Whitebeard is already dead but his mustache ate the animation fruit which made his dead corpse animated.
It's all apart of Gaimon's devious plot to rule the world
You heard it here first!
Whitebeard is already dead but his mustache ate the animation fruit which made his dead corpse animated.
It's all apart of Gaimon's devious plot to rule the world
You heard it here first!
Whitebeard's death might affect Ace a lot, so I think Ace would try to fulfill Whitebeard's wish …. which is that Whitebeard wanted Ace to be the next pirate king.
would Ace be able to get that tittle when his own brother is going for that too ?
I agree, Ace himself said that he'll make WB the pirate king and considers him his father. He may attempt to claim the seat, either to fulfill his old man's dream of him becoming the king or to take his place so to speak.
I however doubt that it would come down to a fight between Luffy and Ace though.
I agree, Ace himself said that he'll make WB the pirate king and considers him his father. He may attempt to claim the seat, either to fulfill his old man's dream of him becoming the king or to take his place so to speak.
I however doubt that it would come down to a fight between Luffy and Ace though.
yeah ! that fight would be great ! Im looking foward to seeing that !
maybe whitebeard will die,but i hope with a very good company
i'd like to see a dead Kizaru,loosing blood from ears
I don't know… I've kinda felt it too...
Remember when it turned out no one was stupid enough to attack/try to take over fishman island becuase white beard said it belonged to him?
Well, if White Beard does die, fishman island will be up for grabs, so when the straw hats eventually do get to fishman island, it'll make the arc all the more interesting.
My guess is in the end, Luffy will beat up those who try to claim it and then declare Fishman island as his own territory, so that no one else will try to take it over again once the crew leaves for the next destination.
Not to mention Luffy and Jinbei are already friends, so such an act would help to gain further respect and support from Jinbei.
Also, let's not forget Blackbeard... I'd say that maybe he planned all this so that blackbeard WOULD go to save Ace and end up getting killed. Just saying shrugs
Wait... shouldn't this kind of topic be in the "Theories that don't deserve their own thread" thread?
MY OPINIONS :
Whitebeard's death might affect Ace a lot, so I think Ace would try to fulfill Whitebeard's wish …. which is that Whitebeard wanted Ace to be the next pirate king.
would Ace be able to get that tittle when his own brother is going for that too ?
well i think thats gonna happen
also it would put the new world into a time of chaos and thats perfect for the strawhat adventure
it woudl allow for marines to start to try gain control in the new world and we could see several sea battles with the strawhats against other pirates bounty hunters and marines
white beard wont die hell just be sent to a prison for the rest of his life ahh i miss 4 kids but seriously i hope he dies or atleast someone important dies but i have faith in oda do pull something awsome that noone expected
http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=18218 -> looking for this thread?
People who think Ace will die are oblivious of the millions of screaming fangirls who will letter bomb Oda's house if that happens.
If WB doesnt die, Luffy can never become the PK, so WB will definitely die by Croc's hook.
This thread will DEFINITELY get merged.
Remember when it turned out no one was stupid enough to attack/try to take over fishman island becuase white beard said it belonged to him?
Well, if White Beard does die, fishman island will be up for grabs, so when the straw hats eventually do get to fishman island, it'll make the arc all the more interesting.
My guess is in the end, Luffy will beat up those who try to claim it and then declare Fishman island as his own territory, so that no one else will try to take it over again once the crew leaves for the next destination.
Fishman Island isnt so far away from the marine HQ and mary joa. And every pirate who want to travel between the first and second half of the grand line have to pass it.
How the hell could one rookie pirate who is traveling somewhere in the new world offer some protection to fishman island?
And the whole BB-kills-WB-and-FI-will-fall-in-chaos-and-everyone-is-waiting-for-luffy-to-save-the-day-theorie is so much guessed, that it would be somewhat cheap and boring if it really happens.
Crocodile will kill WB.
Ace will live, he will gather his crew and will hunt down the Shichibukai(including Croc, Teach,Moria, Dofla).
I think he will be injured, but won't die on the spot, just after some time the war. The marines don't deserve to see him die. Besides, I think it would eb maybe to much for the war as well. it should be after the war.
Wow, this thread wasn't moved yet? Weird…
Anyway, I predict that Whitebeard will die of whatever illness he had when we first met him. I mean, throughout this fight he's been perfectly healthy, what's up with that? I see a guy like Whitebeard dying because of something like that, not allowing any other one person to be responsible for his death. Or, someone kills him while he suffers from that illness. Either way, I just don't see Whitebeard legitimately losing in a one on one fight.
well, in order for the story to move along, Whitebeard must die or at least get incapacitated. Not only him though, a majority of marines and new world pirates will have to be incapacitated / dead in order for the balance to be maintain…. if not, all hell breaks loose if either one of side only has minor losses...
Wow, this thread wasn't moved yet? Weird…
Anyway, I predict that Whitebeard will die of whatever illness he had when we first met him. I mean, throughout this fight he's been perfectly healthy, what's up with that? I see a guy like Whitebeard dying because of something like that, not allowing any other one person to be responsible for his death. Or, someone kills him while he suffers from that illness. Either way, I just don't see Whitebeard legitimately losing in a one on one fight.
yes ! His illness will somehow be the cause of his death ….
WB wont die hes too good that would be fudging. Oda don't Fudge
Wow, this thread wasn't moved yet? Weird…
Anyway, I predict that Whitebeard will die of whatever illness he had when we first met him. I mean, throughout this fight he's been perfectly healthy, what's up with that? I see a guy like Whitebeard dying because of something like that, not allowing any other one person to be responsible for his death. Or, someone kills him while he suffers from that illness. Either way, I just don't see Whitebeard legitimately losing in a one on one fight.
Same here. I think that's the only way for Oda to get away with his policy of 'no one dies in (the present time) One Piece'.
I think WB might die after successfully free Ace and destroyed more than half of the WG / Marines HQ. I can see WB stands behind, using his DF power to provide an escape for everyone before collapse to the ground, died because of his illness. That fits his character better than having another character (such as BB) killing him.
WB's death is really important to signifying the ending of his era before Luffy entering the New World, with a new era ahead.
I can't see anyone death will gave much more impact to OP world other than WB. We're talking about our first, named character, death in present time of OP here. Oda gotta give it to WB.
Ace will be set free and WB will die makin the war not a total loss for the Marines. I also think that Garp will die because he will try to stop someone from hurting Luffy and Akinu, the Admiral who belives in absolute justice, will kill him. WB, I think, will be killed by BB Making him the real villan. Also Smoker Will replace Garp and we will finally see the powers of Sengoku.
Signs Whitebeard will die;
They're not solid signs, but they're something to work with.
In regards to BBTEACH
Smoker is nowhere near Garp's level in power or rank.
Garp used to fight with Roger, he raised his kid.
Smoker is a joke compared to Garp, what because he can beat up Luffy?
He failed to capture Ace
A Shichibukai made him her play-thing destroying his most powerful of powerful weapons
He is nowhere near Admiral/Vice Admiral level, he has more growing up to do than Luffy before he gets to Garp.
If anyone replaces Garp, it would be Aokiji, I think he's tired of the Marine's B.S. that they keep dragging him into.
People who think Ace will die are oblivious of the millions of screaming fangirls who will letter bomb Oda's house if that happens.
and the fact that as soon as oda wrote "i could beat him now" it was sealed that one day they would fight.
for nothing other than just great amazing fan service for us. we get to see luffy fight ace. how great is that fight gonna be. its just like finally meeting shanks, both are gonna be great.
both won't be fights or meetings out of hate, but a meeting to prove something to one another.
If WB dies - and I think he will - Ace is done for: how mentally would he overcome that ?
and the fact that as soon as oda wrote "i could beat him now" it was sealed that one day they would fight.
for nothing other than just great amazing fan service for us. we get to see luffy fight ace. how great is that fight gonna be. its just like finally meeting shanks, both are gonna be great.
both won't be fights or meetings out of hate, but a meeting to prove something to one another.
Ace's head will leave his neck.
I am afraid to say that if WB dies Ace will become some kind of Sasuke…the kid trapped in the darkness of the Pirate World:ninja:
I am afraid to say that if WB dies Ace will become some kind of Sasuke…the kid trapped in the darkness of the Pirate World:ninja:
Which is why both of them will die.
I am afraid to say that if WB dies Ace will become some kind of Sasuke…the kid trapped in the darkness of the Pirate World:ninja:
Let's be thankful Kishimoto isn't writing this story. shudders
I am afraid to say that if WB dies Ace will become some kind of Sasuke…the kid trapped in the darkness of the Pirate World:ninja:
That's my fear too. But Oda isn't stupid, so he won't turn Ace into a character that everybody hates and likes at the same time. (looking at YOU, Sasuke.)
Ace only has the "everybody likes" part. Course, some Ace fans are annoying…..but Oda won't pull a Sasuke on us. He won't.
Ace is more of a "everybody is indifferent too" character. He hasn't really done enough for anybody to like him too much.
Ace isn't going to turn emo. At the end he'll just decide to achieve becoming the PK himself so WB won't die in vain and also so Teach&Luffy don't leave the war with all the spotlight. The WB pirates just becoming a tattered organization on the world stage if he doesn't. Sadly I don't think he'll just become the boss as easily as others think. Both Marco&Joz may end up going down with their boss as well for that to happen….well more like Pell. Showing up alive way later in the series.
@Karate:
Which is why both of them will die.
You keeping saying this. I'm gonna be so mad if it doesn't happen.
Fuck Ace.
Moria is going to be the captain of the Whitebeard Pirates and become the motherfucking Pirate King.
I don't know… I've kinda felt it too...
Remember when it turned out no one was stupid enough to attack/try to take over fishman island becuase white beard said it belonged to him?
Well, if White Beard does die, fishman island will be up for grabs, so when the straw hats eventually do get to fishman island, it'll make the arc all the more interesting.
My guess is in the end, Luffy will beat up those who try to claim it and then declare Fishman island as his own territory, so that no one else will try to take it over again once the crew leaves for the next destination.
Not to mention Luffy and Jinbei are already friends, so such an act would help to gain further respect and support from Jinbei.
Also, let's not forget Blackbeard... I'd say that maybe he planned all this so that Whitebeard WOULD go to save Ace and end up getting killed. Just saying shrugs
Wait... shouldn't this kind of topic be in the "Theories that don't deserve their own thread" thread?
You should post more often ;)
I see Blackbeards plan being similar to the plot of 'sum of all fears'
Blackbeard infiltrates both rivalling powers and makes an act that will in turn set his biggest obstacles against each other, thus removing most of the problems he would encounter in his bid to become top dog. I wonder if he has encompassed the revolutionaries and Yonkou in his plans for dominance?
Ya know what, I look forward to some great fire themed symbolism when Ace gets free, and after that. I see Ace exploding with a huge burst of flames when getting free, causing a huge commotion that changes the tides of the war somehow. The use of the other logias have shown that Oda can really work with a theme like that.
One thing I noticed, Whitebeard's giving a lot of attention to Luffy on his arrival. That "don't let that boy die comment." Maybe, Whitebeard recognizes the same "Pirate King potential" he saw in Ace with Luffy. In fact, knowing this series, what if Luffy does something that surpasses that expectation? Maybe Luffy and Ace later in the series will end up as competitors for Pirate King, but with a little twist. On Ace's side, he fights for the recognition of his father Whitebeard like that, or something along those lines.
The point is, Ace burns with jealousy because Luffy hurt his pride. Yeah, that's a pun, but I can't help but think of how much thought may have went into creating Ace's character with that specific ability. Hell, you can replace "jealousy" with any word, but after this battle I see Ace going through some kind of rage, anger, flame themed emotion that ties into a developing rivalry with Luffy.
That's all well and good, but the cleaving of the throat area, separating the head from the torso, will really cause a problem for those theories.
Y'know I honestly think is going die welcoming and accepting his death.
I know it is been really clear and all.. But I am touching the hidden symbolism within it. The fact that Ace will smile, will symbolize the one trait he inherited from his father. And it will play keenly into the "Will of D."
Ace virtually has nothing in common Gold. D Roger, according to Whitebeard.
That piece of information is significant, as the Ace's death will lead up to revealing a personality trait he does share with his dad, and with many with "D" as their middle name, moments before he dies.
I think Ace at least giving some form of strong message to Luffy to prevent him from being an awful overemotional faggot.
Good ol' Bill, I always liked you.
because of you guys i'm starting to accept that Ace's virecard will go out. The only thing that's keeping me from nodding completely is that Oda never lets anyone die in the present story.
because of you guys i'm starting to accept that Ace's virecard will go out. The only thing that's keeping me from nodding completely is that Oda never lets anyone die in the present story.
Don't be fooled he won't die.
It'd be better for the story if Ace doesn't die. He'd be a symbol of hope for a dark future where Whitebeard is dead and the world is going to be in chaos.
I stand by my view Ace won't die purely because Oda isn't going to kill a character that's consistently ranked 8th in the popularity due to him being so bishie.
It would be both commercial and literal suicide.
Y'know I honestly think is going die welcoming and accepting his death.
I know it is been really clear and all.. But I am touching the hidden symbolism within it. The fact that Ace will smile, will symbolize the one trait he inherited from his father. And it will play keenly into the "Will of D."Ace virtually has nothing in common Gold. D Roger, according to Whitebeard.
That piece of information is significant, as the Ace's death will lead up to revealing a personality trait he does share with his dad, and with many with "D" as their middle name, moments before he dies.I think Ace at least giving some form of strong message to Luffy to prevent him from being an awful overemotional faggot.
I disagree mostly because Mr. Oda already did the Gold Roger accepting his death symbolism in Logue Town. I know it's different what with Ace being his son and all but it still just seems like rehashing the idea.
Also it'd be too big a kick in the pants for Luffy for Ace to die after everything he went through for a relatively pointless death in the grand scheme of things. The only thing that really matters to this era is Whitebeard, Ace's head is extra compared to him.
Also Luffy's personality will never change whether he dies or not. It doesn't need to change. Just because Luffy's a goofball has nothing to do with him being a true pirate. Personality has nothing to do with strength. Look at how Shanks always goofs around, look at Ivankov, Magellan when he's relaxing, Hancock, Moria, Blackbeard, I can go on all day.
Crocodile killing WB and Akainu killing Garp sounds right.
Lets see.
Crocodile escaped Impel Down caused a total mess there and now participates in the war against Whitebeards alliance. If Marines win the war,Crocodile will still be a escaped criminal and the marines are going to (try to) capture him and possibly bring him back to ID. If WhiteBeard
s alliance win,its obvious that after his actions he will pay.
Despite every other participant in the war(exept Mr1) either side wins,Crocodile is screwed up.For one of the smartest OP villians i doubt that he didnt saw this coming.
What do you think will happen to him?
Does his temporaly ally with Don Flammingo,while shichibukai keep loosing members may lead to his return to the shichibukai group?
I'm sure that if he helps bringing Whitebeard down, he'll get his position as a Shichibukai back. There already is an open spot with Jinbei resigning. And I'm sure that at least one more will be open after the war.
I am sure Oda had brought him for a reason. Maybe he will join BB's crew.
I don't know what will happen to Crocodile. But I know Oda isn't going to introduce him again after 7 arcs just to have him locked up again. Maybe he'll go his own path. Maybe a battle between Crocodile and Whitebeard?
I really want him to meet Robin again, just for the hell of it.
Isn't the fact that Whitebeard wants Ace to be the next Pirate King enough to confirm that Ace wont die?