must have been some tough training
Naruto Discussion V [Re-Re-Redux]
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He was so sore he couldn't sit down.
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Juju14 for president i said.. he obviously is the only person fitting the place of the perfect representitive of AP to naruto community talks.
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No pretending guy. lol Go to other forums people like Naruto even more then me.
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On a voyage for new realms of excitement I found a poor dying men, blind, messes around with his own feces. I hurried to help him, it was disgusting. He had something to say, i approached him, he said:
"Just find One Piece forum. Don't bother to hang out here if you don't like it. Oda just use fantasy, not like kishi who able to mix myth and history including readers thought. Look at onemanga and find out what's manga is always above the others."
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Look at onemanga and find out what's manga is always above the others."
That would be Naruto.
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I don't get it then.
I believe it is that a man wallowing in his own filth thinks naruto is better then one piece, and that popularity rankings at onemanga.com is the proof of this.
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On a voyage for new realms of excitement I found a poor dying men, blind, messes around with his own feces. I hurried to help him, it was disgusting. He had something to say, i approached him, he said:
"Just find One Piece forum. Don't bother to hang out here if you don't like it. Oda just use fantasy, not like kishi who able to mix myth and history including readers thought. Look at onemanga and find out what's manga is always above the others."
So, Naruto is the manga of choice among disgusting, poor, dying blind men messing around in their own feces. Got it.
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I believe it is that a man wallowing in his own filth thinks naruto is better then one piece, and that popularity rankings at onemanga.com is the proof of this.
@robbybevard:
So, Naruto is the manga of choice among disgusting, poor, dying blind men messing around in their own feces. Got it.
Ok, I get it now. I couldn't get past the horrible grammar. Sorry:sad:
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forget naruto how is bleach ranked higher than one piece? thy people have any sense??!!!!????
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How are any of them (besides One Piece) ranked higher than Berserk?!
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@Kairouseki:
How are any of them (besides One Piece) ranked higher than Berserk?!
Because Berserk never comes out, its not hosted on Onemanga at all thanks to request from Darkhorse, and its too awesome for weebos.
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one piece is number one in japan and that's the only ranking that matters
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Only to the weeaboos.
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well honestly you'd think the rakings of THE LAND OF A THOUSAND MANGAS would matter a little more than HEY THAT GAY OL SHOW FROM CARTOON NETWROK HAS A COMICK LETS READ IT
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Naruto and Bleach have the breaks, OP until recently was screwed over. But considering OP probably had little of that before, it's come a long way…but sadly kids like flashy ninjas and Shinigami...over pirates who are flashy but with substance. And for every person who realizes the series is crap, some kid discovers it and tells his friends and the popularity stays up on places where it matters to everyone.
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Can't argue that.
They'll turn anything into a comic book over here.
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I was reading this thread and came up with a theory why people like Naruto
"Fast food. Things that people would rather throw out than finish. It's easy, it tastes all right, but it doesn't really provide you any nourishment."
Replace fast food with Naruto and you might have a winner
You get bonus points if you here that quote came from
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one piece is number one in japan and that's the only ranking that matters
This.
And not because, "I want OP to be the aweosmest manga ever so I can rub it in faces of every other fan!"
No.
But because if it's popular as fuck here, they'll keep supporting it.
In the case of DB? Not such a good thing. As we all could see, the series suffers when the author loses interest in his/her own work but is forced to drag it out.
Oda on the other hand WANTS to bring us his amazing stories, OP being retardedly popular over here simply allows him to do that.
Which is good.
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But because if it's popular as fuck here, they'll keep supporting it.
when you say 'here' you mean japan, right?
i think one piece is quite popular in other contries as well, especially those who air anime series at kids prime time(when coming back from school), but they keep on crapping up so much failure stuff like pokemon and naruto in that time, that one piece doesn't get the kind of rep it deserves… atm it starts at noon in ger, which is when all the sitcoms start.EDIT: Oh wait, it was just taken out again! i think we never even conquered enies lobby, which is a shame cause the german voice actors aren't that bad, but of course not nearly as good as the japanese ones.
In the case of DB? Not such a good thing. As we all could see, the series suffers when the author loses interest in his/her own work but is forced to drag it out.
when did he lose interest? when dbz started in the anime or shortly after namek? (didn't read the manga)
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when did he lose interest? when dbz started in the anime or shortly after namek? (didn't read the manga)
All of the timeskip to where DBZ starts in the anime, plus I'm sure I remember reading something where he said he wanted to finish it even earlier. I think it was after summoning shen ron for the first time or after the first tournament ended. Memory's a bit hazy, it's been a while.
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All of the timeskip to where DBZ starts in the anime, plus I'm sure I remember reading something where he said he wanted to finish it even earlier. I think it was after summoning shen ron for the first time or after the first tournament ended. Memory's a bit hazy, it's been a while.
best parts were till picollo daimio was killed, but he did a decent job after that as well. at least he gained lots of fame and money by continuing!
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I think it was after summoning shen ron for the first time or after the first tournament ended. Memory's a bit hazy, it's been a while.
"Dragonball" was initially planned for a two volumes run, until Pilaf's defeat, yeah. BUT Toriyama was enthusiastic to start a kung fu based series, then his editor and the man himself decided to make DB this series instead of start a new one.
Or something along these lines.Toriyama usually complained about the hard life of an author working in a weekly manga (and he always had only one assistant), but i'm pretty sure he NEVER said "i wanna end the series after _____ but i was forced to continue". One could easily assume that happened at some point, but that's it. At least he respected his readers until the very end.
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best parts were till picollo daimio was killed, but he did a decent job after that as well. at least he gained lots of fame and money by continuing!
Everything up till the end of the first tournament was superb. After that it could be somewhat hit and miss. Don't get me wrong, it could still be great(Tao Pai Pai), but it wasn't just continuously amazing anymore.
Toriyama usually complained about the hard life of an author working in a weekly manga (and he always had only one assistant), but i'm pretty sure he NEVER said "i wanna end the series after _____ but i was forced to continue". One could easily assume that happened at some point, but that's it.
As I said, I'm going from memory. Everything after Goku/Junior can be assumed to be unwanted though, as he contradicts story elements he'd earlier written.
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I've always heard that Toriyama wanted to end it after Frieza was defeated. It makes sense because most of the stuff after that seems like it was pulled out of his ass (ie SS2, SS3, more than one person turning SS in 1000 years). But I can see why he would want to end it after the tournament or before the time skip. I mean, where did flying and stuff come from? And when did the DB sudenlly become big? I was always confused by that :ermm: .
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@Kairouseki:
where did flying and stuff come from?
King Piccolo and the Crane school of martial arts.
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It just seems kind of thrown in there, I don't know :ermm: . I really need to read some more, but the scans are only up to chapter 38 or so :sad: .
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@Kairouseki:
It just seems kind of thrown in there, I don't know :ermm: . I really need to read some more, but the scans are only up to chapter 38 or so :sad: .
Buy the books. :P
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No, I've heard that Viz censors the DB manga. And I'm not going to go and buy the Japanese ones .
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@Kairouseki:
I've always heard that Toriyama wanted to end it after Frieza was defeated.
Could be it, but i've seen Toriyama talk about the Androids arc in quite the enthusiastic way in interviews, things still were somewhat connected to the series storyline and the plot was probably the most ellaborated DB could get.
I'd say the Buu saga is probably the time when he started to go with the flow and randomly pull things out of his ass, maybe his way of trying to have some fun out of it after all those years. -
I never heard the stuff about the "end it after Pilaf" or "end it after the first tournament" part before, but I guess I sort of see it in my head. (since even the first tournament arc has his trademark humor and unpredictability alongside the martial arts insanity) Toriyama probably was starting to get a bit tired after Dr. Slump and probably thought DB was going to be one of several short stories he would get to. Thing is, though, I do love the early volumes through the Ma Jr. fight and even everything through Frieza seems legit…and I still think in my head that Majin Boo was mostly another idea he wanted to do for fun but integrated into the DB universe when he finally decided to retake his own series much later on.
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At least Gaara appears in the next chapters, he is much more intresting compared to the two idiots.
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@Tokoro:
I never heard the stuff about the "end it after Pilaf" or "end it after the first tournament" part before, but I guess I sort of see it in my head. (since even the first tournament arc has his trademark humor and unpredictability alongside the martial arts insanity) Toriyama probably was starting to get a bit tired after Dr. Slump and probably thought DB was going to be one of several short stories he would get to. Thing is, though, I do love the early volumes through the Ma Jr. fight and even everything through Frieza seems legit…and I still think in my head that Majin Boo was mostly another idea he wanted to do for fun but integrated into the DB universe when he finally decided to retake his own series much later on.
Indeed. I can see a lot of inconsistencies in the Frieza saga though, such as Nameks…being Nameks. In Pre-Timeskip DB, Picollo was a demon king, hence why he could create such varied monsters, while post time skip all namekians look pretty similar. Pre-timeskip the Dragonballs used to be one giant dragonball, post timeskip that wouldn't make any sense.
And so on. Just various things that seem pretty disjointed.
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I was in a Gamestop about 3 years ago and a guy told me that DBZ was supposed to end after Gohan defeated Cell and i wouldnt have minded that because i didnt like Buu saga or GT.
Although for DBZ if it ended at Frieza i would still be very happy since the whole "Legendary SSJ" has returned (Goku) and its the final showdown of "Killer of Saiyan" VS "Lone Super-Saiyan"
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^ Well, I don't think GT counts as canon. From what I understand, Toriyama had no hand in making it. I could be wrong, though :ermm: . I remember watching GT on an international channel I had (in Japanese of course) and it took FOREVER for it to be dubbed. And all that waiting and it wasn't as good as it seemed when I couldn't understand it .
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@Kairouseki:
^ Well, I don't think GT counts as canon. From what I understand, Toriyama had no hand in making it. I could be wrong, though :ermm: . I remember watching GT on an international channel I had (in Japanese of course) and it took FOREVER for it to be dubbed. And all that waiting and it wasn't as good as it seemed when I couldn't understand it .
Only a limited production role.
The only good thing about DBGT was the Eiji-Shenron character design.
That's it.
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On a voyage for new realms of excitement I found a poor dying men, blind, messes around with his own feces. I hurried to help him, it was disgusting. He had something to say, i approached him, he said:
"Just find One Piece forum. Don't bother to hang out here if you don't like it. Oda just use fantasy, not like kishi who able to mix myth and history including readers thought. Look at onemanga and find out what's manga is always above the others."
Facepalm Naruto is on top.:wassat:
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I always thought Sasuke preferred to be on top.
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@Tokoro:
Naruto and Bleach have the breaks, OP until recently was screwed over. But considering OP probably had little of that before, it's come a long way…but sadly kids like flashy ninjas and Shinigami...over pirates who are flashy but with substance. And for every person who realizes the series is crap, some kid discovers it and tells his friends and the popularity stays up on places where it matters to everyone.
Naruto has substance through. LOL GTFO could say the samething about OP.
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I always thought Sasuke preferred to be on top.
He does while Sakura is at the bottom. Got to revive the old clan you now.
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Naruto has substance through. LOL GTFO could say the samething about OP.
And such substance
Naruto :"Believe it"
Nagato :"I hate you, Nawuto"
Naruto : "Believe it"
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Naruto aint complete shit. The beginning was good, the 1st sasuke retrieval was full of dump fights like Choji and Neji vs shit sound ninjas and that was boring, the fight between the sanins was also shitty, it was like pokemon lol. However episodes 1-80 were quite good. The shippuden wasnt the something good either, the beginning with gaara was mediocre, and the second meeting with sasuke was boring. The Wind Rasenshuriken training wasnt bad, and the Sasuke revenge story wasnt bad either. The Pain invansion was great, till the Fourth Idiot showed up and screwed that arc completely.
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I will eventually suicide if i keep reading this section.. anybody else see it coming ?!
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Naruto has substance through. LOL GTFO could say the samething about OP.
Who's GTFO and why he be dissin' One Piece?
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Naruto's undisputed, the is no reasoning and thus it's nature is unquestionable. It's something pure, something like Chuck noriss.
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And such substance
Naruto :"Believe it"
Nagato :"I hate you, Nawuto"
Naruto : "Believe it"
Nagato : "Don't worry nawuto, I'll bwing everyone back to life"Lol this is win.
How about
Council: "Let's make Kakashi Hokage."
Danzou: "No he sucks, pick me."
Council: "OK."
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i gotta sat naruto shines when it has its battles. especially its atkusuki battles ( can't spell it).like bleach basically.they are both bad when it comes to story telling but the battles are top notch