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    Cuomo did better than some handling Covid (but not great) and in insulting Trump, (for publicity) but he's generally a disliked governor by the people that actually live there.

    20 years ago Guiliani was super hated as well, but the couple weeks after 9/11 were the best weeks of his career (In no part thanks to anything he actually did, all he had to do was stand out of the way and make a super easy speech) and he sailed on that ever since. He was despised before that brief window, and he was despised after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    Cuomo did good handling Covid and in insulting Trump, but he's generally a disliked mayor by the people that actually live there.

    20 years ago Guiliani was super hated as well, but the couple weeks after 9/11 were the best weeks of his career (In no part thanks to anything he actually did) and he sailed on that ever since.
    Cuomo was governor, not mayor (unless he was also mayor at some point).



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    Quote Originally Posted by sgamer82 View Post
    Cuomo was governor, not mayor (unless he was also mayor at some point).
    Both major public figures representing NY. Close enough for most discussions.

    Who even is mayor of NYC right now? De Blasio? When was the last time he made news?
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    De Blasio's biggest coverage over the last year has been over him and Cuomo fighting over things like Covid restrictions.



    Cuomo's done "OK" with Covid, only considering the fact that NYC is in his State.

    He really fucking harmed business' like my fathers with his ridiculous Covid executive orders. My Dad owns a Brewery. Cuomo threw all these restrictions for bars, which fucked over every alcohol server that was not specifically a bar. To try and limit people from gathering at bars, he idiotically required that every drink must be served with food. You needed to buy food to buy a drink. When places like my Dad's that did not have a kitchen in it started selling things like a bag of chips to get around it, Cuomo changed it to "prepared" food. So places started making sandwiches before they eventually

    Breweries and Wineries, and Vinyards lost tons of money not just because of the hit of Covid, but specifically because Cuomo used executive powers to impose ludicrous restrictions on the alcohol industry because he decided to target them as they primary spread of Covid(with no stats to back that). Restrictions like this were never placed on things like retail. Even on Black Friday with mass amounts of people indoors.

    He has absolutely botched handling Nursing homes. Without a doubt.


    He's an egotist who used Covid as his opportunity to profit with his book. He kept himself in the news by constantly arguing with Trump which did nothing to help NY State, only score points for his presidential run which didn't happen. It was pretty much an open secret in the Albany political world that Cuomo was prepping to run, but the DNC stage was way too crowded with other moderate dems, and once directly asked if he would run at all, he shut it down.

    For Covid he pretty much just didn't fuck up as hard as other Governors.

    Outside of Covid he's the prime example of a bad Democrat. He dragged his tail on NY Subway and Long Island Railroad infrastructure and supporting their unions. Did little to nothing about the clear injustices at Rykers Island(something AOC championed) and those convicted of non violent drug crimes. He never made a big push for legalizing/decriminalizing Marijuana, letting the State Senators and Legislators risk THEIR races on those points, just waiting for a bill to reach his desk and take credit for.

    He's the prime example of a bad Dem because in spite of all of that, CNN and MSNBC would spend hours upon hours praising him for being "tough" and "fighting" against Trump for simply calling out some of Trump's BS.

    He has little-to-no base outside of voters in NYC that just didn't want Cynthia Nixon and/or "socialism". Long Island hates him. Everyone North of the Bronx hates him. But Democrats in other States praise him.



    All those politics aside, him and his brother are just rich doucebags who repeatedly violated the Covid restrictions themselves, and were traveling throughout the State (like going to the Hamptons) for non essential shit at the height of the pandemic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    Both major public figures representing NY. Close enough for most discussions.

    Who even is mayor of NYC right now? De Blasio? When was the last time he made news?
    I wanna say the democratic primaries for the 2020 election which he had zero business running in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Md-Martin View Post
    He really fucking harmed business' like my fathers with his ridiculous Covid executive orders. My Dad owns a Brewery. Cuomo threw all these restrictions for bars, which fucked over every alcohol server that was not specifically a bar. To try and limit people from gathering at bars, he idiotically required that every drink must be served with food. You needed to buy food to buy a drink. When places like my Dad's that did not have a kitchen in it started selling things like a bag of chips to get around it, Cuomo changed it to "prepared" food. So places started making sandwiches before they eventually
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    Since Biden is pulling soldiers out of Afghanistan and Taliban taking over for that, Biden is sure in a lot of trouble for that. Both sides are on him about it.
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    That's twenty years for nothing. Yay
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    Way less than the War On Drugs.
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    At this point I'd just be happy for it to be over. This war exploited a tragedy to start and has caused too much damage.

    It's why I hate all this news about the Taiban taking over territory. It's giving me anxiety that this isn't going to actually end.

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    Has the presence of the U.S army actually changed anything in that region in the long term?

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    Wresting control from the Taliban..........while the Taliban still terrorized the local population.
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    very unfortunate situation let's hope at least it doesn't devolve into a second syria
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    Hey maybe Biden is just trying to get his Nobel Prize...
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    Nation building doesn't work.

    For twenty years, America has spent billions trying to prop up a paper regime and train and arm people who didn't want to fight, just to watch it all collapse in just DAYS. This is South Vietnam and Saigon all over again.

    Congrats Afghanistan, you've lived up to your "Graveyard of Empires" nickname again.

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    Yeah. This may be twenty years for nothing, but the most likely alternative was twenty more years for nothing. There's a point where the Sunk Cost Fallacy needs to be recognized for what it is.Though I will say it's scary just how fast it's all going down now.

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    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...urrounds-kabul

    The Afghan President has fled.
    Taliban officially in uncontested control of the country.

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    lot of "impartial" journalists showing their asses by attacking biden with neocon rage on twitter.

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    lot of "impartial" journalists showing their asses by attacking biden with neocon rage on twitter.
    Business as usual.
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    I bet there's some old CIA coot drinking his whisky and watching this unfold pondering if the investment the company did training the mujahidins was worth it or not.

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