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  • Yamato

    189 51.36%
  • Shinobu

    1 0.27%
  • An Akazaya Samurai (Kin'emon, Kiku, etc)

    1 0.27%
  • Momo

    9 2.45%
  • Tama

    9 2.45%
  • Carrot

    68 18.48%
  • A Supernova (Law, Drake, Bonney, etc.)

    7 1.90%
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    6 1.63%
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    28 7.61%
  • None: Jinbe is the final Straw Hat

    50 13.59%
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    See, if Zoro was officially the First Mate, then Yamato could just be a Combatant and then it would be nice and simple.

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    Maybe Yamato can be a ninja apprentice! So a ninja in training!

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    Yamato's ship role could be many things, until we get further focus on what exactly Yamato can do beyond fighting, certainty remains lacking. (I still want Luffy to get the statue he longs for).

    But Yamato's story role within the Straw Hat Pirates appears clear and unique. I'll quote what I stated earlier in the year as I still believe it applies.
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    [...]

    Yamato may not have been exactly aware of what Roger and Oden were fighting for but once Yamato met Ace and later made the connection between Luffy and Roger and then the connection between Luffy and the presence known as "Joy Boy", did Yamato come to understand the importance of the events to follow (Oden's prediction of the future if he were to fail). When Yamato met Ace, he didn't appear to think much of Oden's prediction about the New Generation and based on its current coverage he did not once consider Ace to be such a figure during their meeting. It was only after that meeting when Yamato had time to process what he learned did he begin to consider Ace as the first and foremost among the pirates Oden was talking about in his journal that would eventually help liberate Wano.

    Since then, Yamato has come to appreciate the importance of Wano's borders opening and the need to contribute to the fight that began in the past being waged behind the scenes. Which is why, upon Yamato introducing himself, he immediately expresses his desire to open Wano to the world and to want to fight on Luffy's side because after having read the contents of Oden's journal and having learned about Luffy from Ace, Yamato believes Luffy is the one Roger and Oden were waiting for - the one who will fulfill what Joy Boy set in motion.

    From my perspective, unlike other nakama candidates who want to travel with the Straw Hat Pirates because of the adventure, Yamato seeks to travel with the Straw Hat Pirates because of their importance to the battle ongoing over the past 800 years. This is also why Yamato is currently focusing on protecting Momonosuke, who will be a key figure in bringing about the 'Dawn' mentioned in Oden's journal.

    Yamato has been presented as a character that can be relevant beyond Wano Kuni. All the developments and plot threads Yamato has been connected with is central to the heart of One Piece's story and mysteries. Oden's journal truly did become a bible for Yamato who has completely cast himself into the destiny that awaits Luffy. I really do expect Yamato to get another flashback during this arc to substantiate what happened when he found out Ace died and began piecing together the connections between the contents of the journal and Luffy. Yamato now likely has a specific reason to want to travel with the Straw Hat Pirates. A reason not currently shared by any other nakama candidate so far introduced (or existing crew member).
    And if Oda does script a flashback for Yamato during his battle against Kaido, I am very curious to see if Oda will go back and show how Yamato reacted when he found Ace had died. Could Oda convey Yamato's "3D2Y moment" during that flashback?
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    What if Yamato knew the Straw Hat Pirates would enter the New World two years after the Battle of Marineford? In conjunction with the information contained in Oden's journal where a group of Pirates will appear in Wano twenty years after Oden's death and knowledge of Luffy's dream which echoed what Roger told Oden, if during the conversation Ace and Yamato shared on Onigashima extended to Ace's tattoo and the crossed out "S" it could explain how Yamato was able to decode the message Luffy expressed to his crew. Unlike the Straw Hat Pirates who were aware what the crossed out "3D" meant allowing them to infer a meaning to "2Y", Yamato would be aware what the "2Y" meant when read together with Oden's journal allowing Yamato to infer what the crossed out "3D" could mean. Would not such a development coupled with Yamato's grief over Ace's death and their continual struggles over the past 20 years connect that pain with the Straw Hat Pirates experience from two years ago during the 3D2Y moment? What happens if it is revealed that Yamato made a pledge with themselves as well upon understanding the 3D2Y message - 'when you arrive in Wano Kuni, Luffy, I will be ready to help fight alongside you to stop Kaido and open Wano's borders. And I will set sail with you to experience the world beyond Wano.' (all that Yamato expressed to Luffy when they first met during Yamato's introduction). When Yamato mentioned to Luffy that they were waiting a very long time for him, Yamato may have really been waiting those two years for Luffy.

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    If Yamato had decoded the 3D2Y message Luffy left for his crew and has been waiting for Luffy since that day, it would help to establish a connection between Yamato and that intimate moment Luffy and his crew shared. Through Ace, Yamato became involved in the Straw Hat Pirates story and now through the events in Wano Kuni, Yamato is becoming closely associated to the Straw Hat Pirates adventure. The foundation Oda is setting up with Yamato being aware of Luffy's dream and his relevance to the "One Piece" is not just window dressing. There is a deeper meaning to Oda having Yamato being closely connected to the end goals of One Piece and the mysteries surrounding it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny B. Decent View Post
    See, if Zoro was officially the First Mate, then Yamato could just be a Combatant and then it would be nice and simple.
    Two combatants? You looking to declare war on the world or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syphin View Post
    Yamato's ship role could be many things, until we get further focus on what exactly Yamato can do beyond fighting, certainty remains lacking. (I still want Luffy to get the statue he longs for).

    But Yamato's story role within the Straw Hat Pirates appears clear and unique. I'll quote what I stated earlier in the year as I still believe it applies.

    And if Oda does script a flashback for Yamato during his battle against Kaido, I am very curious to see if Oda will go back and show how Yamato reacted when he found Ace had died. Could Oda convey Yamato's "3D2Y moment" during that flashback?
    Usually an occupation for recruits is shown or hinted at in the arc they’re introduced in. After a year since meet Luffy, I’d say a guard/protector sort of role seems likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syphin View Post
    (I still want Luffy to get the statue he longs for).
    Turns out the secret dream Luffy shares with Roger and to which everybody react with laughter and bewilderment was actually the colossal statue all along, and Yamato will be the one sculpting it (as he learned doing for the Oden Gig) in the supreme Poneglyph, delivering Luffy to immortality after he fulfilled the prophecy and ascended to heaven to sit to the right of his Father, the great D. in the sky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfiere View Post
    the great D. in the sky.
    Enel on the moon be like


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    Quote Originally Posted by electricmastro View Post
    Usually an occupation for recruits is shown or hinted at in the arc they’re introduced in. After a year since meet Luffy, I’d say a guard/protector sort of role seems likely.
    Yeah, I don't doubt that.

    Considering the Wano Kuni Arc is the most substantial arc in One Piece to date with quite a bit of chapters remaining that will feature Yamato heavily, that is probably where Yamato's ship role aboard the Thousand Sunny will be clarified.

    I still am in support of Yamato being a stonemason. I got those vibes from Yamato back when he introduced himself in July 2020 and the idea has only become more fascinating within my mind since.

    I wonder if there is a role aboard the Thousand Sunny that requires immense strength to enhance what it possible through it while Jinbe Helms it and Nami's navigates it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deicide View Post
    "Apprentice" is such a lackluster role. I could understand if it were a kid sidekick, but an adult as strong as a captain?
    Sure, why not? That sounds like a hilarious enough premise. As much as robot carpenter and skeleton musician.

    Plus, Kaido is always talked as a big deal within Rocks (being equated to Whitebeard and Big Mom) even though he was an apprentice too.

    Quote Originally Posted by electricmastro View Post
    Usually an occupation for recruits is shown or hinted at in the arc they’re introduced in. After a year since meet Luffy, I’d say a guard/protector sort of role seems likely.
    -This arc reveals Kaido was an apprentice. Coincidentally, Kaido has a child.
    -The flashback gives emphasis on other former apprentices (Shanks & Buggy, Inu & Neko, Marco). Three of those are heavily involved in this arc.
    -Yamato is strong, but has little knowledge of the outside world and its sciences, which could be remedied by having him learn from all other positions (medicine, navigation, etc)
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    Everyone in the crew is a combatant. That’s not really a role on the ship.

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    Then again this is coming from someone who doesn’t understand what the role of “apprentice” is for a ship. I would think it’s a youngin’ joining a well respected crew to gain experience as a pirate, but we have no context as to what separates an apprentice from a normal pirate outside of age.

    I mean, why wasn’t Usopp considered an apprentice when he joined the crew? Was that because he had his own “crew” on his island? Does Apprentice just mean crew member with no defining role that is looking to find a defining role?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmo View Post
    Everyone in the crew is a combatant. That’s not really a role on the ship.
    But that's his official role as per character infos in every volume, fighter in the Viz version, 戦闘員 (せんとういん) in the original which translates to combatant/fighter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coookie View Post
    But that's his official role as per character infos in every volume, fighter in the Viz version, 戦闘員 (せんとういん) in the original which translates to combatant/fighter
    my bad. Didn’t realize
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobLoblaw View Post
    Knocking BM off a shiip once when she's in her feeding frenzy isn't the same thing as holding off Kaido for an extended period of time in his hybrid form using CoC-based attacks, though. Even Luffy just barely managed to do that.


    Right, but assuming he eventually loses to Kaido, then he still won't be anywhere close to the SHs. They likely wouldn't even meet him until after the battles conclude, which would make for a short turnaround between meeting someone and letting them sail on your ship as a crew mate. Brook spent time on the Sunny with the crew before even going to TB and then again while on TB. That's not the same as the crew meeting him for the first time after Moria was defeated, which would be the equivalent.
    Don't think either matter much.

    Yamato is super strong. Only reasonable being a son of a yonkou. The other strawhats aren't stagnant. They're not going to stop getting stronger.

    As for meeting tye rest of the crew there's always time for that to happen. Even now. Who knows where the fight with Kaido ends up. Might not stay on the rooftop. Besides that its Luffy that ultimately decides who joins. In the off chance Yamato doesn't see another strawhat until Kaido is defeated plenty of time during the party to get to know them and as they sail to the next destination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmo View Post
    my bad. Didn’t realize
    Yeah, he’s listed as fighter in spite of everyone else being able to fight.

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    I mean it is an accurate description of what he contributes.

    Everyone else has a secondary purpose but he only stabs things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zik View Post
    Don't think either matter much.

    Yamato is super strong. Only reasonable being a son of a yonkou. The other strawhats aren't stagnant. They're not going to stop getting stronger.

    As for meeting tye rest of the crew there's always time for that to happen. Even now. Who knows where the fight with Kaido ends up. Might not stay on the rooftop. Besides that its Luffy that ultimately decides who joins. In the off chance Yamato doesn't see another strawhat until Kaido is defeated plenty of time during the party to get to know them and as they sail to the next destination.
    I get the feeling that Yamato’s role will be related to strength and achieving her ambition for the world more than anything else.

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    I also believe Yamato is set to leave his Kanabo behind.

    Either because is a symbol of his tragic past and Kaido's regime, or because Kaido is going to break it and Yamato is going to start being more prolific in combat with his DF

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    People still in denial about Yamato joining? Well somethings never change

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monquito View Post
    I also believe Yamato is set to leave his Kanabo behind.

    Either because is a symbol of his tragic past and Kaido's regime, or because Kaido is going to break it and Yamato is going to start being more prolific in combat with his DF
    His Kanabo is already notably different in it lacks spikes.

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    If Sanji can use the raid suit even after claiming he would never do so I don't see a problem with Yamato sticking to his kanabo

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