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  • Momo

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfwood View Post
    Please dear god do not let Oda pull another ha ha i was evil plot.
    Only if it leads to the Strawhats being super paranoid and beating up the first person to offer them help on Elbaf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon D. Luffy View Post
    Carrot has a happy family waiting for her at Zou when she's done adventurin'. She doesn't need Luffy the way strawhats normally do.
    Still in the process of formulating my thoughts regarding this week's chapter and Yamato, so not really prepared to go full essay mode right now, but is there a reason that having a "family" to go back to is a problem?

    Nami has Nojiko and Genji.
    Usopp has Kaya.
    Sanji has Zeff and the chefs of Baratie, as well as Pudding and Reiju if he can get them free of their current living situations.
    Chopper has Kureha.
    Franky has Iceburg and the Franky Family.
    Brook has Laboon.
    Jinbe has the Sun Pirates.

    So far as I'm aware, we've never been given any information about any actual family for Carrot, with the two "closest" people to her seemingly being Wanda and Pedro, the latter of whom blew himself up and has been treated quite consistently as dead since Totland. I agree Carrot is lacking in some development, but I don't think having a place to return to when all is said and done is necessarily a point against her.

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    Yamato really is the first character since Jinbe to really feel like they have a shot. For a lot of factors. But one I would add simply that she is very strong but also pretty sheltered even with being the daughter of Kaido. Lots of room to explore and develop there.

    One could say that about Carrot I guess but she is not too much of a character really. Nor interesting. She is just mink number 272627347454 who happens to be Chopper's sidekick at best.

    Yamato has a lot more going for her and it just feels.... like the perfect final crew member to balance it off. I could be wrong though but there are only so many years left until the series ends and it would be nice to have our full crew for the last few arcs sooner rather than later.

  4. #464

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    Yamato’s best hope is for someone to stab them in the eye and they become the eyepatch character, which would make them less of a Nami clone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiolino View Post
    Yamato’s best hope is for someone to stab them in the eye and they become the eyepatch character, which would make them less of a Nami clone.
    So basically you're saying that Yamato needs to look less like Nami and more like Zoro?

  6. #466

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordButler View Post
    So basically you're saying that Yamato needs to look less like Nami and more like Zoro?
    Well, an eyepatch looks quite distinct from a scar.

    Plus Zoro just waiting to show off his magic eye powerup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otakufan View Post
    Still in the process of formulating my thoughts regarding this week's chapter and Yamato, so not really prepared to go full essay mode right now, but is there a reason that having a "family" to go back to is a problem?

    Nami has Nojiko and Genji.
    Usopp has Kaya.
    Sanji has Zeff and the chefs of Baratie, as well as Pudding and Reiju if he can get them free of their current living situations.
    Chopper has Kureha.
    Franky has Iceburg and the Franky Family.
    Brook has Laboon.
    Jinbe has the Sun Pirates.

    So far as I'm aware, we've never been given any information about any actual family for Carrot, with the two "closest" people to her seemingly being Wanda and Pedro, the latter of whom blew himself up and has been treated quite consistently as dead since Totland. I agree Carrot is lacking in some development, but I don't think having a place to return to when all is said and done is necessarily a point against her.
    Ok I believe I didn't explain the concept properly. It's not specifically having a family or not. But it's a sense of not fitting in and general unhappiness that all strawhats share until they meet Luffy.

    - Zoro lost someone dear to him who shared his dream of becoming the best swordsman, he needs to fulfill that dream to honor her memory. He has to stay at the sea until he does. Luffy is the best chance he's ever got at reaching the top.

    - Nami had her life destroyed by pirates and wasn't allowed to have any hope for 10 years besides the money quest. Luffy freed her of that and let her remember her dream again.

    - Usopp was the village fool and felt abandoned by his father, Luffy gave him the chance to go after him and follow his footsteps.

    - Sanji had to cut ties with his own family, then watched his entire crew die and forgot about his All Blue dream to be just Zeff's helper. Luffy gave him a new chance at dreaming high.

    - Chopper was hated by absolutely everyone, until he met Hiluluk and then accidentally killed him. His own dream of curing diseases was killed in front of him. Luffy gave him a chance to revive it.

    - Robin was completely alone for 20 years. Luffy allowed her to trust again.

    - Franky is the one who can't even return since he got a bounty before joining the SHs. Either way, he is the one who watched his own dream kill his mentor and spent years not daring to build ships again. Luffy let him do it once more.

    - Brook was lonely for 50 years, and his dream is perfectly aligned with Luffy. He was given the change to continue his original quest and meet the only "person" (Laboon) he still cares about, by joining the strawhats.

    - Jimbei watched his mentor fail to bring the races together, then became a famous pirate but never came close to achieve it. Luffy gives him a chance to achieve new things.

    Carrot is not broken. The strawhat needs to be broken. She watched Pedro die, but that didn't destroy her life. That's the key thing, the strawhat needs to be someone who died metaphorically and was brought back to life by Luffy.

    And Yamato seems to fit that bill.

    (though now that I think it does seem Jimbei fits this pattern worse than the others, it's unclear why he needs Luffy to achieve his dream. He just has a close bond with Luffy I guess. Which Carrot doesn't).

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    I'll echo what other people have said, it doesn't seem like Oda put much effort/thought into Yamato's design so I can't see her joining the crew. Yeah she has horns and height but the all important facial area which Oda loves to emphasize for emotional impact or wacky expressions is way too close to Nami. Which is a huge shame since I like the concept of a tomboy oni.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhenja View Post
    How can you say that, Carrot has such great connection with the crew!!!
    Yes, she does with Nami and the others who were on WCI, but Robin wasn't with them there. I certainly have no issue with Nami being the main priority for Robin here.

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    It's bs to go "Luffy said Carrot's name and that's proof!" it's equally bs to go "Robin didn't say Carrot's name and that's proof!" You're not going to list off every character name every time a situation comes up. Narratively there's no space for it most of the time.
    Oda actually highlighted how it's unusual when Luffy uses real names.

    SBS V. 96, Ch. 965

    Reader: Heso! A question! Luffy gives nicknames to all sorts of people, however, why doesn't he do so with his crewmates? P.N. Takataka

    O: Ah, I see! Well...Luffy's a type of person who, basically, doesn't really care about remembering someone's name, so he'll give people a nickname based on his impression of them whether they like it or not, but with that said, when someone becomes his crewmate, he finally remembers their name. He knows their names, so he calls them by their names. That's really all there is to it.

    It's definitely not proof of her joining, but it is evidence that she isn't unimportant to him as many have tried to claim.



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    I'll say the one subtle change in terms of design that would help Yamato look less like Nami is if she had fuller lips. Like Viola's. Sort of a mix between the Nami and Robin design types would go a long way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorobō Neko View Post
    I'll say the one subtle change in terms of design that would help Yamoto look less like Nami is if she had fuller lips. Like Viola's. Sort of a mix between the Nami and Robin design types would go a long way.
    I'll hold on to hope that her face gets brutalized after rebelling against Kaidou for the last time or something and she gets a cool scar like that one dude from Magi. Who am I kidding that's not Oda's style at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
    Yes, she does with Nami and the others who were on WCI, but Robin wasn't with them there. I certainly have no issue with Nami being the main priority for Robin here.

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    Oda actually highlighted how it's unusual when Luffy uses real names.

    SBS V. 96, Ch. 965

    Reader: Heso! A question! Luffy gives nicknames to all sorts of people, however, why doesn't he do so with his crewmates? P.N. Takataka

    O: Ah, I see! Well...Luffy's a type of person who, basically, doesn't really care about remembering someone's name, so he'll give people a nickname based on his impression of them whether they like it or not, but with that said, when someone becomes his crewmate, he finally remembers their name. He knows their names, so he calls them by their names. That's really all there is to it.

    It's definitely not proof of her joining, but it is evidence that she isn't unimportant to him as many have tried to claim.
    Luffy called Pekomz by his name when he was wearing a mask, the Luffy who can't recognize Ceasar Clown with a different hairstyle.

    so yeah, not a big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monquito View Post
    Luffy called Pekomz by his name when he was wearing a mask, the Luffy who can't recognize Ceasar Clown with a different hairstyle.

    so yeah, not a big deal.
    It's still notable, that's all I'm saying.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Monquito View Post
    Luffy called Pekomz by his name when he was wearing a mask, the Luffy who can't recognize Ceasar Clown with a different hairstyle.

    so yeah, not a big deal.
    Hey, give Luffy some credit. He did recognize him. Gastino was just such a smooth talker, he convinced Luffy he was another person.

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    Tbf, other than the face, Yamato is pretty entertaining personality wise. She's getting a character arc, becoming a central focus thanks to the Shogun stuff, etc.

    It's unusual that we're getting Yamato now, but this is also means, there's going to be more of Wano and that Shogun position, I feel she will accept out of necessity... Well hopefully this character becomes more distinct as time goes



    Also, in regards to clue or foreshadows, I cant but feel Tama and the small Ace flashback would be it.
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    Carrot is not broken. The strawhat needs to be broken. She watched Pedro die, but that didn't destroy her life. That's the key thing, the strawhat needs to be someone who died metaphorically and was brought back to life by Luffy.

    And Yamato seems to fit that bill.

    (though now that I think it does seem Jimbei fits this pattern worse than the others, it's unclear why he needs Luffy to achieve his dream. He just has a close bond with Luffy I guess. Which Carrot doesn't).

    The Strawhats don't need to be "broken" and be "brought back to life" by Luffy. Sure Zoro lost a very important person but his life didn't really change after it. He already had the dream of becoming the best swordsman in the world, even if Kuina had survived Zoro would still have set out to sea at some point to fight stronger swordsman and pursue Mihawk. Personally I also never really considered Usopp or Jinbei to be "broken". The Strawhats backstory are also not some kind of contest where we need to rank and compare them to each other.

    Carrot and Yamato are actually kinda similar. Both were trapped on an island that they wanted to leave to explore the world and both took the first real chance that they got with Carrot sneaking onto the Sunny and Yamato immediately asking Luffy if she can set sail with them.

    Carrot went out to sea for the first time in her life thinking that it is going to be a fun adventure and when that "fun" adventure on WCI was over she saw her mentor blow himself up and passing his will onto her, the ship she sailed on was damaged and at that time they left behind countless allies seemingly to die against Big Moms army just so that they can escape.

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    Also, in regards to clue or foreshadows, I cant but feel Tama and the small Ace flashback would be it.

    Tama seems like a waste of a connection to Ace if not. If Oda was just gonna recycle it with Yamato within the same arc literally , maybe she should’ve just been Orochi’s secret daughter and been done with it. Unless it’s all apart of the same story, Ace met Yamato during whatever adventure the Spade Pirates had on Wano that inspired Tama to wanna become a Shinobi and board Ace‘s ship.

    If Yamato fought Ace and eventually desired to join his crew from getting his ass kicked, maybe Tama witness and started to emulate Yamato’s ambition a bit and Ace told her what he did to kinda brush her off like Shanks did to Luffy once upon a time.

    As far as Yamato joining , its honestly a coin toss despite me agreeing with Robby that she is perhaps the strongest candidate since Jinbe , who despite seeming a bit unconventional was still obviously growing strong ties to Luffy that went beyond arc specific goals like a Rebecca or Shirahoshi.

    I still don’t think this rules out Carrot though , despite being the epitome of unconventional in the sense that with how green she is as a character we’ve kind of seen her whole trauma and maturation Unfold in real time , it’s hard to argue that Oda has placed her in specific moments and have her do key things that’s usually only saved for main characters.

    As mentioned she wasn’t needed in Whole Cake. Everything she did could’ve been done by Pekoms. Especially when you consider the tight bond between Pedro and Pekoms, all the new dawn stuff would’ve been simply written off as “ We gots to help them brother, for Zepo ” moment to turn away Pekoms from Big Mom for good, while Pedro sacrificed Himself. Queue Sulong Pekoms. Nice and neat, the perfect pay off and conclusion to Pedro. Yet, Carrot stowaways and inherits Pedro’s will, who also trained her? Wait what?

    Pekoms restarting the Nox Pirates would’ve made more sense since he was most likely second command on that expedition. Not a green bean like Carrot who doesn’t know shit and is learning everything about the world As she goes along. She’s no different than when Nekomamushi and Inarurashi washed up on Wano when they were kids. She’s just already a badass.

    Which brings me to my conclusion, I can’t shake the memory of Oden forcing his way onto Whitebeards ship and even Rogers’ to a certain extent just because he was fascinated by his ambition, kinda similar to what Yamato’s doing right now and later The mini mink Rulers of the Day and Night stowed away BOTH times, something Carrots done Once and sincerely find it hard to believe Oda can leave her behind after surviving another Adventure with them and witness the New Dawn Pedro spoke of and I doubt it’s simply the opening of Wano. Pedro was chasing his dream by trying to find Poneglyphs , which has Zero to do with Wano opening up and more so to do with the void century itself and how the world used to be.


    I honestly think they’ll both join. Between Luffy hyping the biggest celebration ever. Oda mentioning Nakama joining consecutively awhile back, the series reaching its finishline,Oda straight pump faking the color spreads it’s difficult not to wonder if this is it going forward.

    Jinbes been a Strawhat since He left his crew and gave Big Mom her cup back. Carrot was already showing the signs during the climax of Whole Cake and Yamato’s out of left field asking point blank if she can go with Luffy and he doesn’t seem like he’s refusing...
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    I figured out the next nakama!

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    Who I want to join, regardless of likelihood: Kiku.

    Who I expect to Join: Yamato.

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