The 'confirmation of a time-skip' in an interview was.
"Luffy's Last Adventure As A 17 Year-Old"
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I didn't know Dragonball invented the concept of timeskips.
That just shows how stupid you've been.
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I apologize for my ignorance.
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the worst thing abuot a time skip is it'll be an instant progression to super powers like DBZ.
Considering we aren't even licking the feet of the speed and strength of late Dragonball, what the fuck are you talking about.
We've already seen the power heights of One Piece. Whitebeard and the like.
Why the fuck would a simple timeskip make Luffy a fucking DBZ character.
How inane can an arguement get?So we wont get used to the power growths and will get DBZ style clashes which to me were incredibly boring and winded.
You've never read DB/Z have you.
I mean you apparently have no idea how many timeskips were in Dragonball.
It was six of varying lengths.
Two of them coming before the series got really super powered.So not only is suggesting OP will be like Dragonball with timeskips, but Dragonball itself isn't even like that.
I hope we don't get the time skip. He'll basically be writing what he could be writing now with too many large explosions… no more interactive group fights =/.
Alright, this is literally the stupidest post ever made on the subject of timeskips. I wish I could include a bitchsmack in this post. Come on son.
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Also Greg is mad this week for some reason, and you just made fun of Dragonball.
Make your time.
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@Badass:
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What the hell are those?
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I think if at all the timeskip with just jump to about here.
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Oda seems to have properly timed it, and could easily tie it in. omahgawd, between robin, luffy, and chopper I wouldn't know who to sex first.
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@Superbear:
What the hell are those?
Those are called smilies.
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so does that mean that the movie is canon and happens after the current manga arc?
well, a time skip is the most logical thing for me regarding luffy and the circumstances he's in right now in the manga
at the end of the movie, you can see how nami's log pose points to gyogin island
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at the end of the movie, you can see how nami's log pose points to gyogin island
Since I haven't seen the movie yet allow me a question. Does the Log Pose do so in the sky or in the blue sea?
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@ Ivotas
Log Pose My Ass! Btw, Did You Finally Take Some Viagra? -
I'm wondering who's the poor master of this blatant troll?
Edit: Oh! …
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Is Luffy the lovable-idiot we thought he was? I've always taken Luffy to be a pretty easy to understand character until now. Not unpersuasive mind you, but easy to understand: Meat, Pirate, King, and yes, Nakama. The recent information with Sabo and Ace made me rethink that though, as well as some side reading. My thoughts are, and I might be giving Oda too much credit, is that he had been leaning on Ace all this time.
What I mean is that since Ace's promise not to die, Luffy's been easy-going. This was seen throughout the journey on him commenting how strong Ace was, and that he didn't want to interfere with his adventures, Ace would only get mad at him. In his fights, he didn't really worry about losing or anything, the memory of his older brother always was present in his mind. He wasn't alone in this world, he had Ace, and Ace was strong, really strong. That's why he is so immature, Luffy feels like he should act the role of the "younger brother", being a kid with no worries is okay, he has a strong older brother out there in the world to rely on. It wasn't that Luffy needed Ace physically, but mentally Ace's pressence, the thought that Ace was somewhere out there gave Luffy the security he needed. Now with the sense of security is gone, the Luffy we know is lost.
I say the Luffy we know because we don't know the real Luffy. Only Oda knows the real Luffy. And the interpretation I think that is most exciting is that Luffy has not been himself. Ace actually acted as a barrier to Luffy. Ace had to die, if Ace didn't die, Luffy would've been a "little-brother" his entire life. He would've been depending on a mental image of Ace from his childhood keeping his promise. And this is why Luffy kept all of the promises he makes for people. It's that important to him. The promise needs to be kept, his mentallity needed it. With Ace dead, Luffy gets to be a true individual. A lot of the posters recently has alluded to age, that at a certain age people mature. This is why I think Oda killed of Ace, he is forcing Luffy to mature more quickly and in so doing revert to his true nature, that is, a person who can carry the will of Roger, the will of D.
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Is Luffy the lovable-idiot we thought he was? I've always taken Luffy to be a pretty easy to understand character until now. Not unpersuasive mind you, but easy to understand: Meat, Pirate, King, and yes, Nakama. The recent information with Sabo and Ace made me rethink that though, as well as some side reading. My thoughts are, and I might be giving Oda too much credit, is that he had been leaning on Ace all this time.
What I mean is that since Ace's promise not to die, Luffy's been easy-going. This was seen throughout the journey on him commenting how strong Ace was, and that he didn't want to interfere with his adventures, Ace would only get mad at him. In his fights, he didn't really worry about losing or anything, the memory of his older brother always was present in his mind. He wasn't alone in this world, he had Ace, and Ace was strong, really strong. That's why he is so immature, Luffy feels like he should act the role of the "younger brother", being a kid with no worries is okay, he has a strong older brother out there in the world to rely on. It wasn't that Luffy needed Ace physically, but mentally Ace's pressence, the thought that Ace was somewhere out there gave Luffy the security he needed. Now with the sense of security is gone, the Luffy we know is lost.
I say the Luffy we know because we don't know the real Luffy. Only Oda knows the real Luffy. And the interpretation I think that is most exciting is that Luffy has not been himself. Ace actually acted as a barrier to Luffy. Ace had to die, if Ace didn't die, Luffy would've been a "little-brother" his entire life. He would've been depending on a mental image of Ace from his childhood keeping his promise. And this is why Luffy kept all of the promises he makes for people. It's that important to him. The promise needs to be kept, his mentallity needed it. With Ace dead, Luffy gets to be a true individual. A lot of the posters recently has alluded to age, that at a certain age people mature. This is why I think Oda killed of Ace, he is forcing Luffy to mature more quickly and in so doing revert to his true nature, that is, a person who can carry the will of Roger, the will of D.
You have inspired me to make a comic where One Piece fans meet Luffy and try to be freinds with him. While you think ohh he'll never do anything wrong the lovable idiot. he stills all your money behind your back
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It's been this way for awhile, he always seems simple and like a direct vehicle for our view.
But then he turns around and goes YEAH ME GRAMPS IS THE KING OF ADMIRALS
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Is Luffy the lovable-idiot we thought he was? I've always taken Luffy to be a pretty easy to understand character until now. Not unpersuasive mind you, but easy to understand: Meat, Pirate, King, and yes, Nakama. The recent information with Sabo and Ace made me rethink that though, as well as some side reading. My thoughts are, and I might be giving Oda too much credit, is that he had been leaning on Ace all this time.
What I mean is that since Ace's promise not to die, Luffy's been easy-going. This was seen throughout the journey on him commenting how strong Ace was, and that he didn't want to interfere with his adventures, Ace would only get mad at him. In his fights, he didn't really worry about losing or anything, the memory of his older brother always was present in his mind. He wasn't alone in this world, he had Ace, and Ace was strong, really strong. That's why he is so immature, Luffy feels like he should act the role of the "younger brother", being a kid with no worries is okay, he has a strong older brother out there in the world to rely on. It wasn't that Luffy needed Ace physically, but mentally Ace's pressence, the thought that Ace was somewhere out there gave Luffy the security he needed. Now with the sense of security is gone, the Luffy we know is lost.
I say the Luffy we know because we don't know the real Luffy. Only Oda knows the real Luffy. And the interpretation I think that is most exciting is that Luffy has not been himself. Ace actually acted as a barrier to Luffy. Ace had to die, if Ace didn't die, Luffy would've been a "little-brother" his entire life. He would've been depending on a mental image of Ace from his childhood keeping his promise. And this is why Luffy kept all of the promises he makes for people. It's that important to him. The promise needs to be kept, his mentallity needed it. With Ace dead, Luffy gets to be a true individual. A lot of the posters recently has alluded to age, that at a certain age people mature. This is why I think Oda killed of Ace, he is forcing Luffy to mature more quickly and in so doing revert to his true nature, that is, a person who can carry the will of Roger, the will of D.
Quite a bit of a solid point there. I always thought it was odd how Luffy as he appeared in chapter #1 seemed to be wired a different way from how he acted in the main story. He seemed a bit more sharp there, but also a lot more weak (in both spirit and body). I suppose from here on out, we'll see something closer to that chapter #1 mindset, assuming we can count on what you say.
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Is Luffy the lovable-idiot we thought he was? I've always taken Luffy to be a pretty easy to understand character until now. Not unpersuasive mind you, but easy to understand: Meat, Pirate, King, and yes, Nakama. The recent information with Sabo and Ace made me rethink that though, as well as some side reading. My thoughts are, and I might be giving Oda too much credit, is that he had been leaning on Ace all this time.
What I mean is that since Ace's promise not to die, Luffy's been easy-going. This was seen throughout the journey on him commenting how strong Ace was, and that he didn't want to interfere with his adventures, Ace would only get mad at him. In his fights, he didn't really worry about losing or anything, the memory of his older brother always was present in his mind. He wasn't alone in this world, he had Ace, and Ace was strong, really strong. That's why he is so immature, Luffy feels like he should act the role of the "younger brother", being a kid with no worries is okay, he has a strong older brother out there in the world to rely on. It wasn't that Luffy needed Ace physically, but mentally Ace's pressence, the thought that Ace was somewhere out there gave Luffy the security he needed. Now with the sense of security is gone, the Luffy we know is lost.
I say the Luffy we know because we don't know the real Luffy. Only Oda knows the real Luffy. And the interpretation I think that is most exciting is that Luffy has not been himself. Ace actually acted as a barrier to Luffy. Ace had to die, if Ace didn't die, Luffy would've been a "little-brother" his entire life. He would've been depending on a mental image of Ace from his childhood keeping his promise. And this is why Luffy kept all of the promises he makes for people. It's that important to him. The promise needs to be kept, his mentallity needed it. With Ace dead, Luffy gets to be a true individual. A lot of the posters recently has alluded to age, that at a certain age people mature. This is why I think Oda killed of Ace, he is forcing Luffy to mature more quickly and in so doing revert to his true nature, that is, a person who can carry the will of Roger, the will of D.
While I do think that Luffy was a bit…Kiddish, I don't think that he completely mentally relied on Ace. You said Luffy would've been "little brother" his whole life without Ace dying. Luffy is...Luffy, I don't think that he has been the "little brother" when we've seen him. Luffy isn't the kind of person to act like he always has a big brother rely on. As seen in Enies Lobby he created the Gears, so he could protect his crew. He knows that he has to be strong to protect his friends, and Ace too. In Thriller Bark when he saw Ace's Vivre Card, he just said "oh yea, Ace is in deep shit, but he's Ace, He wants to do his own thing, and he might need my help, but he'd get pissed"
The thing now is something that I think has been leading up to. After the Aokiji incident, Luffy began to realize that despite his hardships as a child, he can't stop advancing if he wants to protect what he loves. He created the Gears and saved Robin. Now he lost his crew, and even despite that, he said "There my crew, but I know them, there strong in there own right, and even though we lost, and aren't together, Ace needs me now, and they will survive". Luffy made that decision, and Ace died, and in Luffy's eye: He failed again. He failed to save his crew, and now he failed to save Ace.
The crew and Ace are the two things most important to him. I think it's quite obvious that he could careless about his dream if it means his friends and brother could die, He ran straight into Marineford despite the fact that he was told that he would be like an ant in a storm.
Right now Luffy doesn't think he's strong enough to be the Pirate King. He couldn't even save 8 friends and his older brother. What I think is gonna happen now, is he's gonna get a wake up call. I think this will be a marine fleet with Pacifista's coming to attack Boa Hancock for her actions at Marineford, and to destroy the Kuja. Luffy will help defend Amazon Lilly when Hancock is in danger, and discover Ambition. He will begin to learn that he has these powers, train them, and become stronger.
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@JERK:
18 isn't the last jump one makes in life.
And it certainly isn't a jump into adulthood.
18 year olds are just independent teenagers. Not men and women.I don't know.
Based on what Sabo said, I think we can assume 18 is the standard age in O-P where a boy is officially a man. -
You have inspired me to make a comic where One Piece fans meet Luffy and try to be freinds with him. While you think ohh he'll never do anything wrong the lovable idiot. he stills all your money behind your back
Sorry, lol, I think I may have gotten too rhetorical towards the end.
@Yuugi's:
Quite a bit of a solid point there. I always thought it was odd how Luffy as he appeared in chapter #1 seemed to be wired a different way from how he acted in the main story. He seemed a bit more sharp there, but also a lot more weak (in both spirit and body). I suppose from here on out, we'll see something closer to that chapter #1 mindset, assuming we can count on what you say.
Please don't count on it because I'm highly skeptical of what I said. That's why I wrote it would be giving Oda too much credit, because it would mean he had this sort of multi-layered character planned out from the very beginning. I might eat these words later, but I think honestly that development of this kind would be unexpected from a Shonen manga. Though again, he is willing to show depth nearing this level with Usopp in Water 7.
@mdmartin101:
While I do think that Luffy was a bit…Kiddish, I don't think that he completely mentally relied on Ace. You said Luffy would've been "little brother" his whole life without Ace dying. Luffy is...Luffy, I don't think that he has been the "little brother" when we've seen him. Luffy isn't the kind of person to act like he always has a big brother rely on. As seen in Enies Lobby he created the Gears, so he could protect his crew. He knows that he has to be strong to protect his friends, and Ace too. In Thriller Bark when he saw Ace's Vivre Card, he just said "oh yea, Ace is in deep shit, but he's Ace, He wants to do his own thing, and he might need my help, but he'd get pissed"
The thing now is something that I think has been leading up to. After the Aokiji incident, Luffy began to realize that despite his hardships as a child, he can't stop advancing if he wants to protect what he loves. He created the Gears and saved Robin. Now he lost his crew, and even despite that, he said "There my crew, but I know them, there strong in there own right, and even though we lost, and aren't together, Ace needs me now, and they will survive". Luffy made that decision, and Ace died, and in Luffy's eye: He failed again. He failed to save his crew, and now he failed to save Ace.
The crew and Ace are the two things most important to him. I think it's quite obvious that he could careless about his dream if it means his friends and brother could die, He ran straight into Marineford despite the fact that he was told that he would be like an ant in a storm.
Right now Luffy doesn't think he's strong enough to be the Pirate King. He couldn't even save 8 friends and his older brother. What I think is gonna happen now, is he's gonna get a wake up call. I think this will be a marine fleet with Pacifista's coming to attack Boa Hancock for her actions at Marineford, and to destroy the Kuja. Luffy will help defend Amazon Lilly when Hancock is in danger, and discover Ambition. He will begin to learn that he has these powers, train them, and become stronger.
You give a credible explanation of Luffy, especially the part with Robin and the development of the gears. Again, this is why I wrote it may be giving Oda too much credit. While I think you explained Luffy's motivation on a lower level to the events which are taking place right now, I attempted to juxtapose his mental condition through the entire length of the journey thus far.
When you write "Luffy is… Luffy", I remember the distinction I made between the Luffy we have seen in the work, and the Luffy Oda hasn't shown us. This is the area of indeterminacy that I'm interested in, what has Oda kept from us about Luffy? However, again, I think and feel you are correct because expecting a level of depth of characterization of this kind would not be in keeping with the works of this genre and medium.
The last paragraph bothers me a bit. It bothers me because it's getting awfully close to equating character progression with "power-ups". The kind of progression I'm talking about doesn't have to do with powers, but the character's mentality. This is why I talked about what would be an interesting development for Luffy's character. I know I'm not alone when I say that what makes Luffy more interesting would not be him developing a new haki tool and somehow alleviating all of his troubles, but him coming to a new realization about his role in the world and what his past really meant to him, to a show real fundamental change or re-awakening in his character.
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Since I haven't seen the movie yet allow me a question. Does the Log Pose do so in the sky or in the blue sea?
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blue sea :o
I think the movie takes place after Thriller Bark and before Sabaody Archipelago.As it currently stands, the movie can't fit into cannon due some stuff Sengoku says.
If Oda ever officially says it fits… then it does. Until then, its just a movie.
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@robbybedfart:
As it currently stands, the movie can't fit into cannon due some stuff Sengoku says.
If Oda ever officially says it fits… then it does. Until then, its just a movie.
I've not seen the movie as well, but what does Sengoku says?
I think the best moment to place the movie is after Thriller Bark and before the crew reaches Red Line again. However, in the manga Brook says, in the Flying Fish Riders fight, that that was his first battle as a member of the Strawhat crew…
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@robbybedfart:
As it currently stands, the movie can't fit into cannon due some stuff Sengoku says.
If Oda ever officially says it fits… then it does. Until then, its just a movie.
I'm taking it as just a movie anyway, but I'm curious what Sengoku says that screws it fitting in with continuity hasn't seen it yet
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In romance dawn shanks is seen to be happy go lucky like luffy is however when we next see him he is meen looking and very calm with a better understanding of life(the possibility he also lost close crew members). luffy will most likey mature in this much awaited time skip and become more serious also notice how serious Dragon is compared to the rest of luffys family he oviously knows a lot about the world and wants to change it,not to meen luffy will never crack jokes again he will just take this pirate king thing much more serious and how many people have said he will no longer be the younger brother anymore and he needs to get stronger, personaly i think eaither boa or silvers will train him to use haki effectivily,
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I've not seen the movie as well, but what does Sengoku says?
I dunno the line and I don't feel like looking it up, but Greg has been pretty adamant about the point when asked about it.
As he has actually seen the movie and is the huge OP freak he is… I'll take his word on it.
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Actually it's what he doesn't say. He doesn't mention SHIT about Luffy and the war.
Not to mention Marineford still exists.
The reason it can't happen before is because Oda said it was his 'last adventure as a 17 year old' but the chapter last labeled with 'adventure' was in ID there's NO WAY IN SHIT you can tell me it happened after either of those. So unless Luffy turned 18 after TB and before Sabaody(sp) it doesn't work out.
Of course I've always maintained that the movie could be canon IN AN INSTANT if Oda's like, "Yeah uh, I intended it to be and here's where it happened."
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Oda said it was his 'last adventure as a 17 year old' but the chapter last labeled with 'adventure' was in ID.
The Flying Fish Riders mini-arc all the way to Marineford is one big adventure though; it's a saga, so it will have multiple arcs, but that doesn't make them all contained adventures. At the very least, ID + Marineford would definitely be a single adventure spanning two separate locations. Isn't it more likely Oda simply meant that, for the viewers (us), the movie and the war saga would be Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year old? As in real world time, not in-world continuity time?
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The Flying Fish Riders mini-arc all the way to Marineford is one big adventure though; it's a saga, so it will have multiple arcs, but that doesn't make them all contained adventures. At the very least, ID + Marineford would definitely be a single adventure spanning two separate locations.
I'm not talking about our reader constructed or derived naming conventions.
I'm talking about his chapter/arc naming pattern.
As in "Adventure in/on …." series.
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I'm not talking about our reader constructed or derived naming conventions. As in "Adventure in/on …." series.
I wasn't talking about a naming convention at all, I was talking about Oda possibly referring to the current running adventure in the manga (and anime) and the adventure from the movie being the last Luffy would have as a 17 year old for us, the readers. Basically, they are the last adventures we will see Luffy have as a 17 year old; the next new adventure will be Luffy 18+ or whatever. The point was that by viewing them both as separate entities, Oda can simply be referring to the last (new) adventure we will be seeing.
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Yeah, the original phrase definitely doesn't have that nuance or perspective. Last is last there.
なお今回のお話がルフィの”17歳最後の冒険”となります。
This time the story will be Luffy's 'final adventure as a 17-year old'.
Now let's give it the benefit of the doubt and say it was from the perspective of the readers (which it doesn't give that vibe). Why would he use that term when it flies in the faces of his other named chapters causing confusion?
Furthermore let's just assume for arguments' sake that was the case.
During the war there's no mention made of Luffy having defeated Shiki and saving the Marine's asses, something that even Sengoku has a facepalm moment over at the end of the film.
But the clicher is during ID.
Sengoku gives the speech about Shiki WHILE he knows Luffy is in ID and knows Luffy's crimes.
And yet he completely fails to mention Luffy beating his ass down just days earlier and saving the world?
Really?
I can totally accept no blatant mention of a character that's been dead for a decade in a handful of panels with Woop Slap, but that?
Nope.
SW didn't happen until Oda says when and why.
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Is Luffy the lovable-idiot we thought he was? I've always taken Luffy to be a pretty easy to understand character until now. Not unpersuasive mind you, but easy to understand: Meat, Pirate, King, and yes, Nakama. The recent information with Sabo and Ace made me rethink that though, as well as some side reading. My thoughts are, and I might be giving Oda too much credit, is that he had been leaning on Ace all this time.
What I mean is that since Ace's promise not to die, Luffy's been easy-going. This was seen throughout the journey on him commenting how strong Ace was, and that he didn't want to interfere with his adventures, Ace would only get mad at him. In his fights, he didn't really worry about losing or anything, the memory of his older brother always was present in his mind. He wasn't alone in this world, he had Ace, and Ace was strong, really strong. That's why he is so immature, Luffy feels like he should act the role of the "younger brother", being a kid with no worries is okay, he has a strong older brother out there in the world to rely on. It wasn't that Luffy needed Ace physically, but mentally Ace's pressence, the thought that Ace was somewhere out there gave Luffy the security he needed. Now with the sense of security is gone, the Luffy we know is lost.
I say the Luffy we know because we don't know the real Luffy. Only Oda knows the real Luffy. And the interpretation I think that is most exciting is that Luffy has not been himself. Ace actually acted as a barrier to Luffy. Ace had to die, if Ace didn't die, Luffy would've been a "little-brother" his entire life. He would've been depending on a mental image of Ace from his childhood keeping his promise. And this is why Luffy kept all of the promises he makes for people. It's that important to him. The promise needs to be kept, his mentallity needed it. With Ace dead, Luffy gets to be a true individual. A lot of the posters recently has alluded to age, that at a certain age people mature. This is why I think Oda killed of Ace, he is forcing Luffy to mature more quickly and in so doing revert to his true nature, that is, a person who can carry the will of Roger, the will of D.
Interesting point, though rather than saying he wasn't being himself it might be more appropriate to say that he's developing underlying aspects of his personality. Luffy truly did idolize Ace, and I'd say more so than he does Shanks from what I've seen in this recent flashback. Shanks gave him his goal, but Ace's back was the one was always staring at. Being the youngest and weakest at the time, I'd say that as Luffy was growing up he always gauged his own strength against Ace's. With Ace dead his form of measure is gone and he no longer knows where he stands.
I think Luffy's beginning to see the reality behind what stands between him and his dream and his confidence is shaken. Yes, he and his crew are strong - there's was really no reason for him to think otherwise with so few loses so far in their journey. Up til this point he's probably always thought "Okay, all we have to do is be strong and nothing can stop us," but seeing that Ace, who's always been so much stronger than him, can die, what does that mean for himself? He's beginning to realize that there's a considerable amount at stake for him to lose and that he has to rethink himself and his views. I'm not saying we're going to see this giant 180 in Luffy's character but he's going to have to rebuild his self-confidence before we see him again like we've seen in the last 50+ volumes.
While I don't think a time-skip is going to happen, if we go by what Sabo said about "noble men are truly called noble men when they're 18", I think we can apply that in a figurative sense to all in OP. If Luffy has a birthday soon, this was his last adventure as knew him - carefree and easy going. What sort of man will Luffy attempt to be from here on out?
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SW didn't happen until Oda says when and why.
I think you are still misunderstanding me somehow, somewhere. With what I was suggesting, continuity is irrelevant. For the fans, Movie 10 (SW) was released after, long after, the 'save Ace' adventure began, therefore it (the movie) would be the last new adventure for us while he is depicted as the 17 year old version of himself. "something that will hold true for both the comic and the anime" […] "This time the story will be Luffy's 'final adventure as a 17-year old'" […] "So this [movie] is something I want you to burn into your memories".
Rather than, "This is the last adventure Luffy has before he turns 18 in the One Piece world", it could be, "this is the last adventure of 17-year-old-Luffy's that I will show you". Since he was addressing the readers, not the story's time-line, continuity wouldn't matter. At the time of his statements, the manga's "adventure" was already underway, so the movie would be the final (new, contained) adventure we would see, and therefore we should burn it into our minds.
Edit: Just a reminder, my original post was a suggestion/question, and I am simply trying to make that particular suggestion/question clear, since it doesn't seem like you understood.
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^So you're saying it would be the last OP movie Oda has a hand in or last OP movie altogether?
If not I'm not sure what difference you're making between last adventure for 17 year old Luffy in regards to the manga and anime and last adventure before he turns 18 in the OP world.
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@Zik:
^So you're saying it would be the last OP movie Oda has a hand in or last OP movie altogether?
If not I'm not sure what difference you're making between last adventure for 17 year old Luffy in regards to the manga and anime and last adventure before he turns 18 in the OP world.
I think he's saying that this is technically the last adventure of the 17 yr old version of Luffy since the MHQ/ID saga was already underway in the manga before SW released in theaters.
Anyway I still feel that a timeskip is coming soon.
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I understand what you were trying to say but it seemed like such an elementary concept and I thought you were trying to say something profound. Yes, I would and do agree that Oda could have meant it unrelated to continuity. But I thought that was kinda an unspoken understanding.
As it stands though he could turn around in an SBS and say, "It happened here.", and that'd be that despite what we've taken from his statement.
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It seemed like such an elementary concept and I thought you were trying to say something profound. I thought that was kinda an unspoken understanding.
"Isn't it more likely Oda simply meant" …I never meant for it to be anything but simple; I always figured it was obvious the movie wasn't canon, and fit between TB and SA, character development-wise. The "final" bit of the quote is unrelated to story continuity, since it is directed to the fans. Again, I wasn't trying to make a point, I was just asking a question.
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I just thought up something really annoying, which could mean that Luffy can stay as a 17-year-old for a while.
I just realised this last night, so I haven't had much time to think about it.
But… Would you think it's possible that Strong World sort of happens in the future?
(For some reason I'm not able to get the rest of my thoughts into words. I'll try again later.)
It sounds very unlikely, but better that some of the theories I've thought. It might be completely impossible, but as I said, I haven't thought about all the parts in this.
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I see a couple of options:
-First one is, there will be a timeskip on undetermined length. The "news" is related to reason for this timeskip, or will the "news" will be part of the chain of events that lead to this reason for timeskip.
-Second option is that the "last adventure as 17-year old" is kind of a figure of speech. The growth may not be physical, but mental. This tragedy will lead to Luffy growing as a person, which would make him "older than his age".–
The reason why I think it's the option #2 is that the other supernovas don't seem very keen on waiting around: they and several others are rushing straight into the New World.
Waiting for a long time in real life would give Luffys rivals a very big head start...unless they also will start bashing their heads against walls of some sort.
On other hand..the Yonkou have been in there for years and none of them are exacly the pirate kings or One Piece owners.. maybe they really haven't found the treasure yet in which case it takes insanely long -> Luffy HAS TIME to wait for possibly years.
....or the Yonkou have done "Whitebeards" and just don't care about the whole thing. In which case giving a head start would be bad.
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And here we are 8 months later. This wraps up his mystery line, why he kept his mouth shut at JF and why we're seeing two characters each week romp with animals instead of awesome side-stories.
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And here we are 8 months later. This wraps up his mystery line, why he kept his mouth shut at JF and why we're seeing two characters each week romp with animals instead of awesome side-stories.
Did i miss something? as far as i know when did SW happen its unkown still o.O
Or you meant about luffy being 17?Cause the last page of this thread had almost nothing to do with the first
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This has nothing to do with Strong World.
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This has nothing to do with Strong World.
Greg you've been gone too long. Strong World is canon because Oda wrote it.
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This has nothing to do with Strong World.
yeah assumed that yu were talking about luffy being 17… but well the last page of this thread was talking about SW, could be a demi-necro post regarding the SW timing
But as how it looks... a few months will go before they meet again, and SW movie seems to fit just before getting to fishman i guess?
Though its hard to fit SW into the arcs... while oda did write it... may be an what if style? im unsure cause well cannon wise shiki IS out there doing something...
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Greg you've been gone too long. Strong World is canon because Oda wrote it.
Oh that's right, my bad.
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Greg said that since the last chap confirmed what the title says (i.e. time skip) and he's the main reason this thread exists.
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While Strong World is canon, I don't think even Oda knows when it took place.
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While Strong World is canon, I don't think even Oda knows when it took place.
well it would have to take place before shabondy and after thriller bark.
due to us having brook and before the time skip and seperation. (if time skip happens)
has to be before time skip since otherwise it wouldn't be 20 years later and would be some other years later and would cause plot holes in that sense.
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well it would have to take place before shabondy and after thriller bark.
due to us having brook and before the time skip and seperation. (if time skip happens)
has to be before time skip since otherwise it wouldn't be 20 years later and would be some other years later and would cause plot holes in that sense.
Well yeah it only makes sense it wasn't 20 years later or in the NW or something like that. I'm just saying that Oda didn't have a specific time in is head when he wrote the story.
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This has nothing to do with Strong World.
Also you should be aware. Timeskips are evil because that one Dragonball had ruined everything.
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@robbybedfart:
Also you should be aware. Timeskips are evil because that one Dragonball had ruined everything.
Aww, Rhydian, I like Dragon Ball Z. Sure Dragonball was great, and at its best, but I liked Z or part 2 too.
I wonder what made Toriyama decide to branch out into the whole Space thing though?Though I grew up loving Z so I'm porbably biased on nostalgia