eh just a dumb theory but what the hell, DF Logia users can't use Haki that would totally balance the OP world if you ask me.
Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
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Is it possible that Luffy used Color of Observation in his fight against Mr. 3 when he picked the real one out of all the fakes? When Mr. 3 asked him how he knew which one was him, Luffy said it was instinct.
Kid is not Sabo. How do I know this? Because Sabo has a unique hat, which seems to be a running theme in one piece.
But that mouth with dark lips is also unique, I still can't remember other char with those, and the googles
eh just a dumb theory but what the hell, DF Logia users can't use Haki that would totally balance the OP world if you ask me.
I agree, indeed it`s false =D
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Again why does the entire crew have to have haki? You got two choices of it and you're just throwing shit against the wall to see if it sticks with these theories.
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Oww here are still some members not over the fact that their favourite SH won`t get Haki.
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Not really a theory, more of a random thought I had about the DF's origins…
There is a "Devil Fruit Tree" that is located somewhere at the bottom of the ocean (in the New World maybe?). Once an user dies, the fruit he had starts to "grow", but takes a few years to mature, but once it does, it gets released and taken by sea-currents, that's why they all around the world.
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But that mouth with dark lips is also unique, I still can't remember other char with those, and the googles
Are you looking at the same picture of Sabo? It could be that since only his mouth is the only thing you can see, it looks bigger. But his lips aren't dark - the thickness of the line isn't any wider than Luffy's in that picture. And also if you look closely, you can see that Sabo still has curly hair.
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@Zik:
Again why does the entire crew have to have haki?
Have to have haki? No one has to have haki. I just think it's extremely likely. The strawhats will eventually become the strongest pirate crew on the seas. They are a small but extremely powerful force. It's not as if only the big three are going to do all the fighting. Are you suggesting that by the end of the manga, Nami would not be strong enough to defeat current Smoker just because Smoker is a logia? You've got to be joking.
Ussop will be the greatest sniper in the world by the end of the manga! Oh wait, he can't hit logias…never mind. Franky? He's going to upgrade himself with a massive laser beam, after learning new things from Dr. Vegapunk. Too bad he won't be able to land a blow on a logia and will have to run away if he comes across one.
None of this sounds absurd to you?
@Zik:
You got two choices of it and you're just throwing shit against the wall to see if it sticks with these theories.
Actually, I have three choices, and I'm not "throwing shit against the wall." I'm analyzing their actions and personalities within the story so far to paint of picture of what I believe would best fit their characters. And what are you doing? I'm not sure. You're certainly not providing anything to the discussion.
@Don:
Oww here are still some members not over the fact that their favourite SH won`t get Haki.
Sad:sad:Every straw hat will get haki eventually. If you'd like I'll bet you here and now. I'm willing to wager 100,000$.
You just seem like someone who is butthurt because Luffy won't be the only strawhat with haki.
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Have to have haki? No one has to have haki. I just think it's extremely likely. The strawhats will eventually become the strongest pirate crew on the seas. They are a small but extremely powerful force. It's not as if only the big three are going to do all the fighting
As we've seen haki isn't the only thing that can make a person stronger. It really does look like you're randomly guessing with this theory.
Are you suggesting that by the end of the manga, Nami would not be strong enough to defeat current Smoker just because Smoker is a logia? You've got to be joking.
Are you a dumbass? I'd have to assume yes since you'd even ask if I'm suggesting any of that nonsense that happens to be on your mind.
Ussop will be the greatest sniper in the world by the end of the manga! Oh wait, he can't hit logias…never mind. Franky? He's going to upgrade himself with a massive laser beam, after learning new things from Dr. Vegapunk. Too bad he won't be able to land a blow on a logia and will have to run away if he comes across one.
None of this sounds absurd to you?
Not absurd at all if you think if they don't learn haki it has to be that way.
Actually, I have three choices, and I'm not "throwing shit against the wall." I'm analyzing their actions and personalities within the story so far to paint of picture of what I believe would best fit their characters. And what are you doing? I'm not sure. You're certainly not providing anything to the discussion.
LOL @ entertaining the thought of more members of the crew having king's haki after it was just explained.
What does Chopper being the best doctor in the world or Nami being the best navigator or Robin have to do with hitting logia uers with the use of haki?
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Dragon saved a totally random dude that merited him a page in Chapter 589. So Sabo isn't confirmed to be alive yet so the poster with a sig that has a check on Sabo being alive should remove that check because I have problem with it. Now I think that the whole crew would be getting haki. Boo hoo.:getlost:
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@Zik:
As we've seen haki isn't the only thing that can make a person stronger. It really does look like you're randomly guessing with this theory.
Did I say it was the only thing that could make them stronger? It's something that can and will make them stronger. Every strawhat is extremely important to a fight, since there will only be about 11 total members. Each will probably be as stronger or stronger than a WB commander.
I'm randomly guessing with my theory? Did you read it at all? There's a difference between analyzing and guessing randomly.
@Zik:
Are you a dumbass? I'd have to assume yes since you'd even ask if I'm suggesting any of that nonsense that happens to be on your mind.
Yeah, you're right. I'm a dumb ass for trying to argue with someone who can't even form a coherent sentence, let alone follow simple logic.
If you are suggesting that the strawhats will not learn haki, then you are also suggesting that they will be utterly helpless against anyone with a logia fruit. There is no other way to touch someone with a logia, unless you have control of the color of armor haki. In other words, you are suggesting that Nami, Brooke, Franky, R_o_bin, Ussop, and other strawhats would be unable to fight a logia fruit user, even by the end of the manga.
Are you really that short sighted?
@Zik:
Not absurd at all if you think if they don't learn haki it has to be that way.
What an idiotic response. Way to not answer the question. The fact that it has to be that way because it is written that way doesn't mean it's not an altogether absurd possibility, since it has yet to be written.
@Zik:
LOL @ entertaining the thought of more members of the crew having king's haki after it was just explained.
LOL@ your feeble attempts to engage in rational discourse.
@Zik:
What does Chopper being the best doctor in the world or Nami being the best navigator or Robin have to do with hitting logia uers with the use of haki?
The short answer to your question is "go reread the manga, specifically the last chapter."
The longer answer to your question is that although they have their own goals, they have one larger goal, and that is to become the strongest pirate crew in the world in order to support their captain in finding One Piece and becoming the Pirate King.
We saw this last chapter when Mihawk commented that Zoro threw away his pride and found something larger and more important than his own goal for which to strive. The strawhats, including Chopper and Nami, are going to take these two years to get stronger just for this very purpose. Unlike the WB pirates, theirs is a small crew, and because of that, each individual member must be strong enough to stand on his/her own.
That said, it would be a travesty for the strawhats, by the end of the manga, to be the strongest pirate crew in the world and yet unable to use even the basics of haki, unable to even fight against logia users. They are probably going to be on par, if not stronger, than the WB commanders.
But please, let's make a wager, since you seem so confident in your opinion.
@Gol:
Dragon saved a totally random dude that merited him a page in Chapter 589. So Sabo isn't confirmed to be alive yet so the poster with a sig that has a check on Sabo being alive should remove that check because I have problem with it. Now I think that the whole crew would be getting haki. Boo hoo.:getlost:
Oh! Oh! I know this game! Let me try!
I'm an idiot who has no idea what I'm talking about, and I like to make erroneous comments that are utterly unrelated to anything having to do with anything in the discussion going on in this thread in an ill-formed attempt to annoy a poster whose intelligence far exceeds my own. I saw a bunch of posters ganging up on one poster, and instead of using my tiny brain to figure out what the actual argument was or how it originated, I'm going to automatically side with the big crowd of posters because it will make me more popular, and I'm someone who cares more about being liked than the truth. Oh, and I have a tiny penis.
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Did I say it was the only thing that could make them stronger?
No did I say you did? If you acknowledged this I don't see how you couldn't understand the initial question.
It's something that can and will make them stronger.
Again I ask why does each and every single SH have to learn haki?
I'm randomly guessing with my theory? Did you read it at all? There's a difference between analyzing and guessing randomly.
Given the choices yeah you did unless you have an analysis of why they couldn't be proficient in both types of haki and left it out or real reasons why they couldn't lean toward the other.
Yeah, you're right.
I figured. Making up wild scenarios no one brought up to try and prove another point is a great way of trying to make a reasonable point and support a theory.
If you are suggesting that the strawhats will not learn haki
No I never suggested all of them would not learn it you assumed that.
Are you really that short sighted?
Yeah cuz the NW is filled with endless logia users the SHs will have to fight to the death.
Your incessant harping on logia users as if they're the main and only threat and why haki must be used by all SHs is a terrible argument.
What an idiotic response. Way to not answer the question. The fact that it has to be that way because it is written that way doesn't mean it's not an altogether absurd possibility, since it has yet to be written.
To an idiotic notion. I never said only Luffy would learn haki or that all of the SHs won't learn haki. I asked why do all of them have to and laughed at your "analysis" of what types your "theory" said they would end up using.
LOL@ your feeble attempts to engage in rational discourse.
I'm sure the irony is lost on you.
The short answer to your question is "go reread the manga, specifically the last chapter."
Show me where and when in the last chapter there was any hint to all of the SHs learning haki. Is there a haki for dummies book in the library Chopper is in? Longarm tribe mastered haki and will teach it to their sideshow skeleton just cuz? I'm just suppose to ignore Nami learning more about using the weather for her weapon and just assume the haki wizards will appear and teach her color of armor?
The longer answer to your question is that although they have their own goals, they have one larger goal, and that is to become the strongest pirate crew in the world in order to support their captain in finding One Piece and becoming the Pirate King.
We saw this last chapter when Mihawk commented that Zoro threw away his pride and found something larger and more important than his own goal for which to strive. The strawhats, including Chopper and Nami, are going to take these two years to get stronger just for this very purpose. Unlike the WB pirates, theirs is a small crew, and because of that, each individual member must be strong enough to stand on his/her own.
That said, it would be a travesty for the strawhats, by the end of the manga, to be the strongest pirate crew in the world and yet unable to use even the basics of haki, unable to even fight against logia users. They are probably going to be on par, if not stronger, than the WB commanders.
But please, let's make a wager, since you seem so confident in your opinion.
It's funny cuz your theory has all of them learning haki. You keep talking about logia users but your theory doesn't even have all of them learning color of the armor which is the only type of haki that allows you to harm them.
So what's the wager since you have no idea what I think on the matter?
All of the current SHs will all know haki after the time skip? Since your theory has all of them learning some type of haki. I'd take it, so are we betting accounts or money? Or are we betting exactly on your theory and what types of haki EACH SH uses? Cuz I'd take that bet as well.
That end of the manga bullshit is a meaningless wager if that's what you have in mind. I'm not gonna wait around possibly 7-10 years for your theory to pan out. Don't tell me you had something in mind like all current and future SHs will all know haki by the end of the manga?
Wait wait how about a bet on the amount of logia users each individual SH actually fights? Cuz according to this:
[hide]@Chikmagnet7:Newest theory:
As Rayleigh explained, every single human being has the potential to manifest the power known as haki. The question is whether one learns to control this power and its two separate forms. With that in mind, it's clear that as the pirate king's crew and therefore the strongest pirate crew in the world, each member of the strawhat pirates will learn to control haki.
That does not mean, however, that each one will learn how to utilize King's haki, otherwise known as Color of the Conqueror (henceforth abbreviated as CoC lol). Most likely only Luffy and Zoro will be able to use this rare type of haki, since the potential to use this type seems to be hereditary. Also, the fact that each member of the strawhats will learn haki does not mean that each will be as good at using it as the others or that each strawhat's haki will be as strong as everyone else's.
Ignoring for now the fact that each individual strawhat will have a different level of skill, ability, and power in his/her haki usage, the only question, therefore, is what type of haki each strawhat will eventually come to specialize in, since, as we know, one can use all different kinds of haki but will most likely specialize in one, since, as Rayleigh said, usually people drift towards one type or the other. This is a list of where I think each strawhat will drift and why I think so.
Luffy: Color of the Conqueror (CoC)
! Luffy is the captain and the eventual conqueror of the grand line and new world as well as the one who will ultimately become pirate king. Luffy has already shown an immense ability to use CoC and specializing in this would fit in well with his personality, goals, and his overall narrative.
Zoro: Color of armaments (CoA) but will also have king's haki
! Although Zoro will be the only other member besides Luffy able to use CoC, I believe that he will specialize in CoA. This is because CoA has been said to allow its user to infuse haki into weapons and cut even the likes of logias. This idea fits in well with Zoro's ability to cut nearly anything. Specializing in CoA would make his slahses and overall swordfighting abilities much stronger.
Sanji: Color of Observation (CoO)
! Because Sanji is a hand to hand fighter, dodging is of the utmost importance, especially, for instance, if he comes up against someone with a very sharp weapon. Being able to read one's movements is more important to a hand to hand fighter than it is to a weapon's user like Zoro, who is more likely to specialize in something that makes his slashes stronger. Also, being able to sense one's surroundings is particularly important to Sanji, since as the cook, it is his job to find and locate wildlife and other sources of food for his crew mates.
Nami: CoA
! I believe Nami is more likely to specialize in this form of haki, if only because her fighting style utilizes weather based weaponry. It would be more important for her to focus on using haki to make the attacks of those weapons stronger and allowing those weapons to affect devil fruit users than it would be for her to focus on dodging the attacks of others. Of course, CoO would be important to her as well, since she is the navigator and seems to have an uncanny ability to predict the weather, but if she wants to grow stronger, she will focus on CoA.
Ussop: CoA
! You might be seeing a pattern here. The people who use weapons in battle, I believe, are more likely to end up specializing in CoA than another form of haki. Ussop will most likely focus on this as well to increase the strength and power of his sniper ammo as well as to allow his weaponry to affect devil fruit users. It is important that he specialize in this so that he does not become useless against someone with a logia. For example, I believe Benn Beckman, first mate of the Red Hairs, is a complete master of CoA haki. No wonder Kizaru was scared when Beckman pointed that gun at his face. Ussop is another character to whom CoO would also be very important. Although I think he will specialize in CoA, CoO will be useful in sniping far away targets a la Van Auger.
Robin: CoO
! Robin, like Sanji, is also a hand to hand fighter. Well, sort of. She uses no weapons and relies only on her senses to fight. She is also the crew's resident archeologist, and her focusing on the CoO haki would jive with her narrative as one who can sense and discover new things.
Chopper: CoO! Once Chopper increases his overall strength, his main weakness will be his inability to react quickly enough to the attacks of others. Specializing in CoO would change that. He would sense when both he and his nakama are in danger and be able to use his rumble balls to change the situation in his favor.
Franky: CoA
! I believe Franky will specialize in CoA because, as a cyborg, he has numerous weapons he can use which would greatly benefit from haki. Imagine Franky, having learned a thing or two from Dr. Vegapunk's lab, with a beam (OMG) that can connect with logias. That is what I envision in his future. Franky is not someone who needs to worry so much about dodging attacks. As a cyborg, he is very durable, and specializing in CoA would only increase that defense.
Brooke: CoO! Gasp! I know what you're all thinking: "But Brooke is a swordsman, just like Zoro! Why will he not specialize in CoA???" Fear not, my friends! I do not mean to say by any means that Brooke will not be able to hurt devil fruit users or logias, or that he won't be able to infuse his strikes and slashes with CoA haki. I only mean to point out that although Zoro and Brooke are both swordsman, they are very different types of swordsman with very different styles. Zoro is more direct and aggressive; Brooke is more roundabout in his fighting and focuses more on finesse than power. With that in mind, I believe he would benefit more by specializing in CoO, which would allow him to react better to his opponents movements and read his surroundings.
For those of you keeping track at home, that makes 4 strawhats who will specialize in CoA and 4 strawhats who will specialize in CoO, while Luffy as the captain will focus on CoC (lol). As we know, there will most likely be two more strawhats (I'm guessing a fishman and a giant). I imagine one of them will specialize in CoA while the other specializes in CoO, if this patter prevails.
And for those of you complaining about how CoC seems useless and weaker than the other two, let me remind you that it's rare for a reason. It will be extremely important in Luffy's growth and eventual power. Luffy was the one who came up with the gears in order to make himself stronger for his friends and to accomplish his goal. Leave it to Luffy to use CoC and other forms of haki in ways no one has ever heard of or thought of before, bringing them to new heights. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he brings king's haki to the next level or even invents his own form of haki.
[/hide]Brook, Sanji, Robin, and Chopper are all gonna pale in comparison to all of the logias in the NW and won't measure up to the WB commanders cuz you know color of observation doesn't help you harm a logia user directly. They'll specialize in observation not in armor and fall short to the countless logia users waiting for them.
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I'm tired so after you're done with your flaming and all the effort you put in your insults and any other "witty" remarks let me know and make it clear if you're actually serious about the wager since you brought it up and have assumed what you think I'm saying.
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@Zik:
No did I say you did?
Indeed you did. Or at least you implied it. Let's review:
Your initial question: @Zik:
Again why does the entire crew have to have haki?
My answer: @chikmagnet7:
Have to have haki? No one has to have haki. I just think it's extremely likely.
Your next response: @Zik:
As we've seen haki isn't the only thing that can make a person stronger.
So what, pray tell, was the point of this comment, were it not meant to mean that I was saying that haki was the only way for the strawhats to get stronger? I never said they had to learn haki; I only said it was very very likely they would.
@Zik:
If you acknowledged this I don't see how you couldn't understand the initial question.Again I ask why does each and every single SH have to learn haki?
And again, I've already answered you….I'm not saying that each and every strawhat "has to learn haki." I'm saying it's extremely likely they will.
http://www.readingrockets.org/teaching/reading101/comprehension?gclid=CIHhpcfe26MCFQsCbAodIGPP9Q
@Zik:
Given the choices yeah you did unless you have an analysis of why they couldn't be proficient in both types of haki and left it out or real reasons why they couldn't lean toward the other.
So because I didn't include an analysis of why each strawhat could not be one or the other and instead opted to analyze why each strawhat would fall under one or the other, my post becomes random guessing, instead of analysis?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analysis
Want to show me where explaining the negative is necessary for analysis?
You're completely full of shit.
@Zik:
I figured. Making up wild scenarios no one brought up to try and prove another point is a great way of trying to make a reasonable point and support a theory.
Ah, there's something no one's tried before: take a sentence out of context that proves your point, otherwise known as an admission of defeat.
Thanks.
@Zik:
No I never suggested all of them would not learn it you assumed that.
Then please, if that is not what you meant, tell me which you think will learn haki and which you think won't. It doesn't help if you just hide behind your keyboard eating cupcakes without explaining yourself.
@Zik:
Yeah cuz the NW is filled with endless logia users the SHs will have to fight to the death.
Will have to fight to the death? I doubt it. But is it possible that they run into logia users they have to fight to the death? Yes, yes it is.
@Zik:
Your incessant harping on logia users as if they're the main and only threat and why haki must be used by all SHs is a terrible argument.
Saying an argument is terrible is one way of avoiding it. Notice how you haven't actually explained why it's terrible, probably because you can't.
@Zik:
To an idiotic notion.
What are you even saying at this point?
@Zik:
I never said only Luffy would learn haki or that some of the SHs won't learn haki.
LOL at your attempts to backtrack. This is exactly what you were saying. Your question, though utterly unrelated to anything I posted, asked why every strawhat had to learn haki. The implicit reasoning behind your question suggests you don't think every strawhat will learn haki. If you did, why would you ask it? It's not as if the question itself has anything to do with what I wrote. I'm sorry for assuming you actually had a rational basis for your question. I won't make the same mistake again.
@Zik:
I asked why do all of them have to and laughed at your "analysis" of what types your "theory" said they would end up using.
I'm sure the irony is lost on you.This part of your post actually had me laughing out loud for a good minute. I'm just glad you can manage to find the "i" "r" "o" "n" and "y" keys on your keyboard without too much trouble. The only ironic notion in this whole exchange has been the fact that the person claiming that irony has been lost on me doesn't have the slightest idea what irony actually is. That's quite ironic indeed.
@Zik:
Show me where and when in the last chapter there was any hint to all of the SHs learning haki.
What does this have anything to do whatsoever with what I said or have been talking about? Answer that question first. Did I say there was evidence the strawhats were learning haki? The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Nor did I even say that the strawhats would learn haki over the timeskip. These were all your assumptions, begun from an idiotic starting point because you didn't carefully and thoroughly read the post in the first place. I am talking by the end the manga here.
@Zik:
It's funny cuz your theory has all of them learning haki.
Actually, no it doesn't. Wouldn't you be better served to actually read the post, as opposed to, you know, arguing blindly for no apparent reason other than the fact that you're waiting for some pedophilic porn to download?
My "theory" only deals with first, my opinion that they will eventually have haki. I do not specify when or how. The bulk of the post is directed towards once they have haki, analyzing which form of haki they will specialize in, since according to Rayleigh users of haki tend to drift towards one form of haki or another.
@Zik:
You keep talking about logia users but your theory doesn't even have all of them learning color of the armor which is the only type of haki that allows you to harm them.
Again, thank you for proving to me you didn't actually read the post. It deals with which type of haki the strawhats will specialize in, not which type they will learn. As I explain in the post, each strawhat will know how to use at least the two main types of haki, but will specialize in only one, as Rayleigh explained. Why am I even arguing with you anymore. It's clear you have zero idea what you're talking about at this point.
@Zik:
So what's the wager since you have no idea what I think on the matter?
I know exactly what you think on the matter: nothing. Or, at least, that is what you've demonstrated – no ability to think rationally. I'm willing to wager literally anything. That is how confident I am in this.
@Zik:
All of the current SHs will all know haki after the time skip?
Strawman. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
I never said that. Once again, you didn't read the post.
@Zik:
Since your theory has all of them learning some type of haki. I'd take it, so are we betting accounts or money? Or are we betting exactly on your theory and what types of haki EACH SH uses? Cuz I'd take that bet as well.
I'm betting that each strawhat will be able to use haki. That is what we've been arguing about, is it not? I'm willing to bet anything. I don't care about accounts. How much money do you have? I'll wager 5 grand.
@Zik:
That end of the manga bullshit is a meaningless wager if that's what you have in mind. I'm not gonna wait around possibly 7-10 years for your theory to pan out. Don't tell me you had something in mind like all current and future SHs will all know haki by the end of the manga?
Is this a question? Why don't you actually read the entire post and then get back to me. You really don't seem to have read it or understood it very well at all. Get back to me once you've read it thoroughly.
@Zik:
Wait wait how about a bet on the amount of logia users each individual SH actually fights?
Why would I bet on that? It's totally unrelated to what we were discussing.
@Zik:
Cuz according to this:
Brook, Sanji, Robin, and Chopper are all gonna pale in comparison to all of the logias in the NW and won't measure up to the WB commanders cuz you know color of observation doesn't help you harm a logia user directly. They'll specialize in observation not in armor and fall short to the countless logia users waiting for them.Again, I never said they wouldn't learn both types of haki. I said they would specialize in only one, as Rayleigh explained. Reading comprehension is useful in this instance.
@everyone: and this, ladies and gentlemen, is exactly why you do not post drunk
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Wow, I actually read that entire debate/argument, and I almost feel like it does deserve it's own thread.
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Zik y r u always starting fights with the newbies? D:
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Zik y r u always starting fights with the newbies? D:
Because he can only win arguements against noobs and whats funny is I think the new guy won lol
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Zik y r u always starting fights with the newbies? D:
I wasn't really starting. I made a comment according to my opinion and dude lashed out as best as he could.
@Chikmagnet7:I know exactly what you think on the matter: nothing. Or, at least, that is what you've demonstrated – no ability to think rationally. I'm willing to wager literally anything. That is how confident I am in this.
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"All of the current SHs will all know haki after the time skip?"Seems you won't agree to that one okay. Well at least bet your theory.
"Or are we betting exactly on your theory and what types of haki EACH SH uses? Cuz I'd take that bet as well."Of course you've assumed and continued to presume so which wager is it? 5 grand on either of these due to your confidence?
I specifically asked why does the entire crew have to learn haki without ever specifying what I thought on the matter (since I actually think some will learn it). You think all of them will so it doesn't matter on my side anyway.**
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Wow, I actually read that entire debate/argument, and I almost feel like it does deserve it's own thread.
As did I. It was almost as thrilling as the manga itself.
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Wow, I actually read that entire debate/argument, and I almost feel like it does deserve it's own thread.
i fell like they deserve couple teraphy
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Sorry in advance if this qualifies as a dumb prediction. xP
I randomly thought about this while posting in the Collectibles thread, but I want to hear some more input. c:
Spoilered what I typed so I don't have to type it again:
! Okay. So in accordance with Rayleigh's definition of Haki in Chapter 597, I have come to the conclusion that Hattori definitely has Haki. Duh. It's the only way he'd be able to sense Lucci's movements and move exactly when Lucci was moving back during their ventriloquist act on Water Seven. And it's probably from being together for so long. Animals in One Piece tend to be very sensitive to Haki. It also totally means Hattori can probably read all of Lucci's rokushiki martial arts movements and it's also how Hattori knows where to land and fly during battle. Like all those times Hattori would land on a box Luffy was about to hit, and then fly off seconds before Luffy impacted the box.
! So when we said Hattori probably was Lucci's sensei, we probably weren't far from the truth. LMFAO. WEEEE. Cause I don't even think Lucci has a level of Haki that matches Hattori's amazing skills so far.
! Lucci hates weakness and thinks it's a sin, right? And we've never seen Hattori attack so everyone would assume he's weak. But they would be sadly mistaken. Because he's in fact the strongest member of CP9, being able to use Haki and all. So far we've only seen him use the "Color of Presence"…but just watch. One day they're all going to be in a big battle and then Hattori is going to pull an Intimidation and wipe out half a courtyard. Luffy was like "Why don't you fight your own battles?" Why fight the battle when Lucci's the young grasshopper who needs the training? And since Luffy has the strongest form of Haki ever, he was right to assume that the pigeon was the real culprit. OH SNAP. Cause that was his own "presence" sensing, ofc.
! Lucci doesn't just keep him around because he's a good childhood friend (though I'd like to think so, bawww Lucci's such a sweetheart) but also because Lucci's been trying to learn the Way of The Haki for years now, and Hattori is the best sensei ever. And if Hattori can read Lucci's movements so well and sense his rokushiki so well, then it's logical to assume that Hattori knows Rokushiki too.Anyways, let me know if this belongs in the Haki discussion thread instead. x_x
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Its just a bird my friend.
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Dammit, Oda. Just… dammit.
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Hattori exists only to make Lucci less boring than he already his.
He has the "look less boring" haki.
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LOL Z TEH GOD BIRD??????
RANDOM IN DA HOOOOOUUUUSSSSEEEE LULZBALL Z
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No but seriously, fuck this terrible thread.
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Pwnpigeon .
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Sorry in advance if this qualifies as a dumb prediction. xP
I randomly thought about this while posting in the Collectibles thread, but I want to hear some more input. c:
Spoilered what I typed so I don't have to type it again:
! Okay. So in accordance with Rayleigh's definition of Haki in Chapter 597, I have come to the conclusion that Hattori definitely has Haki. Duh. It's the only way he'd be able to sense Lucci's movements and move exactly when Lucci was moving back during their ventriloquist act on Water Seven. And it's probably from being together for so long. Animals in One Piece tend to be very sensitive to Haki. It also totally means Hattori can probably read all of Lucci's rokushiki martial arts movements and it's also how Hattori knows where to land and fly during battle. Like all those times Hattori would land on a box Luffy was about to hit, and then fly off seconds before Luffy impacted the box.
! So when we said Hattori probably was Lucci's sensei, we probably weren't far from the truth. LMFAO. WEEEE. Cause I don't even think Lucci has a level of Haki that matches Hattori's amazing skills so far.
! Lucci hates weakness and thinks it's a sin, right? And we've never seen Hattori attack so everyone would assume he's weak. But they would be sadly mistaken. Because he's in fact the strongest member of CP9, being able to use Haki and all. So far we've only seen him use the "Color of Presence"…but just watch. One day they're all going to be in a big battle and then Hattori is going to pull an Intimidation and wipe out half a courtyard. Luffy was like "Why don't you fight your own battles?" Why fight the battle when Lucci's the young grasshopper who needs the training? And since Luffy has the strongest form of Haki ever, he was right to assume that the pigeon was the real culprit. OH SNAP. Cause that was his own "presence" sensing, ofc.
! Lucci doesn't just keep him around because he's a good childhood friend (though I'd like to think so, bawww Lucci's such a sweetheart) but also because Lucci's been trying to learn the Way of The Haki for years now, and Hattori is the best sensei ever. And if Hattori can read Lucci's movements so well and sense his rokushiki so well, then it's logical to assume that Hattori knows Rokushiki too.Anyways, let me know if this belongs in the Haki discussion thread instead. x_x
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I'm listening to "Nas Is Like" and watching the dancing baby and Ringo and Paul go for it.
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They approve! Hattori definitely has ha- Wait, what? Seriously? You've got to be trolling here dude. No?Too bad though. Too fucking bad. Too motherfucking bad for you that Hattori never became relevant during that whole motherfucking arc.
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We are going to have a month of this aren't we? :sad:
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We are going to have a month of this aren't we? :sad:
I'm afraid so but look on the bright side though; we're gonna have a brand new set of bad theories and bad posters to mock.:ninja:
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Yeah he has Haki (Haoshoku i believe), it just makes sense since he's the WG's supreme commander.
All is well in the world.
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Hattori has haki….
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(If Sabo is alive) Do you think he will have a fruit? I think he will, since Ace and Luffy do (did). Also what will it be? I think he'll have a Zoan. Ace with the Logia, Luffy with the Paramecia. I think that works best. What do you think? Will he have a fruit at all?
Three fruits three brothers?
PS.
THIS IS NOT A SABO ALIVE/DEAD THREAD.
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hey guys I think Vegapunk will have blue hair
no reasoning for it at all, but I still think that's what his hair color will be
discuss
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Does this really warrant it's own thread?
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Mythical zoan or a hax paramecia.
@Charzonsos:Does this really warrant it's own thread?
Probably not.
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I'd like it to be none, will probably be some paramecia that is utterly impossible to accurately predict without a lucky guess which makes this thread utterly pointless.
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Kaidou hás an Earth logia.
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It's more there's three fruits, and three brothers, so I think that'd be the most likely.
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The Monkey Zoan that gives him gas. Heard it here first.
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The fun thing, is that he has more valid arguments than Perona's supporters.
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The Monkey Zoan that gives him gas. Heard it here first.
Actually, I think a Monkey Zoan would suit him perfectly. And you know how much Oda likes monkeys/apes…
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I think that Doflamingos ability is just very strong trained/ extra ordinary type of haki, because oda has never mentioned in any ways that flamingo would have eaten any fruits. That kind of fruit would be very absurd anyway.
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Ancient zoan: Pterodactyl. He would be the most free man, and awesome at the same time.
(Talking about the freedom theme… Hope it's not a Bald Eagle DF. :ninja:)