You are right juju, Naruto won't fight the 10 tails.
Actually Sasuke will fight it and sacrifice himself to kill the 10 tails because he will become good in the end.
You are right juju, Naruto won't fight the 10 tails.
Actually Sasuke will fight it and sacrifice himself to kill the 10 tails because he will become good in the end.
They will just respawn again. Naruto isn't fighting the 10 tails, i repeat Naruto isn't fighting the 10 tails. They are ninjas and will fight regardless, Naruto will sign peace treaties and shit and gain the trust of the other Kages.
DAMN juju unless your Kishimoto himself you must be physic….can you tell me how onepiece ends.
He doesn't get instant regeneration all the time. He had a broken hand and his whole body had to be bandages Op style to get better after the Sasuke fight.
What's that, juju? Bandages heal everything? Is that what you're saying?
I'm starting to remember a certain rant of yours on that matter existing in One Piece.
You are right juju, Naruto won't fight the 10 tails.
Actually Sasuke will fight it and sacrifice himself to kill the 10 tails because he will become good in the end.
If it means Sasuke dies, it can't be that bad.
DAMN juju unless your Kishimoto himself you must be physic….can you tell me how onepiece ends.
yea Luffy going to be PK and Zoro Goat swordsman.:wassat: I also new how DBZ would end too. Kenshin tricked me through. Your acting like these mangas ending is so hard to guess. The way they get to the ending is hard to guess through. The reason naruto won't fight the 10 tails is because hey 10 tails would kill him in a neno second. Only rikudo sennin could even contain him.
yea Luffy going to be PK and Zoro Goat swordsman.:wassat: I also new how DBZ would end too. Kenshin tricked me through. Your acting like these mangas ending is so hard to guess. The way they get to the ending is hard to guess through. The reason naruto won't fight the 10 tails is because hey 10 tails would kill him in a neno second. Only rikudo sennin could even contain him.
And yet Naruto is getting Riduko sennin esque powers. I wonder why.
Okay, Juju. Read my mind. I'm thinking of something.
I'll give you a hint. It's not Naruto related.
The end of Naruto is going to be me shitting all over the manga.
Look forward to it.
If it means Sasuke dies, it can't be that bad.
But then it means that sasuke would steal the show. And that's a no no, because he'd be the "hero"
and Zoro Goat swordsman.:wassat:
Those poor goats.
Okay, Juju. Read my mind. I'm thinking of something.
I'll give you a hint. It's not Naruto related.
Zoicite.
…I couldn't resist.
I know this was from a few pages ago, but it was just now pointed out to me.
Robby. I won the bet Gai just beat the shit out of Kisame. I thought Naruto and sasuke will be the only one's to fight in the future? LMAO Also expect the Kages to fight along with Neji and Lee.
So Juju, if you've won the argument and the secondary characters are finally getting screen time and accomplishing things and being of use, then please, do tell me what Kiba, Akamaru, Shino, Hinata, Kurenai, Choji, Shikimaru, Ino, Neji, Rock Lee, Ten Ten, Kankuro, Temari, Iruka, Konohamaru, Shizune, Sai, Yamato, Juugo, and Karin are going to be doing?
Will they all be blessed with incredibly short, emotionless, meaningless fights against enemies that were already killed, as Guy was?
Especially Hinata, given that she confessed her love to Naruto 80 chapters ago now and he's ignored her since then? I'm curious as to when these things will happen, now that you claim to have won the argument about the secondary characters doing anything.
And yet Naruto is getting Riduko sennin esque powers. I wonder why.
It is in his heritage, but he will never have his power. Riduko created jutsus himself. I repeat Naruto will not fight the 10 tails or beat the 10 tails. naruto is barley even capable of beating Sasuke. The 10 tails would tear him to shreds with his pinky.
It is in his heritage, but he will never have his power. Riduko created jutsus himself. I repeat Naruto will not fight the 10 tails or beat the 10 tails. naruto is barley even capable of beating Sasuke. The 10 tails would tear him to shreds with his pinky.
So Kishi is going to introduce the concept of the 10 tails aka Mewten yet will never use it since Naruto can't handle it. Sounds really stupid and some bad writing from Kishi to do something like that. But I guess I can agree with you. If it sounds dumb then it's something Kishi would do.
@robbybedfart:
I know this was from a few pages ago, but it was just now pointed out to me.
So Juju, if you've won the argument and the secondary characters are finally getting screen time and accomplishing things and being of use, then please, do tell me what Kiba, Akamaru, Shino, Hinata, Kurenai, Choji, Shikimaru, Ino, Neji, Rock Lee, Ten Ten, Kankuro, Temari, Iruka, Konohamaru, Shizune, Sai, Yamato, Juugo, and Karin are going to be doing?
Will they all be blessed with incredibly short, emotionless, meaningless fights against enemies that were already killed, as Guy was?
Especially Hinata, given that she confessed her love to Naruto 80 chapters ago now and he's ignored her since then? I'm curious as to when these things will happen, now that you claim to have won the argument about the secondary characters doing anything.
You said "NO" characters, but Sasuke and naruto would do something. Bring that quote of yours back up. I won the Bet. Get over it.
Shikiamaru gpt his time and will be leading troops in the war. He was in the room planning the leaf village point of attack with the others.
A fight doesn't need to be long to be epic robby. Kisame had information that could end up killing others. Pretty good reason to me.
Don't get mad at me for you BS cliam. You said noone. Bring the quote with no edits up
So Kishi is going to introduce the concept of the 10 tails aka Mewten yet will never use it since Naruto can't handle it. Sounds really stupid and some bad writing from Kishi to do something like that. But I guess I can agree with you. If it sounds dumb then it's something Kishi would do.
I never said the 10 tails won't appear or something like that. Naruto isn't taking on the 10 tails and beating it is wat i said. It's not happening
Of course, he won't beat it physically. He'll talk it to death after Mewten gets a ear infection.
The saddest thing about this chapter is the fact that Gai has pretty much shown us Lee's future abilities.
If all goes well Kishimoto will change Lee's finishing moves, or perhaps try and allow him to surpass Gai in some new way, though I can't imagine how at this point in time.
(not without jeopardizing Lee's life in the process)
Still its good to see someone winning using solely hand to hand combat for once.
You know, this whole "fight" is kind of funny. I mean, Gai didn't any ninjutsu, just gates and taijutsu, while Kishi still tried to make Kisame look badass with biting his own tongue off (which is really lame), and also him being surprised during this fight that he couldn't absorb Gais attack because there was no chakra being used to begin with.
It's like he's trying to force to end this fight as fast as he could. And Kisame being all like: "Oh no, my biggest weakness, people who don't use chakra during battle!"
What the hell man, the more I think about it, the worse it gets.
The tail beast will just respawn again.
How will they respawn? Where does it say in the manga that they respawn after they die? If a Tail beast dies, it's dead - which is why Kyuubi hated the fact that his survival depended on Naruto's survival. Also, if the 10 tails, their origin dies, then they will too (well, they'll already be dead when the 10 tails comes around, since they would all have to fuse or w/e in order to summon the 10 tails to begin with). The Sage of 6 paths couldn't kill the 10 tails so he split it up into 9 beasts, but if someone can kill the 10 tells, well then, the 9 beasts are pretty much dead too.
Juju. I have no idea what single post you are referring to. You find it, if you're so bent on sticking the to the letter of a single post that you yourself can't find or remember clearly, and quoting me out of context and meaning. Actually, you aren't even quoting me, you're just implying I said something that you vaguely remember off the top of your head.
As opposed to, you know, the actual ongoing context, intent and stance behind the opinion that I've held for quite some time.
My stance was, and still is, that the secondary characters aren't going to do anything of substance. Guy didn't do much, he fought for ten pages against a character that had already been killed. And I just gave you a list of 20 more MAIN characters off the top of my head, that still aren't doing anything.
Kiba, Akamaru, Shino, Hinata, Kurenai, Choji, Shikimaru, Ino, Neji, Rock Lee, Ten Ten, Kankuro, Temari, Iruka, Konohamaru, Shizune, Sai, Yamato, Juugo, Karin.
At least some of those have to do something relevant for the secondary characters to have done stuff. Guy fighting an already beaten enemy isn't giving the rest of the cast screentime, substance, emotion. Growth and development. A character appearing on panel is not the same as them doing anything or being relevant.
Hell, Guy didn't have any emotion in that fight at all, he just hosed through it like it was nothing. (But then, Naruto beat the Kyuubi like nothing, so…) That could have been Lee in the exact same fight, and it wouldn't have mattered one bit. The dialouge, tactics, and emotional resonance would have been exactly the same.
Hell, to this day, Ten Ten STILL doesn't have an on-camera fight. She's been wasted since part 1!
@iSheep:
It's like he's trying to force to end this fight as fast as he could. And Kisame being all like: "Oh no, my biggest weakness, people who don't use chakra during battle!"
What the hell man, the more I think about it, the worse it gets.
Sadly, that EXACT same setup was perfect and geared to go during the Pain conflict, where each body had their own strengths and weaknesses. Woulda been a great time for that exact same scenario.
I still don't get why Kishi made Kisame a character who prefers to die instead of giving information if the last chapter he did just that and explained how Zetsu jutsu works.
A jutsu that can be used with great affect in the war.
Can someone please explain this please.
I could explain it to you, but you wouldn't like the answer.
But I'm going to tell you anyway;
! Kishi is a godawful writer
@robbybedfart:
Hell, to this day, Ten Ten STILL doesn't have an on-camera fight. She's been wasted since part 1!
Don't you know?:
@juju14:
I don't count ten ten because she just a filler character basically. All mangas have filler characters.
She's just a filler character, robby.
How will they respawn? Where does it say in the manga that they respawn after they die? If a Tail beast dies, it's dead - which is why Kyuubi hated the fact that his survival depended on Naruto's survival. Also, if the 10 tails, their origin dies, then they will too (well, they'll already be dead when the 10 tails comes around, since they would all have to fuse or w/e in order to summon the 10 tails to begin with). The Sage of 6 paths couldn't kill the 10 tails so he split it up into 9 beasts, but if someone can kill the 10 tells, well then, the 9 beasts are pretty much dead too.
sihhh Go read what the 4th said please. They will respawn. Why do you think the 1st didn't just kill them all? well idk about the 10 tails dying. If the 10 tails die, they will probably die, but Naruto isn't strong enough to kill the 10 tails. Even rikudo(God) couldn't.
@robbybedfart:
Juju. I have no idea what single post you are referring to. You find it, if you're so bent on sticking the to the letter of a single post that you yourself can't find or remember clearly, and quoting me out of context and meaning. Actually, you aren't even quoting me, you're just implying I said something that you vaguely remember off the top of your head.
As opposed to, you know, the actual ongoing context, intent and stance behind the opinion that I've held for quite some time.
My stance was, and still is, that the secondary characters aren't going to do anything of substance. Guy didn't do much, he fought for ten pages against a character that had already been killed. And I just gave you a list of 20 more MAIN characters off the top of my head, that still aren't doing anything.
Substance. Emotion. Growth and development. A character appearing on panel is not the same as them doing anything or being relevant.
Sadly, that EXACT same setup was perfect and geared to go during the Pain conflict, where each body had their own strengths and weaknesses. Woulda been a great time for that exact same scenario.
I am not looking through your post. Your pretending to not now wat i am talking about. I had that sig on for months until i recently changed it like a week ago.
@robbybedfart:
Kiba, Akamaru, Shino, Hinata, Kurenai, Choji, Shikimaru, Ino, Neji, Rock Lee, Ten Ten, Kankuro, Temari, Iruka, Konohamaru, Shizune, Sai, Yamato, Juugo, Karin.
I, for one, would love to forget about Team Snake.
Especially Karin.
She's been chewed over more than a pitbull on a rabbit.
sihhh Go read what the 4th said please. They will respawn. Why do you think the 1st didn't just kill them all? well idk about the 10 tails dying. If the 10 tails die, they will probably die, but Naruto isn't strong enough to kill the 10 tails. Even rikudo(God) couldn't.
I am not looking through your post. Your pretending to not now wat i am talking about. I had that sig on for months until i recently changed it like a week ago.
And your sig was never an actual quote, but an estimation of a quote. Something you made up giving the gist of my stance, but not anything I actually said.
I understand what you interpreted. But it ain't what I said or meant.
Can anybody else varify this. Because somehow I'm not convinced about Juju's sourceless claim. And if he did say that, he's already explained that his obvious intent through this alleged post still remains. Main characters are completely ignored for Naruto and Sasuke.
On another note, was there any purpose to pain and his friends other than killing Jaraiya? It seems like after he was defeated nothing was really changed other than Naruto having a new dream and some new techniques.
@robbybedfart:
J
Choji, Ino
Those guys didn't do anything when their master died, I think we can forget them.
I am really getting pumped up by this big WAR! I mean 4th Shinobi war! How amazing is that!
We got Faildara,Saske,Zetsu and couple corpses vs God Naruto, Hachibi, 5x Kages, 5 ninja villages and their armies, rookie 9 and Konohamaru!
Its going to be so epic! Luckily God Naruto with his sage,kyubi and Sage of six paths modes are protecting us from such a deadly foes!
I am really getting pumped up by this big WAR! I mean 4th Shinobi war! How amazing is that!
We got Faildara,Saske,Zetsu and couple corpses vs God Naruto, Hachibi, 5x Kages, 5 ninja villages and their armies, rookie 9 and Konohamaru!
Its going to be so epic! Luckily God Naruto with his sage,kyubi and Sage of six paths modes are protecting us from such a deadly foes!
I'm looking forward to Naruto fighting the 10 tails after the Kyuubi is extracted and he survives somehow. (though maybe the out, and fatal weakness for the ten tails, will be in fact that Naruto only has half the fox's chakra.)
@Robo:
Can anybody else varify this. Because somehow I'm not convinced about Juju's sourceless claim. And if he did say that, he's already explained that his obvious intent through this alleged post still remains. Main characters are completely ignored for Naruto and Sasuke.
On another note, was there any purpose to pain and his friends other than killing Jaraiya? It seems like after he was defeated nothing was really changed other than Naruto having a new dream and some new techniques.
Not worth the effort of hunting. Juju doesn't understand sarcasm, context, or storytelling (look at his repeated defense of Sasuke not being out of chakra against Deidara) and can't tell the difference between when we're throwing around stupid theories for fun, and when we're having serious discussion about what we actually think will come next. (But we did predict the 10 tails in the moon a year before Kishi revealed it. And that WAS a joke… sad that it came true.)
I know what he thinks I said, and I know what I personally think. And my stance isn't and never has been the extreme he's taking it to, even if he does find a single out of context quote out of 4000 posts to try and give himself a victory over a stance I never had.
@Zender:
The saddest thing about this chapter is the fact that Gai has pretty much shown us Lee's future abilities.
If all goes well Kishimoto will change Lee's finishing moves, or perhaps try and allow him to surpass Gai in some new way, though I can't imagine how at this point in time.
(not without jeopardizing Lee's life in the process)
Yeah that suck but I dont see Lee doing anything relevant in the rest of the manga. I'm hoping for best but fearing the worst.
@robbybedfart:
And your sig was never an actual quote, but an estimation of a quote. Something you made up giving the gist of my stance, but not anything I actually said.
I understand what you interpreted. But it ain't what I said or meant.
LMAO I asked you when i made the damn quote and u agreed to the terms. Stop ur BS. It wouldn't be a bet if you didn't agree to the terms. I should of bookmark that page. I didn't expect you to lie out of your ass.
@robbybedfart:
I'm looking forward to Naruto fighting the 10 tails after the Kyuubi is extracted and he survives somehow. (though maybe the out, and fatal weakness for the ten tails, will be in fact that Naruto only has half the fox's chakra.)
Flashback already answered that pretty much.
The Uzumakis have special chakra or something that will let him live a bit afterwards. All he needs is a special healer like a certain somebody should have been brought to instead of an isolated area like an idiot.
LMAO I asked you when i made the damn quote and u agreed to the terms. Stop ur BS. It wouldn't be a bet if you didn't agree to the terms. I should of bookmark that page. I didn't expect you to lie out of your ass.
And when the secondary characterS, plural, do something beyond fighting fodder, there will be room for discussion.
Did we really have a bet? What were the terms? I really can't believe I'd agree to a bet based on a broad statement without specifics nailed down, but if you insist I did, I don't claim to remember the exact wording of every post I've ever made.
Did I say something along the lines of "The secondary characters will never do anything important again, and you can quote me on that?" Something like that? That's… not a bet.
But hey, if you find the post you're thinking of, and you can call me out based on a line of literal out of context text, instead of the opinion behind it, that's totally fair.
I dont see Lee doing anything relevant in the rest of the manga.
Lalalala…im not listening...lalalalala..
covers ears & closes eyes
Edit: Lol at Robby the spindoctor.
Robby Varsssuuuussss Juju fourteeeen
Lound Wan Vundred Ninteen
DEBATH!!
(read this with BlazBlue announcer voice)
I don't see "insert character here besides Naruto,Sasuke and Madara" doing anything relevant in the rest of the manga.
Who said 2010 was Kakashi's year again ? :wassat:
@robbybedfart:
I'm looking forward to Naruto fighting the 10 tails after the Kyuubi is extracted and he survives somehow. (though maybe the out, and fatal weakness for the ten tails, will be in fact that Naruto only has half the fox's chakra.)
It's not like Madara is going to succeed in his plan now that we got lightbulb naruto, he is going to light a new way for madara or something like that.
@robbybedfart:
And when the secondary characterS, plural, do something beyond fighting fodder, there will be room for discussion.
Did we really have a bet? What were the terms? I really can't believe I'd agree to a bet based on a broad statement without specifics nailed down, but if you insist I did, I don't claim to remember the exact wording of every post I've ever made.
Did I say something along the lines of "The secondary characters will never do anything important again, and you can quote me on that?" Something like that? That's… not a bet.
But hey, if you find the post you're thinking of, and you can call me out based on a line of literal out of context text, instead of the opinion behind it, that's totally fair.
Its not that serious to go read through a 1000 posts to find. Is their a way to dig up past sigs?
robby can I be your personal cheerleader?
robby can I be your personal cheerleader?
Robby…
You sly dog you.
Wait.
Ignore that pun >.
@robbybedfart:
I'm looking forward to Naruto fighting the 10 tails after the Kyuubi is extracted and he survives somehow. (though maybe the out, and fatal weakness for the ten tails, will be in fact that Naruto only has half the fox's chakra.)
Not worth the effort of hunting. Juju doesn't understand sarcasm, context, or storytelling (look at his repeated defense of Sasuke not being out of chakra against Deidara) and can't tell the difference between when we're throwing around stupid theories for fun, and when we're having serious discussion about what we actually think will come next. (But we did predict the 10 tails in the moon a year before Kishi revealed it. And that WAS a joke… sad that it came true.)
I know what he thinks I said, and I know what I personally think. And my stance isn't and never has been the extreme he's taking it to, even if he does find a single out of context quote out of 4000 posts to try and give himself a victory over a stance I never had.
How was Sasuke out of chakra?? I defend it because you still haven't prove anything yet. I repeatly said Kisame wasn't dead and Jman is dead. You then brought up that you do guess somethings in Naruto about the 10 tails.
@Zender:
Lalalala…im not listening...lalalalala..
covers ears & closes eyes
Son, you have to accept the truth someday. You have to put your weewee inside a woman to make babies.
robby can I be your personal cheerleader?
ohhh i see you like what he is giving to you. good job
robby can I be your personal cheerleader?
Double takes
I'm beginning to think that she likes this place.
A shame that when Naruto ends, she'll probably have no reason to come here anymore.
Am I the only one who sees Robby's face on Gabs' avatar? Over the male part?
EDIT: Oh, I see.
He's using Chrissie's cookies to get to you.
Robby, it's been nice knowing you.
Its not that serious to go read through a 1000 posts to find. Is their a way to dig up past sigs?
Okay Juju. Since we both agree that hunting through a whole mess of posts to try and find something that may or may not exist is pointless, and you always fail to grasp the distinction between the joke posts and the serious ones (and balk at any evidence presented to you like a brick wall) and I maintain my stance isn't what you interpret it as anyway and you really want to but heads about different interpretations of the plot… how about this.
I say this, in all seriousness, no joking. You can quote on this, bookmark it, we can make an actual full fledged bet with witnesses, no leeway, no vaugue interpretations that apply to a broader theme or opinion. Just, exactly to the letter what I'm saying right now.
"By series end, if Masashi Kishimoto has any quality as a writer at all remaining to him in terms of story structure and foreshadowing, the Ten Tails will be an opponent that the cast of Naruto has to defeat."
You think they won't be fighting it, right?
robby can I be your personal cheerleader?
If you like. I'm at about my Juju tolerance limit for the day though. I usually limit my intake to no more than three posts.
In the meantime, enjoy this letter from Kishimoto himself I found a few threads back.
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Kishimoto here. I see that this forum dedicated to my brilliant work is about to reach 10,000 posts, so I thought I would grace you with the ending to my tale, as a surprise sneak peak!
After Rock Lee's horrible pointless death, Hinata marrying Kiba who has lover her all along, and Sakura, Naruto and Glossy black have an amazing 38-some using jutsu clones and gender switching, as well as Naruto and Sasuke's epic final battle against the 11 tailed Beast hidden boss that was sealed into the planet Mars, a bloodied and dying Naruto climbs to the top of a mountain to find the source of it all. The greatest mountain ever, tens of feet high. And upon reaching the ninja summit (no relation to the pirate summit) he will see a message inscribed into the ground by God himself, so large and of such a scale that it can only be seen from the highest peak. ANd that message, to both him, and you, dear readers, shall be this.
"SORRY FOR THE INCONVENIANCE".[/hide]
@Cuddles:
Am I the only one who sees Robby's face on Gabs' avatar? Over the male part?
Zelgadis IS one of my favorite characters ever, but I don't see much resemblance to Bobart.