Absolutely fantastic episode. I knew what plot twist was coming but it still felt so shocking and amazing. Amazing directing this episode.
459: ''The Decisive Battle Draws Near! The Navy's Strongest Formation Set''
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If Marineford can keep up this level of quality, I'm sold.
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@Thousand:
Absolutely fantastic episode. I knew what plot twist was coming but it still felt so shocking and amazing. Amazing directing this episode.
Completely agreed. I especially loved the reaction scenes after the reveal. Gave me goosebumps.
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The melody of OP may not be catchy, but the lyrics certainly leaves impression.
This is the most fitting One Piece lyric for One Piece EVER.
The song is literally singing about this arc, word by word.Does anyone want a translation?
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Does anyone want a translation?
I think most of people here are itching for it, so yeah
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Awesome opening. Lyrics were absolutely spot on.
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雨上がりの空を仰ぐ度 泣き虫だった頃の僕を想う
誰かの背中をがむしゃらに追いかけた 「強くなりたい」ってEverytime I look up at the sky after the rain, I reminisce of the time when I was still a crybaby
I desperately chased after the back of someone, and thought to myself.. "I want to get stronger"今は風に消えた「ありがとう」 僕は強くなれているのかな?
答えはまだ出そうにないからさ やっぱりまだ歩いていくよMy gratitude have dissapeared into the wind. I question to myself, am I getting stronger?
I don't have the answer to that yet, so I'll keep on walkingさぁ行こう 立ち止まることなく
流れる時に負けないように
何度も立ち向かい続けよう
大切なもの失いたくないからSo let's go, without stopping my feet
So that I won't be defeated by the passing time
I will confront it again and again
Because I don't want to lose what's important to me僕の中に流れる声は ずっとずっと僕を支えてる
イタズラな雨が邪魔するけど 逃げ出さないからThe voice playing inside of me have supported me all this time
The mischievous rain may get in my way, but I will not run awayOh
さぁ行こう 立ち止まることなく
流れる時に負けないように
何度も立ち向かい続けよう
大切なもの失いたくないから
信じたその先へと・・・So let's go, without stopping my feet
So that I won't be defeated by the passing time
I will confront it again and again
Because I don't want to lose what's important to me
(so let's go) towards the future I believe in….God, even discussing the lyrics of this song would be a spoiler.
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@Mark:
animation is F***en AWESOME this week!! why is it soo good?! i had a nerdgasm….i wish all episode of one piece will be like this from now on :D opening was wayy better than the last one and the music when garp talks to roger gave me a goosebump LOL
btw last episode's animation was crappy as hell
EDIT: why is oars yellow?
Because Giants can be yellow in OP
A Nerdgasm? You've gotten pretty deranged after you heard moria died :ninja:
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Because Giants can be yellow in OP
A Nerdgasm? You've gotten pretty deranged after you heard moria died :ninja:
You should be banned for lying.
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http://www.fujitv.co.jp/GPplayer/e/GPplayerJMe.html?anime/onepiece/100801onepiece&type=flv
Awesome.
! The Moby dick coming outta the sea is gonna be fking epic. I hope they use some equally epic music for that scene.
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Lord Makugai and Doma are missing !
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Next episode: The Whitebeard Cometh
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! 雨上がりの空を仰ぐ度 泣き虫だった頃の僕を想う
誰かの背中をがむしゃらに追いかけた 「強くなりたい」って
! Everytime I look up at the sky after the rain, I reminisce of the time when I was still a crybaby
I chased after the back of someone, and thought to myself "I want to get stronger"
! 今は風に消えた「ありがとう」 僕は強くなれているのかな?
答えはまだ出そうにないからさ やっぱりまだ歩いていくよ
! My gratitude have dissapeared into the wind. I question to myself, am I getting stronger?
I don't have the answer to that yet, so I'll keep on walking
! さぁ行こう 立ち止まることなく
流れる時に負けないように
何度も立ち向かい続けよう
大切なもの失いたくないから
! So let's go, without stopping my feet
So I won't be defeated by the passing time
I will confront it again and again
Because I don't want to lose what's important to me
! 僕の中に流れる声は ずっとずっと僕を支えてる
イタズラな雨が邪魔するけど 逃げ出さないから
! The voice playing inside of me, have supported me all this time
The mischievious rain may get in my way, but I will not run away
! Oh
さぁ行こう 立ち止まることなく
流れる時に負けないように
何度も立ち向かい続けよう
大切なもの失いたくないから
信じたその先へと・・・
! So let's go, without stopping my feet
So I won't be defeated by the passing time
I will confront it again and again
Because I don't want to lose what's important to me
(so let's go) towards the future I believe in….
! God, even discussing the lyrics of this song would be a spoiler.I watched the ep on FUNI's site with subs, but your translation was so much more poetic, and as a result, more evocative. (See? You can be poetic.)
I think I may be in the minority. I think well placed still shots (and, for that matter, highlighted art pieces similar to those used in the Buggy arc on Shushu, for example–man I miss that level of art) are very effective in marking the emotional highpoints in certain scenes, and I felt that was the case in this opening. In fact it was these sort of art shots that made me feel this show was a cut above. (Just in case, since this is the anime forum, I'll use spoiler tags)
! The poignency of his need to reach Ace and nostalgia for their times together, as well as memories of times with the SHs, really highlighted what Luffy must be feeling–and that last one--man! Just made me cry looking at it. (although I understand that for people who didn't like Ace, that wouldn't be the case_
I respect your feelings, but for me this was an excellent opening because of Ace and Luffy's relationship–so important to the development of both of their characters.
Mabye I'm different from most, but many of my memories are often sort of "still shots" in my head, especially if they are older memories, so for me the still shots really hammered home the nostalgic feel of the opening sequence. -
@I:
I think well placed still shots (and, for that matter, highlighted art pieces similar to those used in the Buggy arc on Shushu, for example–man I miss that level of art) are very effective in marking the emotional highpoints in certain scenes
I agree, hell all comic books are just a series of (hopefully) well placed still shots. Animation is of course a different beast, but still shots still have a place when highlighting important events.
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I'd hope the OP would be better tbh, but I guess it will grown on me.
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So have not seen it yet : what's the consensus on the episode and opening ?
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@No:
So have not seen it yet : what's the consensus on the episode and opening ?
A really really high quality episode (OP as well).
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@No:
So have not seen it yet : what's the consensus on the episode and opening ?
LOL Consensus?–This is Arlong Park.
There are a fair few vocal individuals who hate it, and think it's the worst OP yet, there are a fair few vocal individuals who love it, and think it meets the feel of the arc perfectly, and there is the largest portion who feel it's "meh," better than before, but not all they were hoping for.
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It's perfect.
This fits much better than hard death metal. Just awesome, great start of the war. Keep it up.
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So…does Akainu not wear gloves anymore, or what? :ninja:
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@I:
I watched the ep on FUNI's site with subs, but your translation was so much more poetic, and as a result, more evocative. (See? You can be poetic.)
I think I may be in the minority. I think well placed still shots (and, for that matter, highlighted art pieces similar to those used in the Buggy arc on Shushu, for example–man I miss that level of art) are very effective in marking the emotional highpoints in certain scenes, and I felt that was the case in this opening. In fact it was these sort of art shots that made me feel this show was a cut above. (Just in case, since this is the anime forum, I'll use spoiler tags)
! The poignency of his need to reach Ace and nostalgia for their times together, as well as memories of times with the SHs, really highlighted what Luffy must be feeling–and that last one--man! Just made me cry looking at it. (although I understand that for people who didn't like Ace, that wouldn't be the case_
I respect your feelings, but for me this was an excellent opening because of Ace and Luffy's relationship–so important to the development of both of their characters.
Mabye I'm different from most, but many of my memories are often sort of "still shots" in my head, especially if they are older memories, so for me the still shots really hammered home the nostalgic feel of the opening sequence.I agree with this post that memories are best as "still shots". To me it just makes it feel more like the person's remembering something compared to animating the memories.
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the only thing i didn't like was that they took john giant's line and give it to some random giant. decrease his importance a bit IMO
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So, you guys hate Kawabla even though it is a very cool and catchy song that reminds me of the 6th opening
But you guys love this bland song?
Shame on you
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the only thing i didn't like was that they took john giant's line and give it to some random giant. decrease his importance a bit IMO
i don't understand that desicion at all.
EPIC EPISODE, one of the best works from kenji yokoyoma, AWESOME :)
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Honestly, I didn't know that Whitey Bay was THAT hot!
Her colour sheme was the most obvious to predict.
And He-Man WB-commander is blond like He-Man.
Yellow Oars still seems weird, he looks kinda ill, but whatever.
I have to watch that episode after work, I just saw those screencaps.
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No John Giant ? Fuck you guys , seriously .
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I've watched this episode 3 times already, what i don't usually do. It was that awesome and intense.
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With the source material, it will be hard to have boring episodes
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Very happy to have finally arrived at Marineford….both literally and metaphorically. Very solid first episode, several significant details covered. Warlords shown, Admirals introduced, Sengoku unleashing the big WTF moment, good pacing, etc. Yeah, this is definitely a promising start, I hope Toei continues at this pace.
Also glad to finally see the Commanders Anime-tized, pity they left out Blamenko, Namur and Speed Jiru, though. Also, no Doma or Makugai, alas
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It was a great episode! Loved it. Lots of marines… didn't find Pandaman, not even Waldo... oh well...
Lacroix (that giant, I think his name is Lacroix, but soon, we'll find out) looks... different. I always thought he was blond, don't ask me why.
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I realy loved the latin bit when the Roger flashback came on . Realy looks like they gave a crap about this episode now .
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Well this is just my opinion and I'm sure it's been said before but still the opening was one of the better ones but it kinda seemed like a bleach opening. The episode had some great plot development though. I just wish there could've been more episode and less stairs
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I didn't understand Garp interaction with Sengoku.
John Giant was cheated!!
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I didn't understand Garp interaction with Sengoku.
John Giant was cheated!!
The animation was great and I can't wait to see moby dick.Really? Or are you just being sarcastic? I'll answer as if you're serious, just in case.
Garp was upset about Sengoku's plan to reveal that Roger was Ace's father. Clearly he doesn't agree with the WG's stance that the sins of the father ought to rightfully be visited upon the head of the child–if he did agree he would never have agreed to raise Ace in the first place.
Furthermore, he was there when Ace, growing up, was dealing the with Roger hate that was everywhere, and is fully aware of how tortured Ace's feelings are about his parentage, and how much those feelings affected his own sense of self worth (there's a f/b that talks about that, but my memory is fuzzy about where it is in the Manga--before or after this part--and some here do not read the manga, so in case it'd be a spoiler, I can't tell you about it in too much detail anyway). Garp is basically Ace's G'father, or his father, at least to the best of his (admittedly limited) ability, and he feels the pain already of the whole excecution to begin with. He's protecting Ace as much as he is able, given his own loyalties, his personal involvement, and how much that damages his influence in this case.
Personally I can see why the WG thought it might be to their advantage to announce the end of Roger's bloodline, but I don't think Sengoku needed to try to make Ace say who his father was--not to mention hammer home precisely what his mother gave up for him, as well. The guy's about to be excecuted--isn't that enough? Leave him alone and make your damn speech by yourself. That was unecessarily cruel, IMHO, and, given Garp's personal relationship to Ace, undoubtedly felt that same way.
All that said, none of this argument between Sengoku and Garp appeared in the Manga. Sengoku said something about going ahead with the plan, and Garp basically said do what you want.
Ah well, far too much posted about that, especially on a board with this much Ace hate running rampant.
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@I:
Really? Or are you just being sarcastic? I'll answer as if you're serious, just in case.
Yeah.
I watched the ep quite rapidly and my english is not stellar.
I didn't understand when Sengoku said something like: " you are one of the parties".You don't have to fear the rabid Ace hate.
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Luffy & Ace are brothers in blood ? we know they have diffrent father , what about mother?
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Ace's mother died after having given birth to Ace.
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Luffy & Ace are brothers in blood ? we know they have diffrent father , what about mother?
They aren't literal blood brothers.
They have different parents.Ace Mother : Portgas D Rouge
Ace Father Gol D Roger
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Luffy & Ace are brothers in blood ? we know they have diffrent father , what about mother?
And the rest (about how they become brothers in the first place) will be revealed in time (or you can just read up to the current issue of the manga :ninja: lol)
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So … still trying to get the hang of the schedule for the anime and manga ... is 460 tonight? o.o
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I think next week .
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Dang! And I had my hopes up, too :/ Is there any easy way to check when the next one is?
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My understanding is that this week is some "Parade of Smiles" special, that's why no ep. There's a website somewhere with the schedule, but I usually get my news here, lol
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episode next week?
edit: okay
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episode next week?
Yep, far as I know… Not one today/tonight/tomorrow morning (depending on where you live) though
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Im pissed there isnt an episode this week. DIDNT WE just go through a filler arc and breaks and now we have to go on break?
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Its not a break–it's a special on the same channel. Not a decision by Toei as far as I know.
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What the hecK? Does this mean we have to wait till next Sunday!? Fuck
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What the hecK? Does this mean we have to wait till next Sunday!? Fuck
That is the general assumption.
Barring any unforseen Zombie Appocolypse or Invasion of Sentiant Mecha's from space attacking Japan.
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hey saturn change your avatar there are major spoilers.