@Zik:
Not saying she will join nor do if care if she does(if she does there'll need to be changes) but the arguments for and against just aren't that strong.
If they ever were, then there would never be any disputes.
@Zik:
Not saying she will join nor do if care if she does(if she does there'll need to be changes) but the arguments for and against just aren't that strong.
If they ever were, then there would never be any disputes.
If they ever were, then there would never be any disputes.
I'm talking about in comparison to the stuff ppl have concocted for Jimbei, Hancock, etc.
@Zik:
It doesn't matter. When they reunite some focus will be on Zoro's condition. He'll probably mention Perona nursing him back to health. She could've had the most evil intentions but if Luffy hears that she's automatically not such a bad person after all lol. Zoro could even say after that she probably only did for her own safety and it wouldn't matter to Luffy at least
Shame on you underestimating Luffy's simple mindedness and naivety. Only thing that'd change that situation is if she later on full revealed that she was a bad person and went against the SHs again but it'd have to be much worse that what she already did.
Not saying she will join nor do I care if she does(if she does there'll need to be changes) but the arguments for and against just aren't that strong.
Anyone who thinks Perona will join or has a chance of joining is delusional if they think that whiny, spoiled, doll-loving bitch is gonna join the crew, Hancock and Jimbei have a better chance!!! Hell, Mr. 2 has a better chance!!!
Furthermore, anybody who thinks a pathetic weekling who's so full of himself that he makes shit up to scare his enemies could be a Strawhat is also crazy.
See what I did there?
@Thousand:
Hell, Mr. 2 has a better chance!!!
Mr. 2 does not have a better chance.. or any chance for that matter
Why?
Cause he is dead!:sad:
See what I did there?
Love the sarcasm made me smile lol
Ivakov, Pell, and Igaram all came a lot closer to death. Which is to say, we actually saw their would-be methods of death. Bentham was just dancing around a lot.
Furthermore, anybody who thinks a pathetic weekling who's so full of himself that he makes shit up to scare his enemies could be a Strawhat is also crazy.
See what I did there?
Yeah but Usopp was set up to be a great character. In an entire arc Perona has shown herself to be nothing but a selfish, self-serving, spoiled, spiteful, bitchy, bratty little ugh… I hate her so much>< Plus her powers too broken. Also she's laaaaame.
@Thatguy23--:
Mr. 2 does not have a better chance.. or any chance for that matter
Why?
Cause he is dead!:sad:
Exactly;)
It's nothing Zoro can't fix.
Oh yeah, ODA KILLS HIS CHARACTERS. How could I forget?
@Thousand:
Anyone who thinks Perona will join or has a chance of joining is delusional if they think that whiny, spoiled, doll-loving bitch is gonna join the crew, Hancock and Jimbei have a better chance!!! Hell, Mr. 2 has a better chance!!!
You sound stupid.
See what I didn't do there?
lawls
@Thousand:
Anyone who thinks Perona will join or has a chance of joining is delusional if they think that whiny, spoiled, doll-loving bitch is gonna join the crew, Hancock and Jimbei have a better chance!!! Hell, Mr. 2 has a better chance!!!
Anyone who thinks Hancock will join or has a chance of joining is delusional if they think that whiny, spoiled, Luffy-loving bitch is gonna join the crew, Perona and Margaret have a better chance!!! Hell, Pell has a better chance!!!
I love this damn site.
Anyone who thinks Hancock will join or has a chance of joining is delusional if they think that whiny, spoiled, Luffy-loving bitch is gonna join the crew, Perona and Margaret have a better chance!!! Hell, Pell has a better chance!!!
margaret? who the heck is that.. i mean.. i cant even remember her role besides being the one who found luffy..
hancock on the other hand..has a cute personality/character that can provide a lot of funny interactions with the crew.
Only way I see Hancock becoming a SH is if somehow the marines and/or the WG find out she helped Luffy and is therefore stripped of her Shichibukai status. And I honestly would'nt doubt it that she would join seeing as if she's not with Luffy she will die (supposedly, from Nyos little stupid speech) plus she could teach Luffy how to control his Haki (if that is at all possible not sure if u can really teach it.. but anyways):wassat:
uhh.. only problem i see with boa becoming a SH is that her style is way off.. she wouldn't fit in at all, gotta tone down the sexy a bit, be a little more casual. now that i wrote this I actually do believe that Boa Hancock has a high possibility of becoming a strawhat.
edit: Actually her personality is annoying cuz she thinks she's better than everybody, but I guess that could change
Everyone needs to stop seriously discussing the possibility of Hancock joining. You're fucking scaring me!
I may be missing something and if i am someone tell me but I don't get this idea of one of the 7 warlords joining the straw hat crew. come on think about it your part of one of the 3 great powers in the world why would you give that up to join a random pirate crew at a position lower then captain that would make no sense.
I wouldn't mind Perona joining that much. Treating Zoro's wounds showed a different side of her that hadn't been displayed so far and she has potential to improve…
I would definitely prefer her to Hancock, who would annoy the hell out of me...
Also, Jimbei joining would be pretty boring and predictable. I like Jimbei and all but I don't think he's the best option at this point...
For one thing, the next nakama had better be a girl, otherwise the gender inbalance would get too big. I thought Margaret would be a perfect canidate when she was introduced, but then they shafted her pretty fast and she became that arc's Conis or Caimie.
It would probably be best if noone joins for a while, at least until the crew gets back together and then a totally new character joins. I'm sure Oda can come up with someone awesome...
@Zombie:
why would you give that up to join a random pirate crew at a position lower then captain that would make no sense.
ugh i tried to get the page in the manga where nyo explains that if Boa isnt with Luffy she will die of heartache or sumthing like that but my computer lagged.. anyway yea thats why.
And also i doubt boa is gonna be a shichibukai for long… not only is she not going to fight in the war against Whitebeard which alone puts her in danger of losing her title but she also helped Luffy literaly destroy Impel Down.
edit:Also Hancock loves Luffy
Marguerite was a walking, talking plot device who barely got any development or personality in the few chapters she was allowed to speak. I don't know why people are still obsessed with her.
@Thatguy23--:
edit: Actually her personality is annoying cuz she thinks she's better than everybody, but I guess that could change
Although it seems that way on the surface, we have seen she doesn't actually believe that but its a persona she has put up in definance of her past and to keep it from her fellow countrywomen. This persona is so ingrained into her now that she utilizes it subconsciously. If she joins, this is the first thing that will go because the only way she will join is if she actually lets people accept her past and her as her self rather than what people 'assume' she should be. (She fears persecution as an empress by her own countrywomen because of her past, I think most would agree that they would probably accept her even with that past but she won't open up to them :P)
She has way too many unresolved issues for her story to be done completely
margaret? who the heck is that.. i mean.. i cant even remember her role besides being the one who found luffy..
hancock on the other hand..has a cute personality/character that can provide a lot of funny interactions with the crew.
You FAIL…......
lawls
Everyone needs to stop seriously discussing the possibility of Hancock joining. You're fucking scaring me!
Definitely more likely than freakin' Perona joining-_- Seriously, I thought we got over all this Perona joining crap when Kuma punid her.
@Thousand:
Definitely more likely than freakin' Perona joining-_- Seriously, I thought we got over all this Perona joining crap when Kuma punid her.
To be fair, Kuma also punid every current strawhat. :ninja:
And a Pacifista. I wonder where that one went? Hope it landed where Spandam's hospital is. :devil:
To be fair, Kuma also punid every current strawhat. :ninja:
And a Pacifista. I wonder where that one went? Hope it landed where Spandam's hospital is. :devil:
Lol, that'd be funny:P We're probably gonna get a cover story on it though.
Seriously Perona seems most unlikely of the current candidates.
I think it will between Boa, Jimbei or even Margaret… Or maybe something entire different.
everyone can join except Buggy and Perona, they're so annoying….
Seriously Perona seems most unlikely of the current candidates.
I think it will between Boa, Jimbei or even Margaret… Or maybe something entire different.
It'll be a fusion of Hancock and Jimbei known as Jimbcock. That's right, I haven't given up on Jimbcock yet!!!!
We can't say someone won't join ciz we didn't like this person.
But like I said the most likely candidates for now are Boa and Jimbei (Jimbei a bit more) and to some degree Margaret. Or Oda will give us no one now and wait till Fishmen Island.
Perona seems really unlikely. And for Buggy you haven't to worry. He wants to make his own crew xD
EDIT
If a fusion then please the body of Hancock xD LOL
We can't say someone won't join ciz we didn't like this person.
But like I said the most likely candidates for now are Boa and Jimbei (Jimbei a bit more) and to some degree Margaret. Or Oda will give us no one now and wait till Fishmen Island.
Perona seems really unlikely. And for Buggy you haven't to worry. He wants to make his own crew xD
EDIT
If a fusion then please the body of Hancock xD LOL
Why is Perona so unlikely? She's as good a candidate as any, if not better. She is basically alone on an island with Zoro with no clear purpose in mind and she does not seem the type to take care of herself. Unless she meets up with Moria by accident, I don't see why she could not tag along with the Strawhats or join them permanently if the situation arises. I'm not saying it will happen, it's just not impossible.
Hancock and Margaret seem much less likely by comparison. Margaret is at Amazon Lily, so unless the crew decides to return there for some random reason I don't see it happening. Besides, why would they go back to Amazon Lily - it's neither on their way, nor do they have any particular reason to go there. Hancock is a little harder case, but still, she has her own ship and crew and her own kingdom. Just because she is in love with Luffy doesn't mean she'll go with him everywhere. Heck, she left him in ID, didn't she?
Finally, Jimbei is probably the most reasonable option, but that's exactly why I don't think he'll join - because it will be boring and predictable. Besides, Jimbei doesn't seem the type - he's been a Shichibukai, which means he could achieve almost anything he wanted. It's highly unlikely that there is some ambition he has which he could not achieve as a Shichibukai but could as a member of the Strawhat crew. Thus, he does not exactly fit the profile. More likely, after the war he would go to settle the Arlong situation on his own.
Why is Perona so unlikely? She's as good a candidate as any, if not better. She is basically alone on an island with Zoro with no clear purpose in mind and she does not seem the type to take care of herself. Unless she meets up with Moria by accident, I don't see why she could not tag along with the Strawhats or join them permanently if the situation arises. I'm not saying it will happen, it's just not impossible.
Hancock and Margaret seem much less likely by comparison. Margaret is at Amazon Lily, so unless the crew decides to return there for some random reason I don't see it happening. Besides, why would they go back to Amazon Lily - it's neither on their way, nor do they have any particular reason to go there. Hancock is a little harder case, but still, she has her own ship and crew and her own kingdom. Just because she is in love with Luffy doesn't mean she'll go with him everywhere. Heck, she left him in ID, didn't she?
Finally, Jimbei is probably the most reasonable option, but that's exactly why I don't think he'll join - because it will be boring and predictable. Besides, Jimbei doesn't seem the type - he's been a Shichibukai, which means he could achieve almost anything he wanted. It's highly unlikely that there is some ambition he has which he could not achieve as a Shichibukai but could as a member of the Strawhat crew. Thus, he does not exactly fit the profile. More likely, after the war he would go to settle the Arlong situation on his own.
ICo5Ho-iVUc
That's why.
first,talking about the gender of the next new nakama, i think it would ( should ) be girl,
(2 girls between 7 crazy guys that will not be shuch a good idea ) like KiShido said Perona seems not to be good nakama,there is no story or events happened that make her more related to the crew,
and you know it's luffy who decide who will join the group,unless he has any relation with her that's impossible that she'll join them
any way,the most affected caracter with luffy is Boa,he had a little adventure with her,
she helped him to get to Impel down,and maybe she will sacrifie herself for him later, and like we know Oda, i don't think she's gonna die.
margaret will be a good choice too,other way if there is no new revelation with new other caracters, Boa is my favorite next nakama
Perona just not take care of herself? She left the island without Moria and Co.
But it is just my opinion and by the way 2 charac from TB would be a bit too much. And saying that she is with Zoro and that she has some reason to join. Well if that the case than the Okamas chasin Sanji will join or the revoluionaries of Robin will join.
An other case. Saying if Jimbei will join is boring and predictable is a thing that i can't understadn. Besides Robin we always knew which character would join the crew. Sanji, Zoro, Brook, Nami, Ussop, Franky and Chopper all were predictable. And was it boring? I don't think so.
And as you know jimbei said that he probably losed his status and saying he archieved all is BS too. As we know Croc has still ambitions even as he was one Shichibukai. Croc wanted to be pirate king. Did his status helped him… No. So a very weak point.
Agreed which Darklord about Perona joining - She has very original design and powers, but not overpowered. She has some flaws - but there Sanji for her, he can replace and eagerly be zombie for her, serve and be educated by her so Zoro (and Oda) can mock him more ^_^ And dont forget about Usopp. She has dream maybe weird, but still very well defined. Talking about dream - for her it can be caused by some tragic past, maybe in Moria way. If this case - Luffy and Strawhats is only way for her to bring back confidence and have some hope for future.
About Jimbey - well… he is basically boring and way too experienced. I would not expect "Enel face" from him in any given situation so adventures will not amuse him and will not make his heart beat faster. Secondly - he has his island to protect. Thirdly - he is fishman so he need water - but water tank on Sanny not only too small for him, but also... honestly, I prefer some mermaid in it for the aesthetical purposes. Caimie on on other side is adventurer type, has dreams and, what more matter in this case, has enormous "bounty" on her neck. Resemble Franky case? But Tenrybito would not be so "good" as marines, it would be even worse for her than if she become slave in the first place.
@Kishido I didn't find Franky to be predictable at all until it was revealed that he was a member of Tom's Workers. There was a lot of time before that occured in which he appeared to just be an arc villain. The rest of your points seem fine.
The post above me just seems weak. Jinbei seemed fine in ID without water. And, strangely enough, a ship is totally surrounded by water than he can utilize.
The post above me just seems weak. Jinbei seemed fine in ID without water. And, strangely enough, a ship is totally surrounded by water than he can utilize.
What amuse me, is that it can be applied to any fishman.
Right, the logic applies to pretty much all fishpeople and merpeople. I certainly expect to see one join the crew, Jinbei or not.
What about the rest of the post?
Seriously? Fine, at the risk of getting repetitive. The first point is purely opinionated preference and there's no point to argue it, it would be like a battle of fanboys. I've made the point multiple times that his attitude isn't much different from that of Zoro or Robin, and as always the same could be said of them.
The second point about having to protect the island, well we've heard that before. Franky was going to stay to help Water 7, Sanji was going to stay at the restaurant. Nami had a goal to raise 100 mil to buy her village, and everything was thrown in to a blender by the circumstances of the plot. This type of thing is common, so we have no idea what the situation is going to be like when Luffy is ready to leave Fishman Island. The third point I already addressed.
Caimie just seems silly to me, she doesn't even have the ability to take care of herself.
i dont know… it might even be a villian or some one that shows up at the last second, as in not introduced yet. i mean look at robin, nobody even CONSIDERED her, then BAM! she shows up on going merry and people went "wdf"
and look at franky, when he first showed up people thought he was going to be like the big boss of the arc.
so for all we know it could be magellan! O__o
i personally vote impale down :D
strawhat crew: WHAT THE HELL IS THAT LUFFY!?!?!
LUFFY: its our new nakama!!! :D
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My theory about Perona, and thus Zoro's cover story, is this. I think she got really lonely and aggrivated at not having any slaves (as hinted at by the manga pages when Zoro first showed up). Therefore, I think she's nursing him back to health with plans to use her ghosts to force him into submission and become her slave. I think that the first cover page we'll see of Zoro will be him running like hell from the ghosts.
that could become interesting because after awhile Zoro could become used to them and it give him some kind of Iron Confidence, aka, power up.
To clear things about Jimbey has his island to protect - I mean it more in Arabasta way. Its pretty given, that after war, should he die or not, WB and his crew will lose his position as protector of fishman island. In same time many silver medallists and slave-traders will flood Jimbey's homeland. First wave would be horrible and Strawhats will follow their justice. To counter second wave and after-effects of first wave Jimbey will be bound to stay on island like Vivi did. Its give us two points - first - after EL/ID/MHQ incidents all OP world will know meaning of word "nakama" for SH crew. And second - SH's nakama on island.
I'm all for both Hancock and Jimbei joining sheerly for the reaction shots of the crew that their Captain would be crazy enough to take in TWO Shickibukai in his crew. Seriously, of all the dumbass, unbelievable, mind-blowing things Luffy has done, that would be the most insane!!! I wanna see Nami and Usopp in tears >:)
Seriously? Fine, at the risk of getting repetitive. The first point is purely opinionated preference and there's no point to argue it, it would be like a battle of fanboys. I've made the point multiple times that his attitude isn't much different from that of Zoro or Robin, and as always the same could be said of them.
The second point about having to protect the island, well we've heard that before. Franky was going to stay to help Water 7, Sanji was going to stay at the restaurant. Nami had a goal to raise 100 mil to buy her village, and everything was thrown in to a blender by the circumstances of the plot. This type of thing is common, so we have no idea what the situation is going to be like when Luffy is ready to leave Fishman Island. The third point I already addressed.
Caimie just seems silly to me, she doesn't even have the ability to take care of herself.
I meant this part:@Naisho:
About Jimbey - well… he is basically boring and way too experienced. I would not expect "Enel face" from him in any given situation so adventures will not amuse him and will not make his heart beat faster.
I meant this part:
I answered that with my first paragraph. Basically, replace Jinbei's name with Zoro or Robin and see what comes out. As for the followup, it's entirely based on speculation about the outcome of the war, which I don't claim to know. Therefore, it's pointless for me to argue against it.
I think Jinbei does have a pretty good chance of joining the SHs, but only on a temporary basis until they get to Fishman Island, after that he'll most probably stay there to form a new crew to protect his favorite Island or whatever… after all, that seems to be his greatest desire.
As for Peloli, didn't she clearly state that she still wanted to return to Moria? So far all the arguments for her are mostly either assumption based or simply wishful thinking as there really aren't any good hints that she'll be joining at all. Getting stuck on an Island with an Idoit who can't find his way and over bandaging him up doesn't scream out next nakama for me. Most importantly, she really isn't the SH's type at all.
I think Jinbei does have a pretty good chance of joining the SHs, but only on a temporary basis until they get to Fishman Island, after that he'll most probably stay there to form a new crew to protect his favorite Island or whatever… after all, that seems to be his greatest desire.
As for Peloli, didn't she clearly state that she still wanted to return to Moria? So far all the arguments for her are mostly either assumption based or simply wishful thinking as there really aren't any good hints that she'll be joining at all. Getting stuck on an Island with an Idoit who can't find his way and over bandaging him up doesn't scream out next nakama for me. Most importantly, she really isn't the SH's type at all.
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@Thousand:
ICo5Ho-iVUc
That's why.
You need to learn the difference between unlikely and unliked (if unliked is even a word). I meant unlikely to join. Her laugh also annoys me.
Perona just not take care of herself? She left the island without Moria and Co.
…with a bunch of zombies to boss around...yeah she can take care of herself
But it is just my opinion and by the way 2 charac from TB would be a bit too much. And saying that she is with Zoro and that she has some reason to join. Well if that the case than the Okamas chasin Sanji will join or the revoluionaries of Robin will join.
That's probably your best argument. The rest though is not serious, since none of the okamas or the revolutionaries are established characters…
An other case. Saying if Jimbei will join is boring and predictable is a thing that i can't understadn. Besides Robin we always knew which character would join the crew. Sanji, Zoro, Brook, Nami, Ussop, Franky and Chopper all were predictable. And was it boring? I don't think so.
Franky was far from boring or predictable. Brook was also unpredictable, since Luffy offered him to join right after he appeared. There was no long time period of him being with the crew before Luffy giving the offer. Also, the first five were a given, so there was no surprise there and there could not be one, so why bother. It would be boring to me if Jimbei joins, can't do anything about that.
And as you know jimbei said that he probably losed his status and saying he archieved all is BS too. As we know Croc has still ambitions even as he was one Shichibukai. Croc wanted to be pirate king. Did his status helped him… No. So a very weak point.
When did Croc want to become a pirate king? Also, I'm not saying it is impossible that Jimbei has some secret ambition he would achieve with the SH, but the possibility is lower for a Shichibukai than for many other people. If they start revealing his past or his ambitions in the future, maybe I will change my mind about him joining, but so far with what we know about him he does not fit the profile. This may change…
I think Jinbei does have a pretty good chance of joining the SHs, but only on a temporary basis until they get to Fishman Island, after that he'll most probably stay there to form a new crew to protect his favorite Island or whatever… after all, that seems to be his greatest desire.
That would be my guess too, but that's not joining. It's just temporary companion like Vivi, Johnny, Yosaku, Hatchi, etc.
As for Peloli, didn't she clearly state that she still wanted to return to Moria? So far all the arguments for her are mostly either assumption based or simply wishful thinking as there really aren't any good hints that she'll be joining at all. Getting stuck on an Island with an Idoit who can't find his way and over bandaging him up doesn't scream out next nakama for me. Most importantly, she really isn't the SH's type at all.
Of course there are assumptions and wishful thinking - just like any other potential nakama. That was my point from the beginning. I just don't see why Hancock or Marguerite are more likely.
@Thousand:
MY BROTHER!!! Where have you been all my life!?! Finally a voice of reason amid the ocean of loli fetishist madness!!!
Haha, to be fair, I don't really like Perona the way she is now, but I still perfer her over Hancock. Besides, once again, I was just stating the fact that it is not so unlikely that she will join, or at least not more unlikely than Hancock.
My best guess is that none of those people we know will join and the next nakama will be a totally new person.
Seriously people, did you even read Nabokov?
Franky was far from boring or predictable. Also, the first five were a given, so there was no surprise there and there could not be one, so why bother. It would be boring to me if Jimbei joins, can't do anything about that.
Since EL it was predictable as hell in my eyes
When did Croc want to become a pirate king? Also, I'm not saying it is impossible that Jimbei has some secret ambition he would achieve with the SH, but the possibility is lower for a Shichibukai than for many other people. If they start revealing his past or his ambitions in the future, maybe I will change my mind about him joining, but so far with what we know about him he does not fit the profile. This may change…
Cover story shows that he seems to have that dream and he claimed that he would like to kill WB for some reason.
For the rest I agree with you that are more than one chara who would be likely. But everyone sees someone different.
I think it will be Jimbei. But if no I'm betting for a new character.
like KiShido said Perona seems not to be good nakama,there is no story or events happened that make her more related to the crew,
and you know it's luffy who decide who will join the group,unless he has any relation with her that's impossible that she'll join them
Luffy likes her ghosts. What other reason does he need?