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  • Yamato

    189 51.36%
  • Shinobu

    1 0.27%
  • An Akazaya Samurai (Kin'emon, Kiku, etc)

    1 0.27%
  • Momo

    9 2.45%
  • Tama

    9 2.45%
  • Carrot

    68 18.48%
  • A Supernova (Law, Drake, Bonney, etc.)

    7 1.90%
  • Caribou

    6 1.63%
  • Other

    28 7.61%
  • None: Jinbe is the final Straw Hat

    50 13.59%
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  1. #9141

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Cannon View Post
    So far, there's no evidence Yamato feels conflicted. The only person that wants his stuck in Wano is the main villain.
    So far, Wano is still his priority, so there was no time for him to feel conflicted.

    The conflict, if there's any, will appear once Wano is safe. It's then that the character may finally take a look at the country after 20 years and decide that he should stay. Onigashima was his prison, after all, not Wano.
    Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

  2. #9142

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    Hmmmm inner character conflict... That sounds familiar...
    Here’s how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what he’s doing. Luffy replies “Thinkin’ bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!” and then chucks it off the ship

  3. #9143

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deicide View Post
    The official translation changes the priorities, thought...

    https://i.imgur.com/QU9PK2w.png
    That's probably cause 8yr old Yamato thought she was going to escape earlier, she stated herself that she tried multiple times, but then the devil fruit no longer allowed her to swim.

    so present day Yamato put all her hope on Luffy to set sail.

  4. #9144
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    Quote Originally Posted by electricmastro View Post
    Something like bodyguard figured. I also find it interesting how some say it’s too late for new members considering how Jinbe was largely absent for their New World Adventures.
    Difference is... Jinbe is a veteran who had enough adventures on his own

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kishido View Post
    Difference is... Jinbe is a veteran who had enough adventures on his own
    If we're willing to accept that many of Jinbe's adventures have been off-screened, why couldn't we do the same for Yamato? Even if the series itself is in its final stage, whatever that means, Yams could very easily have a lifetime of adventures following what the series itself actually covers.

    Welcome to Rokkenjima.

  6. #9146

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deicide View Post
    So far, Wano is still his priority, so there was no time for him to feel conflicted.

    The conflict, if there's any, will appear once Wano is safe. It's then that the character may finally take a look at the country after 20 years and decide that he should stay. Onigashima was his prison, after all, not Wano.
    Well, then you just have to see the chapter where Ace tells Yamato about all the cool pirates in other seas to the latter's amazement. Unless you think Yamato was faking his interest in the outside world.

    Yamato himself has already been to the Wano mainland, so it's not like it's a new world to him. If a conflict happens, it would be strange for him to stay, since it's not like Wano needs him. They already have more than enough fighters to protect it.

  7. #9147

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    Tis merely a fleshwound

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    Yamato is already acting as Straw Hat Pirate through the belief he has in Luffy (as per Yamato's perspective).

    Luffy in turn has also treated Yamato as a valued connection he has made conveyed through the level of faith he has in Yamato to leave Momonosuke's safety to Yamato alongside Shinobu. Luffy made a promise to Momonosuke when Kanjuro captured him and during the Onigashima raid, Luffy chose Yamato as the person to act as an extension of himself to protect Momonosuke.

    Such an act speaks volumes to the trust and positivity Luffy had built up with Yamato in the brief time they were together. And shortly, Luffy will arrive on Onigashima to see Yamato holding Kaido back. Luffy already knows Yamato succeeded in the task of keeping Momonosuke safe alongside Shinobu and when he arrives on Onigashima, he will see Yamato protecting everyone else on the Island by keeping Kaido busy. Yamato's current actions WILL influence Luffy going forward.

    Jinbe is already curious about Kaido's status and the strangeness of his absence which leaves him wondering who to thank for it, hence the question he posed to Brook.
    Last edited by Syphin; September 5th, 2021 at 11:52 AM.

  9. #9149
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    Quote Originally Posted by otakufan View Post
    If we're willing to accept that many of Jinbe's adventures have been off-screened, why couldn't we do the same for Yamato? Even if the series itself is in its final stage, whatever that means, Yams could very easily have a lifetime of adventures following what the series itself actually covers.
    That's actually true.

  10. #9150

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Cannon View Post
    Yamato himself has already been to the Wano mainland, so it's not like it's a new world to him.
    He last saw Wano 20 years ago, when it was not a wasteland full of poverty and slavery.

    If a conflict happens, it would be strange for him to stay, since it's not like Wano needs him. They already have more than enough fighters to protect it.
    We don't know what "opening the borders" of Wano entails. And Wano's formidable samurai are in the past. We also don't know what happens to Kin'emon, Kiku, Ashura and other Scabbards. There's a ton of questions, not to mention that Yamato believes it's Momonosuke that will bring the world to the dawn.

    Lots of people assume Yamato's role is "bodyguard". It may be, but it may not be Luffy's. The Straw Hats do not need bodyguards.
    Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

  11. #9151

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deicide View Post
    Don't confuse your expectations for the author's plans. Luffy never said "yes". Luffy never even called Yamato by name. The story is ongoing, and a lot still needs to happen. Until then, whatever "proof" you accepted is your own mind trying to predict a puzzle's image without all of its pieces assembled.
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    Where is the confusion? Where did I say anything about my expectations?

    I said the narrative has been telling us straight up what one of the characters straight up wants to do, and has been doing everything im their power to achieve that goal including face a yonko. If the narrative treats that as a red herring, it would be a dishonest narrative at this point since we are not given any ambiguity over the character or the situation.


    Oda could choose not to add Yamato, that is straight up possible. But in doing so we as readers would have straight up been lied to considering the direction of the narrative and context of events so far. What alternative would suffice where Yamato doesn't join the crew would be met with greater praise than if he straight up joins? Who would that really serve here? Is he gonna prematurely kill off Yamato? Give him a change of heart? Have Luffy deny his presence? It's all counter-intuitive to all the build up we have so far.

    We have never encountered a character that proclaims wanting to join the crew. As a reader, where do you see this going? How do you see the narrative playing out? With Oda dropping it because it would make an interesting plot twist?

  12. #9152

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deicide View Post
    He last saw Wano 20 years ago, when it was not a wasteland full of poverty and slavery.

    We don't know what "opening the borders" of Wano entails. And Wano's formidable samurai are in the past. We also don't know what happens to Kin'emon, Kiku, Ashura and other Scabbards. There's a ton of questions, not to mention that Yamato believes it's Momonosuke that will bring the world to the dawn.

    Lots of people assume Yamato's role is "bodyguard". It may be, but it may not be Luffy's. The Straw Hats do not need bodyguards.
    Neither does Momo considering he can now become a huge ass dragon.

    Oh, and the nearly 5000 samurai, yakuza and gifters fighting for his country right now. But I guess that's not enough bodyguards. Unless you think Oda is gonna kill them all.

  13. #9153

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    I agree that Bodyguard role is a bit of a stretch.

    But there's apprentice (which is an Oda thing to pull lol)

    Or it could stem from Odens journal.
    Here’s how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what he’s doing. Luffy replies “Thinkin’ bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!” and then chucks it off the ship

  14. #9154

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Cannon View Post
    Neither does Momo considering he can now become a huge ass dragon.
    Momo is still a child in an adult body. He became more formidable, but he would fall easily to an experienced New World pirate.
    And that's not counting the World Government itself as a potential threat.

    Oh, and the nearly 5000 samurai + gifters fighting for his country right now. But I guess that's not enough bodyguards.
    Really good to fight fodder, but I'm talking about real threats here. Especially if opening the borders mean atracting all manner of powerful pirates or even the wrath of the World Government.
    Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

  15. #9155

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    Or just fighter. If it's good enough for Zoro it's good enough for Yams

  16. #9156

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kishido View Post
    1. What will be her role? She can't be the Oden because Oden was seeked by Roger for his ability to read the Poneglyphs. So what has Oda in store? Writing a log keeper journal? This brings me to problem 2
    My issue with the whole "log keeper" role is two-fold. One, what's the point of a log keeper if the story is already 85% complete? Second, Yamato has shown no ability to log anything. He's shown an ability to read Oden's journal (just like the samurai, Momo, Shinobu, and anyone else who's read it), but that wouldn't make him one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    What alternative would suffice where Yamato doesn't join the crew would be met with greater praise than if he straight up joins?
    To be fair, "Sail with Luffy" doesn't only mean "I'll becomes a SH and sail with Luffy." Law and Kinemon have been sailing the seas with Luffy forever. It's readers who are assuming that the only possible outcome is for Yamato to join the crew.

    Quote Originally Posted by King Cannon View Post
    Oh, and the nearly 5000 samurai, yakuza and gifters fighting for his country right now. But I guess that's not enough bodyguards. Unless you think Oda is gonna kill them all.
    If the WG considered Wano the only island in the world that could cause them problems, then they'll need every last one of them.
    Last edited by BobLoblaw; September 5th, 2021 at 12:07 PM.

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    Default Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 8 - Onigashima)

    Good thing Jimbei stayed behind to protect Fishman Island from future potential threats.
    Good thing Chopper stayed behind to protect Drum from future potential threats.
    Good thing Sanji stayed behind to protect the Baratie from future potential threats.
    Good thing Usopp stayed behind to protect Syrup Village from future potential threats.
    Good thing Nami stayed behind to protect Coco Village from future potential threats.

    People would be completely nuts to try and attack the nation that managed to drive off the strongest creature alive, the nation that is considered a natural fortress, that managed to stay out of the World Government's influence for 800 years, that will officially declare themselves to be in alliance with Straw Hat Luffy, the fifth and soon to be proper Emperor with a Grand Fleet with several infamous pirates under his flag.

  18. #9158

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deicide View Post
    Really good to fight fodder, but I'm talking about real threats here. Especially if opening the borders mean atracting all manner of powerful pirates or even the wrath of the World Government.
    That's never been a concern to any place the Straw Hats have visited before. Now it suddenly is?

    You think the Samurai, Yakuza, Minks and such can't fight the WG or other threats? Because, you know, having Yamato around wouldn't really matter if the WG got serious and decided to send in 2 or 3 Admirals at once.

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    Plot twist: Yamato, the last crewmate will get the "First Mate" role

    Anyway, this thread is getting boring since it seems that every chapter is an excuse for someone rehashing the same theory about Yamato staying in Wano instead of leaving the island.
    Maybe some originality from time to time.
    I would rather read some random theory about her leaving the island but on someone else ship than reading again and again that scenario of her not leaving.

  20. #9160

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    Due to Yamatos experience at cosplaying Oden, her role on the ship will be: Tailor...

    "There will be an answer, let it be."

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