Shame there's no clips of Eneru in it, but still awesome nonetheless.
Funimation dvd discussion II ( UPDATED 8/4/12, FIRST POST FOR F.A.Q)
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Wow, 3rd Voyage has a release date AND 2nd Voyage has a trailer?!
Happy Birthday To Me! XD
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Happy Birthday DemonRin!
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And it's up!!
One Piece Season 3 - Second Voyage Trailer as told by Eneru, I hope you all enjoy
Now that was an awesome trailer! Thanks for posting it.:happy:
Wow, 3rd Voyage has a release date AND 2nd Voyage has a trailer?!
Happy Birthday To Me! XD
What wonderful news!Happy B-Day Demon Rin!
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I didn't wana turn this into a Birthday thread guys, sorry. I just thought it was awesome all this cool news hit today XD
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That was a pretty sweet trailer. Would be even better if there was Eneru(Enel) in there, but showing his judgment attack is just as good. What really sold me was all the mention of God. Haha.
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And it's up!!
One Piece Season 3 - Second Voyage Trailer as told by Eneru, I hope you all enjoy
Damn, no laugh!
But Tatum's voice has gotten even better as Eneru since he uses it at every Jack-in-the-Box he goes to and has had loads of practice.
Wow, 3rd Voyage has a release date AND 2nd Voyage has a trailer?!
Happy Birthday To Me! XD
What wonderful news!May as well throw in a birthday wish as well. Nothing says happy birthday like One Piece!
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LOL all my worries flushed away in a matter of posts. And all appears to going according to "keikaku" :ninja: (See my first post in this thread)
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So following the pattern we should have set 4 by December 21 and set 5 or s4v1 by February 15. Just to let you guy's know, the French dub that has recently been dubbed has been keeping up with us in dvd releases. Their s3v2 comes out Sept 1, s3v3 on November 3 and s3v4 on January 5th according to amazon.fr . The first 195 episodes have also already aired on French tv and they have already recorded up to ennis lobby, so that kind of puts things in some persective.
Interesting!
Awesome trailer as usual. I liked the "Straw Hats R.I.P" text that came up, haha. Good to hear about the release date as well!
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It's just really good to know that we'll be all caught up in less than half a year.
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It'll be exciting. Now that they are getting out everything that they did that was announced, who knows what will be announced when!
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And it's up!!
One Piece Season 3 - Second Voyage Trailer as told by Eneru, I hope you all enjoy
this is cool! thanks for posting
Wow, 3rd Voyage has a release date AND 2nd Voyage has a trailer?!
Happy Birthday To Me! XD
What wonderful news!Happy birthday!!!
Season 3 Third Voyage coming in October! (link provided on twitter by @Dragonpiece)
http://www.rightstuf.com/i/fun09463OMG!!! we might actually get caught up sooner then i thought!
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Awesome! They used the logo like the Viz translations did! And Island of "DOOM"! What episodes does this one cover?
Where are you guys talking about that is selling the volumes for about $20?
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Awesome! They used the logo like the Viz translations did! And Island of "DOOM"! What episodes does this one cover?
Where are you guys talking about that is selling the volumes for about $20?
Sorry, I haven't gotten a DVD since the last first voyage, so I'm outta the loop. Haven't had any money.Right now Amazon has all of seasons 1 and 2 on sale for $21-$23 each. The sale last until July 26th.
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I just realized that they used a green One Piece logo in the Season 3, Second Voyage trailer. I like.
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@Mikey:
Uuh, there are plenty of places that have them on sale for about $20 right now.
But whatever. Keep up the ignorance and lack of contributing.
I know, I've already bought all of season two and said so in this thread. Keep up the lack of reading.
I'm not bitching about not being able to get them at a reasonable price(the price always comes down eventually), I'm bitching at the people who give other people shit for not wanting to pay the release price like they're somehow ripping off Funimation by waiting till the price actually becomes reasonable.
I also love "it's too expensive so I'll steal it".
But then entitlement bawler's always make me laugh.
It always makes me laugh when someone rolls their eyes at people acting entitled when the entitled people actually get what they want. It's one thing to scoff at someone thinking they should get something for free when they aren't able to get it. But scoffing at someone who's actually getting something for free that your paying for?
It's like trying to be elitest over someone who's bitching about not having a pool when they already have one, while you yourself don't.
Granted, the guy with the pool bitching about not having a pool is still dumb, but trying to act like you're better than that guy is just as dumb because…that guy has a pool and you don't.
Just like it's dumb to scoff at people who want free One Piece when those people are already getting free One Piece.
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I know, I've already bought all of season two and said so in this thread. Keep up the lack of reading.
I'm not bitching about not being able to get them at a reasonable price(the price always comes down eventually), I'm bitching at the people who give other people shit for not wanting to pay the release price like they're somehow ripping off Funimation by waiting till the price actually becomes reasonable.
Have you ever heard of a series called Big Windup? FUNimation released the first season on DVD, but all of their fans had pretty much your attitude: "why should I pay the full/discounted immediate price when I can just wait and get it even cheaper?" Well what ended up happening to that series is that it got cancelled because everyone waited to buy the DVDs. Now fans of that series will miss out on a dub of Season 2 and FUNimation will in all likelihood never have interest in a series of that genre for a long, long time.
Personally, I'm glad you're buying the series, and I also understand tight money situations. However, if you see RECENT DVDs for <$25.00, that's a good price. Personally, I would buy it at that price point. Of course, it's up to you whether or not you want to buy a certain set or support the series. If you buy it, you are supporting future releases. By not buying it…well it depends.
It always makes me laugh when someone rolls their eyes at people acting entitled when the entitled people actually get what they want. It's one thing to scoff at someone thinking they should get something for free when they aren't able to get it. But scoffing at someone who's actually getting something for free that your paying for?
It's like trying to be elitest over someone who's bitching about not having a pool when they already have one, while you yourself don't.
Granted, the guy with the pool bitching about not having a pool is still dumb, but trying to act like you're better than that guy is just as dumb because…that guy has a pool and you don't.
Just like it's dumb to scoff at people who want free One Piece when those people are already getting free One Piece.
I don't quite get the analogy. I think you used a few too many pronouns.
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It always makes me laugh when someone rolls their eyes at people acting entitled when the entitled people actually get what they want. It's one thing to scoff at someone thinking they should get something for free when they aren't able to get it. But scoffing at someone who's actually getting something for free that your paying for?
It's like trying to be elitest over someone who's bitching about not having a pool when they already have one, while you yourself don't.
Granted, the guy with the pool bitching about not having a pool is still dumb, but trying to act like you're better than that guy is just as dumb because…that guy has a pool and you don't.
Just like it's dumb to scoff at people who want free One Piece when those people are already getting free One Piece.
It always make me laugh when people try to cover their arse with some half baked analogy.
keep with it though!
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What's dumb about paying for something that wasn't even meant to be free anyway?
Dumb?
Yeah, where I come from, we call it "the law".
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I know, I've already bought all of season two and said so in this thread. Keep up the lack of reading.
Oh hey, I guess it's my responsibility to keep track of every little thing you say and to study your every move in your posts on this forum. Point is you didn't say that in the post I quoted, so don't blame me for that. Keep up the fine excuses and retarded analogies.
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It always makes me laugh when someone rolls their eyes at people acting entitled when the entitled people actually get what they want. It's one thing to scoff at someone thinking they should get something for free when they aren't able to get it. But scoffing at someone who's actually getting something for free that your paying for?
It's like trying to be elitest over someone who's bitching about not having a pool when they already have one, while you yourself don't.
Granted, the guy with the pool bitching about not having a pool is still dumb, but trying to act like you're better than that guy is just as dumb because…that guy has a pool and you don't.
Just like it's dumb to scoff at people who want free One Piece when those people are already getting free One Piece.
Dude this makes no sense, I literally have no idea what you are trying to say here.
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Just because it's a show about Pirates doing piratey stuff doesn't mean it's ok to pirate the show about Pirates doing piratey stuff.
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I know, I've already bought all of season two and said so in this thread. Keep up the lack of reading.
I'm not bitching about not being able to get them at a reasonable price(the price always comes down eventually), I'm bitching at the people who give other people shit for not wanting to pay the release price like they're somehow ripping off Funimation by waiting till the price actually becomes reasonable.
It always makes me laugh when someone rolls their eyes at people acting entitled when the entitled people actually get what they want. It's one thing to scoff at someone thinking they should get something for free when they aren't able to get it. But scoffing at someone who's actually getting something for free that your paying for?
It's like trying to be elitest over someone who's bitching about not having a pool when they already have one, while you yourself don't.
Granted, the guy with the pool bitching about not having a pool is still dumb, but trying to act like you're better than that guy is just as dumb because…that guy has a pool and you don't.
Just like it's dumb to scoff at people who want free One Piece when those people are already getting free One Piece.
Lol, I have to seriously ask what the fuck you've been smoking.
That's like a robber saying people shouldn't scoff at him for obtaining that pretty diamond for free while the good citizens are dirt poor. But at the end of the night, that robber was still the douche who broke into the museum and broke the law. Karma says fate will come and bite him in the ass for his actions.
Sure, that analogy is a little far fetched, but I don't want to hear people illegally downloading shit laughing like they're the smarter ones when they're clearly doing the wrong thing. Sure, I may download things I don't have access to, but I'm not gonna run around town barking up a storm about it either. And if something's legally available by streaming or on DVD, I'm not going to take the low route.
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It's like you guys are trying hard to not understand his point though.
Funimation screws early adopters.
Just like all of us who bought animation on tape, and again on DVD when selection was limited and price was higher. We know we could be payin' more and also know had we waited prices would eventually plummet.
The issue is while I appreciate what Funimation does, and have bought their cartoons, even if I'd seen them previously without it costing me, they always screw early adopters (needs to be repeated because again it's the whole point everyone seems to make even if we want to argue). They are likely more guilty of it than any other company importing animation, and I'd love to see people try to think up worse examples.
I'm especially annoyed by the Big Windup! example, because while I can't say I know too much about the show or its fanbase, I'm willing to wager the support wasn't there not because everyone wanted a cheaper repackaging but more because these types of series have a hard time finding footing as it is and the interest simply was not there. The reason I'd assume this is because we know what it's like to be a fan of niche genre and desperate desires to keep these things alive. Most of us have been there at one point in time, most of us probably feel that or have felt that for One Piece and its status as a licensed product in the US. And the sad part of that story isn't that fans supposedly collectively waited for prices to drop but that Funimation didn't have enough faith in their product or their work that they'd charge ahead and give it another season believing they could turn that ship around, and pay back those that were foolish enough to go ahead and invest in seeing that happen.
Either way it works out, if the series is left incomplete and not repackaged, or if the series is ultimately successful and rehashed in a better and more affordable bundle, it's the early adopters who take the brunt of it in both scenarios. Se we can forget analogy for a moment, even in the bleakest of situations we do know there will be fansubs of this series at least even if we can longer pay for something to put on our shelves. So hopefully this clears some of this nonsense up; we don't buy these sets to use as moral pedestals when arguing on an internet message board.
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What pont are you people trying to make? That if something costs too much just steal it?
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they always screw early adopters (needs to be repeated because again it's the whole point everyone seems to make even if we want to argue). They are likely more guilty of it than any other company importing animation, and I'd love to see people try to think up worse examples.
What are you even talking about.
Like you have to pay the rrp costs. I live in the uk & the place I buy them from has them near half the rrp cost from day one(and during preorders too).
And that includes delivery.
Why whinge about a problem that doesn't even exist.
Even if the rrp were the price we had to pay, they'd still be infinitely cheaper then what I had to pay ten or fifteen years ago.
And those prices were infinitely cheaper then what the Japanese pay.God we have it so hard.
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What are you even talking about.
Like you have to pay the rrp costs. I live in the uk & the place I buy them from has them near half the rrp cost from day one(and during preorders too).
And that includes delivery.
Why whinge about a problem that doesn't even exist.
Even if the rrp were the price we had to pay, they'd still be infinitely cheaper then what I had to pay ten or fifteen years ago.
And those prices were infinitely cheaper then what the Japanese pay.God we have it so hard.
The pre-order I found for the next set is like 37 dollars. If I wait just a week after the release date it goes down about 8 bucks. That is pretty reasonable for me, especially when you compare what we pay for what they pay in their nation of origin.
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Mine's £18, which works out at 28 dollars delivery included.
http://www.playusa.com/DVD/Region_1/3-/15476454/-/Product.html
Incredibly reasonable.
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And RightStuf has some huge sales for FUNimation items once a month or so, I usually am able to preorder sets in bulk for under $30. That way you "pay" over $50.00 and don't have to pay shipping, but they don't actually charge you until it does ship.
Normally: 40 + 7 = 47/set
Discounted: 29 + 0 = 29/setAnd even if you get it from Amazon later, you probably won't beat that price, plus you get the satisfaction of getting your One Piece fix early!
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@Zach:
And RightStuf has some huge sales for FUNimation items once a month or so, I usually am able to preorder sets in bulk for under $30. That way you "pay" over $50.00 and don't have to pay shipping, but they don't actually charge you until it does ship.
Normally: 40 + 7 = 47/set
Discounted: 29 + 0 = 29/setAnd even if you get it from Amazon later, you probably won't beat that price, plus you get the satisfaction of getting your One Piece fix early!
Indeed, and Season 3 First Voyage was shipped from RightStuf 3 weeks before it was even released to the public. So not only do you pay less, but you also receive it before anyone else. Btw the first two Season 3 sets cost me only $27 in pre-order all thanks to the past FUNimation sale they had. So…yeah...pretty cheap if you ask me, especially when you compare it to how much DVDs like these cost in Japan.
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It's like you guys are trying hard to not understand his point though.
Funimation screws early adopters.
Just like all of us who bought animation on tape, and again on DVD when selection was limited and price was higher. We know we could be payin' more and also know had we waited prices would eventually plummet.
This is true for EVERY PRODUCT IN EXISTENCE!
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Also anyone who has ever purchased anime in the U.S. should be aware that they cost more than other stuff. Even the Miyazaki films are generally five dollars more than anything produced in the U.S.
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I'm waiting until i get a better job before i start purchasing Funimation dubs. Right now i'm getting them on netflix so im assuming they're getting some sort of royalty.
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Actually I'm more happier ordering my One Piece dvds at amazon. Since Rightstuf charges the Iowa state taxes, which make even more expensive for me. I rather have Amazon free shipping ($25 and up)then getting the dvd early.
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Haven't been keeping up with Funi's releases since Season One, First Voyage (a problem I rectified last week when I ordered the next six volumes), but has there been any word from Funi concerning the prospect of OP on Blu-ray when they reach the episodes that were animated in HD? Last I heard they were taking a wait and see approach.
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I don't see why not. We got Movie 8 Blu-Ray before Japan did.
Honestly, I could see them "dual-releasing" from the HD stuff onward, with the DVD releases at 49 dollars and the Blu-Ray at 59. :\ or something, I dunno how that all works :p
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Haven't been keeping up with Funi's releases since Season One, First Voyage (a problem I rectified last week when I ordered the next six volumes), but has there been any word from Funi concerning the prospect of OP on Blu-ray when they reach the episodes that were animated in HD? Last I heard they were taking a wait and see approach.
We actually haven't gotten much news on the One Piece front in a while other than release dates but the outlook seems very good - from what I've heard at panels or read on feeds and other sources it looks like the series is doing well and that Funimation is going to continue it. They might make an announcement about Season 4 and beyond or movies (most likely Strong World) at an upcoming con (San Diego Comic Con or Otakon).
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Again I have to state, it's like you're trying not to understand.
I get that I can find it for less than the suggested retail price. I never even brought that up in the least. Not anything about the sets not warranting such a high cost, nor the fact that I'm sure sets are sold at that inflated standard even if most of us haven't paid those prices, or even the fact that setting a MSRP at such a high premium only to make it look like a better deal at the intended price is illegal in some regions because of how intentionally deceptive it is.
There, now you have me bitching about them setting it at an absurd 50 bucks, something I never previously mentioned or even slightly alluded to in my previous post. So here's your ammo, since you're ill equipped to deal with anything I actually did mention. And yeah I wouldn't pay those prices if I was in Japan, just like I don't pay for the printed materials here when you factor in how much they inflate the price.
And it's not true for everything that early adopters are completely dicked, while it's often to case for certain things maybe we're used to like anything tech related, it's far from true for everything. And while DVDs do tend to fall into those categories, we all know how much more exponential it is for these cartoons. Let's not take part in trying to fool ourselves.
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I'll be frank. This arguement of "the show costs too much, $50 is a BS price bwaaaaaaaaaah" is pathetic. I'm pretty sure the old Dragon Ball Z DVDs are still online somewhere and their RRP was $30 for a single DVD containing 3/4 episodes. You complain about $50 being too high but considering that no less than 5 years ago, you could of payed $120 for the exact same amount of content? Not only is $50 cheaper than their average price for new boxsets ($60), the first set of their One Piece release was actually cheaper to buy than the 4kids dub of the first "11" episodes!
I have to question the sources you're gathering from if you're still finding the early sets at their full RRP. We're on the internet, finding something cheap on a place like amazon or playusa isn't hard. In fact, the average discount for the newest (not even released!) sets seems to be between 23-27% off the RRP which is a pretty damn good deal. Considering all you'd have to do is search amazon/rightstuff, it's not exactly fair you're keeping to an RRP!
You may just simply reply to my post, suggesting that I, like Darkstorm, have "missed the point". You've pharsed your posts in a way that, while not being completely obvious, does make it clear that you think $50 is an insane price to pay for 'cartoon boxset'. Not only is anime part of a niche market in the states, the show is not airing on TV anymore and it's going to be far harder to find newer fans to purchase these sets without mass marketing. I realise that you can find shows really cheap these days but the fact is, american cartoons are far easier to sell to an audience in america because the target market can still find these shows on TV. The difference is notable, trust me.
However, I will admit that, despite stating the above, I can't personally change your view on the price. If you still won't pay $25 for the product, go ahead and be my guest. If more seasons of the show aren't licensed, we know its thanks to selfish people like you who won't simply pay a little bit more for the show they enjoy that could be far worse hands (and was).
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You want One Piece? You got the money to spare? Get it. Too high? Too bad, wait for a sale.
I feel bad because I only have the first five sets…
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@Zach:
And RightStuf has some huge sales for FUNimation items once a month or so, I usually am able to preorder sets in bulk for under $30. That way you "pay" over $50.00 and don't have to pay shipping, but they don't actually charge you until it does ship.
Normally: 40 + 7 = 47/set
Discounted: 29 + 0 = 29/setAnd even if you get it from Amazon later, you probably won't beat that price, plus you get the satisfaction of getting your One Piece fix early!
To add to this, even if you miss the sale, all you need to do is email Rightstuff and politely ask if they are willing to apply the sale price to your preordered item and they usually will. At least for me, the Rightstuff customer service has been very good. Which is why I've stuck with them.
Again I have to state, it's like you're trying not to understand.
I get that I can find it for less than the suggested retail price. I never even brought that up in the least. Not anything about the sets not warranting such a high cost, nor the fact that I'm sure sets are sold at that inflated standard even if most of us haven't paid those prices, or even the fact that setting a MSRP at such a high premium only to make it look like a better deal at the intended price is illegal in some regions because of how intentionally deceptive it is.
There, now you have me bitching about them setting it at an absurd 50 bucks, something I never previously mentioned or even slightly alluded to in my previous post. So here's your ammo, since you're ill equipped to deal with anything I actually did mention. And yeah I wouldn't pay those prices if I was in Japan, just like I don't pay for the printed materials here when you factor in how much they inflate the price.
And it's not true for everything that early adopters are completely dicked, while it's often to case for certain things maybe we're used to like anything tech related, it's far from true for everything. And while DVDs do tend to fall into those categories, we all know how much more exponential it is for these cartoons. Let's not take part in trying to fool ourselves.
Again, I have to ask what you people are putting in your coffee.
So your argument is the following…?
"If an item you like costs too much money, fuck paying for it. Just download it illegally and laugh at the idiots who actually give a damn about supporting the companies and the author."
I'm totally sure Oda would agree with that logic... :ninja:
Honestly, this is why Japan frowns on us Anime fans outside of Japan because so many people have this attitude. Hell, even people in Japan. It's why it takes so long for them to agree on things like Simulcasting. Luckily that barrier is slowly fading thanks to the success within the past couple of years or so, but there's still many series out there that could use simulcasting. Great series from last season, for example, like Angel Beats! or Working!! or B Gata H Kei that didn't receive any legal alternative. I'm at least glad more series this season are getting the treatment they deserve.
You want One Piece? You got the money to spare? Get it. Too high? Too bad, wait for a sale.
I feel bad because I only have the first five sets…
There's no reason for you to feel bad because you're not caught up. Money issues are money issues. We can't expect people to shun their bills and other more important things for anime DVDs. We just don't agree with the logic of it being okay to go illegaly just because you can't afford it either. Thing to do is to just buy when you are able to in cases like that. You're still supporting the series either way, even if you are behind.
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I know. It's not a monetary issue, really. I buy A LOT of DVDs, and so when I see a good deal I pick it up. Unfortunately, I run out of cash when it's time to get One Piece.
Off-topic: @Chopperrules Weren't you on Vegapunk forums a year or two ago. Nice to see you again.
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And it's not true for everything that early adopters are completely dicked, while it's often to case for certain things maybe we're used to like anything tech related, it's far from true for everything. And while DVDs do tend to fall into those categories, we all know how much more exponential it is for these cartoons. Let's not take part in trying to fool ourselves.
Your big "wah, wah, wah" point that you seem to feel I'm not addressing is that funi are screwing early adopters. 13 episode sets are not screwing the early adopter. A reasonable price is not screwing the early adopter. Hence funi are not screwing the early adopter.
Early adopter screwings consist of singles or meagre numbers of episodes for high prices, and cancellations after box sets are started, and I have suffered from all of these over the last fifteen years, so I know what it feels like to be punched in the face for getting series as they come out.
Funi isn't doing any of those things, and their approach for releasing one piece is one of the most generous I've seen. They are pumping out 13 episode sets for little more then the price of a new movie. The only people fooling themselves are those trying to justify enjoying the series without paying for it by complaining that funi aren't selling 100 episode sets for a dollar.
Well fine, but if you're going to do that don't post in the frigging funi thread and expect people to go "oh yeah man, funi are gouging and everyone should just dl. HIGHFIVE.".
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Guys… I'm up for buying the sets and supporting the series as much as the next guy, but... If someone doesn't care, they simply do not care.
All these "Too bad, just wait till u have enough money" responses are pointless. They will do what they want to do.
Morality is not something they probably care about. As long as they see One Piece, it's all good.
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Disclaimer: Yes, I fucking know One Piece was on sale recently. I bought several volumes during it. And I own ALL the One Piece volumes in the first two seasons.
@AMS:
Dude this makes no sense, I literally have no idea what you are trying to say here.
I'm giving shit to people who are being assholes to the people who think $40 bucks is too much for a volume of One Piece.
Especially since, when you act like an asshole to someone for wanting to wait till it's cheaper, presumably because you think they should be supporting Funimation more, all they end up doing is pissing off the person to the point where they don't buy them at all out of spite.
In a nutshell, what I'm trying to say is, "When you act like an asshole to someone who's actually supporting One Piece because they aren't supporting it soon enough, all your gonna do is make that person stop supporting One Piece entirely just to fuck YOU. So stfu and be glad those people are buying DVDs at least and stop giving them shit."
@Zach:
Have you ever heard of a series called Big Windup? FUNimation released the first season on DVD, but all of their fans had pretty much your attitude: "why should I pay the full/discounted immediate price when I can just wait and get it even cheaper?" Well what ended up happening to that series is that it got cancelled because everyone waited to buy the DVDs. Now fans of that series will miss out on a dub of Season 2 and FUNimation will in all likelihood never have interest in a series of that genre for a long, long time.
That sounds like it's Funimations problem, as clearly, they priced that series above what almost the entirety of it's fanbase was willing to pay. If the fanbase was as big as you imply, then clearly it would have been a success if Funimation has priced it cheaper to begin with.
So either A. It's the series' fault for being shitty and not actually having fans to begin with or B. It's funimations fault for charging too much. At no point is a series failure the customers fault.
That's true with everything. If something doesn't sell, it's either because it wasn't good, or it was too expensive. You don't blame the goddamn customers for not wanting your shitty/overpriced product.
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Again all I'm seein' are people tryin' to build up straw men and attack me for shit I never said. All the while talking about what's pathetic. The things about those singles is that's how the market was established then.
If you can't see that these sets are budget rush jobs, you're simply not that smart, it's simple. Much of the things I did say about people waiting were in direct relation to what was brought up before I even stepped in here to state my point of view. I even directly referenced where it was brought up how hazardous that was which I refuted.
And new movies aren't fifty bucks. Not even two disc special editions, unless you think they're the same cost after months on sale, in which case they're still not.
I don't know how you don't feel punched in the face when we don't get the real title sequences and still get greatly reduced video quality. Whether this is or isn't the definitive One Piece set that'll last through the ages is of course to be seen, but either situation sort of leaves me sad. I wish they did have the original titles, I wish the video wasn't so compressed, I wish the boxes weren't pretty ugly.
This isn't from a guy who's sayin' it's cool to steal them. I'm one of the many who actually buys the sets, and it's actually a pain in the ass, because while I appreciate the speed, I think the sales of this show going so well are a huge factor in them rushing these sets when I'd much rather they slowed down a bit and got us some movies and specials. They're coming out almost too frequently for my tastes and while I don't mean to make any comments that invite any dickwaving as to anyone's financial status, keeping up with these sets gets pretty fucking expensive.
I'm at the point now where I'm heavily considering cutting my losses here and either waiting for a better set, or just picking them up on ebay long after the fact. Not recommending stealing because that's not what I'm about, but if I pick them up off of ebay, I'm not helping the show in the least, it'd almost be hedging bets on the show falling out of popularity. The thought makes me sad, but we know Funimation, we've dealt with this before, how many "definitive" versions of Dragon Ball have we seen? It's at moments a little bit heartbreaking.
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I mean do support the official release of One Piece, I just always like buying it off Amazon, so that at the same time when I preorder my One Piece dvds, I can order Marvel books when I order the One Piece dvds at amazon, so that I can hit two birds with one stone.
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If you can't see that these sets are budget rush jobs, you're simply not that smart, it's simple. Much of the things I did say about people waiting were in direct relation to what was brought up before I even stepped in here to state my point of view. I even directly referenced where it was brought up how hazardous that was which I refuted.
And new movies aren't fifty bucks. Not even two disc special editions, unless you think they're the same cost after months on sale, in which case they're still not.
I don't know how you don't feel punched in the face when we don't get the real title sequences and still get greatly reduced video quality. Whether this is or isn't the definitive One Piece set that'll last through the ages is of course to be seen, but either situation sort of leaves me sad. I wish they did have the original titles, I wish the video wasn't so compressed, I wish the boxes weren't pretty ugly.
Budget rush jobs? Real title sequences? Reduced video quality? Please explain. Everytime I watch the One Piece DVDs on my PC and watch an episode, the quality the episodes have is by far better than any episode I have downloaded in the past via torrent. I even have friends that I have lended the DVDs to who have commented me that it looks far more "HD" than when they saw it on TV in Cartoon Network. I don't exactly know what you mean by title sequences, but I THINK you mean the actual title font of the series in FUNimation (the gold font One Piece logo). If that's the case (and please correct me if it is not if you by chance reply this post of mine) then I would understand your concern in a way, since it does make it different from the original episodes, but there's a reason why they put the textless songs on the DVDs, and that's so that if you're curious on how the openings originally are, you can watch them there. Also, the logo isn't really something to begin to protest about, FUNimation has always made their own made logos for many series they've purchased just to make it more friendlier for newcomers, and I personally would have changed the logo after 4Kids horrible dub. Also, if it is a budget rush job, then could you explain to me why do they take their time to make video commentaries and the voice acting is actually pretty decent? About the box sets. You say they are ugly, but that is just your opinion. Many here have commented the complete opposite in many occasions. I respect your opinion either way in that.
@Bludgeon:This isn't from a guy who's sayin' it's cool to steal them. I'm one of the many who actually buys the sets, and it's actually a pain in the ass, because while I appreciate the speed, I think the sales of this show going so well are a huge factor in them rushing these sets when I'd much rather they slowed down a bit and got us some movies and specials. They're coming out almost too frequently for my tastes and while I don't mean to make any comments that invite any dickwaving as to anyone's financial status, keeping up with these sets gets pretty fucking expensive.
I'm at the point now where I'm heavily considering cutting my losses here and either waiting for a better set, or just picking them up on ebay long after the fact. Not recommending stealing because that's not what I'm about, but if I pick them up off of ebay, I'm not helping the show in the least, it'd almost be hedging bets on the show falling out of popularity. The thought makes me sad, but we know Funimation, we've dealt with this before, how many "definitive" versions of Dragon Ball have we seen? It's at moments a little bit heartbreaking.
About this… it is not FUNimation's problem that you, for some reason, get desperate when they release sets every two months and don't have the money for it, but still buy it. Who told you that you had to buy every DVD when it actually releases? Also, the reason that probably FUNimation hasn't released any other movies or specials is because they want to concentrate on completing what they have done. Since they started dub on Season 3, they had already acquired the first 200 or so episodes from Toei, and part of the deal was dubbing Movie 8 since it was released at the moment in Japan. FUNimation has already said that after Season 3 ends that they will make big announcements for One Piece, so you'll have to wait till then to see if they acquired some movies or so. In conclusion to this, if you don't have the money to buy the DVDs at the moment, then don't buy them. Simple as that.
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Disclaimer: Yes, I fucking know One Piece was on sale recently. I bought several volumes during it. And I own ALL the One Piece volumes in the first two seasons.
I'm giving shit to people who are being assholes to the people who think $40 bucks is too much for a volume of One Piece.
Especially since, when you act like an asshole to someone for wanting to wait till it's cheaper, presumably because you think they should be supporting Funimation more, all they end up doing is pissing off the person to the point where they don't buy them at all out of spite.
In a nutshell, what I'm trying to say is, "When you act like an asshole to someone who's actually supporting One Piece because they aren't supporting it soon enough, all your gonna do is make that person stop supporting One Piece entirely just to fuck YOU. So stfu and be glad those people are buying DVDs at least and stop giving them shit."
I really am not sure what you're trying to argue: you buy the DVDs, I assume you support others who buy the DVDs. I'd go out on a limb and say you're helping to support the series by buying the series. If someone WANTS to pay fifty bucks for the sets, you can't really stop them. Personally, I agree, it won't hurt if you wait a month or less for a RightStuf sale or an Amazon sale. If you wait too long though, then you endanger your support. THATS what I'm saying about Big Windup.
That sounds like it's Funimations problem, as clearly, they priced that series above what almost the entirety of it's fanbase was willing to pay. If the fanbase was as big as you imply, then clearly it would have been a success if Funimation has priced it cheaper to begin with.
So either A. It's the series' fault for being shitty and not actually having fans to begin with or B. It's funimations fault for charging too much. At no point is a series failure the customers fault.
That's true with everything. If something doesn't sell, it's either because it wasn't good, or it was too expensive. You don't blame the goddamn customers for not wanting your shitty/overpriced product.
It's not that there weren't fans, there are a ton of Big Windup fans. It's not that the release was bad, to the contrary, it was critically praised. It was that people were waiting until a price drop and they waited too long. This is a well known and well cited example to the "entitlement" issue that you're exhibiting and that the anime community is very, very well known for. It's not that those with the entitlement issue don't support the series, it's that those with that issue believe they deserve a set that they won't necessarily receive because it's fiscally irresponsible or because it's fiscally impossible.
It's ridiculous that you just dismiss the customer as "unblameable." Have you ever heard of how the market works? How the fuck do you think the popularity of a series is measured? Sales. If people don't buy a series, they won't produce it. In the case of series that are "on-the-edge" (when FUNimation or another anime company is testing the water to see if there's a market) the sales are especially important. When a series doesn't take, they'll stop producing it. It's not because of the company, it's clearly because of the consumer and its entitlement issue. You said it yourself: we're getting 13 episode box sets WITH extras, well-dubbed series, and nice packaging. And then the consumer says: "I'm not paying 37 bucks for this!" I hate to say, but that's not the company's fault. When a company puts out single disks or something and expects a result, or uses a poor business model and expects a result, then it's the company's fault. This wasn't the case with Big Windup, it was a quality release with a quality price.
For people who are waiting for bigger One Piece sets, they won't come for a while. For people who wait over a year for cheaper prices on sets, they won't get much/any cheaper than the 20-something dollars they are on Amazon. It's your choice how and whether you want to support a series, but if you want One Piece to succeed, you need to put your money where you mouth is. I'm certainly not forcing you to spend money, it's completely up to you how you spend it, but don't be hypocritical.
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Who the Hell buys anime DVDs thinking there won't be a repackage down the road? Seriously, this market is built on them. Although it does displease me they do not use the proper animation for the openings, endings, title cards, eyecatches, and next episode previews.
As for lesser quality, FUNimation is compensating for six or seven episodes on a disc and three audio tracks (not to mention subs). The Japanese discs don't have to deal with this, therefore there is more room for the episodes.