that was a good chapter.so kik is a girl?the shark still looks weird 0.o.so i guess them going back to the past was a poor translation?
Katekyo Hitman REBORN! Discussion
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Kikyou's a guy; Bluebell was asking Kikyou what Uni was doing.
Good chapter overall; nice to see Mukurou isn't dead. Next chapter will be him raping some face.
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@Fire Fist:
Kikyou's a guy; Bluebell was asking Kikyou what Uni was doing.
Good chapter overall; nice to see Mukurou isn't dead. Next chapter will be him raping some face.
of course he is no one fucks with the master of illusion.
good chapter. Mukuro was the highlight.
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we better get to see hibari's box weapon animal in weapon form soon
so lets see what do people think all the vongola weapon animals will be
Hibari - hedgehogs turn into mace tonfas
Gokudera - uri turns into two snazzy looking pistols
Ryohei - kangyru turns into Boxing gloves of course and judging by the cannons on his back he'll be there to upgrade the maximum canon into the extreme canon
chrome - owl turns to trident
Lambo- bull turns into thunder horns i guess i don't really know on this one
EDIT: of yeah and hibari's gonna attack mukuro
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Hopefully it won't turn out for the Vongolas to run away. It would totally destroy the hype.
@Shaman:that was a good chapter.so kik is a girl?the shark still looks weird 0.o.so i guess them going back to the past was a poor translation?
Kikyo is a man. The new guy translated it wrongly. Just like they mistranslated Dino saying that Mukuro was coming back.
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we better get to see hibari's box weapon animal in weapon form soon
so lets see what do people think all the vongola weapon animals will be
Hibari - hedgehogs turn into mace tonfas
Gokudera - uri turns into two snazzy looking pistols
Ryohei - kangyru turns into Boxing gloves of course and judging by the cannons on his back he'll be there to upgrade the maximum canon into the extreme canon
chrome - owl turns to trident
Lambo- bull turns into thunder horns i guess i don't really know on this one
EDIT: of yeah and hibari's gonna attack mukuro
i think the popular guess would be that lambo bull turns into like battle suit.since it is bigger and more mechanical looking.
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But i highly doubt if there is such a battle suit in the past. Well maybe not, maybe yes.
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I always wished Lambo's box had something to do with aging him.
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148 is out.
So Uni's mother is named Aria. Likeable enough character, though her trial was a little unorthodox compared to the others. I wish they'd explain exactly what happened to Luce (that's the correct spelling, btw, it's Italian for Light). They did at least include her in a flashback with Reborn, implying that she's not merely missing, but deceased. It also sort of implies that Reborn and Luce are more than just "friends", and that Uni calling him "grandpa" may not be far from the mark…
Next is Reborn's trial; an all out brawl. Should be pretty neat filler. That means Verde is last. Considering Verde has been fucking with them since the beginning of the trials, who knows what his actual trial will be.
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Mukuro is too cool!
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@Fire Fist:
148 is out.
So Uni's mother is named Aria. Likeable enough character, though her trial was a little unorthodox compared to the others. I wish they'd explain exactly what happened to Luce (that's the correct spelling, btw, it's Italian for Light). They did at least include her in a flashback with Reborn, implying that she's not merely missing, but deceased. It also sort of implies that Reborn and Luce are more than just "friends", and that Uni calling him "grandpa" may not be far from the mark…
Next is Reborn's trial; an all out brawl. Should be pretty neat filler. That means Verde is last. Considering Verde has been fucking with them since the beginning of the trials, who knows what his actual trial will be.
By the look of the flashback, Reborn could have been a baby for at least as long as Aria's been alive. Speaking of which, she's hot.
I was expecting Reborn's trial to be last and only a one-on-one with Tsuna. Glad I was wrong. Reborn is gonna trash 'em.
Verde being last is great. He's going to really screw with the Vongola.
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Im hoping it wont turn out X-Burner vs Reborn's charge attack like Colonello's >_>
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Have a crazy theory that just popped into my head (considering all the factors) regarding the Arcobaleno:
Luce is the mother of all the Arcobaleno, not just Aria and Uni. At the incident ~20 years ago, after birthing Aria, she absorbed and rebirthed (with the help of Dr. Shamal, according to Reborn) all the Arcobaleno candidates, bestowing them a part of her power (and her curse). The reason being was that because the adult mind is impure, it can't handle the curse of the great power the elemental pacifiers bestow. As babies, they would be pure and clean (Tabula Rasa), so they could more easily handle the power. Being one of the most powerful female bosses of the mafia world, Luce was chosen to "rebirth" these individuals as children, where the power of the pacifiers would contain them as such. Even though she was pregnant with her own daughter at the time, she accepted.
She then reverted into a child herself, but unfortunately the stress eventually killed her sometime later. Aria, not having inherited the sky pacifier immediately, was able to grow up, and thus was able to age unlike the rest of the Arcobaleno. Then Aria, having become an adult already, took on the Sky Pacifier. Unfortunately, the stress of the power as an adult was too much, and eventually killed her. Her daughter Uni, however, still being young, was able to contain the power much better (so far), and is seemingly unaffected by the curse.
My Evidence:
1. Reborn refers to Uni as the Boss of the Arcobaleno. Being that she is the Sky Element, that makes the most sense. It also means that she inherited the title from Aria and Luche, who both died from an unspecified illness. That illness could have easily been the Arcobaleno curse.
2. Being that the sky element is the strongest of the elements, while it grants the most power, it could also cause the most backlash (thus, why Luce and Aria died and all of the Arcobaleno in the present are still alive).
3. Luce means Light in Italian. What is a Rainbow (Arcobaleno) but light refracting in an arc?
4. Luce is the only Boss of any Family to become one of the original Arcobaleno. The rest were all the most trusted agents of their respective families.
5. Regardless of their relationships with each other, none of the Arcobaleno have been negative toward Luce or her family, and Reborn was even her friend. Except for Lal Mirch and Colonnello, Reborn's relationships with the other Arcobaleno have been sketchy at best, and Colonello is more of a friendly rival at best.
6. Luce was pregnant even as they were climbing the mountain in Lal Mirch's flashback. When she reverted to her infant form, she was not. Which means she had to have given birth to Aria then and there, anyway. This also means that Aria was born at the same time as the Arcobaleno.
Until we get the truth, this is my theory on the Arcobaleno and I'm sticking to it.
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@Fire Fist:
6. Luce was pregnant even as they were climbing the mountain in Lal Mirch's flashback. When she reverted to her infant form, she was not. Which means she had to have given birth to Aria then and there, anyway. This also means that Aria was born at the same time as the Arcobaleno.
The colour pages shows that Luce was still pregnant when in baby form.
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@Fire Fist:
Next is Reborn's trial; an all out brawl. Should be pretty neat filler. That means Verde is last. Considering Verde has been fucking with them since the beginning of the trials, who knows what his actual trial will be.
weird because if you watch the OP the Arcobaleno they've shown have gone in order of the trials so i assumed sense verde was second to last and reborn was last that's the way it would have played out
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@123:
The colour pages shows that Luce was still pregnant when in baby form.
No, if you look closely she's not. Besides, how can a baby be pregnant? That's just silly, anyway.
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@Fire Fist:
No, if you look closely she's not. Besides, how can a baby be pregnant? That's just silly, anyway.
look at her adult form though
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look at her adult form though
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How does that explain how Luce is still pregnant when she turned into a baby?
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That's the point of my theory. She gave birth to Aria (and the other Arcobaleno) then and there, just before turning into an Arcobaleno. If you're going by her baby form, that's just her dress. Skull looks more pregnant than she does by that logic.
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Who knows maybe you're right. But i still think that she gave birth to Aria after being a arcobaleno ( dun ask me how ) or not why would Aria have the acrobaleno curse on her. Unless of course Luce had it in her before she turned into acrobaleno .
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@123:
Who knows maybe you're right. But i still think that she gave birth to Aria after being a arcobaleno ( dun ask me how ) or not why would Aria have the acrobaleno curse on her. Unless of course Luce had it in her before she turned into acrobaleno .
never thought of it that way, nice job
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thank you chopperman
! so byakuran needs uni in order to successfully work the power of the tri^7 interesting
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ugh so the fight just gets delayed again damn it
EDIT: although byakuran was more bad ass this chapter
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Great no CHOICE again.She build the hype of CHOICE and it happens to be like this >_>
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for someone who hates the mafia mukuro sure does alot for the vongola family his attitude reminds me of piccolo
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Now that they're back in the town, Gamma will probably show up to protect Uni. I'm not sure how much help he'll be, though.
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@123:
Great no CHOICE again.She build the hype of CHOICE and it happens to be like this >_>
I enjoyed how the end of the game didn't even follow the rules logically. The goal of the target game was for the opponents flame to be extinguished, which happened to both targets at the same time. The fact that one came back and relit it later shouldn't matter. To quote the translation:
"If the target marker disappears for any reason, that side loss the battle."
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^ Yea i understand and feel for what you are saying.
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wait…so did the vongola win?
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no they lost but everything was scraped when uni revealed what she can do
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@Shaman:
no they lost but everything was scraped when uni revealed what she can do
I know they lost but from what wagomu and 123 were saying it had me second guessing.
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I was saying that the real result would have been the original result of a draw according to the rules.
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149 is out.
So that's what Skull looks like as a baby without his helmet. Interesting. And notice that Luce isn't pregnant during Reborn's initial flashback. I'm 90% convinced that he is Aria's father, now.
Episode also explains why pre-Arcobaleno Reborn is a completely different person than his current self. Also puts him at a completely different level than the others.
That was a really good episode, yes.
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Honestly speaking there was nothing really special other then the flashbacks of the arcobaleno. The fighting/trial was just so unreal and kind of horrible. Right unreal's the word since it isnt 'fake'.
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@Fire Fist:
I'm 90% convinced that he is Aria's father, now.
I was thinking about that awhile back, last chapter or something. It would explain why Uni called Reborn Grandpa as well.
I'm liking this little Arcobaleno arc, but I'm curious to see how the manga approach to this.
Reborn just became more epic in my opinion.
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So you are right, my bad : D
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I was saying that the real result would have been the original result of a draw according to the rules.
Oh I see I completly misunderstood.
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I must say i enjoyed the last episode a lot.
Sure it wasn't 'for real', but seeing Reborn single-handed blocking Hibari, delivering punches, uppercuts and what not was a joy. Let alone all the always interesting Arcobaleno flashbacks. Reborn's reaction after seeing his new body was very interesting, and made sense.
Btw, they're REALLY implying Aria is his daughter, it's not even funny anymore. -
wow so that's why he's called reborn he erased his memories to help him deal with his new body and forget the sadness he felt and he was literally reborn because of that
at least that's what i think happened…. correct me if i'm wrong
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wow so that's why he's called reborn he erased his memories to help him deal with his new body and forget the sadness he felt and he was literally reborn because of that
at least that's what i think happened…. correct me if i'm wrong
I've been thinking that too. Nobody actually refers to him by name before he's a baby; the only one who even addresses him is Aria, who calls him "Mr. Hitman". It's possible Reborn is just an alias he assumed after he was literally "Reborn", sort of like how Viper goes by Mammon now.
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http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53117
! Tsuna and gang returns safely to namimori(i'm very bad at reading names but i assume it to be namimori since its returns safely to insert name)
Byakuran and FW chases after Tsuna and co through the damaged transportation system. The system was damaged by Goku
Dino and Hibari heads to school.
Vongola's underground base is being invaded by the FWs.
! Its being mentioned that insert name island is having CHOICE.
Note: Im horrible at reading names.I can only rmb Tsuna, Uni, Byakuran,Reborn and Hibari's name w/o any text reference. The direct translation of the island name would be no man island.
EDIT:I checked it up. Its Gokudera.
Thanks kuniyoshi_kaka for jp-ch translation. -
oh yeah if someone can translate better
表紙 ディーノと雲雀
ボックス兵器を従えて この二人に死角無し!!!
ターゲット257 並盛
白蘭の手からユニを守るため並盛へ帰還!!
並盛町ツナ、木に逆さ『いつつ や…やった!!
並盛に…ワープできたぞ!!』
寺『10代目!!大丈夫っスか!?』
ツナ『そうだ!!基地ユニットの中のみんなは!?』ユニ『ふんじゃってごめんなさい』
ランボ『今度はランボさんがふんじゃうもんね!』
ランボはユニに踏まれたららしい?『大丈夫か?正一』
入江『ああ… それよりユニさん
あの超炎リング転送システムは他にあるのかい?』
ユニ『いえ たしかあれ1つです』
入江『よしいいぞ!!すぐに転送システムを破壊するんだ!!
そうすれば敵の追ってはこれないはずだ!!』寺『でしたら10代目!!オレにまかせてください』
ツナ『獄寺君!』寺『炎が吸収されるんなら新兵器の実弾を使います』
寺の腕からミサイル?
寺『ターゲットロック!! 果てろ 赤炎の弾!!(フレイムミサイル)』
転送システムに当たる
ツナ『すごい 当たったよ!!』
寺『マ…マグレッス♪』?『(転送システム)民家のない山に落ちます』
リボン『これで時間が稼げたな』
ツナ『よかった!』?『これで一安心ですね~~~~…ところで我々は
今までどこにいたんでしょう?』
ユニ『チョイスが行われていたのは 無人島です』
ツナ『え!? 島?』
ユニ『白蘭は誰にも発見されてない 無人島を改造してアジトの一つにしたんです
日本からは ずっと遠くにあります』
ツナ『まだ見つかってない島があったなんて…』
?『恐らく白蘭の能力を使ったんでしょう』転送システム 消える
ツナ『き…! 消えた!!』
山本『どーいうことだ!?』
ディーノ『白蘭の元へ戻ったな 破壊できてなかったのか』
リボン『マズイな またすぐに敵を乗せて戻って来るかもしんねーぞ』
ツナ『そんなっ すぐ来ちゃうのー!?』
リボン『あまり時間はねえ どーするか決めろツナ』
ツナ『そんなこと言われても!!』草壁『みなさーーん!!
無事に帰ったということはかったのですね!!』
地面から出てくる草壁
ツナ『地面から草壁さんーーーー!?
あっ そっか 神社の地下ってヒバリさんのアジトだった!!』
草壁『祝杯をあげましょう』
ツナ『いや…それどころじゃないんです!!ヤバイ敵が追ってきてて!!』
草壁『てっ敵!?事情はわかりませんが ひとまず地下のボンゴレアジトに
戻られてはいかがでしょう ここからもアジトへつながっています!!』
ツナ『そっそうだ!! ボンゴレアジトなら安全だ!!』周りが光る
寺『転送システムが戻ってきやがった!!』
ツナ『ええーーー!!もおーーーー!?』転送システムから 四方へ光が
ツナ『来たーーーーー!!!』
山本『四方に何か散ったぜ!』
光が分散?『転送システムは壊れる寸前だったんだ だから着地に失敗して四方にちったのかも』
リボン『どっちみち 奴らは来たぞ』
ツナ『ヤバイよ!! どーしよー!!?』走り出す雲雀
草壁『恭さん!!どちらへ!!』
雲雀『一つ並中のほうに落ちた 見てくる』
ツナ、山本、寺(この人あくまで学校が一番なのねーー!!)ポカーン顔
草壁『私も行きます!!』
ディーノ『恭弥っ オレも行くぜ!!』
ツナ『ディーノさんも!?』
ディーノ『どのみち戦う相手だ 分散しているほうが倒しやすい』
ツナ『ディーノさん!! あの…オレは…どうしたら!?』
ディーノ『お前はまずユニを安全なアジトへつれていけ!!
…そして あの感じじゃ必ず白蘭もくる ここをうまく凌げば奴を
倒すチャンスもきっとあるぜ』
ツナ『え!!』 ドキン
ディーノ『だがまずはユニの安全確保だ!! 後で会おうな!!』
前を向いて走り出す~~が前地面なく 長い階段から転び落ちる
ツナ『ディーノさん!?』
山本『相変わらず部下の前じゃねーと シマんねーのな』
寺『超ダセー』階段下
ロマーリオ『なんだボス戻ってたのかよ 草壁と飲む酒買ってたんだ』
ディーノ『…ロマーリオ… こーしちゃいられねー 並中へ行くぞ
ついてこい!!』
ロマーリオ『ういっ』ツナ『オ…オレ達も急いで ユニを地下のボンゴレアジトへつれていこうか…』
寺『了解っス』
山本『オッケ』
りぼん『奴らの対策はアジトで練ればいいしな』
ツナ『う…うん ラルにも状況を伝えなきゃ』
スクアーロ『通信室をかせ!! クソボスに報告して救援を頼む』アジトにて
ツナ『ここまでくれば安心だよ!』
?七三チビ男『我々のアジトは敵から発見されにくいですし
万が一発見されても堅牢なセキュリティで簡単には侵入できませんからね』
りぼん『自分家だと思って くつろいでいいからな』
ユニ『すみません… みなさんに迷惑かけます…』
ツナ『そっ そんなこと気にしなくても…』
ハル『そーです!!女の敵は私達の敵です!!』
京子『うん!』
ユニ笑顔で『ありがとうございます』
ビアンキ『とりあえず みんな着替えたらどうかしら?
ずっと正装では肩が凝るわ ユニの服も探しましょうね』
ツナ『そ…そうだね』
ユニ『はい!』通信室にて
スクアーロ『そおだあ!!腕の立つ奴を すぐ日本へ送れえ!!』
ルッス?『そんなこと急に言われてもーーーーーーーーーーん』
スク『敵んぽ主力がこの並盛に集まって来てんだぞお!!』
ルッス『それはとってもソソる話だけど ヴァリアーは今
各地で行われた ミルフィオーレとの戦いの後始末やら残党狩りで
てんてこまいなのよ』
スク『んなの後回しにしろお!!フランはそーした!!奴の幻術が必要だあ!!』
ルッス(フラン…?えーっと)『あの子たしか女のところへ行くっていってたわねえ』
スク『女だあ!?』
ルッス『名前はなんて言ったかしら たしか ダブリューダ…』
スク『あんのクソガキイ いいからつれてこおい!!』
ルッス『あら?』
スク『うおおい!ルッスどおしたあ!?』
モニター切れるハル下着姿でランボとイーピン追う
京子着替えてる緊急サイレンが鳴り響く
ユニ『?』
男部屋
ツナ『何だ!?』廊下、壁が壊れる
みんな廊下に出てくる
京子『ツナ君!!』
ビアンキ『何なの?』
ツナ『分からないよ!!』スク『うお゛おいっ!!何事だあ!!』
ツナ『スクアーロ!』スクアーロ後ろの壁が崩れる(壊れる)
そこから~~~~白蘭(真6弔花)といた人。あまりにも早き襲来っ!!!
真6弔花がユニに…迫る!!!DONDON
完!!
EDIT: oh jez forgot to just use edit on previous post my bad
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honestly, I wish I could help with the translation.
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Mangahelpers has my latest translation.
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@123:
Mangahelpers has my latest translation.
thanks
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and new spoiler translations
! Tsuna and co returns safely to namimori.
Uni says sorry to Lambo for stepping on Lambo. And Lambo says he wants to step on Uni.
Irie asks Uni if there are other transportation system. Uni says that she remembers that there is only one.
Irie suggests destroying the transportation system. Gokudera volunteers using some kind of bullet.
Uni says that just now when CHOICE was taking place they were on the island . That island is a yet-to-be-discovered island that serves as a base for Byakuran. That island is located at a place far away from Japan.
Tsuna: There is even a undiscovered island!?
?: Im afraid that’s the power of Byakuran.
The transportation system disappears.
Tsuna: It disappeared!
Yama:What’s going on?
Dino: It seems to have returned to Byakuran, does it mean that the system isn’t being destroyed?
Reborn: This is bad , the enemy can arrive here any time.
! Kusakube shows up.
Kusakube: Welcome back! The fact that you are here means that we have won!
Tsuna: Eh? Kusakube came out from the ground? Oh that’s right at the bottom is Hibari’s base(the temple)
Kusakube: Let us celebrate!
Tsuna: No, its not time for that ! The enemy is chasing after us!
Kusakube: Enemy? Even though I don’t know what is going on, lets return to the vongola’s underground base.
Tsuna: Yes, the underground base is very safe.
! The surrounding is filled with light.
Gokudera: The transportation system is back!
The transportation system spews out light at the four corners.
?: Its because the transportation system is being damaged, which is why light is being spilled out at the four corners.
Reborn: No matter what, these people will still come.
Tsuna: That’s bad. What should we do?
! Hibari heads to school. Kusakuba , Dino and his henchman Romario follows. Earlier on Romario said that he was buying beer with Kusakuba.
Dino asks Tsuna to head to underground base and protects Uni .
Dino follows Hibari as Dino said that we might fight any time any where, and that “ So if we’re separated it’ll be easier for us to be defeated”
! Yama: We’ll think of a way to fight them at the base.
Squalo: Lend me use your communication system, I need to contact our boss that bastard and ask him for reinforcements.
! At base.
Someone: This base will not be located that easily. And even if this base is found there are security systems all over this base. There’s no way that we’ll be invaded so easily.
Reborn: Treat this place as your home.
Uni: Sorry to trouble you guys.
Tsuna: No worries.
Haru/Kyoko: That’s right!The enemy of women is our enemy
Kyoku/Haru: Yea. ( Once again I mixed up the names of Haru and Kyoko. If Haru said the sentence above this, this sentence is said by Kyoko.)
! At communication room.
Squalo: Those who are confident, come to Japan immediately!
Lussuria: That’s interesting but we’re still very busy taking care of the aftermath of the battle against Milli.
Squalo: Gah what a situation. Where’s Fran? We did that guy’s illusion.
Lussuria: [Eh Fran?Umm] That boy is at that woman’s place ( Something along the lines)
Squalo: Woman!?
Lussuria: Her names seems to be W…
Squalo: That bastard! Call him here at once!
Squalo: Whats wrong? Lussuria!
Communication got cut.
! Haru/ Kyoko chases I-Pin and Lambo in her undergarments ( Once again I mixed up the names. Im pretty sure its Haru though.)
Kyoko/Haru is changing her clothes ( I think its Kyoko . Same thing here if in the previous line is haru here would be Kyoko. )
! Alarm Sounds.
Everyone gathers at the corridor.
Bianchi: Whats happening?
Tsuna: I don’t know.
Squalo: Vooi. Whats going on?
The wall behind Squalo collapse. Byakuran and the 6 FWs arrives!
This is too fast!
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just read the chapter. the way they organized and acted felt like they were in a mafia