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  • Yamato

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  • Shinobu

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  • An Akazaya Samurai (Kin'emon, Kiku, etc)

    1 0.27%
  • Momo

    9 2.45%
  • Tama

    9 2.45%
  • Carrot

    68 18.48%
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    7 1.90%
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  1. #9201

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintermute View Post
    I find it just funny that the old arguments against Carrot are basically nullified with Yamato. Face looks like Nami in normal form, looks like "Chopper" in transformed form (Too similar!). Has fur (Oh my gosh, will never join). Has no job on the ship (There is none for Carrot no, please guide Yams to the writing board)...
    Has Carrot had a line in the past year and a half?

  2. #9202

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    I'm actually surprised the Nami face argument still exists lol
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  3. #9203

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon D. Luffy View Post
    Imo everything that Yamato and Carrot is lacking can be fixed at any time, except panel time.

    Not being important to the story is a pretty bad trait to have when you want to join the protagonist cast because it says the author doesn't see you as a protagonist.
    The thing is, not being in the spotlight right now does not mean the story is over for that character.
    When Jinbe left after Fishman Island and disappeared entirely for 3 arcs, did his chances of joining just disappear? No, because we knew he would return at some point and his story would get resolved.

    Carrot is a lot like this. She's missing because she's not important to the current story. But we can be sure she will be picked up again. It could not even be in Wano, if she keeps traveling with the crew.

    Personally, I don't think Carrot will join for some reasons that aren't important right now. But I'm sure her storyline will get a proper conclusion, and that will give her at least one more chance.
    Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

  4. #9204

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deicide View Post
    Plus, a lot that justifies Yamato joining applies equally as strong to Carrot. Some time ago, people were saying that Yamato joining was certain because the only way he wouldn't do it is if he gives up on his desire for adventure and/or is denied by Luffy. Well, the very same arguments apply to Carrot down to a T. And Carrot has the advantage of already making friends with many crewmates and having earned Luffy's respect to the point he calls her by name. Yamato lacks both, and has mostly interacted with non-Straw Hats.

    What's dragging Carrot down right now is just that the story isn't focused on her. But, as long as Perospero and Carrot are around, her story arc can still be picked up. The arc is far from over.
    I mean, it's bold to say Carrot's story arc will just be picked up like that when Wano has been consistently ignoring her.

    Yamato has this big advantage right now that he's been one of the focal points of the story since his introduction. Carrot more or less stopped being relevant after WCI, which is not something you'd expect from a supposedly main character.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deicide View Post
    The thing is, not being in the spotlight right now does not mean the story is over for that character.
    When Jinbe left after Fishman Island and disappeared entirely for 3 arcs, did his chances of joining just disappear? No, because we knew he would return at some point and his story would get resolved.

    Carrot is a lot like this. She's missing because she's not important to the current story. But we can be sure she will be picked up again. It could not even be in Wano, if she keeps traveling with the crew.
    The bolded is pretty damning.

    Jinbe was always important in the arcs he was physically present. Carrot does not have that excuse because she's been in Wano since the beginning. She's a background character right now.

    In the end, it's all a matter of show, don't tell, although in Carrot's case, Oda is not showing nor telling.
    Last edited by King Cannon; September 5th, 2021 at 04:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kishido View Post
    I have only 2 problems with Yamato even if she is a lock.

    1. What will be her role? She can't be the Oden because Oden was seeked by Roger for his ability to read the Poneglyphs. So what has Oda in store? Writing a log keeper journal? This brings me to problem 2

    2. Yeah I got she wants to go out on adventures... But are the SHs fitting for it? They already have seen enough and like Oda said... There are in their final phase... Oden at least went back to Skypia and Co to see the world while Yamato won't see as much.
    Its not like the strawhats are all gonna die or disband right after they get to Laughtale or Luffy is crowned pirate king.
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  6. #9206

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    Even when Water 7/Enies Lobby full transitioned to The Robin Adventure, there was never a point where people were like "oh yeah Franky is here too, I forgot about him", meanwhile the only thing that makes me remember that Carrot is even on this island is this thread.

  7. #9207

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    Like I said before, Carrot is the Paulie of Wano.

    Great first impression, but when the time came for the protagonists to rise up in the big bad final battle, she was simply in the background dealing with some creep.

  8. #9208

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    Rebecca's flashback was more developped than Yamato's one in this chapter. I don't see what this change
    Last edited by Kfunk; September 5th, 2021 at 04:52 PM.

  9. #9209

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kfunk View Post
    Rebecca was more developped than Yamato's one in this chapter. I don't see what this change
    Yamato's flashback will obviously continue since it never bothered to elaborate who the samurai were and what happened to them.

    Ushimaru alone is too big of a deal to not explore further.

  10. #9210

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Cannon View Post
    Like I said before, Carrot is the Paulie of Wano.

    Great first impression, but when the time came for the protagonists to rise up in the big bad final battle, she was simply in the background dealing with some creep.
    She is not dealing with some creep, though.

    She is sitting on a rock watching as a member of the B-cast deals with the creep.

  11. #9211

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    Mentioned it before, but my guts tells me Oda's going to be cheeky and kinda troll the fanbase by opting for a scenario which'll demonstrate how both sides of the debate were both right and wrong in certain ways.

    Carrot and Yamato could both join, officially or otherwise, as stowaways. He may even spill cold water on the whole "Will Yamato upend the Monster Trio???" question by nerfing their power level; perhaps by means of a Jewelry Bonney appearance or some other method, with both Momo and Yamato having their "stolen childhoods" returned to them in literal fashion.

    De-aged ( and depowered ) Yamato thus joins on as a potential cabin-boy/apprentice. Everyone wins, nothing is settled, fuck you, Wororororo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clessenur View Post
    If she really is Oden then you are probably right. He too went around to adventures like an apprentice.

    However the point that she doesn't have experience is moot, as Chopper too had none and adapted really quickly.
    Which is fine considering when Chopper joined no one on the ship had experience being a pirate apart from Nami...and she was still considered a rookie.

    The point is Yamato could qualify as the Apprentice Pirate on the crew because he's never even left Wano before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fana View Post
    Plot twist: Yamato, the last crewmate will get the "First Mate" role

    Anyway, this thread is getting boring since it seems that every chapter is an excuse for someone rehashing the same theory about Yamato staying in Wano instead of leaving the island.
    Maybe some originality from time to time.
    I would rather read some random theory about her leaving the island but on someone else ship than reading again and again that scenario of her not leaving.
    They can't really think of good alternatives to keep up their denial.

    Yamato staying on Wano is just one of the more creatively bankrupt ideas to suggest. To the point its only Kaido suggesting it for his convienence.
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  14. #9214

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Cannon View Post
    Yamato's flashback will obviously continue since it never bothered to elaborate who the samurai were and what happened to them.

    Ushimaru alone is too big of a deal to not explore further.
    Yeah, there's no way this is it.

    Especially when we know Ushimaru dies and how important he actually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Cannon View Post
    Reminder that Deicide literally once thought that Yamato was what was shown. That he wouldn't get a flashback because there was nothing there.

    Now that a flashback exists, he's stating that Yamato is something else than what is shown. That everything about him is fake except for the parts that support my theories.
    He once said Yamato was the Don Sai of this arc.

    Then to later on to say other ppl are ignoring the story and where things are going.

    Madness.
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    Hey y'all, long time no see. Everyone here, and especially Robby, I'm sorry I was pretentious as fk last week. I was so over my head lol. I'm so embarrassed that I skipped visiting AP...

    Anyway, with that out, it seems that last week is "Yamato Week". My feed is filled to the brim with Yamato... she rides the coattail of volume 100 where she's on the cover as free publication lol. Oh, and most merchandises of vol 100 do include Yamato in Straw Hats line up, somehow.

    It's like the marketing team knows something we don't *wink wink nudge nudge*
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  17. #9217

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zik View Post
    He once said Yamato was the Don Sai of this arc.

    Then to later on to say other ppl are ignoring the story and where things are going.

    Madness.
    Uh, I don't see how this chapter changes that.

    Unless you took I comparing Yamato to the coolest ally that got the most important non-SH fight in an overbloated arc and will surely return later to help the Straw Hats as "Yamato will follow the exact same path as Sai", thus thinking I meant Yamato wouldn't get a flashback.
    Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

  18. #9218

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    Wait…. Carrot’s color that represents her is lime green…. And another character that is represented by the color scheme lime green is Monet…. And Monet has a devil fruit that is a logia and fits the 2.9 devil fruit theory!!! This must mean that monets devil fruit will transfer to Carrot thereby making her the perfect candidate for the Straw Hats!!!!! Ingenious!!

    I figured it out guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deicide View Post
    Uh, I don't see how this chapter changes that.

    Unless you took I comparing Yamato to the coolest ally that got the most important non-SH fight in an overbloated arc and will surely return later to help the Straw Hats as "Yamato will follow the exact same path as Sai", thus thinking I meant Yamato wouldn't get a flashback.
    You're either not arguing in good faith or arguing without any reason at all.

    Comparing Yamato to Don Sai or even Rebecca despite the narrative and what the story says is still one of the dumbest things I've read. Go ahead and stick with it if you want.


    But you should take your own advice and pay closer attention to what's happening in the story, the themes, character arcs, the narrative, etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiebs View Post
    Wait…. Carrot’s color that represents her is lime green…. And another character that is represented by the color scheme lime green is Monet…. And Monet has a devil fruit that is a logia and fits the 2.9 devil fruit theory!!! This must mean that monets devil fruit will transfer to Carrot thereby making her the perfect candidate for the Straw Hats!!!!! Ingenious!!

    I figured it out guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfwood View Post
    Maybe carrot gets something to do next week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deicide View Post
    Plus, a lot that justifies Yamato joining applies equally as strong to Carrot. Some time ago, people were saying that Yamato joining was certain because the only way he wouldn't do it is if he gives up on his desire for adventure and/or is denied by Luffy. Well, the very same arguments apply to Carrot down to a T. And Carrot has the advantage of already making friends with many crewmates and having earned Luffy's respect to the point he calls her by name. Yamato lacks both, and has mostly interacted with non-Straw Hats.

    What's dragging Carrot down right now is just that the story isn't focused on her. But, as long as Perospero and Carrot are around, her story arc can still be picked up. The arc is far from over.
    One of these doesn't matter and the other is as simple as Luffy will stop calling you nicknames and by your real name when he does.

    I find it strange to try to diminish the importance of story focus just to keep the topic of Carrot relevant at all let alone joining the crew.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deicide View Post
    The thing is, not being in the spotlight right now does not mean the story is over for that character.
    When Jinbe left after Fishman Island and disappeared entirely for 3 arcs, did his chances of joining just disappear? No, because we knew he would return at some point and his story would get resolved.

    Carrot is a lot like this. She's missing because she's not important to the current story. But we can be sure she will be picked up again. It could not even be in Wano, if she keeps traveling with the crew.

    Personally, I don't think Carrot will join for some reasons that aren't important right now. But I'm sure her storyline will get a proper conclusion, and that will give her at least one more chance.
    Comparing Jimbe literally not being present for multiple arcs to Carrot being present but at best serving as a background character is disingenuous.

    Its not the same thing at all. Especially when you compare that to the focus Jimbe did receive when he was present in an arc.
    Last edited by Zik; September 5th, 2021 at 07:41 PM.
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    I don't know what others see but for me, narratively, Yamato is all but set-up to be a Straw Hat Pirate. From a plot perspective. From a character perspective. From a design perspective. From a comical perspective. From a power perspective. From a relational perspective. From an importance perspective. From a potential perspective. From a marketability perspective. From an emotional perspective. From a relatability perspective. From a story role perspective. From a Straw Hat perspective.

    Yamato is connected to three of the most important characters in One Piece - Ace, Oden and Kaido - and such relations heightens their relevance within the continuing story of One Piece. You can even argue Yamato is connected to Roger and Joy Boy through Oden's journal and Ace. Yamato is also now connected to Momonosuke, the current most important secondary character within the New World story. And as per chapter 1024, Yamato is connected to Shimotsuki Ushimaru, which will hold weight when it comes to Zoro's story. Yamato WILL meet Ace again and he will get to the memorial aboard the Thousand Sunny. So even if Yamato doesn't have their whole story explored within the Wano Kuni Arc, their relevance extends beyond this arc and into the story that will feature Luffy and the Straw Hat Pirates visiting Ace's memorial.

    "The Sake I Brewed to Drink with You" - Yamato may not get to physically share a drink of sake with Ace again but he can share one with him in front of his grave on the Island near Sphinx.

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    And lets also not forget that Oda has gone out of his way to write Yamato as part of the New Generation that will define the coming era. Wano Kuni is not the end of Yamato's story and focus.

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