO obvious indication of a mini time skip between meeting Camie and getting defeated by Kuma. Seriously!
(ch491 p.10: Find out the location of Shabondy and Duval's base.)
(ch496: Eat Takoyaki Lunch. Brooke states on page 8 that it was a nice afternoon [of the same day]. P12-13 Arrive at the nearby (5km) Shabondy Arch; Luffy is still fat from Lunch)
(ch501 p.10: The auction started at 4pm, and has been going on for half an hour or so.)
(ch 504 p.3: Hawkins says that today is not his day to die, and he says it again when he faces Kizaru in Chap 507 p.19. Implying that Kizaru arrives on the same day as the auction.)
(ch 508 - 513: It seems the Straw Hats are confronted by PX-4 soon after they leave Shacky's bar. And then almost as soon as they defeat PX-4, Sentoumaru shows with PX-1, and then soon after that Kizaru shows up. Then, the Rayleigh and the real Kuma shows, and the rest is history.)DAY 2 (ch514 -515)
Luffy lands on Amazon Lilly. Rescued by the Kuja.
(Ch 513 p. 4: Sentoumaru says that Kuma's victims are sent flying for 3 days/ 3 nights. But he's WRONG. See ***notes on Day 3)
Also see ch 514 p7: Luffy's flight path only shows one sun set and one sun rise.DAY 3 (ch515 - 523)
Luffy awakens. Hancock arrives. Battle Arena. Love Tornado. Luffy finds out about Ace.
NOTE Nyon specifically says that Luffy punched the Tenryuubito TWO DAYS AGO. So we know that the death match between Luffy and the Boa sisters happens on DAY 3
(Ch515 p.6. The women say that Luffy had a really long sleep and that he was eating in his sleep. This leads me to believe that a day has elapsed since he ate the mushrooms)
Controversy In Ch 516 p.12, Momonga says Ace's execution happens in exactly one week. Normally, when people say "happens in a week," we don't count the current day. If today is Friday, and we say that the One Piece movie premiere is in a week, we usually would mean that it's happen happening next Friday, which is 7 days away, starting on Saturday. SOOOO when Ch 522 p. 9: Nyon says Ace's execution happens in 6 days from now, it's on the same day that Momonga and Hancock met. UNLESS ODA MADE A MISTAKE, that's how the time-count goes….DAY 4 (ch 523 - 524)
Luffy and Hancock leave Amazon Lilly with Momonga
(Ch 523 p 3: They were originally going to leave in the next morning but decided to leave in the late night, so I'm presuming its past midnight on Day 4.)
(Ch 523 p 6: When they leave it's still dark.)
(ch524 p.16: it's still 6 days until Ace's execution, but it is now light out.DAY 8 (ch 525 - 538)
(ch525 p.12:) Four 'n' half days journey from AL. They arrive at the Tarai current.
06:00am (Ch 525 p.17) 33 hours till execution. Luffy and Hancock arrive at Impel Down.
10:00am (Ch 533 p.2) 29 hours till execution. Hancock leaves Impel Down. Luffy & co. Fall into Lvl 4. Reports of Shanks fighting Kaidou
13:00pm (Ch 536 p.19) 26 hours till execution. Luffy and Bon pass out in Lvl 5. Inazuma discovers them.
~23:00pm (Ch 537 p.8) Bon-chan wakes up after 10 hours of sleep. He meets Ivankov; finds out about New Kama.DAY 9 (ch 538 - 580)
Starts at Midnight. Luffy recovers. JAIL BREAK TIME! Blackbeard meets Luffy. Day of Ace's execution. THE WAR: Whitebeard Pirates vs World Government & Shichibukai
00:05am (Ch 538 p14) Bon-chan begins cheering for Luffy.
03:05am (Ch 538 p16) Luffy is reported missing from lvl 5.
07:10am (Ch 538 p17) Luffy calls for food.
~7:40am (Ch539 p2) "He's been eating for about half an hour now." Luffy recovers
09:00am (Ch539 p14) "Ace is to be handed to the Marines at precisely 9am."
09:45am (Ch541 p07) Jail Break crew makes it to Lvl 4.EDIT: I updated the first post…. Everything from chap 538 to 580 happens on the day of Ace's execution so it doesn't really matter if I haven't finished the 9 th day
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DAY 3 (ch515 - 523)
SOOOO when Ch 522 p. 9: Nyon says Ace's execution happens in 6 days from now, it's on the same day that Momonga and Hancock met. UNLESS ODA MADE A MISTAKE, that's how the time-count goes….Judging from the panels, I think it is safe to just assume this scene takes place after midnight on Day 4. They are all night panels, and Hancock is already in bed. They decide to leave early because Luffy learns about Ace, which speeds up the process. So rather than a mistake, Momonga could mean literally "seven" days when he says week, and Nyon says "six days" because it is technically the following day.
07:10am (Ch 538 p17) Luffy emerges from the hole.
~8am-ish (Ch539 p2) "He's been eating for about half an hour now." Luffy recovers
09:00am (Ch539 p14) "Ace is to be handed to the Marines at precisely 9am."A few things: Luffy emerges at 8:08am, give or take a minute. The scene at 7:10am is more cheering from the Newkama's and the discussion between Jinbei and Ace about Luffy and Hancock. It's about 7:40am when we see Luffy still stuffing his face. The scene with Domino and Magellan is an unknown time, but definitely before 9:00am, seeing as they are in the lift heading down to Level 6 to get Ace, and they have to be at the entrance at 9:00am sharp. All of these are extremely minor details, but just in case…
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I have a question. Assuming Luffy went at May 5th (his birthday) to sea, and considering that now we're back to present time… Which is the most probable current month?
If we consider that Oda will do a time-skip soon, and make the story advance to the day that Luffy does 18 (May 5th, again) - or around that time, we can estimate how long the time-skip will be. Nothing to be sure, but it'll be fun to analyse. -
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I have a question. Assuming Luffy went at May 5th (his birthday) to sea, and considering that now we're back to present time… Which is the most probable current month?
If we consider that Oda will do a time-skip soon, and make the story advance to the day that Luffy does 18 (May 5th, again) - or around that time, we can estimate how long the time-skip will be. Nothing to be sure, but it'll be fun to analyse.Well, according to Kibagami's time line, it's been 72 days since they arrived in Little Garden. So, that would make it about July 15. I'm gonna totally guess and say Windmill Village to Little Garden was about two and a half months, plus the two weeks that have passed since the end of the war, that would make it October 14/15. So, that would mean, Luffy will be 18 in 7 and a half months.
Longer than I'd personally want a time skip, but if Oda decides to do it, it's totally understandable.
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Unless i'm mistaken, isn't Luffy's "birthday" meaningless? Didn't some random kid in the SBS say "hey, can Luffy's birthday be may 5th" and Oda was like, "yeah sure, why not"? Wasn't it just a throw away SBS thing like that? The same as with the crews nationalities, "may 5th" would be his real world birthday.
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Which is the most probable current month?
This question is so small and simple.
And the implications are so fucking huge in some ways I hope Oda never answers that.
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@Dan:
Unless I'm mistaken, isn't Luffy's "birthday" meaningless?
Sort of. Yes, and no. Del's question is using it to figure out how long the timeskip will be at a minimum though, based off a statement from Oda that this would be Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year old. In that regard, I wouldn't say it is useless, but the specific date has little relevance. For example, we can assume Luffy left on his 17th birthday per his promise with Ace, then put forward an educated guess that his voyage so far has been about 3.5 - 4 months, and finally conclude that the skip would need to be at least 8 months to bring Luffy to his 18th birthday.
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@Dan:
Unless i'm mistaken, isn't Luffy's "birthday" meaningless? Didn't some random kid in the SBS say "hey, can Luffy's birthday be may 5th" and Oda was like, "yeah sure, why not"? Wasn't it just a throw away SBS thing like that? The same as with the crews nationalities, "may 5th" would be his real world birthday.
In this case Oda actually provided the birthday in a SBS.
R: Oda-sensei!! I've been thinking about this a lot… what are Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Usopp and Sanji's birthdays? Tell us!!
O: I've gotten a lot of these questions, so I'll answer it now.
- Luffy -> May 5th
- Zoro -> November 11th
- Nami -> July 3rd
- Usopp -> April 1st
- Sanji -> March 2nd
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I dunno if I posted it or not, but long ago I theorized that everything in one piece has happened between Nami and Zoro's birthday (July 3 and Nov 11, about 4 months). Since no one to our knowledge has aged, it would make the most sense.
It should be noted that Oda purposely made it so that no body ages during the regular plot PERIOD (discounting the flashbacks of course). I think it was posted in some SBS interview somewhere (maybe Greg's post re: the possibility of the timeskip). So we'll just have to wait and see that the "last adventure as a 17 yr old" quote means
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Well, I've got nothing to offer, but I just realized that that entire Shabondy arc happened in one day. Damn! They ran into Camie and Duval, met Rayleigh, fought Kizaru, Sentomaru and some Pacifistas, and got blasted away by Kuma all in one fucking day! That's got to be one of the most eventful days in all of One Piece. Though I suppose Enies Lobby and Skypeia (maybe I'm wrong on this one) all happened in a day too.
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Eines Lobby we don't have a trusty reference frame because the "no night" thing, but I guess that it was short.
Skypea, the survival game was on only one day, from arival to the "dance with wolves party" was one day, and they escaped the 3rd day? That was fast…
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I can't imagine Enies Lobby being longer than half a day. All they really did was take a train over to the island, beat the shit out of everyone, and leave. It may've seemed long, but it was just a short period of time with lots of shit going on.
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Though I suppose [..] Skypeia (maybe I'm wrong on this one) all happened in a day too.
Two days + several days. Day 1 is their arrival up to landing on Upper Yard, then they have the bonfire at night, and the following day Luffy defeats Enel. They party afterward for 'several days'.
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so where's the actual map?
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so where's the actual map?
It's not an actual geographical map. :P
That thread is here: http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=20428
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Did everyone forget that the trip from Shabaody to Amazon Lily took 2 days?
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Sorry for reviving a somewhat dead topic but it's just THAT interesting :D
It's hard to believe that all their grandline adventures happens in less that 3 months -
I still can't believe time is supposed to be taken literally and coby grew up this much in under 3 months.
oh wait
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^It has probably something to do with the fact that Oda's art style changed as well, I suppose.
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No. Coby is from the very beginning of One Piece. None of the adventures from East Blue has been accounted for in the timeline so it would have been more than 3 months for him to grow that much.
The thing about East Blue is that according to the Geography (see that thread for more on this), the distance needed to sail is much greater than in the GL. Also, Luffy and Zoro spent a considerable amount of time drifting on the ocean cuz they have no navigation skills.
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coby still looked like that in his cover sotry so it's not exactly the very beginning.
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I went back and looked at it. When Luffy stands next to Coby after they defeat Morgan, in front of the sergeant at that base, Luffy seems a few inches taller. The difference in height seems the same when they met at Water 7. So however much time went by it wasn't enough for the difference in height to change noticably.
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coby still looked like that in his cover sotry so it's not exactly the very beginning.
ya got me there
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@Ludovic
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^It has probably something to do with the fact that Oda's art style changed as well, I suppose.
Yeah, a few months of puberty don't just give a brand new nose and head shape. So maybe Oda wanted to emphasize that he's becoming a pretty-boy when he grows up or something o.o
Someone should write to SBS and ask how old he is, because it's very vague if he's almost as old as Luffy or just a 12-year-old kid.