Also the gold doesn't bother me. It really doesn't look bad.
New official Viz media topic V2.
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The no artwork edits streak isn't going to last long. Law's finger will be edited.
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If it's any consolation whenever VIZ changes something in the manga they always consult the original author for approval.
If anyone reading this is at/going to Comic-Con this week now's the perfect time to let VIZ know about the problems they're unintentionally causing. If I could go I would.
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I just Wish One Piece was uncut.
Instead, we have hardened pirates who say "Darn You".
FUNimation is giving us Uncut One Piece, Viz is not.
…... But on the other hand, they Translate Nakama... I think I'll start buying Viz volumes...
But I already have the whole series in Japanese...
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Man isn't there already a viz editing thread you guys are getting off topic
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We're discussing the Viz manga, it's on topic. I made that other one for other Viz manga.
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I don't have a problem with the viz version of the manga. It's what introduced me to One Piece. Name changes and the like don't bother me. Merry Go was there since before the 4kids dub, Zolo, while still annoying, I've gotten used to, Kami, disappointed it ain't god but what can you do? Devil Fruit names, I don't mind as long as they don't start using Cursed Fruit, Roguetown, um, honestly it doesn't really bother me. I got used to them with DBZ. Editing dialog to make it more acceptable in mass retailers, it's fine with me as long as I get my OP fix. They're just doing what it takes to maximize profits.
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I wish Viz would lighten up. Funi's got no restraint. I think a few "damns" and "asses" aren't that bad, let alone "god."
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Discussing my ass. You're just all-and-out bitching like how most anime/manga fans do about the most trivial things.
Really. Maybe Smoker's line is understandable. But now you're "COMPLAINING" (which you ARE doing, don't try to sugar coat it with the word "discussion") about "Wyper".
WYPER. FUCKING WYPER.
Seriously, you complain about that, then what else is there to complain about? Hmm? I think you just knocked the most petty one out the goddamn park.
God, I hate this fandom sometimes….
STOP BITCHING GUYS, GOD I FUCKING HATE PEOPLE BITCHING ABOUT INCONSEQUENTIAL THINGS! GUYS STOP! I DONT LIKE WHAT YOUR DOING! GOD DAMN IT I HATE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THINGS!
If you were smart enough to understand dramatic irony you would stop posting pronto, but as that's not the case please do continue crashing drunkenly through the jungle of hypocracy you've stumbled into like a buffoon.
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Sure, 'shove off' have the same "impact" as 'eat shit' (WOW, so much more powerful), but they still get the message across. Smoker is disrespecting his superiors, that line sounds pretty rude no matter what, and Tashigi was always a pretty timid character so that line still holds enough weight to fit the artwork. I feel like this is just another case of fans putting too much value in swearing, something that doesn't really happen in Japn, which is why there's so much of it in manga in the first place. It's not a big deal to have those kinds of things in kids' cartoons in Japan, just as it is with a lot of subjects that are taboo for children in America. By resenting this edit so much I think some of you guys are just feeding into that mentality.
Someone needs another look into the English language if "shove off" is supposed to be even relatively as rude as "eat shit." If one is told to "shove off," he will simply take it as a silly way of being told to leave. If one is told to "eat shit," he will take it as an incredibly rude, insulting way of being told to back off and shut up. They don't even mean the same thing. However, that last sentence is still correct.
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Someone needs another look into the English language if "shove off" is supposed to be even relatively as rude as "eat shit." If one is told to "shove off," he will simply take it as a silly way of being told to leave. If one is told to "eat shit," he will take it as an incredibly rude, insulting way of being told to back off and shut up.
Uggh . . .that's not the point I was trying to make :getlost:
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STOP BITCHING GUYS, GOD I FUCKING HATE PEOPLE BITCHING ABOUT INCONSEQUENTIAL THINGS! GUYS STOP! I DONT LIKE WHAT YOUR DOING! GOD DAMN IT I HATE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THINGS!
If you were smart enough to understand dramatic irony you would stop posting pronto, but as that's not the case please do continue crashing drunkenly through the jungle of hypocracy you've stumbled into like a buffoon.
The only jungle I'm wading through is a jungle of disgrunteld anime/manga fans saying the same ol' bullshit they've been saying since day fucking one.
It makes the fandom look ungreatful. That's what i'm getting at.
It's ALOT more important than complaing about fucking WYPER or SHOVE OFF. And if YOU were smart enough, you would realize that. But, no, you will continue to bitch about trivial things and boycott Viz like a loon.
But, whatever.
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Uggh . . .that's not the point I was trying to make :getlost:
I know, but that is the point that others are trying to make. Most of the people complaining (or at least myself) are upset that the changes are taking away from the series, and making it less appealing to all the moronic people that look at Shonen Jump and go, "Yep Naruto is cool, there's DBZ, Bleach, and… One Piece? I thought that was for little kids." My entire Japanese class a year or two ago said that exact line when they saw a Japanese issue of SJ and I was looking at One Piece. And with lines like "shove off," you...!" and "Diggy Diggy Fruit," how can you blame them?
Viz treats One Piece like it's "A buncha fun lovin', silly willy pirates with their wacky adventures in big world of silly fun-ness. Isn't that goofy? Huhuhuhueeee!" Meanwhile, Naruto is, "The most badass action with ninjas, coolness, and dark themes ever to be amazing. BUY THIS!!! IT IS THE BEST!" For me, it's not that they edit One Piece, but rather that they treat it second rate. I've bought it since I got into One Piece (4kids did, admittedly) and I don't plan on stopping, even if they change EVERYTHING, so I complain here or to them to blow off steam. This speed up is the first decent thing that they've done if you ask me, and I'll be quite happy to see One Piece lining the shelves instead of having a full bookshelf full of freaking Naruto. ... Yes, I'm somewhat bitter when it comes to Naruto.
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Viz changes a LOT MORE than FUNi…. by far...
yeaH But..going by terms of skypia
Funi:king-Knights
Viz:Kamiin my terms..Viz had 3 translations that god me a little upset..the rest..meh no big deal.
im not complaning though..
and doesnt DOOM have the same effect as DON or no?and was it Windmill island in the original for luffys homeisland?
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yeaH But..going by terms of skypia
Funi:king-Knights
Viz:Kamiin my terms..Viz had 3 translations that god me a little upset..the rest..meh no big deal.
im not complaning though..
and doesnt DOOM have the same effect as DON or no?and was it Windmill island in the original for luffys homeisland?
But that was when Funi had to censor things. They are re-dubbing everything uncut, so God and priests will be staying.
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Smoker is disrespecting his superiors, that line sounds pretty rude no matter what, and Tashigi was always a pretty timid character so that line still holds enough weight to fit the artwork.
If it was Tashigi with him it'd be a bit different. But as I said, it's Hina.
The only jungle I'm wading through is a jungle of disgrunteld anime/manga fans saying the same ol' bullshit they've been saying since day fucking one.
It makes the fandom look ungreatful. That's what i'm getting at.
Why, do Viz give away books for free now?
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Why, do Viz give away books for free now?
How many posts in this thread have been dedicated to complaining about Viz ignoring One Piece unlike Naruto? Now the speed up is going to finally happen, and people are still complaining about it.
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If it was Tashigi with him it'd be a bit different. But as I said, it's Hina.
Wasn't Tashigi in that scene too? I could've sworn that's what I remember.
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Doesn't anyone else besides me suspect that, "shove off" might only be for the magazine, and that the eventual volume might say, "eat crap" or something to that degree?
Not that it really matters…
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Doesn't anyone else besides me suspect that, "shove off" might only be for the magazine, and that the eventual volume might say, "eat crap" or something to that degree?
Not that it really matters…
Good point. We can only pray. And we'll know come September.
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The only jungle I'm wading through is a jungle of disgrunteld anime/manga fans saying the same ol' bullshit they've been saying since day fucking one.
It makes the fandom look ungreatful. That's what i'm getting at.
It's ALOT more important than complaing about fucking WYPER or SHOVE OFF. And if YOU were smart enough, you would realize that. But, no, you will continue to bitch about trivial things and boycott Viz like a loon.
But, whatever.
Yup. Honestly, before this whole speedup was even announced, I haven't seen people complaining about Zolo for a while. Now that they announced a speed up, they somehow think they can get Viz to change back to some original terms. Why the hell? It took Viz forever just to realize they need to do a speedup. What makes you think they'll change a few terms?
You guys should be used to it by now. I am. Before, everyone used to complain about the terms. Then Naruto got a speedup. So that made people complain One Piece was behind while the term complaining stayed pretty mute. Then now once a speedup is announced, people have to find SOMETHING to resort to, even if it's an old subject.
Viz is finally doing something good, so be happy about that. It's just a few terms that are changed. Big deal. Like I said, you should be used to them by now, so just suck it up and try to support One Piece in America.
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Another thing, if you want to send a complaint to VIZ about how they're not using the original terms/names, you should send proof of the original ones. It helped get the original names/terms on FUNimation's DVDs.
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How many posts in this thread have been dedicated to complaining about Viz ignoring One Piece unlike Naruto? Now the speed up is going to finally happen, and people are still complaining about it.
Ok.
Viz is a business. So we're buying their books. A decent localisation effort is to be expected. In fairness, they get the majority right. But when that fails to happen, people should complain. It's good for people to note it here, because this is the Viz one piece topic.
Wasn't Tashigi in that scene too? I could've sworn that's what I remember.
She was in the page, but not in the scene.
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Ok guys.
People who like Viz are getting upset, so we're ONLY ALLOWED TO SAY GOOD THINGS FROM NOW ON!! Seriously people, only good things.
While we're at it, lets go to a Star Wars forum and tell them to shut up about Han shooting first. They aren't allowed to think the Special Editions are bad, they should be grateful George Lucas is allowing them to watch ANY Star Wars, even if it's not Anamorphic Widescreen.
And Hey, why stop there? Lets march into the Republican HQ and tell them to lay off the Democrats, then we go into the Democrat HQ and tell THEM to lay off the Republicans.
Because apparently, nobody is allowed to criticize anybody anymore.
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Hey now, everything is allowed. Complaining, praising, complaining about people complaining instead of praising, complaining about people praising instead of complaining, Complaining for the sakes of complaining, trolling, sarcasm, petty jabs, ect. It's part of the internet's invisible rulebook.
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The only jungle I'm wading through is a jungle of disgrunteld anime/manga fans saying the same ol' bullshit they've been saying since day fucking one.
It makes the fandom look ungreatful. That's what i'm getting at.
It's ALOT more important than complaing about fucking WYPER or SHOVE OFF. And if YOU were smart enough, you would realize that. But, no, you will continue to bitch about trivial things and boycott Viz like a loon.
But, whatever.
fucking lolllll
This hypocrite piece of shit thinks whining at people complaining about comic book alterations is IMPORTANT.
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fucking lolllll
This hypocrite piece of shit thinks whining at people complaining about comic book alterations is IMPORTANT.
If people want to complain, let them. There's no problem in people voicing their opinions.
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It's not as bad as this:
Who cares. I'll post when I see fit unless the mods say otherwise.
As if you need a mod to tell you to stop running around chucking feces with a fish hanging out of your trousers.
But yeah, back on topic, I'm composing a list of translation oddities for my email to Viz.
So far:
Smoker's line
Merry-go(4kids are gone, so…)
Kami/vassals(though I'm assuming they're not allowed to, worth a shot anyway)
Rougetown(it'll get another mention at Water Seven)
Zolo(Asking if there's any reason they can't trademark "Roranoa Zoro")Anyone got any others?
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fucking lolllll
This hypocrite piece of shit thinks whining at people complaining about comic book alterations is IMPORTANT.
Big surprise. You didn't get it.
Well, we're done here. You are anyways, after that post.
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What happened here ??
The last time I saw this thread everyone was happy and joyous and over the moon because of the speed-up, what went wrong ?
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If people want to complain, let them. There's no problem in people voicing their opinions.
Thanks again for following along with what's going on Captain Hypersock!
Big surprise. You didn't get it.
Well, we're done here. You are anyways, after that post.
I think I got it more then you did.
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What happened here ??
The last time I saw this thread everyone was happy and joyous and over the moon because of the speed-up, what went wrong ?
"Anime/Manga Fans".
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Fine.
It's condescending. But that's just how most of them are. I've been scared by the more annoying ones, I suppose.
And FYI, just because you tack "civil" to the end, doesn't make it so. This bullshit was happening before I even posted.
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Smore started being incredibly condescending to people giving civil criticism of Viz's translation.
See?
Ahh, Is sees, btw Darkstorm, congrats on your promotion !
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Wrong.
It's not condescending. That's just how most of them are. Travel the internet.
These aren't the same ideas being expressed in the two parts of the sentence.
Now go the fuck back to Toonzone.And FYI, just because you tack "civil" to the end, doesn't make it so. This bullshit was happening before I even posted.
You were posting horrible posts before you even posted?
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See, like this guy right here. This is the kind of annoying fan I'm talking about.
Didn't you hear? We're done.
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See, like this guy right here. This is the kind of annoying fan I'm talking about.
I don't give a fuck what Viz does with One Piece, I haven't bought there OP volumes since 2005. I only care what they do to their excellent Vagabond releases.
I'm calling you out for being an irritating bloodsucking gnat that won't stop buzzing around the thread while being a hilarious living contradiction.
Didn't you hear? We're done.
You don't finish with me, I finish with you.
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Well said.
Anyway, to try once more to bring things back on topic, I'm composing a list of translation oddities for my email to Viz.
So far:
Smoker's line
Merry-go(4kids are gone, so…)
Kami/vassals(though I'm assuming they're not allowed to, worth a shot anyway)
Rougetown(it'll get another mention at Water Seven)
Zolo(Asking if there's any reason they can't trademark "Roranoa Zoro")Anyone got any others?
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It's not as bad as this:
As if you need a mod to tell you to stop running around chucking feces with a fish hanging out of your trousers.
But yeah, back on topic, I'm composing a list of translation oddities for my email to Viz.
So far:
Smoker's line
Merry-go(4kids are gone, so…)
Kami/vassals(though I'm assuming they're not allowed to, worth a shot anyway)
Rougetown(it'll get another mention at Water Seven)
Zolo(Asking if there's any reason they can't trademark "Roranoa Zoro")Anyone got any others?
-Skypea's terms. It's been aired on TV with 4-Kid's terms in America, but Funi had an uncut version with all the correct ones that aired in AU. Viz has no reason to stick with 4-Kid's terms unless they make a mistake or planned on translating those terms as soon as the episodes aired. Giving them a heads up instead of waiting for dissapointment would be good.
From there, I don't really know what.
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They use "shandians" in the previews on their site, so I'm guessing they went their own way on that.
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I don't give a fuck what Viz does with One Piece, I haven't bought there OP volumes since 2005. I only care what they do to their excellent Vagabond releases.
I'm calling you out for being an irritating bloodsucking gnat that won't stop buzzing around the thread while being a hilarious living contradiction.
You don't finish with me, I finish with you.
You're finished. In more ways than one.
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Well said.
Anyway, to try once more to bring things back on topic, I'm composing a list of translation oddities for my email to Viz.
So far:
Smoker's line
Merry-go(4kids are gone, so…)
Kami/vassals(though I'm assuming they're not allowed to, worth a shot anyway)
Rougetown(it'll get another mention at Water Seven)
Zolo(Asking if there's any reason they can't trademark "Roranoa Zoro")Anyone got any others?
What about Camie … ?
They seem to be going with Keimei at the moment ...
Maybe you could ask for confirmation or soemthing if that's what they'll use .. Are people happy with that ? Or do the majority want Camie ? -
My copy of Vol. 21 says ''Camie''.
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What about Camie … ?
They seem to be going with Keimei at the moment ...
Maybe you could ask for confirmation or soemthing if that's what they'll use .. Are people happy with that ?Keimi is the correct translation of her name. So Viz are good here.
My copy of Vol. 21 says ''Camie''.
T'will be interesting to see if they change it or not. Camie is ok as a localisation anyway. Was her name in funi's single subbed episode? Can't remember what they used…
Or do the majority want Camie ?
The majority want Shichibukai and Haki, so they're best ignored.
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They use "shandians" in the previews on their site, so I'm guessing they went their own way on that.
Okay, that's good.
What about Don instead of Doom? Minor I know.
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Doom makes the same sound as is, and there wouldn't be enough letters to neatly stretch ''DON'' across the page like its Japanese chaarcters are.
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My copy of Vol. 21 says ''Camie''.
Does it really, i remember someone here saying that in the coverstory they had put it as Keimei and Pappug as Pappagu … ?
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In the magaize it said ''Keimei'', but in the volume it said Camie. I don't quite remember for sure about Pappag, but I think they used ''Pappagu'' both times.